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(Canonical)   Chinese to use computer operating system with pre-installed keylogger to be named Wa Ching Yu   (canonical.com) divider line 17
    More: Ironic, ubuntu, Chinese, operating systems, standards body, Integrated Chip Promotions Centre, Technological escalation, Linux community, Baidu  
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2013-03-22 11:39:23 AM  
Chinese government's five year plan to ... accelerate ... growth ...

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2013-03-22 12:14:27 PM  
So...year of the linux desktop?  I'm sure Stallman is choking on his own froth at this very moment over the idea of such a repressive government hijacking the freest OS available.
 
2013-03-22 12:33:09 PM  
I'll be the smug American in the thread and announce how amusing it is to me that after nearly 50 years of computer operating systems, we seem to be the only ones that can figure out how to make completely new ones.

/I guess you could make an argument for Torvalds
//though he was "inspired" by the GNU project and moved to Oregon when he got the chance
 
2013-03-22 12:34:55 PM  
Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?
 
2013-03-22 12:38:43 PM  
Was talking to a guy at a party who was telling us about his weird assed job, partly disassembling thousands of printers and comparing their circuitry to exemplars and looking for certain telltales of counterfeit product. He had no idea who the customer was, only that somebody was very concerned about what circuits Chicoms might be planting in printers.
 
2013-03-22 12:41:33 PM  

wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?


A lot of countries that are "behind the curve" on computer software try to use what's already out there a basis for their future systems. Russia has ReactOS, North Korea has something Linux-y, and China now has Ubuntu. There's the belief in CS/IT circles there that their countries will continue to be behind if they don't find some way to start their own ecosystems and industries. They're not wrong.
 
2013-03-22 12:44:34 PM  
Black Lotus reporting
 
2013-03-22 01:18:14 PM  
I am so glad I dumped Ubuntu an moved to Linux Mint Debian Edition (even if they discontinued the XFCE
version).

wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?


Mark Shuttleworth really wants to get a return on his investment, and doesn't care where the money comes
from.
 
2013-03-22 01:49:10 PM  

wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?


Canonical provides support.
 
2013-03-22 02:02:58 PM  

bbqsandwich: wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?

Canonical provides support.


Why can't they just RTFM?
 
2013-03-22 02:19:12 PM  

wambu: bbqsandwich: wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?

Canonical provides support.

Why can't they just RTFM?


Because the average open source API docs are something like this:

get_num()
Gets the number

set_image_orientation(Orientation o)
Sets orientation of image

list_devices()
Returns a list of devices
 
2013-03-22 02:50:38 PM  

MrEricSir: wambu: bbqsandwich: wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?

Canonical provides support.

Why can't they just RTFM?

Because the average open source API docs are something like this:

get_num()
Gets the number

set_image_orientation(Orientation o)
Sets orientation of image

list_devices()
Returns a list of devices


As a guy who's currently working on an Arduino project with a 3rd-party shield, I would GLADLY take that documentation.

It's not quite as bad as some Linux documentation, but it's getting there.

/"... and just recompile the kernel."
 
2013-03-22 03:12:35 PM  

BumpInTheNight: So...year of the linux desktop?  I'm sure Stallman is choking on his own froth at this very moment over the idea of such a repressive government hijacking the freest OS available.


BSD is more free. It doesn't place limitations on what you can do with the source.
 
2013-03-22 04:18:04 PM  

wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?


Because those operating systems can run VPNs and that pisses China off?

/pirated Windows XP + language pack works pretty well for most peoples needs though
 
2013-03-22 04:20:25 PM  
WC gang?
 
2013-03-22 07:37:25 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I am so glad I dumped Ubuntu an moved to Linux Mint Debian Edition (even if they discontinued the XFCE
version).

wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?

Mark Shuttleworth really wants to get a return on his investment, and doesn't care where the money comes
from.


Where the blarg were you when I ventured to asking FARK about some issues I had with my Mint installation (it's gone now) as their forum was completely farking useless and nobody ever replied! Yarg...
 
2013-03-23 02:39:02 PM  

neuroflare: DjangoStonereaver: I am so glad I dumped Ubuntu an moved to Linux Mint Debian Edition (even if they discontinued the XFCE
version).

wambu: Don't the Chinese have the expertise to freely download and install Linux on their own and maintain the software themselves? Why involve Canonical?

Mark Shuttleworth really wants to get a return on his investment, and doesn't care where the money comes
from.

Where the blarg were you when I ventured to asking FARK about some issues I had with my Mint installation (it's gone now) as their forum was completely farking useless and nobody ever replied! Yarg...


I have been here, but I've not had much issue with LMDE.  But, I made sure to get an HP laptop, since their
HW seems to be extremely Linux friendly.

And, while I will admit that the Mint forums are quite large and complex to navigate, I've not had a bad
experience using them (though, to be fair, I haven't had any particularly good ones either).  There is a lot
of good info in there, but you do need to do a fair amount of digging, and at least you won't get flamed for
just being there (as I've seen happen on the support forums of other distros).
 
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