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2013-03-22 12:54:14 PM  
SDP/minute
 
2013-03-22 01:02:37 PM  
Done in one.
 
2013-03-22 01:03:29 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: SDP/minute


I'm not sure - did I already miss out on making a joke about the number of dick punches?

If so, congrats...
 
2013-03-22 01:13:43 PM  

skrame: HaywoodJablonski: SDP/minute

I'm not sure - did I already miss out on making a joke about the number of dick punches?

If so, congrats...


Thanks.
 
2013-03-22 01:17:24 PM  
((Lack of suitable childhood role model x tattoos) + (IQ point lost/blow to head))/round
 
2013-03-22 01:39:41 PM  
MMA: The thinking man's "Ow My Balls"
 
2013-03-22 01:51:24 PM  
It no doubt involves dividing the number of barbed wire tattoos by Affliction tees.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-03-22 02:29:25 PM  
Next up, MMA fantasy teams/leagues and how the people that play are NOT like those DND nerds.
 
2013-03-22 02:45:16 PM  
MMA Stat nerds are morons.

In baseball you can have stats because teams play 140 games a year against THE SAME TEAMS.

In MMA, each guy might have had 20 fights total, all against completely different fighters, and each fighter may have fought 5 times in the last 3 years.

Some stats in MMA are useful.  ie:  large favorites are more likely to lose than the odds predict.  Heavy favorites finish fights disproportionately to the odds.
 
2013-03-22 02:46:21 PM  
Oh, and I kind of have a basis for my opinions since I turned 50 bucks into over 25 thousand in two years.
 
2013-03-22 02:55:06 PM  

van1ty: Oh, and I kind of have a basis for my opinions since I turned 50 bucks into over 25 thousand in two years.


That would cover chartering a helicopter, in case the gym is too far to reach in 26 minutes.
 
2013-03-22 03:19:09 PM  
Sweaty beanie-propeller punching?
 
2013-03-22 03:21:35 PM  
"Slow-Necking-Attempts\Made\%"
 
2013-03-22 03:51:27 PM  
I thought advanced basketball metrics preceded advanced baseball metrics
 
2013-03-22 04:06:08 PM  

neuroflare: I thought advanced basketball metrics preceded advanced baseball metrics


I guess that depends on your definition of "advanced," but in general....no.
 
2013-03-22 04:15:37 PM  

DeWayne Mann: neuroflare: I thought advanced basketball metrics preceded advanced baseball metrics

I guess that depends on your definition of "advanced," but in general....no.


I was being vague on purpose as I don't follow much basketball, but anything I've heard from the hardwood camp says they were doing it before it was cool. I'm not 100% certain when baseball stats become "advanced" outside of the slash line, nor when that was established.
 
2013-03-22 04:31:09 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: skrame: HaywoodJablonski: SDP/minute

I'm not sure - did I already miss out on making a joke about the number of dick punches?

If so, congrats...

Thanks.


BunkoSquad: MMA: The thinking man's "Ow My Balls"


i don't think i've ever seen a dick punch in all my mma watching days.  even if there were such a thing, i can't imagine a dick punch is very painful. ball punch, yes... but dick punch?  i've never understood this notion.
 
2013-03-22 04:33:25 PM  

neuroflare: DeWayne Mann: neuroflare: I thought advanced basketball metrics preceded advanced baseball metrics

I guess that depends on your definition of "advanced," but in general....no.

I was being vague on purpose as I don't follow much basketball, but anything I've heard from the hardwood camp says they were doing it before it was cool. I'm not 100% certain when baseball stats become "advanced" outside of the slash line, nor when that was established.


Well, again, it depends on what definition of advanced you're using. This wikipedia article, though, talks about how Bill James and Moneyball both led to basketball stats getting better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APBRmetrics
 
2013-03-22 05:49:10 PM  
Besides striking percentages and takedown success/defense numbers, what the fark else is there to compare?  Coaches focus on techniques, habits, strengths and weaknesses, not how many leg kicks a guy throws in the second round.
 
2013-03-22 06:34:45 PM  
Stats are a tool, like a hammer.
Like a hammer, MMA fans are also tools.
 
2013-03-22 08:52:03 PM  
I think there's a reason that there are 20 posts before mine, and I only recognize one of you twats from the MMA threads.
 
2013-03-22 09:28:57 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: I think there's a reason that there are 20 posts before mine, and I only recognize one of you twats from the MMA threads.


Is it because we stay out of the threads because we don't care enough to threadshiat, but when an obvious opportunity to make fun of SDP fanbois presents itself, we take 43 seconds to poke you gently in your sandy vagina?
 
2013-03-22 09:53:21 PM  
NUT SHOT!!
 
2013-03-22 09:56:48 PM  

The Smails Kid: Your Average Witty Fark User: I think there's a reason that there are 20 posts before mine, and I only recognize one of you twats from the MMA threads.

Is it because we stay out of the threads because we don't care enough to threadshiat, but when an obvious opportunity to make fun of SDP fanbois presents itself, we take 43 seconds to poke you gently in your sandy vagina?


Well as long as you're gentle.

The SDP thing is from almost 20 years ago. You just look like a rube still making jokes about it.

At least post the Penny Arcade comic
 
2013-03-22 10:11:34 PM  

Treygreen13: Stats are a tool, like a hammer.
Like a hammer, MMA fans are also tools.


Ladies and gentlemen, a Cowboys fan.
 
2013-03-22 10:12:57 PM  

the biggest redneck here: Treygreen13: Stats are a tool, like a hammer.
Like a hammer, MMA fans are also tools.

Ladies and gentlemen, a Cowboys fan.


LOL
 
2013-03-22 10:13:10 PM  
1) Everybody post your Tapology predictions (let's see fWc steal THIS)
2) Complain the headline left out start times for the prelims
3) Counter complaining about the 250 character limit and having 3 different start times on 3 channels
4) RING GIRLS
5) DOJO STORM
6) GTFO OUR THREAD
7) Old MMA vs new MMA snobbery
8) I could totally beat both these guys
9) BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
10) ARMS FOR THE ARMOIRE
11) My predictions all suck
12) My predictions are dead on
13) It's only ghey if you make eye contact.jpeg
14) RING GIRLS
15) Does anyone have a link to the post fight presser
16) I can't belive ____ got fired but they're keeping this guy
17) Thai steel cup endorsement
18) Slow mo replay of nutshot from 4 different camera angles
19) OMAPLATA!
20) Superman punch!
21) Presser is LIVE!!!
22) HOLY SHIAT!
23) SOMEONE MAKE A .gif OF THAT
24) The biggest fight of _____'s career
25) What the fark kind of walkout music is THAT ?
26) The prelim fights were all better than the main card
27) The presser was more exciting than the main card
28) That fight in the stands was more exiting than the main card
29) Dana drops the F-bomb. Drink. (fFc is not responsible for acute cirrhosis)
30) SPINNING BACKFIST
31) SPINNING BACKFAIL
32) What the fark fight are the judges watching ?
33) Ceceil Peoples is the devil
34) That fight was stopped too soon
35) That fight should have been stopped sooner
36) EYE SCREAM
37) Hork inducing replays of torture pr0n-esque attempted eye removal
38) Boob kick
 
2013-03-22 10:23:05 PM  
www.tapology.com
 
2013-03-22 10:42:32 PM  
I really wish journalists and blog writers would stop misusing "Big Data" in their posts.  Big Data, as a concept isn't referring to standard statistical analysis or data sets.  It's referring to data sets so large they cannot be analyzed or farmed through traditional data methods.  It requires novel methodologies and evolving search algorithms to mine and coordinate analysis.

There is no sport played that uses "Big Data".  Every pitch in the history of major league baseball is only about 100,000,000 pitches (146 pitches per team, two teams, 2,430 regular season games, 100 years, plus post seasons).  That's not even beginning to touch "Big Data" realms.  When you start hitting 10^15 elements, like what's pulled from geological or satellite systems, THEN you're in big data.  Typically, you're coordinating data from multiple continuous time sources where you're gaining hundreds of thousands of data pieces a second over long periods of time.

I realize it may be a stupid gripe, but talking about using predictive statistical analysis on sports is explicitly NOT in the area of Big Data analysis.  You're using very standard tools, and your data sets are very small.
 
2013-03-22 11:31:16 PM  

Khellendros: I really wish journalists and blog writers would stop misusing "Big Data" in their posts.  Big Data, as a concept isn't referring to standard statistical analysis or data sets.  It's referring to data sets so large they cannot be analyzed or farmed through traditional data methods.  It requires novel methodologies and evolving search algorithms to mine and coordinate analysis.

There is no sport played that uses "Big Data".  Every pitch in the history of major league baseball is only about 100,000,000 pitches (146 pitches per team, two teams, 2,430 regular season games, 100 years, plus post seasons).  That's not even beginning to touch "Big Data" realms.  When you start hitting 10^15 elements, like what's pulled from geological or satellite systems, THEN you're in big data.  Typically, you're coordinating data from multiple continuous time sources where you're gaining hundreds of thousands of data pieces a second over long periods of time.

I realize it may be a stupid gripe, but talking about using predictive statistical analysis on sports is explicitly NOT in the area of Big Data analysis.  You're using very standard tools, and your data sets are very small.


Yeah, but do you know how to triangle choke a biatch?
 
2013-03-22 11:53:28 PM  
Finally, the MMA fans arrive. Fark the trolls.
 
2013-03-23 12:18:33 AM  

van1ty: Oh, and I kind of have a basis for my opinions since I turned 50 bucks into over 25 thousand in two years.


I thought about doing that once, but the machine I bought from the back of that Richie Rich comic book did NOT change my dollar into a 20 like the ad showed.

/ stupid ad.
 
2013-03-23 02:28:05 AM  

BunkoSquad: MMA: The thinking man's "Ow My Balls"


Specifically that title would go to Bellator. The amount of epic nut shots coming out of that promotion is simply astounding.
 
2013-03-23 09:54:25 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Finally, the MMA fans arrive. Fark the trolls.


THIS!

LOL.

So bummed I missed my Tapology picks last weekend, and only caught the last two fights of the PPV.

Anyways, in regards to the article, I too take issue with 'big data".  Uggh, can't they come up with a better name for it?

Still, I think there is definite room for analytics in MMA.  It's not easy to measure how many dry humps Jon Fitch will perform in any given round before ejaculation or how many times one of the Diaz brothers will taunt while getting smoked.  :)

In all seriousness, this can only help the smart coaches/fighters break down their opponent in a new, and possibly effective way.  Knowing a fighters proclivity for certain strikes, and tendencies in a specific situation can reap huge rewards.  How many times does he stuff a takedown?  Does he have a higher success rate in stuffing single legs vs. doubles, how about against the cage?  When striking, when and how often does he throw leg kicks and which types?

I can see someone like GSPs camp, or Lauzon's camp using this stuff right now, and in a year or two, this becomes as part of the game as what Baseball and Basketball has become.

/would love to attend Nerdapalooza one year
//if only to meet Dork Elvis and Simmons
///nowhere near as smart as most of the attendees
 
2013-03-23 11:24:17 AM  

LoR75: Your Average Witty Fark User: Finally, the MMA fans arrive. Fark the trolls.

THIS!

LOL.

So bummed I missed my Tapology picks last weekend, and only caught the last two fights of the PPV.

Anyways, in regards to the article, I too take issue with 'big data".  Uggh, can't they come up with a better name for it?

Still, I think there is definite room for analytics in MMA.  It's not easy to measure how many dry humps Jon Fitch will perform in any given round before ejaculation or how many times one of the Diaz brothers will taunt while getting smoked.  :)

In all seriousness, this can only help the smart coaches/fighters break down their opponent in a new, and possibly effective way.  Knowing a fighters proclivity for certain strikes, and tendencies in a specific situation can reap huge rewards.  How many times does he stuff a takedown?  Does he have a higher success rate in stuffing single legs vs. doubles, how about against the cage?  When striking, when and how often does he throw leg kicks and which types?

I can see someone like GSPs camp, or Lauzon's camp using this stuff right now, and in a year or two, this becomes as part of the game as what Baseball and Basketball has become.

/would love to attend Nerdapalooza one year
//if only to meet Dork Elvis and Simmons
///nowhere near as smart as most of the attendees


Finally, an intelligent post- and with humor too. If stats are useful in a team game, how can they not be useful in a one on one sport?
 
2013-03-23 11:34:52 AM  

BunkoSquad: MMA: The thinking man's "Ow My Balls"


I think you meant The Athlete's "Chess".
 
2013-03-23 12:12:39 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: LoR75: Your Average Witty Fark User: Finally, the MMA fans arrive. Fark the trolls.

THIS!

LOL.

So bummed I missed my Tapology picks last weekend, and only caught the last two fights of the PPV.

Anyways, in regards to the article, I too take issue with 'big data".  Uggh, can't they come up with a better name for it?

Still, I think there is definite room for analytics in MMA.  It's not easy to measure how many dry humps Jon Fitch will perform in any given round before ejaculation or how many times one of the Diaz brothers will taunt while getting smoked.  :)

In all seriousness, this can only help the smart coaches/fighters break down their opponent in a new, and possibly effective way.  Knowing a fighters proclivity for certain strikes, and tendencies in a specific situation can reap huge rewards.  How many times does he stuff a takedown?  Does he have a higher success rate in stuffing single legs vs. doubles, how about against the cage?  When striking, when and how often does he throw leg kicks and which types?

I can see someone like GSPs camp, or Lauzon's camp using this stuff right now, and in a year or two, this becomes as part of the game as what Baseball and Basketball has become.

/would love to attend Nerdapalooza one year
//if only to meet Dork Elvis and Simmons
///nowhere near as smart as most of the attendees

Finally, an intelligent post- and with humor too. If stats are useful in a team game, how can they not be useful in a one on one sport?


Thanks!  Usually I suck in bringing the humor.

To add on a bit, you can argue Baseball is a one on one sport, at least a major portion of it.

Hence why pitchers (and hitters) pour through scouting reports and are getting advanced stats on top of video.  Until the ball is in play, Baseball is a one on one sport.  Pitcher vs. Hitter.

How often does a pitcher throw a changeup?  What's his success rate with it?  Does he use it in certain counts? What's his flyball/groundball ratio with that pitch?

All of this goes through a smart batter's mind before and during an at bat.

So why wouldn't this stuff apply to an MMA fighter?  Sure the old adage "a gameplan is great until you get punched in the face" applies, but with MMA evolving, your smart fighters will all be using this as part of their gameplans.

If I know that GSP loves double leg takedowns, and his success rate in the 3rd round is 70% compared to only 20% of single legs, you better believe I am going to do everything possible in that round to avoid those doubles.

The fact that Dominick Cruz was on that Sloan panel is a good sign.

/not an MMA fighter
//couldn't last 30 seconds with GSP, let alone 3 rounds
///cause I'm a middleweight, he would have to step up for me to stuff his takedowns in the 3rd round :P
////slashies
 
2013-03-23 03:37:13 PM  
van1ty: MMA Stat nerds are morons.

In baseball you can have stats because teams play 140 games a year against THE SAME TEAMS.

In MMA, each guy might have had 20 fights total, all against completely different fighters, and each fighter may have fought 5 times in the last 3 years.


THIS, Ditto for Boxing
 
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