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(io9)   Ten bad movies that could have been good with only a small change. Wait...Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome is a bad movie?   (io9.com) divider line 19
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2013-03-22 08:18:45 AM  
Yes. I went back and watched it after we had this discussion last time (different article). While it was better than I remember, it was still majorly lame compared to the other two films. Too much hairspay and shiny shiat.

//Hopefully Fury Road will make up for it.
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2013-03-22 08:20:35 AM  
 
2013-03-22 09:00:43 AM  
4) Wanted

The one thing you gotta change: Get rid of the magic loom of fate, and the whole wacky concept about these assassins killing people who have been fingered by God or whatever, and get back to something more like the original comic book's concept of a victorious society of supervillains.



So basically the one thing that needs to be changed is the entire premise of the film.
 
2013-03-22 09:05:56 AM  

Sybarite: 4) Wanted

The one thing you gotta change: Get rid of the magic loom of fate, and the whole wacky concept about these assassins killing people who have been fingered by God or whatever, and get back to something more like the original comic book's concept of a victorious society of supervillains.


So basically the one thing that needs to be changed is the entire premise of the film.


Yes. The original book's story was awesome. It was just a bunch of assholes with super training. They stole Superman's kyrptonite condom at one point.
 
2013-03-22 09:14:12 AM  
I really can't complain about the list.

Wanted wasn't bad...but it could have been so much better.  I loved the Bartertown scenes in Mad Max....but the movie fell apart after the kids rescue Max.  I liked Superman 2 in a campy sort of way.  Mostly because Terence Stamp was awesome.  As for I Am Legend...the original ending made the movie 100 times better.  My main beef with that movie is that the "monsters" shouldn't have been CGI monsters...but more like people that had some serious health changes due to a virus.  I hate to admit it, but I liked Omega Man more than I Am Legend.
 
2013-03-22 09:19:15 AM  
I thought I Am Legend was fine.  Yeah, there could have been improvements but it wasn't *bad*.

And Beyond Thunderdome?!  The kids *did* take away the feel from the other movies somewhat but they shortly gave us the train scene.  Personally, the kids didn't hurt anything for me.  It wasn't like they were ewoks.  They were practically feral (and BTW, "Feral Boy" in Road Warrior...he was a kid if I remember), and semi-badass.  Beyond Thunderdome was in no way a "bad" movie.
 
2013-03-22 09:21:45 AM  
Mostly because Terence Stamp was awesome.

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Terrance Stamp is awesome.
 
2013-03-22 09:32:36 AM  
Rhetorical headline
 
2013-03-22 09:53:26 AM  
WHO RUN BARTERTOWN?
 
2013-03-22 10:06:38 AM  

UberDave: I thought I Am Legend was fine. Yeah, there could have been improvements but it wasn't *bad*.


It was bad because the original ending completely ruined the entire point of the movie. I thought Smith did great, and I loved his dog (almost cried during that one point), but that ending, C'MON!
 
2013-03-22 10:15:49 AM  
Totally agree about their take on "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull."  I had no problem with the angle of aliens and the Russians and the dawn of the nuclear age.  The movie took place in the 1950's, and sci-fi serials and B movies were popular, which matches with the homage to serial Spielberg intended with "Raiders."  And the Cold War was ramping up.  I didn't even mind the angle of Indy's son, but the execution by Shia LaBeouf was deeply flawed.  What I didn't like was the ridiculous overabundance of CGI action sequences, especially the cartoonish chase through the jungle with a tree-eating Jeep, army ants, and Shia swinging on vines with CGI monkeys in hot pursuit.  The stunt sequences in "Raiders" were terrific.  In "Crystal Skull," the looked like Pixar.  And the plot holes were big enough to drive a truck through.  A real truck, not a CGI one.  Lucas has good ideas, but has no sense of what makes a good script at all.
 
2013-03-22 10:23:21 AM  

doglover: Sybarite: 4) Wanted

The one thing you gotta change: Get rid of the magic loom of fate, and the whole wacky concept about these assassins killing people who have been fingered by God or whatever, and get back to something more like the original comic book's concept of a victorious society of supervillains.


So basically the one thing that needs to be changed is the entire premise of the film.

Yes. The original book's story was awesome. It was just a bunch of assholes with super training. They stole Superman's kyrptonite condom at one point.



I read the comics, and as soon as I heard the first rumor that they were making a film adaptation, I knew it wasn't going to be anywhere close to the source material. We're talking about easily a $150 million budget (probably more) to produce a hard R rated film in which the protagonist is a murdering rapist and pretty much every other character is even worse. A studio would probably save a lot of time by simply setting a giant pile of money on fire.
 
2013-03-22 10:29:46 AM  

Sybarite: doglover: Sybarite: 4) Wanted

The one thing you gotta change: Get rid of the magic loom of fate, and the whole wacky concept about these assassins killing people who have been fingered by God or whatever, and get back to something more like the original comic book's concept of a victorious society of supervillains.


So basically the one thing that needs to be changed is the entire premise of the film.

Yes. The original book's story was awesome. It was just a bunch of assholes with super training. They stole Superman's kyrptonite condom at one point.


I read the comics, and as soon as I heard the first rumor that they were making a film adaptation, I knew it wasn't going to be anywhere close to the source material. We're talking about easily a $150 million budget (probably more) to produce a hard R rated film in which the protagonist is a murdering rapist and pretty much every other character is even worse. A studio would probably save a lot of time by simply setting a giant pile of money on fire.


You can make a good movie WITHOUT adapting anything. If you don't want to make a movie about Reynard the Fox, you write your own story that isn't about the most abominable creature doing horrific things like raping his aunt and then pissing in her children's eyes blinding them while her husband your uncle is away being beaten by fishermen for the theft of eels you yourself stole using him as bait. It's very easy to write that other movie. But if you choose to make a Reynard the Fox movie, you can't make him good. It just isn't going to work well.

If you make Wanted, it's the not the action but the audacity. They have to be amoral killers or else why are they Wanted? Also they have to be really good or else how can they steal Supes' condom?
 
2013-03-22 10:32:55 AM  
The one thing you gotta change:Cut the last 20-30 minutes, basically the whole coda after the kid goes into the ocean. Remove Spielberg's attempt to tie everything off with a nice bow and give the movie a contrived fairytale ending, and you've got a great film. Something similar could be said aboutMinority Report, in fact.

Everyone tries to pin the ending of AI on Spielberg. That was in Kubrick's original concept. I wish the man lived to direct this movie so that people didn't judge it on their expectations of what a Spielberg movie is.
 
2013-03-22 10:38:35 AM  
Yes.

Beyond Thunderdome is the Godfather 3 of the Mad Max movies.
 
2013-03-22 10:54:39 AM  

Current Resident: Yes.

Beyond Thunderdome is the Godfather 3 of the Mad Max movies.


There are parts of that movie that I really, really like, but I think on a whole, it just doesn't work as well as the first two.
 
2013-03-22 12:29:22 PM  
Disappointed--not in the movies on the list, but that many of the suggestions were to replace the script.  That's not what I would consider "one thing" as a replaced script likely has more than one difference in it from the original.

Removing the kids would be "one thing" (although I agree--at least they're not ewoks).

Removing Shia Labuffy would be one thing.
Removing the ridculous non-canon super-powers would be "one thing".

I'd say in Wanted the one thing to remove/change was that ridculous 360 degree bullet to everyones's heads.
 
2013-03-25 05:50:13 AM  
An article on how to replace the attitude of culture of when the movie came out to what that same culture has evolved into now, must be a slow news day.
 
2013-03-25 04:50:04 PM  
i recently watched beyond thunderdome, and my opinion of it has changed.  at first, i thought it was basically like the sequels to the matrix.  in other words, it did not exist.

but, recently I watched it and tried to ignore the goofiness... perhaps I had played enough fallout and other post-apocalyptic games to enjoy a little goofiness...  plus, almost every post-apocalypse movie since the mad max movies are bankrupt.  so, by the lack of a competent comparison, thunderdome got a little better.  (i mean, what apocalypse movies are any good?  the road?  escape from new york?  that's pretty much it... unless i started thinking about it)

and, then i got to the part where max meets the lost children, and I have to admit, the writing for the children's dialect is really clever.  it was fun to have a sci-fi movie actually attend to the notion of apocalyptic language change. in fact, the language of the children was enough to make me like the movie.  but, i would still like someone to explain to me how bruce spence shows up as the two different pilots in the different movies.... i thought they were partners.
 
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