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2013-03-22 08:49:45 AM
The word 'voucher' scares me when it's tied to a government program.
 
2013-03-22 09:21:32 AM
The GOP's most ardent tea partyers - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - opposed the measure, which projects a balanced budget in a decade but relies on $600 billion-plus in tax revenues on the wealthy enacted in January to do it.

Paul Ryan is a moran.
 
2013-03-22 09:25:45 AM
I cant believe nobody has submitted the "story of the day".......George W. Bush, on why he is no longer a republican: "My dissent had nothing to do with principles; it was a matter of prudence or judgment. On foreign policy, Republicans had become the stupid party. And so it remains 10 years later." ..............I would do it but I have never had any luck getting green lit........
 
2013-03-22 09:26:29 AM
Duke sucks
 
2013-03-22 09:27:09 AM

TopNotched: I cant believe nobody has submitted the "story of the day".......George W. Bush, on why he is no longer a republican: "My dissent had nothing to do with principles; it was a matter of prudence or judgment. On foreign policy, Republicans had become the stupid party. And so it remains 10 years later." ..............I would do it but I have never had any luck getting green lit........


Can you link us?
 
2013-03-22 09:30:38 AM

TopNotched: I cant believe nobody has submitted the "story of the day".......George W. Bush, on why he is no longer a republican: "My dissent had nothing to do with principles; it was a matter of prudence or judgment. On foreign policy, Republicans had become the stupid party. And so it remains 10 years later." ..............I would do it but I have never had any luck getting green lit........


yeah, I need to see a link before I believe this. It's not showing up in a google news search
 
2013-03-22 09:30:48 AM

qorkfiend: TopNotched: I cant believe nobody has submitted the "story of the day".......George W. Bush, on why he is no longer a republican: "My dissent had nothing to do with principles; it was a matter of prudence or judgment. On foreign policy, Republicans had become the stupid party. And so it remains 10 years later." ..............I would do it but I have never had any luck getting green lit........

Can you link us?



Here's the link (thanks Google), but it's not something W. Bush said. It's from an op-ed by Damon Linker, illustrated with a photo of Bush.
 
2013-03-22 09:33:22 AM

qorkfiend: TopNotched: I cant believe nobody has submitted the "story of the day".......George W. Bush, on why he is no longer a republican: "My dissent had nothing to do with principles; it was a matter of prudence or judgment. On foreign policy, Republicans had become the stupid party. And so it remains 10 years later." ..............I would do it but I have never had any luck getting green lit........

Can you link us?


Link

/But the quote is from the author, not W
 
2013-03-22 09:33:53 AM
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.
 
2013-03-22 09:35:07 AM
Why is Ryan still allowed to write budgets?  Didn't America send him a big FU last fall when they voted against him?
 
2013-03-22 09:38:49 AM
This was a modest proposal that was swiftly rejected.
 
2013-03-22 09:39:08 AM

Muta: Why is Ryan still allowed to write budgets?  Didn't America send him a big FU last fall when they voted against him?


Because his district didn't have the sense to vote his ass out of Congress as well.
 
2013-03-22 09:47:00 AM
That was my favorite headline all morning. I'm going back to read it again.
 
2013-03-22 09:51:03 AM
img.gawkerassets.com

/f*cking clown
 
2013-03-22 09:51:12 AM
FTA: The GOP's most ardent tea partyers - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - opposed the measure, which projects a balanced budget in a decade but relies on $600 billion-plus in tax revenues on the wealthy enacted in January to do it.

I must still be partly asleep, because that seems to say that Ryan submitted a budget that raised taxes on the wealthy. I know the dems would have voted against it because it was likely full of poison pills and bad cuts, but It seems odd to me that 40 republicans voted to raise these taxes, while it was the teabaggers that actually sided with the dems to shoot it down. But that...can't be right.
 
2013-03-22 09:51:14 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: The word 'voucher' scares me when it's tied to a government program.


They'd have more luck with "raffle". People love winning prizes.
 
2013-03-22 09:54:41 AM

Greil: FTA: The GOP's most ardent tea partyers - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - opposed the measure, which projects a balanced budget in a decade but relies on $600 billion-plus in tax revenues on the wealthy enacted in January to do it.

I must still be partly asleep, because that seems to say that Ryan submitted a budget that raised taxes on the wealthy. I know the dems would have voted against it because it was likely full of poison pills and bad cuts, but It seems odd to me that 40 republicans voted to raise these taxes, while it was the teabaggers that actually sided with the dems to shoot it down. But that...can't be right.


That's what I read, too.  His budget was too liberal and too conservative.

My brain hurts.
 
2013-03-22 09:55:33 AM

Greil: FTA: The GOP's most ardent tea partyers - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - opposed the measure, which projects a balanced budget in a decade but relies on $600 billion-plus in tax revenues on the wealthy enacted in January to do it.

I must still be partly asleep, because that seems to say that Ryan submitted a budget that raised taxes on the wealthy. I know the dems would have voted against it because it was likely full of poison pills and bad cuts, but It seems odd to me that 40 republicans voted to raise these taxes, while it was the teabaggers that actually sided with the dems to shoot it down. But that...can't be right.


No, he submitted a budget that uses already passed "tax hikes" as an excuse to gut social programs.
 
2013-03-22 09:58:31 AM

Greil: I must still be partly asleep, because that seems to say that Ryan submitted a budget that raised taxes on the wealthy. I know the dems would have voted against it because it was likely full of poison pills and bad cuts, but It seems odd to me that 40 republicans voted to raise these taxes, while it was the teabaggers that actually sided with the dems to shoot it down. But that...can't be right.


The budget keeps the "tax hikes" that were enacted back in January.  He's not raising taxes, he's just not putting the now-expired temporary Bush tax cuts back into place.  Also, Cruz is just an ass who votes "no" on everything.
 
2013-03-22 10:00:03 AM

Hollie Maea: Greil: FTA: The GOP's most ardent tea partyers - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - opposed the measure, which projects a balanced budget in a decade but relies on $600 billion-plus in tax revenues on the wealthy enacted in January to do it.

I must still be partly asleep, because that seems to say that Ryan submitted a budget that raised taxes on the wealthy. I know the dems would have voted against it because it was likely full of poison pills and bad cuts, but It seems odd to me that 40 republicans voted to raise these taxes, while it was the teabaggers that actually sided with the dems to shoot it down. But that...can't be right.

No, he submitted a budget that uses already passed "tax hikes" as an excuse to gut social programs.


Ah. Still retarded, but much more in line with the derp I already know.

Downgrading from
www.stopmyheadexploding.com
to
elisanebay.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-22 10:05:03 AM
St. Ronnie - Patron Saint of Deficits?
 
2013-03-22 10:06:48 AM

NateGrey: The GOP's most ardent tea partyers - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - opposed the measure, which projects a balanced budget in a decade but relies on $600 billion-plus in tax revenues on the wealthy enacted in January to do it.

Paul Ryan is a moran.


Heinlein's Razor ("Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice.) generally explains GOP voters, but for the Politicians in charge, it's usually the other way around.  They're malicious, using the stupidity of the voters to push plans like Ryan's.
 
2013-03-22 10:09:38 AM

Emposter: Heinlein's Razor ("Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice.)


Except for the part past the comma, that's a Napoleon quote if I am not mistaken.
 
2013-03-22 10:13:02 AM

TopNotched: I cant believe nobody has submitted the "story of the day".......George W. Bush, on why he is no longer a republican: "My dissent had nothing to do with principles; it was a matter of prudence or judgment. On foreign policy, Republicans had become the stupid party. And so it remains 10 years later." ..............I would do it but I have never had any luck getting green lit........


phaseolus: Here's the link (thanks Google), but it's not something W. Bush said. It's from an op-ed by Damon Linker, illustrated with a photo of Bush.


You have poor reading comprehension skills, but still can't get things greenlit? Weird. I thought misrepresenting the content of a link was a sure-fire way to get greenlit.
 
2013-03-22 10:21:39 AM

LordJiro: Muta: Why is Ryan still allowed to write budgets?  Didn't America send him a big FU last fall when they voted against him?

Because his district didn't have the sense to vote his ass out of Congress as well Wisconsin is gerrymandered to hell and back.


FTFY
/works in his district
 
2013-03-22 10:28:56 AM
So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?
 
2013-03-22 10:32:25 AM
GOP: Dems refuse to pass a budget!!!
 
2013-03-22 10:33:04 AM

randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?


Did you honestly think the Ryan budget, which guts Medicare, Medicaid and repeals ObamaCare was actually going to come even close to passing?  Are your blinders really that huge?

The House GOP leaders are completely delusional, they knew this bill would be DOA in the Senate, which is just like every other budget bill they've passed in the past four years.
 
2013-03-22 10:34:31 AM

randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?


Been out for about 2 months now, where have you been?
 
2013-03-22 10:37:09 AM

randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?


You are the type of person these theatrics play too.
 
2013-03-22 10:39:35 AM

randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?


Here ya go.
 
2013-03-22 10:45:56 AM
FTA: The Senate has soundly rejected a balanced budget plan authored by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan.

In a sane world, instead of formulating budgets, the only input Paul Ryan would be allowed to interject as a contributor to a system that affects a collection of American citizens would be the words "DING!  FRIES ARE DONE!!".
 
2013-03-22 10:50:51 AM

randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?


It's just some feathers covering a bloody stain now.
 
2013-03-22 10:52:31 AM

randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?


they have already passed and signed spending for this fiscal year. "Budget bills" actually do not fund anything so you thinking they are more important means you are a shiathead.

And someone already linked to you Obamas budget.
 
2013-03-22 10:53:56 AM
Wait. How did this fail when the dems did not get 60 votes to overcome the filibuster?

/s
 
2013-03-22 10:57:20 AM
Shiat, from the headline it makes it sound like with the tea partiers it would have passed.
 
2013-03-22 10:59:07 AM

randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?


You're usually my favorite thread shiatter around here but you seem off your game today.  You feelin' ok?
 
2013-03-22 11:04:32 AM

d_lebowski: randomjsa: So once again the "Do Nothing" congress is really just the Senate? Okay.

By the way where's Obama's budget?

You're usually my favorite thread shiatter around here but you seem off your game today.  You feelin' ok?


Don't you think he sounds tired?
 
2013-03-22 11:08:14 AM
Ted Cruz only cares about trolling and attention whoring.  He has absolutely no interest in real governing or making the trains run on time.
 
2013-03-22 11:12:27 AM

Sir-Marx-A-Lot: Wait. How did this fail when the dems did not get 60 votes to overcome the filibuster?

/s


What would be the point in filibustering a bill that you want to pass?
 
2013-03-22 11:12:47 AM
At least it got a fair up or down vote, Reid didn't block from getting voted on, or send it to die in committe. It wasn't even filabustered.
 
2013-03-22 11:17:09 AM
So are there any OTHER solutions the progressives can come up with aside from 1) higher taxes and 2) gutting the defense budget (not saying it shouldn't be gutted, but you MUST address entitlements in order to make a dent in the problem)?
 
2013-03-22 11:20:34 AM

Hydra: 2) gutting the defense budget (not saying it shouldn't be gutted, but you MUST address entitlements in order to make a dent in the problem)?


*sigh* you missed the President going on about how he wants to reform entitlements so they're more efficient with less of a fiscal footprint, didn't you? And his openness to reforming the CoL increase for SS is pissing off democrats, right?
 
2013-03-22 11:22:09 AM

Hydra: ou MUST address entitlements in order to make a dent in the problem)?


Why?
 
2013-03-22 11:22:41 AM

Hydra: So are there any OTHER solutions the progressives can come up with aside from 1) higher taxes and 2) gutting the defense budget (not saying it shouldn't be gutted, but you MUST address entitlements in order to make a dent in the problem)?


Why must you address entitlements?
 
2013-03-22 11:23:03 AM

Hydra: So are there any OTHER solutions the progressives can come up with aside from 1) higher taxes and 2) gutting the defense budget (not saying it shouldn't be gutted, but you MUST address entitlements in order to make a dent in the problem)?


1) Allow Medicare Part D to negotiate prescription drug prices like every other prescription drug program the government runs.
2) Not so much "gut" the defense budget, but actually allow the Pentagon to set their budget based on what they need instead of what Congress tells them they need.
3) Take some of that savings and instead of just banking it, turn around and invest in rebuilding our infrastructure, like the 70,000 bridges that reportedly need work done on them (which will in turn employ people which will in turn increase tax revenues and decrease the burden of welfare payments).
4) End corporate welfare for oil companies making billions of dollars in profit per month.

That's four suggestions.  With more time I'm sure I could come up with plenty more.
 
2013-03-22 11:24:43 AM

Hydra: So are there any OTHER solutions the progressives can come up with aside from 1) higher taxes and 2) gutting the defense budget (not saying it shouldn't be gutted, but you MUST address entitlements in order to make a dent in the problem)?


So are there any OTHER solutions the regressive talking heads think progressives suggest that they can 1) demagogue and 2)misrepresent(by way of reducto ad absurdum)?
 
2013-03-22 11:31:29 AM

GameSprocket: Sir-Marx-A-Lot: Wait. How did this fail when the dems did not get 60 votes to overcome the filibuster?

/s

What would be the point in filibustering a bill that you want to pass?


Increased gridlock you can blame on democrats, and therefore, Obama.
 
2013-03-22 11:31:48 AM
Side with Ted Cruz or side with Paul Ryan's budget....

/suicide is the only way, it seems.
 
2013-03-22 11:32:31 AM
Dog Welder:
2) Not so much "gut" the defense budget, but actually allow the Pentagon to set their budget based on what they need instead of what Congress tells them they need.

Surely you must know by now that even breathing you want to lower defense spending brands you as un-American and is borderline treason. The terrorists will win if we cut it by even .01!
 
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