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(NBC News)   Congress: The Postal Service needs to save money. USPS: Ok, we'll cut delivery in order to save money. Congress: No. USPS: WTF? Congress: The Postal Service needs to save money   (nbcnews.com) divider line 161
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2013-03-21 01:23:23 PM
I'd say the halls of power are full of second graders, but I'm pretty sure second graders could do a better job.
 
2013-03-21 01:33:57 PM
It's similar to how they treat Amtrak.
 
2013-03-21 01:45:00 PM
that's when their kickback checks come in, and they can't possibly wait until Monday to get them.
 
2013-03-21 02:19:24 PM

King Something: It's similar to how they treat Amtrak.


I'm just shaking my head slowly.
 
2013-03-21 02:29:32 PM

King Something: It's similar to how they treat Amtrak.


I seem to remember a republican push to sell off the profitable portions of Amtrak (NYC-Washington, et al) and leave the unprofitable portions under government control. Then they could come back a few years later and say- Look! the free market is doing great with the portions that we sold off- let's dump the rest- or close it!
 
2013-03-21 03:48:06 PM
Me: Why doesn't the post office raise the price on bulk mail, charge the same as just a plain old first-class letter?

Whiners: But bulk mail is 90% of what the post office carries! They'd only have 10% of the volume if you did that!

Me: And this is bad because...?
 
2013-03-21 03:54:29 PM
That's because the goal is not to make the USPS profitable, the goal is to make it go away.
 
2013-03-21 03:57:47 PM
Here's a revolutionary idea.... Instead of charging 41(?) cents for each piece of general mail, you charge $1. It would still be basically the cheapest thing you can buy on the planet for $1. I'm going to go ahead and guess that elasticity of demand is quite elastic for people who need to send physical mail around. Their alternative is to spend $5+ with Fedex
 
2013-03-21 03:58:22 PM
Damnit. Change elastic to inelastic above... The elasticity of demand on mail is INelastic.
 
2013-03-21 04:17:49 PM

Nadie_AZ: King Something: It's similar to how they treat Amtrak.

I'm just shaking my head slowly.


exactly.
 
2013-03-21 04:19:22 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's because the goal is not to make the USPS profitable, the goal is to make it go away.


Or sell it to the highest bidder

/why do they hate the Constitution?
 
2013-03-21 04:28:28 PM
It's the stupid law CONGRESS made where the USPS has to put BILLIONS every year into a fund for future retiree's benefits. There is already enough money in that fund to fund the benefits 60 years, but Congress won't modify or drop the law.
 
2013-03-21 04:38:58 PM

justtray: Here's a revolutionary idea.... Instead of charging 41(?) cents for each piece of general mail, you charge $1. It would still be basically the cheapest thing you can buy on the planet for $1. I'm going to go ahead and guess that elasticity of demand is quite elastic for people who need to send physical mail around. Their alternative is to spend $5+ with Fedex


I've been thinking the same thing, I'd be happy to pay $1 considering the volume of mail I send.  The only thing I really use the post office for anymore is sending Priority Mail packages and I do all of that through their automated system.  I have the boxes delivered to my house, pay for the shipping online and then drop it in my mailbox.  If I'm in a real hurry, I take it to my local post office and drop it in their chute.  Hell, with very little work, they could have that completely automated as well, it would never have to touch a human hand until it got to the delivery person.
 
2013-03-21 04:41:50 PM

unlikely: Me: Why doesn't the post office raise the price on bulk mail, charge the same as just a plain old first-class letter?


justtray: Here's a revolutionary idea.... Instead of charging 41(?) cents for each piece of general mail, you charge $1. It would still be basically the cheapest thing you can buy on the planet for $1.


Surprise, Congress controls USPS rates, too. First-class rates are currently capped to inflation.
 
2013-03-21 04:48:45 PM

DrRatchet: unlikely: Me: Why doesn't the post office raise the price on bulk mail, charge the same as just a plain old first-class letter?

justtray: Here's a revolutionary idea.... Instead of charging 41(?) cents for each piece of general mail, you charge $1. It would still be basically the cheapest thing you can buy on the planet for $1.

Surprise, Congress controls USPS rates, too. First-class rates are currently capped to inflation.


Uh... I know? So what? Increase the price, I don't care who is in charge of it.
 
2013-03-21 04:49:59 PM

justtray: DrRatchet: unlikely: Me: Why doesn't the post office raise the price on bulk mail, charge the same as just a plain old first-class letter?

justtray: Here's a revolutionary idea.... Instead of charging 41(?) cents for each piece of general mail, you charge $1. It would still be basically the cheapest thing you can buy on the planet for $1.

Surprise, Congress controls USPS rates, too. First-class rates are currently capped to inflation.

Uh... I know? So what? Increase the price, I don't care who is in charge of it.


Well, increasing the price is effectively as easy as unfarking this mess because it's under control of the same dipshiats.
 
2013-03-21 04:50:57 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's because the goal is not to make the USPS profitable, the goal is to make it go away.


ding ding ding
 
2013-03-21 04:51:48 PM

justtray: Uh... I know? So what? Increase the price, I don't care who is in charge of it.


Congress includes The House, so nothing is going to happen there.

Walker: It's the stupid law CONGRESS made where the USPS has to put BILLIONS every year into a fund for future retiree's benefits. There is already enough money in that fund to fund the benefits 60 years, but Congress won't modify or drop the law.


The Senate passed S.1789 to fix that (and other things) last year, but it was blocked by brave House Republicans.
 
2013-03-21 05:09:20 PM
why the feck doesn't the USPS just raise the price of a first class stamp to a buck? If you gotta mail something, you gotta mail something. It's still going to be cheaper than mailing via UPS or FDX. How much business could they lose?
 
2013-03-21 05:11:37 PM

justtray: Instead of charging 41(?) cents for each piece of general mail, you charge $1. It would still be basically the cheapest thing you can buy on the planet for $1.


Are you sure?  I could have swore that Lindsay Lohan was going for only 99 cents.

/snark
 
2013-03-21 05:11:38 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's because the goal is not to make the USPS profitable, the goal is to make it go away.


Indeed. We need to concoct a way for the republican sacks of shiat to go away....
 
2013-03-21 05:13:43 PM
Also I'm pretty sure we can thank our wonderful friends at FedEx and UPS for this whole bullshiat as well.
 
2013-03-21 05:14:10 PM

skullkrusher: why the feck doesn't the USPS just raise the price of a first class stamp to a buck? If you gotta mail something, you gotta mail something. It's still going to be cheaper than mailing via UPS or FDX. How much business could they lose?


DrRatchet: Surprise, Congress controls USPS rates, too. First-class rates are currently capped to inflation.


Also, THIS:

DrRatchet: Walker: It's the stupid law CONGRESS made where the USPS has to put BILLIONS every year into a fund for future retiree's benefits. There is already enough money in that fund to fund the benefits 60 years, but Congress won't modify or drop the law.

The Senate passed S.1789 to fix that (and other things) last year, but it was blocked by brave House Republicans.

 
Bf+
2013-03-21 05:16:06 PM
Congress treats the USPS like UPS treats fragile packages.
 
2013-03-21 05:16:30 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: justtray: Instead of charging 41(?) cents for each piece of general mail, you charge $1. It would still be basically the cheapest thing you can buy on the planet for $1.

Are you sure?  I could have swore that Lindsay Lohan was going for only 99 cents.

/snark


I'm pretty sure she couldn't even get 50 Cent these days.
 
2013-03-21 05:16:53 PM

skullkrusher: why the feck doesn't the USPS just raise the price of a first class stamp to a buck? If you gotta mail something, you gotta mail something. It's still going to be cheaper than mailing via UPS or FDX. How much business could they lose?


I don't think it's entirely up to the Postal Service, they have to deal with something called the  Postal Regulatory Commission. I'm having trouble figuring out who that is and who it answers to, but I THINK it answers to Congress. If it answers to Congress, it's unlikely to be interested in helping the Postal Service.
 
2013-03-21 05:18:45 PM

skullkrusher: why the feck doesn't the USPS just raise the price of a first class stamp to a buck? If you gotta mail something, you gotta mail something. It's still going to be cheaper than mailing via UPS or FDX. How much business could they lose?


Congress refuses to allow them to do so.
 
2013-03-21 05:19:40 PM
That sounds about right. Like everything else Congress does.

You need to save money! Cut spending!

Agency: Okay, we'll make our cuts right here.

No! You can't do that. Your mandate says you need that!

Agency: But you said we had to save money and cut spending.

You do! So get cutting and saving! Just not that....or those....or them. But cut something! And save something!

Congress really really likes the idea of cutting and saving. They just don't like the reality.
 
2013-03-21 05:20:00 PM
I'd be more on the side of the USPS if the local office didn't lose my mail all the damn time.
 
2013-03-21 05:21:54 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: skullkrusher: why the feck doesn't the USPS just raise the price of a first class stamp to a buck? If you gotta mail something, you gotta mail something. It's still going to be cheaper than mailing via UPS or FDX. How much business could they lose?

Congress refuses to allow them to do so.


rock and a hard place, eh?
 
2013-03-21 05:25:26 PM
USPS mail is mostly just physical spam for me anymore.
 
2013-03-21 05:25:31 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's because the goal is not to make the USPS profitable, the goal is to make it go away.


Which is ironic since the USPS is actually one of the fuctions of government explicitly in the Constitution.
 
2013-03-21 05:26:05 PM

Master of the Flying Guillotine: I'd be more on the side of the USPS if the local office didn't lose my mail all the damn time.


Just out of curiosity -- is your username a play off of a song found on the Street Fighter (movie) soundtrack?

/if so, that's double-plus awesome
 
2013-03-21 05:26:54 PM

King Something: It's similar to how they treat Amtrak.


And the DoD, with respect to BRAC and procurements.
 
2013-03-21 05:27:29 PM

skullkrusher: Grand_Moff_Joseph: skullkrusher: why the feck doesn't the USPS just raise the price of a first class stamp to a buck? If you gotta mail something, you gotta mail something. It's still going to be cheaper than mailing via UPS or FDX. How much business could they lose?

Congress refuses to allow them to do so.

rock and a hard place, eh?


Designed to fail, then a nice sweet contract gets awarded to a private corp for mail delivery and someone claims that's enough to satisfy the Constitution's requirement to establish post offices.
 
2013-03-21 05:28:10 PM

DrRatchet: Surprise, Congress controls USPS rates, too. First-class rates are currently capped to inflation.


so match bulk rate to that and you have a winner
 
2013-03-21 05:28:44 PM
Whenever something like this happens Congress gets an "estimate" of the damage it will do to the economy.  You see, despite what you may think, people receiving mail on Saturdays helps people work on Saturdays.

So they probably got a $100 billion a year loss estimate due to lost productivity and now they have cold feet
.
 
2013-03-21 05:28:46 PM
USPS has a federal mandate to staff and serve every post office in the country.

Congress decides to make post office for their shiatty town in their shiatty district for freedom.

USPS must now service that post office without tax payer support for a government mandated responsibilty.
USPS tries to close non-profitable Post Offices and consolidate their services for efficiency.  Congress say go fark yourselves.

i.imgur.com

*but I'm sure this is all the union's fault somehow
 
2013-03-21 05:30:11 PM
Saturday delivery is sochuhlism.
 
2013-03-21 05:30:58 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: USPS has a federal mandate to staff and serve every post office in the country.

Congress decides to make post office for their shiatty town in their shiatty district for freedom.

USPS must now service that post office without tax payer support for a government mandated responsibilty.
USPS tries to close non-profitable Post Offices and consolidate their services for efficiency.  Congress say go fark yourselves.

[i.imgur.com image 510x510]

*but I'm sure this is all the union's fault somehow


And then close down processing centers instead.  Sofa king we tar dead.
 
2013-03-21 05:31:52 PM

Walker: It's the stupid law CONGRESS made where the USPS has to put BILLIONS every year into a fund for future retiree's benefits. There is already enough money in that fund to fund the benefits 60 years, but Congress won't modify or drop the law.

 
2013-03-21 05:32:51 PM
Congressional Motto:  if it ain't broke, break it & complain.


although, i can appreciate these two bozos for their attempts to be reasonable & flexible on this issue;
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Sen. Tom Coburn, R- Okla.
 
2013-03-21 05:33:37 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's because the goal is not to make the USPS profitable, the goal is to make it go away.


And I have a feeling it's going to happen in our lifetime.
 
2013-03-21 05:40:30 PM
Yeah, congress wants to kill the USPS. They'd  MUCH rather send all that business to FedEx and UPS. Then they can get some nice fat campaign dollars from them to keep the USPS out of the picture, AND the UPS and FedEx stock they own will be worth more.

I also think that the feds like the idea of getting rid of snail mail becasue electronic communications are much easier to monitor.
 
2013-03-21 05:41:38 PM

meat0918: skullkrusher: Grand_Moff_Joseph: skullkrusher: why the feck doesn't the USPS just raise the price of a first class stamp to a buck? If you gotta mail something, you gotta mail something. It's still going to be cheaper than mailing via UPS or FDX. How much business could they lose?

Congress refuses to allow them to do so.

rock and a hard place, eh?

Designed to fail, then a nice sweet contract gets awarded to a private corp for mail delivery and someone claims that's enough to satisfy the Constitution's requirement to establish post offices.


we're getting close to the point where that requirement is a bit of an anachronism. Besides, isn't the postal service a power of Congress, not a requirement?
 
2013-03-21 05:42:13 PM

unlikely: Me: Why doesn't the post office raise the price on bulk mail, charge the same as just a plain old first-class letter?


Because USPS is mandated, by law, to make each class of mail pay for itself.  Bulk mail can subsidize first class mail and vice versa.
 
2013-03-21 05:43:17 PM
Congress is full of hypocritical retards who make grand claims but whose actions don't match their promises?

I'm shocked.  Shocked.
 
2013-03-21 05:44:19 PM

skullkrusher: we're getting close to the point where that requirement is a bit of an anachronism. Besides, isn't the postal service a power of Congress, not a requirement?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Clause
Yes? I think?

WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE FOUNDERS???!?!?!
 
2013-03-21 05:48:45 PM
Hey, here's how to make some money.

Tell Congress "Well fine... Okay, no more free franking for you"

Cut all free governmental mailings.... make them pay for it. No more free "Re-elect me" mail being sent to people

That'll help put money in the coffers or keep congress out of their business.
 
2013-03-21 05:49:48 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE FOUNDERS???!?!?!


for people to be able to cheaply, quickly, privately communicate with each other.
 
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