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2013-03-21 01:59:16 PM
FTA:  "Eating lots of foods that are good for your health isn't bad for you. Rather, eating foods high in carbohydrates, processed additives and high sugar content is," says Salerno, who has worked with actress Suzanne Somers and Hollywood producer Stephen J. Cannell."

So, wait...He's friends with Chrissy Snow the Thighmaster™ lady, AND the guy who tears the magic paper out of the typewriter at the end of "The Rockford Files?"

Seems legit.

/like i wasn't gonna eat bacon anyway
 
2013-03-21 02:06:24 PM
*Study sponsored by the pork & dairy marketing council.
 
2013-03-21 02:15:47 PM
That isn't happiness, that's a heart attack.
 
2013-03-21 02:20:32 PM
Does anyone make bacon without nitrates?
 
2013-03-21 02:59:20 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Does anyone make bacon without nitrates?


Butcher shop, otherwise the botulism will kill you.
 
2013-03-21 03:00:30 PM
Bacon Cheddar Ice Cream.

Sounds better than some of the crap they currently sell.
=Smidge=
 
2013-03-21 03:00:52 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Does anyone make bacon without nitrates?


Also be aware the bacon that says "no nitrates" is lying, it's just nitrated differently so they can claim that.
 
2013-03-21 03:02:41 PM

MaxxLarge: FTA:  "Eating lots of foods that are good for your health isn't bad for you. Rather, eating foods high in carbohydrates, processed additives and high sugar content is," says Salerno, who has worked with actress Suzanne Somers and Hollywood producer Stephen J. Cannell."

So, wait...He's friends with Chrissy Snow the Thighmaster™ lady, AND the guy who tears the magic paper out of the typewriter at the end of "The Rockford Files?"

Seems legit.

/like i wasn't gonna eat bacon anyway


it's and entirely kind of theory, all together
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2013-03-21 03:03:53 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Does anyone make bacon without nitrates?


Yup. Just google "uncured bacon" and you might even be able to find something available locally.
 
2013-03-21 03:04:03 PM

FARK rebel soldier: AdolfOliverPanties: Does anyone make bacon without nitrates?

Also be aware the bacon that says "no nitrates" is lying, it's just nitrated differently so they can claim that.


And for god's sake don't buy reduced sodium bacon. It is horrible. Buy the real stuff.
 
2013-03-21 03:04:16 PM
I'll stick with licorice ice cream.
 
2013-03-21 03:04:54 PM
Add beer to that and you may have found the equivalent to heaven
 
2013-03-21 03:05:13 PM
I have a horrible confession; I actually prefer turkey bacon to pork bacon.

I'm so sorry, internet. Will you forgive my sins if I dip it in Nutella?
 
2013-03-21 03:06:25 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Does anyone make bacon without nitrates?


http://www.fleishers.com/
 
2013-03-21 03:06:38 PM
Viewed by many as an unhealthy pleasure, Salerno, New York-based author of The Silver Cloud Diet, says bacon is also an excellent source of low-carbohydrate energy that helps to reset the metabolism

Great work there, Joanne Richard. Top-notch writing.
 
2013-03-21 03:07:48 PM
Says "diet" author who in no way is trying to sell books based on her personal experience.

Everything is good for you in moderation,
 
2013-03-21 03:10:40 PM

Gig103: That isn't happiness, that's a heart attack.


Dies it matter? With enough bacon you could live forever in a single day.
 
2013-03-21 03:12:59 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Says "diet" author who in no way is trying to sell books based on her personal experience.

Everything is good for you in moderation,


Exactly why I keep smoking; I figure it's only a matter of time until they say a wee bit of cancer is a good thing.
 
2013-03-21 03:17:59 PM

Gig103: That isn't happiness, that's a heart attack.


Um, not necessarily. My neurologist put me on a high-protein, high fat (27-33%, unsaturated), low processed carb diet three and a half years ago. Not only did I lose over 50 pounds, it's improved my cognitive function. No elevation in cholesterol levels, either. He's correct about grass-fed, organic meats (no steroids, corn fed, factory farmed meats). You will lose weight, not have to worry about portion size, increase your metabolism, improve cognitive function, and have many other benefits... but not if you eat the crap that comes from most groceries that is corn fed and full of steroids and hormones.

Free range, grass fed is more expensive, but the studies most are doing say meat, pork and dairy are bad for you because they're not studying free range, grass fed, ungenetically modified foods. Of course the studies will indicate that shiat is unhealthy and bad for you...because it is!
 
2013-03-21 03:19:56 PM
jesus farking christ. enough with the bacon shiat already. what the fark.
 
2013-03-21 03:26:11 PM
Question one: Can someone cite *any* professional, peer-reviewed scientific /medical study to support the assumption that organic foods are in any way superior to regular foods?

I've been looking for years, but the only ones I found either show NO advantage to organic, are inferior, or are funded by the organic industry itself.

Question two: Why is it so rare for anyone to challenge the assumption that organic = better?
 
2013-03-21 03:33:00 PM
MaxxLarge:

Seems legit.

This

/if you can't trust a celebrity dietician, who CAN you trust??
 
2013-03-21 03:33:35 PM
On self publicising guru vs scientific study?

Mmmmm ....
 
2013-03-21 03:34:38 PM

Steven Cleamer: jesus farking christ. enough with the bacon shiat already. what the fark.


YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
 
2013-03-21 03:35:12 PM
Unfortunately nitrates the secret ingredient that, though completely unhealthy, are the x-factor in deliciousness.
 
2013-03-21 03:37:38 PM

Gig103: That isn't happiness, that's a heart attack.


keep parroting that lie!
 
2013-03-21 03:39:56 PM
How does one become a celebrity dietitian?  And what does that mean- that you are a celebrated dietian or that you are a dietitan to celebrities?
 
2013-03-21 03:42:15 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=485Em2JF34M

: This morning for breakfast he requested something called "wheat germ, organic honey and tiger's milk."
: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?
: Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
: Incredible.
 
2013-03-21 03:43:29 PM

Dr_Gene: Question one: Can someone cite *any* professional, peer-reviewed scientific /medical study to support the assumption that organic foods are in any way superior to regular foods?

I've been looking for years, but the only ones I found either show NO advantage to organic, are inferior, or are funded by the organic industry itself.

Question two: Why is it so rare for anyone to challenge the assumption that organic = better?


I don't know about healthier, but it sure does taste better when I get my meat from the organic grass fed butcher than if i get it from the regular butcher or the grocery store.  It seems to absorb flavor a lot better, be richer, and have a much more marbled texture.  The meat is certainly denser.  For example, at the grocery store, the smallest young chicken i can get is around 5 pounds.  It takes approximately 2.5 hours to bring that bird up to 165 degrees smoking it at ~240 degrees.  However, from the organic butcher, the young chickens i get are 3 - 3.5 lbs and they can take up to 3.5 hours to bring to temperature when smoking at ~240 degrees.  Both chickens are prepared the exact same way via a 6 hour brine and then dry rubbed.

I have compared Pork Shoulders, Pork Ribs, Chickens, Burgers, Sausages, and high end steak cuts from both the organic butcher and the regular butcher, and the taste is incredibly better at the organic butcher.  However the price is quite a bit more, usually 3x what it is at the grocery store.
 
2013-03-21 03:44:52 PM

echomike23: it's an entirely different kind of theory, all together


(ftfy)

it's an entirely different kind of theory.
 
2013-03-21 03:48:17 PM

Dr_Gene: Question one: Can someone cite *any* professional, peer-reviewed scientific /medical study to support the assumption that organic foods are in any way superior to regular foods?

I've been looking for years, but the only ones I found either show NO advantage to organic, are inferior, or are funded by the organic industry itself.

Question two: Why is it so rare for anyone to challenge the assumption that organic = better?


The assumption "organic=better" is too vague to be of any use.  What do you mean by "better"?

Using no pesticides is clearly better for the environment as a whole.
Using no fossil-fuel-derived fertilizers is clearly better as well, unless you buy into the whole abiogenesis theory of fossil fuels, which is crackpot BS.
 
2013-03-21 03:50:06 PM

CastorPimp: Gig103: That isn't happiness, that's a heart attack.

keep parroting that lie!


THIS

Why won't this myth die!?  "Fat causes heart attacks"

No!   An unhealthy diet full of processed, highly caloric, yet nutritionally deficient foods does.  It causes chronic, systemic inflammation.  THAT causes (among other things) heart attacks.

I know it's a big word, people, but just try and sound it out.

IN-FLAMM-ATION

Eat real food, ya jerks
 
2013-03-21 03:51:03 PM
Been saying this for years since I added it to the end of my profile. 44 now and it's so easy to stay in shape. I'm not nearly as strict as I was when I wrote that. Once you learn and start doing the basics it's quite simple.
i3.photobucket.com

Reminds me...gotta run...
 
2013-03-21 03:54:17 PM

Aigoo: Um, not necessarily.


CastorPimp: keep parroting that lie!


japlemon: THIS


I was just trying to be funny. Not serious, or trolling, just funny.
 
2013-03-21 03:56:33 PM

Dr_Gene: Question one: Can someone cite *any* professional, peer-reviewed scientific /medical study to support the assumption that organic foods are in any way superior to regular foods?

I've been looking for years, but the only ones I found either show NO advantage to organic, are inferior, or are funded by the organic industry itself.

Question two: Why is it so rare for anyone to challenge the assumption that organic = better?


I don't have a citation, however I do recall reading about a study that found organic foods where you eat the outside of the food (i.e. potatoes with the skin on, broccoli) had higher levels of nutrients than non-organic. The theory being, they needed to be heartier and more resilient in order to survive without pesticides. Food like bananas, oranges, peeled carrots had no difference.
 
2013-03-21 03:58:51 PM

brap: Unfortunately nitrates the secret ingredient that, though completely unhealthy, are the x-factor in deliciousness.


This. They aren't that bad on the scale of things to give you cancer. At least they are "all natural". Unlike half the crap in food. Like all the stuff that gets into seafood.
 
2013-03-21 04:06:16 PM

japlemon: CastorPimp: Gig103: That isn't happiness, that's a heart attack.

keep parroting that lie!

THIS

Why won't this myth die!?  "Fat causes heart attacks"


Because it's easier than saying "saturated and trans fat intake is highly correlated with heart disease and lowering saturated and trans fat intake reduces that risk."
 
2013-03-21 04:10:33 PM
Is the Unlikely tag on vacation?
 
2013-03-21 04:12:42 PM
Animal fats are good for you.  Lots of fat soluble vitamins in there.

Overprocessed (because bacon, ice cream, and cheese are all technically processed) hydrolyzed vegetable fat laden, sugar dense crap isn't.
 
2013-03-21 04:15:20 PM

Oznog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=485Em2JF34M

: This morning for breakfast he requested something called "wheat germ, organic honey and tiger's milk."
: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?
: Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
: Incredible.


Woody Allen was prescient
 
2013-03-21 04:17:44 PM
There are certain animals on this earth that I believe were only put here so that we humans can eat them..

What else do pigs do,  except be yummy?
And chickens come on they were just designed for their legs to be fried and eaten,  why else are they  hand size.   Add to that the skin of both chickens and pig are  delicious and why make them so delicious if they were not designed for us humans to eat.    They also can produce yummy yummy eggs throughout the whole day.  Surely the earth would have no need for that many chickens that don't actually do anything and thus they were obviously put on this earth so we can eat them.

That is right the sole purpose of chickens and pigs is for humans to eat and that is why they evolved in the first place.
 
2013-03-21 04:20:02 PM

CheekyMonkey: Dr_Gene: Question one: Can someone cite *any* professional, peer-reviewed scientific /medical study to support the assumption that organic foods are in any way superior to regular foods?


The assumption "organic=better" is too vague to be of any use.  What do you mean by "better"?


Yes, it IS vague and undocumented- that's the problem. In the article, for example, the author says "Be sure to buy organic".. that implies organic is inherently 'better', but does say why.

Using no pesticides is clearly better for the environment as a whole.

Not necessarily, as organic farmers DO use pesticides, just not certain synthetic ones. I read that the 'organic permissible' is actually worse than some synthetics... but again, no proper citations.


Using no fossil-fuel-derived fertilizers is clearly better as well, unless you buy into the whole abiogenesis theory of fossil fuels, which is crackpot BS.

Again, not necessarily, as organic farmers have to control weeds by tillage they will burn a lot more fossil fuels than otherwise.  It isn't a simple answer. That's why I'd like citations to solid scientific studies
 
2013-03-21 04:22:03 PM
So I'm gonna live to like a hundred and eleventy?
 
2013-03-21 04:23:14 PM

Glenford: Dr_Gene: Question one: Can someone cite *any* professional, peer-reviewed scientific /medical study to support the assumption that organic foods are in any way superior to regular foods?

I've been looking for years, but the only ones I found either show NO advantage to organic, are inferior, or are funded by the organic industry itself.

Question two: Why is it so rare for anyone to challenge the assumption that organic = better?

I don't have a citation, however I do recall reading about a study that found organic foods where you eat the outside of the food (i.e. potatoes with the skin on, broccoli) had higher levels of nutrients than non-organic. The theory being, they needed to be heartier and more resilient in order to survive without pesticides. Food like bananas, oranges, peeled carrots had no difference.


Organic methods tend to improve the soil as well.  Something as simple as planting a cover crop inbetween harvests can dramatically improve a crop, organically grown or not.
 
2013-03-21 04:23:20 PM

Kwality Assurance: Been saying this for years since I added it to the end of my profile. 44 now and it's so easy to stay in shape. I'm not nearly as strict as I was when I wrote that. Once you learn and start doing the basics it's quite simple.
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Reminds me...gotta run...


Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

No, seriously.

Been doing three weeks of 1 hour cardio 5/6 times a week. I feel a whole lot better, but haven't been peeling pounds. My calorie intake isn't that much, (as far as I can tell).

Seeing your page, I'm wondering if the weight training is the missing link. (And maybe I'm eating too little)
 
2013-03-21 04:26:47 PM
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2013-03-21 04:29:40 PM
The author as a child:
cdn.hivehealthmedia.com
 
2013-03-21 04:31:11 PM

Dr_Gene: CheekyMonkey: Dr_Gene: Question one: Can someone cite *any* professional, peer-reviewed scientific /medical study to support the assumption that organic foods are in any way superior to regular foods?


The assumption "organic=better" is too vague to be of any use.  What do you mean by "better"?

Yes, it IS vague and undocumented- that's the problem. In the article, for example, the author says "Be sure to buy organic".. that implies organic is inherently 'better', but does say why.

Using no pesticides is clearly better for the environment as a whole.

Not necessarily, as organic farmers DO use pesticides, just not certain synthetic ones. I read that the 'organic permissible' is actually worse than some synthetics... but again, no proper citations.


Using no fossil-fuel-derived fertilizers is clearly better as well, unless you buy into the whole abiogenesis theory of fossil fuels, which is crackpot BS.

Again, not necessarily, as organic farmers have to control weeds by tillage they will burn a lot more fossil fuels than otherwise.  It isn't a simple answer. That's why I'd like citations to solid scientific studies


I've read lots of advice about how nicotine based homebrewed pesticide is a great organic alternative to commercial sprays.  Just make sure you buy the organically grown tobacco to make it.

At least I've noticed disclaimers now about how toxic those types of homemade organic nicotine sprays are to just about everything, especially bees.  Nicotine based pesticides can kill everything, mammal or insect.

// Just now discovered the EPA has canceled the registration of nicotine as a pesticide.
/// I bet we get a story next year about how the EPA hates organic farmers since they are "banning" an organic pesticide.
 
2013-03-21 04:34:01 PM

MaxxLarge: FTA:  "Eating lots of foods that are good for your health isn't bad for you. Rather, eating foods high in carbohydrates, processed additives and high sugar content is," says Salerno, who has worked with actress Suzanne Somers and Hollywood producer Stephen J. Cannell."

So, wait...He's friends with Chrissy Snow the Thighmaster™ lady, AND the guy who tears the magic paper out of the typewriter at the end of "The Rockford Files?"

Seems legit.

/like i wasn't gonna eat bacon anyway


Not to mention the fact that Stephen J. Cannell died in 2010.
 
2013-03-21 04:45:16 PM
yeah bacon! cheese! and ice cream!

i've always argued these are good for you.  fats are good for you, twice the energy of other foods.  animal fats especially, they carry the soul of the beast and grant magic powers. that's why people/cuisine from the south are more interesting than people from the north.  they cook their stuff in bacon fat.
 
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