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(NBC News)   A spokesman for Hell sighs heavily and announces construction of a a new "special place" after the FBI arrests a couple that was planning on starting a babysitting business to get access to kids they could drug and use to produce child porn   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 285
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2013-03-21 01:01:08 PM
A decent example of vertical integration right there.
 
2013-03-21 01:10:58 PM
some animals need to be put down...
 
2013-03-21 01:42:54 PM
www.roflcat.com

Not clicking on that. No. Not happening. Don't want to know.
 
2013-03-21 01:47:44 PM
One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...
 
2013-03-21 01:50:32 PM

ManateeGag: some animals need to be put down...


Not good enough.
 
2013-03-21 01:52:12 PM
Hey, say what you will, at least they had a vision.
 
2013-03-21 01:54:26 PM
And this is why I thank FSM everyday for my mother in law and never having to put my kids in daycare. We will never be able to pay her enough for being able to watch them
 
2013-03-21 02:00:27 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism


If humans are good at one thing, it's thinking up horrifying ways of making other humans miserable. See: your link and TFA.
 
2013-03-21 02:01:14 PM
That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!
 
2013-03-21 02:13:54 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!


Yes it is.  Diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  It's the same thing as a Benadryl.

Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.

*themoreyouknow.jpg*
 
2013-03-21 02:15:47 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I'm anti-death penalty too, but mostly because I believe it lets them off easy.

Put these people in general population.  Let them live each day in constant fear.
 
2013-03-21 02:17:22 PM
Obligatory:

cdn1.screenrant.com
 
2013-03-21 02:18:04 PM

Lionel Mandrake: I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


Sounds like a party.  I'll bring the vodka.
 
2013-03-21 02:19:30 PM

jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!

Yes it is.  Diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  It's the same thing as a Benadryl.

Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.

*themoreyouknow.jpg*


Dimenhydrinate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimenhydrinate
 
2013-03-21 02:21:33 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

I'm anti-death penalty too, but mostly because I believe it lets them off easy.

Put these people in general population.  Let them live each day in constant fear.


Amen to that. The worst thing you can do to a person is take away their freedom and any hope of ever getting it back.  But it's not as gratifying as blowing off their genitalia and watching them bleed to death in agony, I will admit that.
 
2013-03-21 02:22:39 PM
In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"
 
2013-03-21 02:24:06 PM
Wait a sec.  If they were going to let a little girl have sex with a drugged up little boy, then that little boy just got incredibly lucky, right?  I mean, as long as the little girl was hot, of course.  What if it was two drugged up girls going at each other?  That's just awesome, right?  As long as it's not an older boy sleeping with a younger girl,  I don't see what the problem is...
 
2013-03-21 02:24:16 PM

hardinparamedic: jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!

Yes it is.  Diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  It's the same thing as a Benadryl.

Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.

*themoreyouknow.jpg*

Dimenhydrinate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimenhydrinate


also, dimenhydrinate is about half as effective as diphenhydramine by weight, so that was wrong too.
 
2013-03-21 02:24:37 PM

Ambivalence: I_Am_Weasel: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

I'm anti-death penalty too, but mostly because I believe it lets them off easy.

Put these people in general population.  Let them live each day in constant fear.

Amen to that. The worst thing you can do to a person is take away their freedom and any hope of ever getting it back.  But it's not as gratifying as blowing off their genitalia and watching them bleed to death in agony, I will admit that.


Take away all he has and all he's ever gonna have.
 
2013-03-21 02:25:15 PM

Calmamity: ManateeGag: some animals need to be put down...

Not good enough.


And I wall make them payyyy for what they've done (pops)
 
2013-03-21 02:25:47 PM
Just when I get to feeling like the world is boring and I've seen everything, someone comes along to expand the depths of my worldview.
 
2013-03-21 02:26:07 PM
Hang 'em and hang 'em high!
 
2013-03-21 02:26:17 PM
So I won't be receiving any return for investing in that Kickstarter?
 
2013-03-21 02:26:30 PM
Rub them down with mackarel and toss them in a pit of hungry seals.
 
2013-03-21 02:27:16 PM
I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?
 
2013-03-21 02:27:30 PM

Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"


Who the hell says that? Do you hang around at NAMBLA conventions or something? Even the bleeding-heart Fark ultra-libs don't generally stick up for kiddy-diddlers.
 
2013-03-21 02:28:06 PM

iheartscotch: Hang 'em and hang 'em high!


I don't like the death penalty but in the case of people who sexually abuse children there isn't a legally used form of execution cruel enough for them.
 
2013-03-21 02:28:18 PM
Special agents with the FBI and NYPD detectives arrested Bebars Baslan, 35, and Kristen Henry, 25, from Brooklyn, on Tuesday night at a hotel in Jersey City, N.J.

upload.wikimedia.org

RIP BEBAR
 
2013-03-21 02:28:32 PM
Bebars Baslan; crazy eyes.

www.sheepsheadbites.com

"Kristen Henry" is too common for a fix.
 
2013-03-21 02:28:36 PM
well, there goes my plans for the summer
 
2013-03-21 02:29:08 PM
Let me guess, they were going to open shop at Penn State?

Waiting for the alumni to come out defending the couple because they did something nice the week before so its okay that they wanted to molest little kids...
 
2013-03-21 02:29:28 PM
That article, or rather what those sickos were planning, made me physically sick. I guess it's a good thing I can't comprehend what's going on in their head.

Turn 'em over to parents that have lost children to people like this. Not long enough to kill them, but almost. Then do it again and again and again and...
 
2013-03-21 02:30:04 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.


Conspiring is doing.
 
2013-03-21 02:30:08 PM
These two know what's great about sex with twenty one year olds.
 
2013-03-21 02:30:55 PM
www.bsomusic.org

RIP Babar
 
2013-03-21 02:31:03 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.  You don't arrest people for planning. You arrest and prosecute for doing.


I think the thread is going to need to know whether or not you yourself are a child.  Because you boutta get raped.

Lionel Mandrake: I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.


It's situations and people like this that keep me pro-death penalty.  But I want it halted, significant reforms made first and then resumed.
 
2013-03-21 02:32:14 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


Conspiracy
 
2013-03-21 02:33:01 PM

what_now: [www.roflcat.com image 600x457]

Not clicking on that. No. Not happening. Don't want to know.


www.roflcat.com
 
2013-03-21 02:33:11 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Conspiring is doing.


Attempting a crime is also a crime.
 
2013-03-21 02:33:41 PM

A Terrible Human: iheartscotch: Hang 'em and hang 'em high!

I don't like the death penalty but in the case of people who sexually abuse children there isn't a legally used form of execution cruel enough for them.


We could tell the DOD that they are terrorists that have important information regarding Al Queda; and sit back and watch them be water boarded 10 times a day. That might be appropriate; given the nature of their crimes.

/ we could even broadcast it on pay-per-view; that would probably solve the debt crisis
 
2013-03-21 02:33:58 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


Conspiracy is a crime. Just one action to further the plan is enough to send everyone away for a long time.

/hanging way to good for this scum
 
2013-03-21 02:34:01 PM
I believe that skinning alive and staking to an anthill is the proper and humane punishment in this instance.
 
2013-03-21 02:34:06 PM
imgc.allpostersimages.com

Maybe it's time to start doing this again
 
2013-03-21 02:34:14 PM
Summon the meteor; time to reset the planet.
 
2013-03-21 02:34:39 PM
Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses?  Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history.
 
2013-03-21 02:34:44 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


These people were ACTIVELY searching out kids to molest. That's a bit different. They DO arrest people for conspiracy to commit murder and conspiracy to commit terror, so I see it being no different.
 
2013-03-21 02:35:13 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


This would be the charge I think.  Along with the porn they had at their place and any crimes related to if they created any of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_%28crime%29
 
2013-03-21 02:35:25 PM

mod3072: Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"

Who the hell says that? Do you hang around at NAMBLA conventions or something? Even the bleeding-heart Fark ultra-libs don't generally stick up for kiddy-diddlers.


Actually, I have seen such sentiments here.  It's single-issue morality, no different from "life is sacred from the moment of conception" or "a woman's body is hers alone." Every conflict with the single moral tenet is resolved in the tenet's favor.

Simplemindedness is not unique to liberalism or conservatism.
 
2013-03-21 02:35:48 PM
GIVE THEM THE DEATH PENALTY!!!!!! SICK BASTARDS

I mean how sick are these pervs. At least until their trial put them in general population and let everyone know what they did, then have the guards go on a coffee break and the Camera's stop working for a short period, if you know what I mean
 
2013-03-21 02:36:27 PM
I really need to refresh before posting.
 
2013-03-21 02:36:59 PM

graeth: Summon the meteor; time to reset the planet.


My name is Sephiroth, and I approve of this message.
 
2013-03-21 02:37:03 PM
Oh now everyone hates capitalism
 
2013-03-21 02:37:14 PM
BraveNewCheneyWorld


Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses? Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history

One would think but it is not like you go from shoplifting to embezzlement and off to kiddy diddler.
 
2013-03-21 02:37:24 PM
Well according to Dante's inferno they will be in the inner ring of the 7th layer of hell
 
2013-03-21 02:37:32 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


Then you're not really anti-death penalty, you just set the bar really high (or is that really low?).

If the urban legends about what happens to child molesters in prison are true, a lifetime in general population would be sufficient. Just make sure they can never harm a child--ever. If they live in fear of physical harm from their fellow inmates for the rest of their lives, oh well.
 
2013-03-21 02:37:34 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-21 02:37:36 PM
Dr. Dolan:    Right.  So how long have you had these pains, Mr. Barber.
Fletch:  No, that's "Babar".
Dr. Dolan:  Two "B"s?
Fletch: One "B".  B-A-B-A-R.
Dr. Dolan:  That's two.
Fletch:  Yeah, but not right next to each other.  I thought that's what you meant.
Dr. Dolan: Arnold Babar?  Isn't there a children's book about an elephant named Babar?
Fletch:  I don't know.  I don't have any.
Dr Dolan:  No children?
Fletch:  No elephant books.
 
2013-03-21 02:37:51 PM
Something something special place in hell something.


/story gives me the willies
//and the heebeegeebees
 
2013-03-21 02:38:02 PM

Scuttlebutt: I really need to refresh before posting.


Hot shower & coffee will refresh you.
 
2013-03-21 02:38:04 PM

mod3072: Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"

Who the hell says that? Do you hang around at NAMBLA conventions or something? Even the bleeding-heart Fark ultra-libs don't generally stick up for kiddy-diddlers.


Not even liberals?  Are you sure?

I don't see any FARK "conservatives" around, so I guess we can't ask the experts on what liberals believe...
 
2013-03-21 02:39:00 PM
Not the same thing, but a "youngish" couple going in together on such a disgusting plan kinda reminds me of this
 
2013-03-21 02:40:11 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

Then you're not really anti-death penalty, you just set the bar really high (or is that really low?).


Or I could be making a sick joke...

For the record: I'm against it.  Always.  But I'm not exactly heartbroken when it's used.
 
2013-03-21 02:40:52 PM
At the risk of starting a flame war, these are still allegations, right? Not yet convicted? Cops, including the FBI, make mistakes, or so I've read on Fark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
 
2013-03-21 02:40:57 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: BraveNewCheneyWorld


Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses? Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history

One would think but it is not like you go from shoplifting to embezzlement and off to kiddy diddler.


Don't you need a spotless record to be a bank teller?  Why should this be any less stringent?   Checking a criminal record isn't about the specific crimes, but rather the character of the individual.
 
2013-03-21 02:41:42 PM
According to the article, the couple already possessed child porn, showed it somebody, and then related their plans to open a day care to make some of their own.  Before they're left on a mountain top to die, we should probably study them.  I just can't fathom how you wake up and think this is a good idea.  Is it a gradual loss of humanity or are you just built like that? Then maybe a good draw and quarter as opposed to the mountain top.  We could put it on YouTube.
 
2013-03-21 02:41:43 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

I'm anti-death penalty too, but mostly because I believe it lets them off easy.

Put these people in general population.  Let them live each day in constant fear.


Like that degenerate in that thread from the other day that carjacked a woman and her 10-year-old girl, raped the girl, then stabbed the mother to death as she escaped. One day in GP, he ended up with a busted face.
 
2013-03-21 02:42:06 PM
Time for inoculation with Clostridium deficile
 
2013-03-21 02:42:16 PM
I would be OK with handing them over to a Dahmer type for his personal amusement.

You know, drilling a hole in their skulls and pouring in chemicals to "make them zombies", letting the guy have sex with their unable-to-fight-back bodies, killing them, letting the guy slice open their now dead bodies and have sex with their entrails, and rewarding the punisher with a nice fried bicep sandwich.

We have to use our prison resources wisely, people!
 
2013-03-21 02:42:29 PM
And who says small business and the entrepreneurial spirit is dead in this country?
 
2013-03-21 02:42:52 PM
HalfOffOffer: [imgc.allpostersimages.com image 473x355]

Maybe it's time to start doing this again


Hanging? that's way too humane. I say they should dig up zombie Torquemada and go full inquisition on their asses.
 
2013-03-21 02:43:04 PM

Killer Cars: Not the same thing, but a "youngish" couple going in together on such a disgusting plan kinda reminds me of this


Can you believe she's actually out now. Sheesh.
 
2013-03-21 02:43:15 PM
Its a bad day to be against capital punishment
 
2013-03-21 02:43:31 PM

rkiller1: At the risk of starting a flame war, these are still allegations, right? Not yet convicted? Cops, including the FBI, make mistakes, or so I've read on Fark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege


Um, what about that direct quote from the guy about if they give the kid enough drugs, he won't know what's going on for a minute? Sick. Sick sick sick. I WANT THEM TARRED AND FEATHERED, THEN DRAWN AND QUARTERED.
 
2013-03-21 02:43:50 PM
Please, they guy from Hell is not sighing, (S)He knows knows that there is no need to start construction yet. Once they die the demons say  that they are behind on construction torturer, so they have to work building others "special places" until their own is done. Once they go to start work they are told this torture is for Hitler/Sadam/Bin Laden/random jerk that they would want to see suffer, so they put in extra hard work to punish him good, and make certain there is no way out. Once they are don, the demon kicks them in and says "You have been building your own special place, not enjoy being tortured and violated by your own handiwork for all eternity" possibly with an "I lied its what we demons do" in the conversation somewhere. and walks away.
 
2013-03-21 02:44:22 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Bebars Baslan; crazy eyes.

"Kristen Henry" is too common for a fix.


I'll just fantasize that it's one of the hot ones
 
2013-03-21 02:44:37 PM
Mitch Taylor's Bro:

If the urban legends about what happens to child molesters in prison are true, a lifetime in general population would be sufficient.

Yeah, I know, but I really want this:  I don't want to assist in paying for their incarceration for several years, but I'll pony up for some honey and a couple of hollowed out logs.

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism
 
2013-03-21 02:46:46 PM
"Baslan and Henry are charged with aggravated sexual abuse and face 30 years to life in prison. Their lawyers had no comment. took it upon themselves to strangle the couple during preliminry interviews.  No charges were filed.'

How I'd like the article to have actually read.
 
2013-03-21 02:47:06 PM

jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!

Yes it is.  Diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  It's the same thing as a Benadryl.

Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.

*themoreyouknow.jpg*


Benadryl is a half of a dose of Unisom, that's what I think you're thinking of.
 
2013-03-21 02:47:14 PM
I don't see the problem. Kids are at the mercy of their raging hormones so of course they are going to be having sex. Just because they have more game and get more ass than you did at that age is no reason to throw down a cock-block.

I'm suddenly surrounded by puritans. What happened to Fark?
 
2013-03-21 02:47:32 PM

iheartscotch: we could even broadcast it on pay-per-view; that would probably solve the debt crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO6HV6xTmI
That puts me in mind of what George Carlin had to say about the death penalty.
 
2013-03-21 02:48:35 PM
abolish the death penalty--reinstitute torture.
 
2013-03-21 02:48:35 PM
In before those who say that you wanting them to be beaten and raped in prison is worse than what they were planning to do...
 
2013-03-21 02:48:45 PM

HalfOffOffer: [imgc.allpostersimages.com image 473x355]

Maybe it's time to start doing this again


You know the purpose of that was to provide a quick and merciful death, right?
 
2013-03-21 02:48:47 PM
People keep telling me that we don't need the death penalty any more but it is times like this that reminds me they are wrong.
 
2013-03-21 02:49:01 PM
I'd be ok with them cutting untill there was nothing left while pumping in adrenaline and blood expanders/whole blood as a means of lethal punishment for these people.

And tape that - to discourage any copycats.
 
2013-03-21 02:49:11 PM
Imma let you finish, Subby, but those inhuman crapsacks who imprisoned their son in a room for his entire childhood then sent the kid off on his 18th birthday to die starved and alone in a California Greyhound station still ranks as the Worst Couple of All Time. OF ALL TIME!!

ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-21 02:49:18 PM
Prosecutors say they believed they were going there to meet an acquaintance and three children, including a 1-year-old and a 3-month-old baby,

if i was the acquaintance i'd be afraid to turn them in because of the problem of guilt by association. the police may think you are a pedo also if the couple confided in you. maybe i'm tinfoil hat material but i can see the feds confiscating the computers of the acquaintance and finding a few pirated mp3s and software titles and nailing the acquaintance for 100k. hell, even if the prosecutor tries to ignore the stuff maybe the defense will try to bring it up to screw over the acquaintance for giggles.
 
2013-03-21 02:49:45 PM

cgraves67: I believe that skinning alive and staking to an anthill is the proper and humane punishment in this instance.


that sounds similar to an Apache form of execution, however, for completeness...

10 most gruesome forms of execution...

/I do not advocate execution btw... just interjecting some historical facts.
 
2013-03-21 02:49:56 PM

Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"


I'm not too sure you're going to see that...
 
2013-03-21 02:50:05 PM
As usual big gov getting in the way of job creators.
 
2013-03-21 02:50:26 PM

lennavan: But I want it halted, significant reforms made first and then resumed.


I'm pro death penalty.
But I'll concede to your wish in this case.
They should be marched up the gallows steps, Nooses place around their necks.
Then, it should be halted. The nooses removed. and the knots checked thoroughly to ensure they are tied correctly. 
Pass them around the crowd so they may inspect the workmanship. This is no ordinary boy scout knot.
Once everyone in the crowd has assurance that the knots are indeed tied correctly, resume, and put them back on their necks. Continue.
 
2013-03-21 02:51:05 PM

umad: I don't see the problem. Kids are at the mercy of their raging hormones so of course they are going to be having sex. Just because they have more game and get more ass than you did at that age is no reason to throw down a cock-block.

I'm suddenly surrounded by puritans. What happened to Fark?


Oh, I was waiting for you to show up and shiat in the thread. It seems to be your specialty.
 
2013-03-21 02:51:33 PM
BraveNewCheneyWorld


Random Anonymous Blackmail: BraveNewCheneyWorld


Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses? Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history

One would think but it is not like you go from shoplifting to embezzlement and off to kiddy diddler.

Don't you need a spotless record to be a bank teller? Why should this be any less stringent? Checking a criminal record isn't about the specific crimes, but rather the character of the individual.


I don't disagree, but they have to have a criminal record first.

If you are into the kids, you have either been caught or not. My guess is they have never been convicted.
 
2013-03-21 02:51:48 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


it's called "Conspiracy"  as in "We know what you are planning so we don't have to wait until you actually do it to charge you"  The threshold for consipiracy is to enter into a plan or scheme to commit an illegal act, and then take at least one overt step in furtherance of the plan.  So in this case, it would be enough if they articulated this plan and then bought a shiat-load of dramamine, or applied for a day care license
 
2013-03-21 02:52:50 PM

a21ozcoldcup: they did something nice the week before


Yeah, they opened a day care for single moms working two jobs.
 
2013-03-21 02:53:25 PM

Great Janitor: In before those who say that you wanting them to be beaten and raped in prison is worse than what they were planning to do...


If those people could live one day as someone who was sexually abused as a child and experience the flashbacks,guilt,self loathing and obtrusive almost obsessive thoughts they probably wouldn't feel that way anymore.
 
2013-03-21 02:53:43 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: cgraves67: I believe that skinning alive and staking to an anthill is the proper and humane punishment in this instance.

that sounds similar to an Apache form of execution, however, for completeness...

10 most gruesome forms of execution...

/I do not advocate execution btw... just interjecting some historical facts.


Yeah,  I grew up on Louis L'Amour novels.
 
2013-03-21 02:53:54 PM

sjmcc13: Please, they guy from Hell is not sighing, (S)He knows knows that there is no need to start construction yet. Once they die the demons say  that they are behind on construction torturer, so they have to work building others "special places" until their own is done. Once they go to start work they are told this torture is for Hitler/Sadam/Bin Laden/random jerk that they would want to see suffer, so they put in extra hard work to punish him good, and make certain there is no way out. Once they are don, the demon kicks them in and says "You have been building your own special place, not enjoy being tortured and violated by your own handiwork for all eternity" possibly with an "I lied its what we demons do" in the conversation somewhere. and walks away.


There's already a place in hell for them. I'd say either 2nd circle(lust), 7th circle (violence), and there's an argument to be made for the 9th circle(treachery).

Personally, I hope they get the 9th. That's the worst of the worst. The region of hell called Ptolomaea is for those who betray a relationships with their guests.

/ I'm a big fan of literature; red Dante's Inferno in high school
 
2013-03-21 02:53:54 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

Then you're not really anti-death penalty, you just set the bar really high (or is that really low?).

Or I could be making a sick joke...

For the record: I'm against it.  Always.  But I'm not exactly heartbroken when it's used.


Well, I learned a new word today, so at least some good came out of it :-)
 
2013-03-21 02:54:24 PM
Take it easy Charlie. I've got an angle.
 
2013-03-21 02:54:56 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...



I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.
 
2013-03-21 02:55:14 PM

kiwimoogle84: THEN DRAWN AND QUARTERED.


I've read up on that.  I could get behind this.
 
2013-03-21 02:56:48 PM

leevis: Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-21 02:56:50 PM
I would love for a "brain scientist" to dissect the organ, or otherwise study it, so that he or she could explain to me how someone could get off on imagining sexual situations with infants.

What kind of wiring CAUSES that?????
 
2013-03-21 02:56:58 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: cgraves67: I believe that skinning alive and staking to an anthill is the proper and humane punishment in this instance.

that sounds similar to an Apache form of execution, however, for completeness...

10 most gruesome forms of execution...

/I do not advocate execution btw... just interjecting some historical facts.


EXECUTION PORN THREAD!!!1!
 
2013-03-21 02:57:18 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Obligatory:

[cdn1.screenrant.com image 400x275]


Presumably, the new place in Hell will be located adjacent to the place reserved for individuals who talk in the theater.
 
2013-03-21 02:57:40 PM

xanadian: kiwimoogle84: THEN DRAWN AND QUARTERED.

I've read up on that.  I could get behind this.


Awesome way to kill people, in my opinion. Although I kind of like the idea of a red-hot pike shoved up their arses and they burn to death from the inside out as their own weight impales them further and further, inch by inch... Let's just say there's a lot of people who deserve the most miserable death imaginable, and I think these two fit the bill.
 
2013-03-21 02:58:16 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Mitch Taylor's Bro:

If the urban legends about what happens to child molesters in prison are true, a lifetime in general population would be sufficient.

Yeah, I know, but I really want this:  I don't want to assist in paying for their incarceration for several years, but I'll pony up for some honey and a couple of hollowed out logs.

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism


Sounds like the perfect time to invest in shares of HNEY and HLGS.
 
2013-03-21 02:58:49 PM

Lady Indica: Can you believe she's actually out now. Sheesh.


Seriously...

I can't even remember where exactly I first heard of that particular story (I'm no expert on Canadian criminal cases) but in one fell swoop I read up a bunch on it and then spent the rest of that day curled up in the fetal position and mumbling to myself. It's just that farked up.
 
2013-03-21 02:58:58 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


Yeah, where are the Goa'uld when you need them?  They perfected that technique of torture centuries ago.
 
2013-03-21 02:59:25 PM

whither_apophis: A decent example of vertical integration right there.


LMAO, considering this blurb from some weird company he apparently works for:

"Bébars Baslan
A tenacious problem-solver skilled at integrating diverse systems and processes, and developing rapid solutions in meeting business challenges..."

http://www.infinitelykreative.com/BebarsBaslan.html

And his own website:
http://www.baslan.com/
 
2013-03-21 02:59:54 PM
I don't think that anyone can argue that rehabilitation is possible for offenders of this caliber. Proof of guilt should carry an instant death sentence.
 
2013-03-21 03:00:20 PM

Killer Cars: Not the same thing, but a "youngish" couple going in together on such a disgusting plan kinda reminds me of this


And now I'm going to have nightmares about my little sister.

there is a special place reserved for them already, it is called general population.

/should not have clicked either of the links.
 
2013-03-21 03:00:55 PM
ok, this is a fake article intended to test my opposition to the death penalty, right?
 
2013-03-21 03:01:21 PM

youmightberight: I'd be ok with them cutting untill there was nothing left while pumping in adrenaline and blood expanders/whole blood as a means of lethal punishment for these people.

And tape that - to discourage any copycats.


Come on, man, there's always a shortage of whole blood for non-pedophiles who need it. Couldn't you just recycle theirs or something?
 
2013-03-21 03:02:06 PM
Remember:

media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-21 03:02:14 PM
Fortunately, really bad ideas are often coupled with really bad competency in planning and execution.
 
2013-03-21 03:02:37 PM
leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.


Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.
 
2013-03-21 03:04:23 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


People don't plan for something like that unless they intend on carrying it out. I'd rather have them apprehended before yet another kid has to deal with the lifelong consequences of "doing". I'm quite sure anyone who was molested as a child would agree.
 
2013-03-21 03:04:24 PM

Ambivalence: I_Am_Weasel: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

I'm anti-death penalty too, but mostly because I believe it lets them off easy.

Put these people in general population.  Let them live each day in constant fear.

Amen to that. The worst thing you can do to a person is take away their freedom and any hope of ever getting it back.  But it's not as gratifying as blowing off their genitalia and watching them bleed to death in agony, I will admit that.


i know people like to say this, that death is letting them off easy... but, that is not often the case if you talk to people on death row.  for example, dostoevksy.  check out notes from the house of the dead (book about prison in siberia in the 19th century).

/ for those who don't know, the tsar contrived a mock execution of dostoevksy to teach him a lesson.  dostoevksy did not know it was a mock execution... so he stands before the firing squad, expecting execution.  then, like some miracle of imperial clemency, a horse rider shows up with a decree to send them to siberian work camps.  well, he writes a lot about this, about the death sentence.  and it's very clear to this guy, who went through it, that death is infinitely worse than a lifetime in prison.
 
2013-03-21 03:05:53 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wait a sec.  If they were going to let a little girl have sex with a drugged up little boy, then that little boy just got incredibly lucky, right?  I mean, as long as the little girl was hot, of course.  What if it was two drugged up girls going at each other?  That's just awesome, right?  As long as it's not an older boy sleeping with a younger girl,  I don't see what the problem is...


/surprised you haven't gotten any bites yet for this one.
 
2013-03-21 03:06:02 PM
They probably won't go to this place.
 
2013-03-21 03:06:22 PM
Oh  I  think that flaying is the way to go!  Just take small strips of skin off special places over a mater of weeks, with antibiotics to keep them healthy and alive and in agony!
 
2013-03-21 03:06:35 PM

Oldiron_79: leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.

Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.


You stab yourself on the inside of the upper right thigh. It's the most major artery in your body other than the aorta. Dead in seconds.
 
2013-03-21 03:06:53 PM
Their lawyers had no comment.
In fairness, it's hard to comment while throwing up in your mouth.
 
2013-03-21 03:07:33 PM
shoot'em
 
2013-03-21 03:07:36 PM

Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"


I've never heard anyone say that.
 
2013-03-21 03:07:59 PM
Sad to say this is far from unusual.  Sickos like this are all about getting themselves placed in positions of trust where they have access to, and authority over, children.  Often they go to considerable lengths to get placement in jobs or volunteer positions as sports coaches, youth counselors, in schools, in day cares, and so on.  The difference here is only one of degree.

I'm glad they got caught before they were able to harm any children.

I'm not going to touch the debate on what their punishment should be, although, if they're found guilty, the only way they should ever leave prison walls is feet-first.
 
2013-03-21 03:08:31 PM

jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!

Yes it is.  Diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  It's the same thing as a Benadryl.

Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.

*themoreyouknow.jpg*


Not quite, Dramamine is Dimenhydrinate which breaks down in the body to roughtly 50/50 Diphenhydramine and Chlorotheophylline. The Chlorotheophylline is a stimulant to offset the drowsiness of the diphenhydramine while maintaining it's antiemetic properties.
 
2013-03-21 03:09:19 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

Then you're not really anti-death penalty, you just set the bar really high (or is that really low?).

If the urban legends about what happens to child molesters in prison are true, a lifetime in general population would be sufficient. Just make sure they can never harm a child--ever. If they live in fear of physical harm from their fellow inmates for the rest of their lives, oh well.


I don't think it's a urban legend, I think it is true.  I had a talk one time with a cop who told me that in jail and prison, the staff can't announce what someone is in prison for because inmates have been known to further punish those who committed crimes sex crimes against children.
 
2013-03-21 03:10:18 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


Seriously, right?  They don't give out Nobel Prizes for planned chemistry.

i202.photobucket.com .

DNRTFA.  Having a bad enough day as it is.
 
2013-03-21 03:10:43 PM
I remember seeing a nature program a while back, where they had a camera inside a weasel's nest. She had a whole pile of babies in there and one night she went out to feed.

A male weasel found the nest, entered it, raped all the baby girl weasels and bit and mutilated the genitals of all the boy baby weasels. Then he left.

So, basically, this guy has not evolved higher than a weasel.

/weasel
 
2013-03-21 03:11:22 PM

pute kisses like a man: i know people like to say this, that death is letting them off easy... but, that is not often the case if you talk to people on death row. for example, dostoevksy. check out notes from the house of the dead (book about prison in siberia in the 19th century).


While I'm pro death penalty, I've always thought perhaps a decent middleground would be exclusion from any society.  If someone is convicted and given the death penalty, instead of actually executing them, we fly an airplane out over the Pacific Ocean a thousand miles or so and then when the pilot sees an uninhabited island, make them parachute out.

Pro-death penalty people get the peace of thinking they don't stand a chance at surviving on their own.  Anti-death penalty people get the peace of knowing we didn't actively kill them.
 
2013-03-21 03:11:44 PM
Holy farking shiat, that made me gasp. The evil in people's hearts and minds never cease to amaze me, but geeze, making me audibly gasp? That's nuts. I'm a psychology major who's "thing" is being able to figure people out. When I see people I see glass. I can see right through them, and tell what they're about. But this... this I'm left speechless.
 
2013-03-21 03:11:51 PM

leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.


You know, it's a really bad day when your dick gets nailed to a log and it's still not the worst thing that's going to happen to you that day.
 
2013-03-21 03:12:00 PM

yeegrek: Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?

Seriously, right?  They don't give out Nobel Prizes for planned chemistry.

[i202.photobucket.com image 512x384] .

DNRTFA.  Having a bad enough day as it is.


Does someone need a hug?
 
2013-03-21 03:12:07 PM
Eaten alive by hungry bears might be a good deterrent for those who think kiddy diddling is ok.
 
2013-03-21 03:15:16 PM

lennavan: pute kisses like a man: i know people like to say this, that death is letting them off easy... but, that is not often the case if you talk to people on death row. for example, dostoevksy. check out notes from the house of the dead (book about prison in siberia in the 19th century).

While I'm pro death penalty, I've always thought perhaps a decent middleground would be exclusion from any society.  If someone is convicted and given the death penalty, instead of actually executing them, we fly an airplane out over the Pacific Ocean a thousand miles or so and then when the pilot sees an uninhabited island, make them parachute out.

Pro-death penalty people get the peace of thinking they don't stand a chance at surviving on their own.  Anti-death penalty people get the peace of knowing we didn't actively kill them.


See, and I always considered this- If you're sentenced to life in prison, you're given the option of euthanasia. Many men would rather die than rot in prison for 50 years. So they get an out by choice, justice is served, and us taxpayers save 50 years of electricity and food and salaries for the guards to watch him. Always said that would be the first thing I'd implement if I ran the world. Anti- death penalty people can't get mad because he was sentenced to die in prison anyway, he just chose to speed it up, and pro- death penalty people can be satisfied that justice was done. And we save GAZILLIONS in taxes for prisons.
 
2013-03-21 03:15:57 PM
lennavan: pute kisses like a man: i know people like to say this, that death is letting them off easy... but, that is not often the case if you talk to people on death row. for example, dostoevksy. check out notes from the house of the dead (book about prison in siberia in the 19th century).

While I'm pro death penalty, I've always thought perhaps a decent middleground would be exclusion from any society.  If someone is convicted and given the death penalty, instead of actually executing them, we fly an airplane out over the Pacific Ocean a thousand miles or so and then when the pilot sees an uninhabited island, make them parachute out.

Pro-death penalty people get the peace of thinking they don't stand a chance at surviving on their own.  Anti-death penalty people get the peace of knowing we didn't actively kill them.


Well they can be eaten alive by coconut crabs after they are too weak to fend them off from deyhydration of being on a desert island. Sounds like something Edgar Allan Poe level depraved. I like it!
 
2013-03-21 03:16:08 PM
The special place in Hell for these people would be:

Inflict the proper damage to create Locked-In Syndrome
Torch Optic nerves, Audial nerves, and Olfactory nerves
Insert feeding tube and catheter
Sew mouth shut

Leave alone for rest of natural life...

//I'd pay extra taxes to see that happen
 
2013-03-21 03:16:45 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism


Nice, but I'm still a fan of the Blood Eagle myself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Eagle


/traditionalist
 
2013-03-21 03:18:50 PM
All these torture fantasies are giving me a chubby.
 
2013-03-21 03:19:59 PM

BarkingUnicorn: mod3072: Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"

Who the hell says that? Do you hang around at NAMBLA conventions or something? Even the bleeding-heart Fark ultra-libs don't generally stick up for kiddy-diddlers.

Actually, I have seen such sentiments here.  It's single-issue morality, no different from "life is sacred from the moment of conception" or "a woman's body is hers alone." Every conflict with the single moral tenet is resolved in the tenet's favor.

Simplemindedness is not unique to liberalism or conservatism.


It's a case of you not reading what people write.  Nobody is saying people who hate child rapists are worse then child rapists.  We're simply pointing out that the bloodlust filled fantasies that get posted in such threads tend to make that person a monster as well.

God forbid someone stick up for the rule of law and punishments that don't violate the Constitution   And yes I hope these people spend the rest of their lives in prison.  The difference between you and me is that I view prison is the punishment.  I just don't have this animalistic desire to see them die in the slowest and painful way possible.  Humans have evolved past that and you are welcome to join us in modern times.
 
2013-03-21 03:23:46 PM

yeegrek: Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?

Seriously, right?  They don't give out Nobel Prizes for planned chemistry.


Right...

Go to Wal-Mart for your weekly grocery run and while you're there pick up some lye, bottle of ammonia, some iodine, a few boxes of matches, Drano, and brake fluid and see if you don't get any visitors inquiring about your plans.
 
2013-03-21 03:24:49 PM

rkiller1: At the risk of starting a flame war, these are still allegations, right? Not yet convicted? Cops, including the FBI, make mistakes, or so I've read on Fark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege


* yawn* Amateur.
 
2013-03-21 03:25:06 PM

Nilatir: The special place in Hell for these people would be:

Inflict the proper damage to create Locked-In Syndrome
Torch Optic nerves, Audial nerves, and Olfactory nerves
Insert feeding tube and catheter
Sew mouth shut,remove genitals.

Leave alone for rest of natural life...

//I'd pay extra taxes to see that happen


FTFY
 
2013-03-21 03:25:19 PM

Great Janitor: I don't think it's a urban legend, I think it is true. I had a talk one time with a cop who told me that in jail and prison, the staff can't announce what someone is in prison for because inmates have been known to further punish those who committed crimes sex crimes against children.


I don't see how anyone would presume it's a mere urban legend. Society within a prison environment might be a little skewed towards certain directions compared to the general society at-large, but not by that much. Hell, force a convicted sex offender to carry a placard/wear a billboard stating their crimes, particularly if they were against children. It would not take long for something to happen to them from an otherwise upstanding, non-criminal citizen.

People don't like child rapists. Period.
 
2013-03-21 03:26:54 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

Nice, but I'm still a fan of the Blood Eagle myself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Eagle


/traditionalist


Exactly the sort of thing I expect from illiterate pagans who spent long, dark winters drinking beer.  You know they spent countless hours coming up with gruesome ways to kill.
 
2013-03-21 03:27:36 PM
Dude is a photographer on model mayhem.
 
2013-03-21 03:29:19 PM

kiwimoogle84: umad: I don't see the problem. Kids are at the mercy of their raging hormones so of course they are going to be having sex. Just because they have more game and get more ass than you did at that age is no reason to throw down a cock-block.

I'm suddenly surrounded by puritans. What happened to Fark?

Oh, I was waiting for you to show up and shiat in the thread. It seems to be your specialty.


My apologies. I will stop posting jokes and start contributing as you have by posting my torture fantasies.
 
2013-03-21 03:29:58 PM

Ambivalence: I_Am_Weasel: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

I'm anti-death penalty too, but mostly because I believe it lets them off easy.

Put these people in general population.  Let them live each day in constant fear.

Amen to that. The worst thing you can do to a person is take away their freedom and any hope of ever getting it back.  But it's not as gratifying as blowing off their genitalia and watching them bleed to death in agony, I will admit that.


A couple of decades ago, a colleague related a story to me about when he was studying psychology at a Canadian university. He said they interviewed prisoners for a project, and an inmate stated that a sex abuser had one (1) of his arms tied into a knot - said it was good entertainment value.
 
2013-03-21 03:31:11 PM
Nilatir
The special place in Hell for these people would be:

Inflict the proper damage to create Locked-In Syndrome
Torch Optic nerves, Audial nerves, and Olfactory nerves
Insert feeding tube and catheter
Sew mouth shut

Leave alone for rest of natural life...

//I'd pay extra taxes to see that happen


You get off on that kind of thing do ya?
 
2013-03-21 03:33:35 PM
i.imgur.com

And now we cut live to the new POPE, where he affirms his belief that gays adopting children is CHILD ABUSE.
 
2013-03-21 03:33:49 PM

Lionel Mandrake: RoyFokker'sGhost: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

Nice, but I'm still a fan of the Blood Eagle myself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Eagle


/traditionalist

Exactly the sort of thing I expect from illiterate pagans who spent long, dark winters drinking beer.  You know they spent countless hours coming up with gruesome ways to kill.


Skol!  :)
 
2013-03-21 03:33:53 PM

Okieboy: Nilatir
The special place in Hell for these people would be:

Inflict the proper damage to create Locked-In Syndrome
Torch Optic nerves, Audial nerves, and Olfactory nerves
Insert feeding tube and catheter
Sew mouth shut

Leave alone for rest of natural life...

//I'd pay extra taxes to see that happen

You get off on that kind of thing do ya?


Only protecting the western border!

//snark
 
2013-03-21 03:34:14 PM

umad: I don't see the problem. Kids are at the mercy of their raging hormones so of course they are going to be having sex. Just because they have more game and get more ass than you did at that age is no reason to throw down a cock-block.

I'm suddenly surrounded by puritans. What happened to Fark?


bananascoop.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-21 03:34:19 PM
I don't really see any deterrence-effect from executing these two, given the effectiveness of torture as a deterrent back in the lawless days of old. People will just resort to more extreme measures not to get caught. That's kind of the problem with punishment.

And torturing them seems to me like saying "Sure, dehumanizing another human being is okay." Isn't the point that they were about to torture other people? What exactly is the net benefit of torturing them?

I'm always astonished at how reading about this sort of thing gives me the heebie-jeebies now that I have kids of my own, but I'm also kind of taken aback by the weird vibe of sadism and lack-of-empathy in this thread. I mean, sadism and lack-of-empathy is kind of the problem here.
 
2013-03-21 03:34:26 PM
Is it okay to fap to this
 
2013-03-21 03:34:28 PM
So, Obama's thugs are shutting down another small business?
 
2013-03-21 03:34:44 PM

Nilatir: The special place in Hell for these people would be:

Inflict the proper damage to create Locked-In Syndrome
Torch Optic nerves, Audial nerves, and Olfactory nerves
Insert feeding tube and catheter
Sew mouth shut

Leave alone for rest of natural life...

//I'd pay extra taxes to see that happen


Meh.  I could still communicate.  Modulate my breath using Morse code.

My wife gets annoyed when I sniff "CQ CQ CQ".

Incoming communication would be Morse via touching my skin.
 
2013-03-21 03:35:00 PM
Mommy should stay home and raise jr? what?
 
2013-03-21 03:35:45 PM

Oldiron_79: leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.

Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.



You could also try a technique used by the Nazis and Soviets. Take a long, narrow piece of glass and stick it up the piss hole like a catheter, then break it. That was general torture, though, not necessarily for child molesters.
 
2013-03-21 03:37:35 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Conspiring is doing.


And that is why our judicial system is farked.
 
2013-03-21 03:38:45 PM
leevis: Oldiron_79: leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.

Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.


You could also try a technique used by the Nazis and Soviets. Take a long, narrow piece of glass and stick it up the piss hole like a catheter, then break it. That was general torture, though, not necessarily for child molesters.


A glass urethra sound you say... Well I guess it would be fun till they broke it.
 
2013-03-21 03:40:25 PM

kiwimoogle84: Oldiron_79: leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.

Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.

You stab yourself on the inside of the upper right thigh. It's the most major artery in your body other than the aorta. Dead in seconds.


Why not just use the knife to pry out the nail holding your dick to the log?  Seems to me that would be the logical course of action.

Failing that, slit your dick just enough to get off the nail.  Don't have to cut the whole think off.
 
2013-03-21 03:41:17 PM

Jacobin: Its a bad day to be against capital punishment


This week we had the story of the guy who raped a 10 year old girl and then stabbed her mother to death.  Next we got the story of the 17 year old who was sentenced to three life sentences for a school shooting where he killed three people and during the sentencing flipped off the families of his victims and reminded them that the finger used to kill their family members is the same one he uses to masturbate, and now this story.

It's been a bad week to be against capital punishment.
 
2013-03-21 03:41:48 PM

ristst: Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wait a sec.  If they were going to let a little girl have sex with a drugged up little boy, then that little boy just got incredibly lucky, right?  I mean, as long as the little girl was hot, of course.  What if it was two drugged up girls going at each other?  That's just awesome, right?  As long as it's not an older boy sleeping with a younger girl,  I don't see what the problem is...

/surprised you haven't gotten any bites yet for this one.


Too obvious/sarcastic.
 
2013-03-21 03:44:55 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

Then you're not really anti-death penalty, you just set the bar really high (or is that really low?).

Or I could be making a sick joke...

For the record: I'm against it.  Always.  But I'm not exactly heartbroken when it's used.


That's called 'tacit approval'. Welcome to the 'dark' side. Here we support abortion AND the death penalty. If one's worth killin' so's t'other.
 
2013-03-21 03:45:36 PM

Great Janitor: It's been a bad week to be against capital punishment.


No, it's the same as any other week since anti-death penalty people rely more on reason than emotion, compared to pro capital punishmenters
 
2013-03-21 03:45:46 PM

umad: kiwimoogle84: umad: I don't see the problem. Kids are at the mercy of their raging hormones so of course they are going to be having sex. Just because they have more game and get more ass than you did at that age is no reason to throw down a cock-block.

I'm suddenly surrounded by puritans. What happened to Fark?

Oh, I was waiting for you to show up and shiat in the thread. It seems to be your specialty.

My apologies. I will stop posting jokes and start contributing as you have by posting my torture fantasies.


Hey, it's the hot topic right now.
 
2013-03-21 03:46:25 PM

kiwimoogle84: lennavan: pute kisses like a man: i know people like to say this, that death is letting them off easy... but, that is not often the case if you talk to people on death row. for example, dostoevksy. check out notes from the house of the dead (book about prison in siberia in the 19th century).

While I'm pro death penalty, I've always thought perhaps a decent middleground would be exclusion from any society.  If someone is convicted and given the death penalty, instead of actually executing them, we fly an airplane out over the Pacific Ocean a thousand miles or so and then when the pilot sees an uninhabited island, make them parachute out.

Pro-death penalty people get the peace of thinking they don't stand a chance at surviving on their own.  Anti-death penalty people get the peace of knowing we didn't actively kill them.

See, and I always considered this- If you're sentenced to life in prison, you're given the option of euthanasia. Many men would rather die than rot in prison for 50 years. So they get an out by choice, justice is served, and us taxpayers save 50 years of electricity and food and salaries for the guards to watch him. Always said that would be the first thing I'd implement if I ran the world. Anti- death penalty people can't get mad because he was sentenced to die in prison anyway, he just chose to speed it up, and pro- death penalty people can be satisfied that justice was done. And we save GAZILLIONS in taxes for prisons.


It would never fly unless the private prison industry were completely eliminated or got to change the state an exorbitant fee for the euthanasia. I mean, I whole heartedly approve, I'm just saying...
 
2013-03-21 03:48:40 PM

dittybopper: kiwimoogle84: Oldiron_79: leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.

Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.

You stab yourself on the inside of the upper right thigh. It's the most major artery in your body other than the aorta. Dead in seconds.

Why not just use the knife to pry out the nail holding your dick to the log?  Seems to me that would be the logical course of action.

Failing that, slit your dick just enough to get off the nail.  Don't have to cut the whole think off.


That's assuming there's only one nail. Personally, I'd nail it all the way up- so that he wouldn't have time to pry out said nails before burning.

I guess that's just me though. I have a close family member who was molested as a child and I have nothing but hatred and vengeance for anyone that sick.
 
2013-03-21 03:48:56 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


scaphism!  holy hell in a hand basket.  Torture is never acceptable, under any circumstance.  Your moral compass needs checked.
 
2013-03-21 03:49:14 PM

rkiller1: At the risk of starting a flame war, these are still allegations, right? Not yet convicted? Cops, including the FBI, make mistakes, or so I've read on Fark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege


I know, man.  Too many of these stories end up like McMartin Preschool.

/Was just last week a woman spent how many years in jail for a heinous crime... she never committed?
 
2013-03-21 03:49:38 PM
What? These proud patriot entrepreneurs were just trying to start a small business. Damn authoritarian government overreach!

/I feel bad for making a joke in this thread, even a half-assed one
//mandatory sterilization for both of them
 
2013-03-21 03:51:23 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Great Janitor: It's been a bad week to be against capital punishment.

No, it's the same as any other week since anti-death penalty people rely more on reason than emotion, compared to pro capital punishmenters


I wouldn't really go so far as to say one group is more or less reasonable or emotional than the other.

Two people could give me emotional reasons for or against the death penalty, and two people can give pure logical reasons to be pro or anti death.  Saying that the anti-death penalty group is more reasonable or logical than the pro-death penalty group is like saying that Democrats rely more on reason than emotion when compared to Republicans.  It's not true.
 
2013-03-21 03:52:03 PM

I should be in the kitchen: What? These proud patriot entrepreneurs were just trying to start a small business. Damn authoritarian government overreach!

/I feel bad for making a joke in this thread, even a half-assed one
//mandatory sterilization for both of them and a one way ticket to Somalia.


FTFY
 
2013-03-21 03:53:02 PM

Great Janitor: Two people could give me emotional reasons for or against the death penalty, and two people can give pure logical reasons to be pro or anti death.


There are no logical reasons to be pro death penalty.  The only real reason is emotional -- vengeance.  Which by the way, is why I'm pro death penalty.
 
2013-03-21 03:54:15 PM

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 540x839]

And now we cut live to the new POPE, where he affirms his belief that gays adopting children is CHILD ABUSE.


I had to look at the top photo twice to figure out what was happening, since I didn't understand why they got a denial when the guy in the first photo was obviously holding onto his son............................................ wait, that's not intended to be his son?

Why make the second guy in the couple so much shorter?

Anyway, that set of pictures is bigoted against breeders, the religious, those who like to drink, but mostly the poor.
Besides, it's not like those who are against anti-homosexuals can't dredge up their own 'worst of the worst' pictorial presentation of homosexuals.

How about both sides try to reach across the aisle on this one, instead of demonizing each other?
 
2013-03-21 03:57:14 PM

Great Janitor: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Great Janitor: It's been a bad week to be against capital punishment.

No, it's the same as any other week since anti-death penalty people rely more on reason than emotion, compared to pro capital punishmenters

I wouldn't really go so far as to say one group is more or less reasonable or emotional than the other.

Two people could give me emotional reasons for or against the death penalty, and two people can give pure logical reasons to be pro or anti death.  Saying that the anti-death penalty group is more reasonable or logical than the pro-death penalty group is like saying that Democrats rely more on reason than emotion when compared to Republicans.  It's not true.


In this case it is true, and I do not refer to any individual advocates of either side, but on average.
 
2013-03-21 03:57:24 PM

Magorn: Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?

it's called "Conspiracy"  as in "We know what you are planning so we don't have to wait until you actually do it to charge you"  The threshold for consipiracy is to enter into a plan or scheme to commit an illegal act, and then take at least one overt step in furtherance of the plan.  So in this case, it would be enough if they articulated this plan and then bought a shiat-load of dramamine, or applied for a day care license


I don't understand why they didn't just wait until they raped a few of the kids to arrest them. Then we'd know for sure they meant it.
 
2013-03-21 03:57:58 PM

sjmcc13: Please, they guy from Hell is not sighing, (S)He knows knows that there is no need to start construction yet. Once they die the demons say  that they are behind on construction torturer, so they have to work building others "special places" until their own is done. Once they go to start work they are told this torture is for Hitler/Sadam/Bin Laden/random jerk that they would want to see suffer, so they put in extra hard work to punish him good, and make certain there is no way out. Once they are don, the demon kicks them in and says "You have been building your own special place, not enjoy being tortured and violated by your own handiwork for all eternity" possibly with an "I lied its what we demons do" in the conversation somewhere. and walks away.


Ask your doctor if Clozaril is right for you
 
2013-03-21 04:02:47 PM

lennavan: The only real reason is emotional -- vengeance


I like being able to sleep at night knowing that in no uncertain terms, the assbag that did something so heinous to deserve execution won't be tippy toeing into my bedroom. It's peace of mind.
Not emotion
not vengence.
just logic.
I want to sleep with out fear.

So is it fear driven?
Perhaps.
But if you may justifiably kill if you fear for your life,
then it's grounded in law.
And the logic is valid.
 
2013-03-21 04:02:52 PM

dittybopper: kiwimoogle84: Oldiron_79: leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.

Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.

You stab yourself on the inside of the upper right thigh. It's the most major artery in your body other than the aorta. Dead in seconds.

Why not just use the knife to pry out the nail holding your dick to the log?  Seems to me that would be the logical course of action.

Failing that, slit your dick just enough to get off the nail.  Don't have to cut the whole think off.


I'm having trouble believing this one anyway.  A log that big wouldn't burn well enough to make this work as planned.
 
2013-03-21 04:04:32 PM

Oldiron_79: Well they can be eaten alive by coconut crabs after they are too weak to fend them off from deyhydration of being on a desert island. Sounds like something Edgar Allan Poe level depraved. I like it!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyra_Atoll
 
2013-03-21 04:07:38 PM

hobnail: dittybopper: kiwimoogle84: Oldiron_79: leevis: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


I heard about a colonial-era punishment for child molesters several years ago. The guy would sit naked on the middle of a log and have his dick NAILED to it. Each end of the log would be set on fire and he would be handed a knife. His choice, burn to death or cut it off and get away. I don't know what the equivalent for women would be.

Make it a very dull and rusty knife just to make things more interesting.

If I had those options for some reason I think I'd try cutting my own throat with the knife rather than burning to death or self castration.

You stab yourself on the inside of the upper right thigh. It's the most major artery in your body other than the aorta. Dead in seconds.

Why not just use the knife to pry out the nail holding your dick to the log?  Seems to me that would be the logical course of action.

Failing that, slit your dick just enough to get off the nail.  Don't have to cut the whole think off.

I'm having trouble believing this one anyway.  A log that big wouldn't burn well enough to make this work as planned.


I don't know if it's true or not, it was mentioned in a book I read. I've never tried looking it up, it might be an urban legend-type thing.
 
2013-03-21 04:08:31 PM

Lionel Mandrake: RoyFokker'sGhost: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

Nice, but I'm still a fan of the Blood Eagle myself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Eagle


/traditionalist

Exactly the sort of thing I expect from illiterate pagans who spent long, dark winters drinking beer.  You know they spent countless hours coming up with gruesome ways to kill.


The enlightened Christians have them beat by a long shot.
 
2013-03-21 04:10:05 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


Yes you do. It's called "Conspiracy to Commit" X...
 
2013-03-21 04:13:41 PM
As screwed up as our system of justice is, it is enough for me to know that if they are convicted after a fair
trial they will be put into the general prison population.

While I am not anti-capital punishment, I do believe it should be reserved for the most heinous of crimes
(first degree pre-meditated murder, primarily), purely as punishment not deterrent.

I do not condone torture or excessively cruel and unusual punishments, even for reprobates such as these
people are alleged to be.  To my mind, to do so makes me little better than they are, and as imperfect as I
am, I know for a fact that I am better than they are.
 
2013-03-21 04:15:22 PM

vudukungfu: Not emotion
not vengence.
just logic.
I want to sleep with out fear.


Fear is an emotion.
 
2013-03-21 04:17:18 PM
And they were a gay couple right?

Because I have been assured by many straight people that only the gays do stuff like this. Its why they can't get married.
 
2013-03-21 04:19:14 PM

vudukungfu: Oldiron_79: Well they can be eaten alive by coconut crabs after they are too weak to fend them off from deyhydration of being on a desert island. Sounds like something Edgar Allan Poe level depraved. I like it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyra_Atoll


The only reason why Stearns was acquitted of murdering the idle rich couple was because she's a female.
(As for the murdered couple, any couple who can claim they 'remotely' manage their business and
can take a year away from life with no contact with anyone aren't really managing their own business.)
 
2013-03-21 04:19:49 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


Yes, we do arrest people for planning ...

Ever hear of "Conspiracy to Commit"? It mostly applies when someone is caught planning to kill someone or commit a felony.

And you planning to kill a criminal *if* they invade your home, that isn't Conspiracy to Commit, since what you are planning isn't murder.

If, however, you were planning to kill the next person to knock on your door, *THEN* you'd be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder.
 
2013-03-21 04:22:04 PM

dittybopper: Take it easy Charlie. I've got an angle.


I've been waiting for a Hanover Fiste reference.
 
2013-03-21 04:23:05 PM
Thanks Obama.

Another small business destroyed by government regulation before it even starts.
 
2013-03-21 04:24:20 PM

DjangoStonereaver: I do not condone torture or excessively cruel and unusual punishments, even for reprobates such as these
people are alleged to be. To my mind, to do so makes me little better than they are, and as imperfect as I
am, I know for a fact that I am better than they are.



Good man.

You get it.
 
2013-03-21 04:25:10 PM

Evil Mackerel: I should be in the kitchen: What? These proud patriot entrepreneurs were just trying to start a small business. Damn authoritarian government overreach!

/I feel bad for making a joke in this thread, even a half-assed one
//mandatory sterilization for both of them and a one way ticket to Somalia.

FTFY


I like your style.
 
2013-03-21 04:25:42 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: cgraves67: I believe that skinning alive and staking to an anthill is the proper and humane punishment in this instance.

that sounds similar to an Apache form of execution, however, for completeness...

10 most gruesome forms of execution...

/I do not advocate execution btw... just interjecting some historical facts.



My god, why did I read that.  So much for dinner and sleep tonight.
 
2013-03-21 04:27:49 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here...


Eh, you kind of are.
 
2013-03-21 04:28:04 PM

ltdanman44: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

scaphism!  holy hell in a hand basket.  Torture is never acceptable, under any circumstance.  Your moral compass needs checked.


Do you take everything you read on FARK seriously?

I suggest you don't read FARK.
 
2013-03-21 04:28:50 PM

A Terrible Human: Great Janitor: In before those who say that you wanting them to be beaten and raped in prison is worse than what they were planning to do...

If those people could live one day as someone who was sexually abused as a child and experience the flashbacks,guilt,self loathing and obtrusive almost obsessive thoughts they probably wouldn't feel that way anymore.


Pretty sure I read that most abusers were abused themselves.  Vicious circle and all that.
 
2013-03-21 04:29:14 PM
"Trust me, all what I'm doing, nothing is going to be, no memories, nothing."

I bet this is what most pedos think
 
2013-03-21 04:29:16 PM
Am I in before:

1) Bleeding heart liberals screaming, "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!!!!", and
2) idiot Republitards who can't grasp tax money being put to good use like the FBI?

Oh. Well then. Carry on.
 
2013-03-21 04:30:12 PM

Peter von Nostrand: And this is why I thank FSM everyday for my mother in law and never having to put my kids in daycare. We will never be able to pay her enough for being able to watch them


Most abuse is done by family. I'm sorry.
 
2013-03-21 04:32:29 PM

vudukungfu: Oldiron_79: Well they can be eaten alive by coconut crabs after they are too weak to fend them off from deyhydration of being on a desert island. Sounds like something Edgar Allan Poe level depraved. I like it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyra_Atoll


Ladyfingers they taste like ladyfingers
 
2013-03-21 04:36:43 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses?  Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history.


Not necessarily.  But if your going to put your child in day care put them in a proper day care with staff, offices, administration.  Do not put them in a family day care with an overworked under qualified mother and her kiddy fiddler partner.
 
2013-03-21 04:37:16 PM

dittybopper: Nilatir: The special place in Hell for these people would be:

Inflict the proper damage to create Locked-In Syndrome
Torch Optic nerves, Audial nerves, and Olfactory nerves
Insert feeding tube and catheter
Sew mouth shut

Leave alone for rest of natural life...

//I'd pay extra taxes to see that happen

Meh.  I could still communicate.  Modulate my breath using Morse code.

My wife gets annoyed when I sniff "CQ CQ CQ".

Incoming communication would be Morse via touching my skin.


You are truly an enigma.
 
2013-03-21 04:38:39 PM
Nurglitch:

em·pa·thy/ˈɛm/ Show Spelled [em-puh-thee] Show IPA
noun 1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another. Sorry, but I really don't want to feel empathetic for these two. leevis: You could also try a technique used by the Nazis and Soviets. Take a long, narrow piece of glass and stick it up the piss hole like a catheter, then break it. That was general torture, though, not necessarily for child molesters.I thought that was used as a treatment for Gonorrhea.
 
2013-03-21 04:39:27 PM

flamingboard: Peter von Nostrand: And this is why I thank FSM everyday for my mother in law and never having to put my kids in daycare. We will never be able to pay her enough for being able to watch them

Most abuse is done by family. I'm sorry.


Yeah, but if Mom didn't abuse her kids, it's unlikely that she'll do it to the grandkids. That kind of behavior tends to establish itself earlier in life than that. There'd be signs.

My father- he had a temper on him. I'd never let him watch my kids without me around because one too many messes and it's not a spanking, it's a belt, and welts, and that's unforgivable. Thank god Mom saw the signs early and divorced him. I'm all for spanking but there's a line between discipline and abuse.

My mother- gentle as you can be, raised us sternly but fairly. I'd trust her to raise my kids perfectly. She'd never do anything to harm them or scar them. Ever.
 
2013-03-21 04:40:00 PM
Wow, all my formatting got lost. Weird.
 
2013-03-21 04:49:30 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wait a sec.  If they were going to let a little girl have sex with a drugged up little boy, then that little boy just got incredibly lucky, right?  I mean, as long as the little girl was hot, of course.  What if it was two drugged up girls going at each other?  That's just awesome, right?  As long as it's not an older boy sleeping with a younger girl,  I don't see what the problem is...


I see you've been to the NFL cheerleader already today.  It's amazing how many disgusting farkers out there have no problem with women having sex with minors half (or in the case 1/3) their age because they're disgusting perves that have never touched a boob (I can only assume).
 
2013-03-21 04:49:35 PM
Did not click. Will not click. Don't want to know.

I'm glad there's an agency to handle this (thanks FBI), but I'm not sure how those guys can sleep at night. Being a human garbage collector is bound to leave a psychic stench on you.
 
2013-03-21 04:50:08 PM

spiderpaz: Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wait a sec.  If they were going to let a little girl have sex with a drugged up little boy, then that little boy just got incredibly lucky, right?  I mean, as long as the little girl was hot, of course.  What if it was two drugged up girls going at each other?  That's just awesome, right?  As long as it's not an older boy sleeping with a younger girl,  I don't see what the problem is...

I see you've been to the NFL cheerleader thread already today.  It's amazing how many disgusting farkers out there have no problem with women having sex with minors half (or in the case 1/3) their age because they're disgusting perves that have never touched a boob (I can only assume).



FTFM
 
2013-03-21 04:57:12 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses?  Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history.


Background checks for LEGITIMATE day cares, yes. I would never do an in-home, one- or two-person situation. We found the best place we could, recommended by as many people we knew and trusted, and made sure they have an "open door" policy, so that the parents can waltz in anytime. And we do.
 
2013-03-21 04:57:43 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: cgraves67: I believe that skinning alive and staking to an anthill is the proper and humane punishment in this instance.

that sounds similar to an Apache form of execution, however, for completeness...

10 most gruesome forms of execution...

/I do not advocate execution btw... just interjecting some historical facts.


Wow. When the Brazen Bull is number 10 you know there's going to be some crazy methods below.
 
2013-03-21 04:59:33 PM
Headline tl; dr
 
2013-03-21 05:00:56 PM
Hopefully there will be a good selection of pineapples.
 
2013-03-21 05:05:04 PM
Dude's name made me think of this.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-21 05:08:24 PM

Nurglitch: I'm always astonished at how reading about this sort of thing gives me the heebie-jeebies now that I have kids of my own, but I'm also kind of taken aback by the weird vibe of sadism and lack-of-empathy in this thread. I mean, sadism and lack-of-empathy is kind of the problem here.


I find it impossible to have a shred of empathy for any rapist, or anyone planning to rape.

Lock them up for life, with no chance to ever, ever be free again. That is more than satisfactory as far as I am concerned.
 
2013-03-21 05:08:39 PM
Never gonna understand this shiat.
 
2013-03-21 05:09:51 PM

DjangoStonereaver: As screwed up as our system of justice is, it is enough for me to know that if they are convicted after a fair trial they will be put into the general prison population.

I do not condone torture or excessively cruel and unusual punishments, even for reprobates such as these
people are alleged to be.


These two statements are in contradiction.

To my mind, to do so makes me little better than they are, and as imperfect as I am, I know for a fact that I am better than they are.

Not by much if you think letting them be brutalized by other prisoners is not torture.
 
2013-03-21 05:13:35 PM
Am I the only one left in this country that still likes to wait until people are convicted before I cry that the most severe punishment we can think of is bestowed upon them?  These people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Yeah, if they are indeed proven guilty, lock em up and throw away the key, but for now we should withhold our fury.
 
2013-03-21 05:23:55 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


Check out this case, and you will want to make another exception.  I'm not a right-winger, but this guy gives the full description without it turning into a really long blog.

http://rightinaleftworld.blogspot.com/2009/08/brianna-lopez-abused-in - life-caged-in.html">http://rightinaleftworld.blogspot.com/2009/08/bri anna-lopez-abused-in- life-caged-in.html
 
2013-03-21 05:28:25 PM

Twigz221: Am I the only one left in this country that still likes to wait until people are convicted before I cry that the most severe punishment we can think of is bestowed upon them?  These people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Yeah, if they are indeed proven guilty, lock em up and throw away the key, but for now we should withhold our fury.


media.comicvine.com

The accused are presumed guilty until proven innocent in the United States, particularly in the public eye.
/I am presumed guilty of hotlinking the above image
 
2013-03-21 05:34:20 PM

vernonFL: [www.bsomusic.org image 300x352]

RIP Babar


3.bp.blogspot.com
Moooooon Riiiiiiiver....
 
2013-03-21 05:35:44 PM

lennavan: pute kisses like a man: i know people like to say this, that death is letting them off easy... but, that is not often the case if you talk to people on death row. for example, dostoevksy. check out notes from the house of the dead (book about prison in siberia in the 19th century).

While I'm pro death penalty, I've always thought perhaps a decent middleground would be exclusion from any society.  If someone is convicted and given the death penalty, instead of actually executing them, we fly an airplane out over the Pacific Ocean a thousand miles or so and then when the pilot sees an uninhabited island, make them parachute out.

Pro-death penalty people get the peace of thinking they don't stand a chance at surviving on their own.  Anti-death penalty people get the peace of knowing we didn't actively kill them.


The first time they tried that with Napoleon Bonaparte it didn't work out too well. The second time the poison fixed it

Still have to admire his brilliance
 
2013-03-21 05:46:00 PM
 
2013-03-21 05:48:00 PM
Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people here who will read about someone planning some sick torture, then come here to plan the sick torture they would like to see performed on the criminal? Some of the crap in this thread is approaching the sick shiat in TFA, and it's being imagined by folks who I'm sure consider themselves to be sane and moral.
 
2013-03-21 05:49:21 PM

Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...


Yep, ^this^ 100 times.
 
2013-03-21 05:56:32 PM

pute kisses like a man: Ambivalence: I_Am_Weasel: Lionel Mandrake: One word: scaphism

I'm anti-death penalty, but I'm making an exception.

I guess we could wait until just before they die, revive them, let them regain their strength, then do it again...

I'm anti-death penalty too, but mostly because I believe it lets them off easy.

Put these people in general population.  Let them live each day in constant fear.

Amen to that. The worst thing you can do to a person is take away their freedom and any hope of ever getting it back.  But it's not as gratifying as blowing off their genitalia and watching them bleed to death in agony, I will admit that.

i know people like to say this, that death is letting them off easy... but, that is not often the case if you talk to people on death row.  for example, dostoevksy.  check out notes from the house of the dead (book about prison in siberia in the 19th century).

/ for those who don't know, the tsar contrived a mock execution of dostoevksy to teach him a lesson.  dostoevksy did not know it was a mock execution... so he stands before the firing squad, expecting execution.  then, like some miracle of imperial clemency, a horse rider shows up with a decree to send them to siberian work camps.  well, he writes a lot about this, about the death sentence.  and it's very clear to this guy, who went through it, that death is infinitely worse than a lifetime in prison.


The death penalty isn't a punishment for the prisoner.  It's a clear declaration that we, as a species, refuse to share a planet with the convicted.  Nothing more, nothing less.
 
2013-03-21 05:57:24 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people here who will read about someone planning some sick torture, then come here to plan the sick torture they would like to see performed on the criminal? Some of the crap in this thread is approaching the sick shiat in TFA, and it's being imagined by folks who I'm sure consider themselves to be sane and moral.


i257.photobucket.com
images.inquisitr.com
i581.photobucket.com
images.cheezburger.com
 
2013-03-21 06:01:03 PM
Noticeably F.A.T.:

Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people here who will read about someone planning some sick torture, then come here to plan the sick torture they would like to see performed on the criminal? Some of the crap in this thread is approaching the sick shiat in TFA, and it's being imagined by folks who I'm sure consider themselves to be sane and moral.

img.photobucket.com

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-21 06:01:48 PM
No need to administer the death penalty or some inhumane torture. These guys, assuming they're guilty as charged, probably are too mentally deficient for correction, but lengthening the suffering for no reason other than bloodlust accomplishes nothing. I mean, what's the point of a really nasty punishment if they're going to be dead anyway at the end of it? To make an example of them? More like show how barbaric our society can be if we let it.
 
2013-03-21 06:02:58 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people here who will read about someone planning some sick torture, then come here to plan the sick torture they would like to see performed on the criminal? Some of the crap in this thread is approaching the sick shiat in TFA, and it's being imagined by folks who I'm sure consider themselves to be sane and moral.


Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people who take what they read on FARK seriously?
 
2013-03-21 06:04:50 PM
Job creaters
 
2013-03-21 06:07:47 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people who take what they read on FARK seriously?


I think those people are the ones you need to be really scared of, Lionel.
 
2013-03-21 06:16:48 PM

Ed Grubermann: DjangoStonereaver: As screwed up as our system of justice is, it is enough for me to know that if they are convicted after a fair trial they will be put into the general prison population.

I do not condone torture or excessively cruel and unusual punishments, even for reprobates such as these
people are alleged to be.

These two statements are in contradiction.

To my mind, to do so makes me little better than they are, and as imperfect as I am, I know for a fact that I am better than they are.

Not by much if you think letting them be brutalized by other prisoners is not torture.


Then I'm sure you're as glad I am not in charge of the legal system as I am that you are not in charge of it.
 
2013-03-21 06:18:51 PM
Great Janitor: It's been a bad week to be against capital punishment.

The All-Powerful Atheismo: No, it's the same as any other week since anti-death penalty people rely more on reason than emotion, compared to pro capital punishmenters


I've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again. It does seem to be true that they don't get as worked up over heinous crimes as pro-death penalty types.
 
2013-03-21 06:24:34 PM

mantafirefly: No need to administer the death penalty or some inhumane torture. These guys, assuming they're guilty as charged, probably are too mentally deficient for correction, but lengthening the suffering for no reason other than bloodlust accomplishes nothing. I mean, what's the point of a really nasty punishment if they're going to be dead anyway at the end of it? To make an example of them? More like show how barbaric our society can be if we let it.


Severe punishments are imposed to assure others who are considering such crimes that there will be a significant cost to those crimes. The imposition of such costs are object lessons to potential offenders.
 
2013-03-21 06:28:38 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wait a sec.  If they were going to let a little girl have sex with a drugged up little boy, then that little boy just got incredibly lucky, right?  I mean, as long as the little girl was hot, of course.  What if it was two drugged up girls going at each other?  That's just awesome, right?  As long as it's not an older boy sleeping with a younger girl,  I don't see what the problem is...


umm.  LUCKY?  children don't have sexual drives.  there i said it.
 
2013-03-21 06:29:11 PM

JungleBoogie: Severe punishments are imposed to assure others who are considering such crimes that there will be a significant cost to those crimes. The imposition of such costs are object lessons to potential offenders.


Except for the fact that it doesn't. Ex: The Traitor's Death in England. There were still assassins, murderers, traitors, and people seeking the throne.

Torture for the sake of punishment went out of vogue in the Middle Ages.
 
2013-03-21 06:35:37 PM

hardinparamedic: JungleBoogie: Severe punishments are imposed to assure others who are considering such crimes that there will be a significant cost to those crimes. The imposition of such costs are object lessons to potential offenders.

Except for the fact that it doesn't. Ex: The Traitor's Death in England. There were still assassins, murderers, traitors, and people seeking the throne.


Not everyone will be deterred, certainly. But many will be. And that's the goal.

Thought experiment: Do people respond to rewards and penalties? If they didn't, they would be equally as inclined to stick their hand in a running blender as they would be to eat a candy bar.


Torture for the sake of punishment went out of vogue in the Middle Ages.
 
2013-03-21 06:44:54 PM
dittybopper:

My wife gets annoyed when I sniff "CQ CQ CQ".

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-21 06:46:31 PM

hardinparamedic: JungleBoogie: Severe punishments are imposed to assure others who are considering such crimes that there will be a significant cost to those crimes. The imposition of such costs are object lessons to potential offenders.

Except for the fact that it doesn't. Ex: The Traitor's Death in England. There were still assassins, murderers, traitors, and people seeking the throne.

Torture for the sake of punishment went out of vogue in the Middle Ages.


According to Mother Theresa, suffering is good for the soul.

/I don't support torturing to death
//shoot them and toss their bodies in a garbage heap
 
2013-03-21 06:47:47 PM
I didn't watch the video, couldn't and didn't want to at work. But here is another article with more details. Including photo of the loving Bebar.


http://gothamist.com/2013/03/21/awful_brooklyn_couple_arrested_for.p hp
 
2013-03-21 06:53:21 PM

hardinparamedic: JungleBoogie: Severe punishments are imposed to assure others who are considering such crimes that there will be a significant cost to those crimes. The imposition of such costs are object lessons to potential offenders.

Except for the fact that it doesn't. Ex: The Traitor's Death in England. There were still assassins, murderers, traitors, and people seeking the throne.

Torture for the sake of punishment went out of vogue in the Middle Ages.


True but killing the traitors & whatnot meant they couldn't do it again.  It was the ultimate deterrent for that particular traitor, and I think mostly the point.  Repeat offenders for those sorts of crimes were rare:)  Those who conspired successfully were then able to mete out the same punishment to their enemies.

As for these two, try them & if they are found guilty, either life imprisonment which means their lives are spent in prison.  Or put them down quickly and cleanly like you would a rabid animal.


/ only in favor of the death penalty
 
2013-03-21 07:00:41 PM
To be fair, they DID plan on sedating them. I mean, that must count for something, right? They're practically Saints for going through aaaaaall that trouble just so that those kids wouldn't remember it!  Really you people need to just lighten up, clearly that young couple are down on their luck in this shiatty economy and needed the money, come on, JEEEZ, like those kids had anything better to do...

Wow, I just grossed myself out.

Those people should be raped and eaten by wild dogs.
 
2013-03-21 07:01:21 PM
...

Yeah, I don't even have anything to say to that. Well, OK, I guess I'll say I'm not exactly surprised every time one of these suppurating pustules of humanity is uncovered, just disgusted a little bit more by humanity in general.

And I honestly thought I was full up on disgust. But apparently not.
 
2013-03-21 07:02:56 PM

Alphakronik: I'm not sticking up for child rapists here, but I do have one point of contention.


You don't arrest people for planning.  You arrest and prosecute for doing.

Hell, I plan on killing anyone who enters my home illegally, but you don't see me getting arrested for pre-meditated murder do you?

Sorry, I hate rapists as much as the rest of you, but arresting for planning is odd.

To all of you who take pride in stating you would love to 'hunt a pedophile', where were you when there was a convention of them in Italy a couple of weeks ago?


I do not believe you are this stupid,so you must be trolling.
 
2013-03-21 07:04:26 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people who take what they read on FARK seriously?


Oh, I'm not taking anything seriously, at least not in the sense that I think anyone here has the guts to follow through on anything. I still think it takes a sick mind to even think up some of the "punishments" you see here, and I still find it odd that the people coming up with the torture don't seem to see irony in raging against sickness by coming up with sick shiat.
 
2013-03-21 07:11:43 PM

Oldiron_79: HalfOffOffer: [imgc.allpostersimages.com image 473x355]

Maybe it's time to start doing this again

Hanging? that's way too humane. I say they should dig up zombie Torquemada and go full inquisition on their asses.


Not necessarily hanging... but public execution.  Seems to me that if people like this were ended in public it might be more of a deterrent to others.  Heads on stakes seems effective... gives the general ambience of 'we don't put up with no sh*t'
 
2013-03-21 07:21:25 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people here who will read about someone planning some sick torture, then come here to plan the sick torture they would like to see performed on the criminal? Some of the crap in this thread is approaching the sick shiat in TFA, and it's being imagined by folks who I'm sure consider themselves to be sane and moral.


You have a good point, but I regret nothing. I wouldn't be doing it to innocent humans. They'd have it coming.
 
2013-03-21 07:22:01 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Random Anonymous Blackmail: BraveNewCheneyWorld


Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses? Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history

One would think but it is not like you go from shoplifting to embezzlement and off to kiddy diddler.

Don't you need a spotless record to be a bank teller?  Why should this be any less stringent?   Checking a criminal record isn't about the specific crimes, but rather the character of the individual.


To work in a bank, you need no convictions for crimes involving dishonesty.  Child molesters are welcome to apply.
 
2013-03-21 07:25:27 PM

Insatiable Jesus: whither_apophis: A decent example of vertical integration right there.

LMAO, considering this blurb from some weird company he apparently works for:

"Bébars Baslan
A tenacious problem-solver skilled at integrating diverse systems and processes, and developing rapid solutions in meeting business challenges..."

http://www.infinitelykreative.com/BebarsBaslan.html

And his own website:
http://www.baslan.com/


Oh, I love his last update:

Dear Visitor,

Welcome back to baslan.com.

We hope that you will pardon our offline time as we're updating the site. Please note that we are going to be adding much more content about our services in the next few days.

Thank you,
Bébars Baslan

I think the MSM has you covered, pal.
 
2013-03-21 07:27:00 PM
Damn, people are getting creative in this thread!

Kinda puts me off my popcorn.
 
2013-03-21 07:30:31 PM

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 540x839]

And now we cut live to the new POPE, where he affirms his belief that gays adopting children is CHILD ABUSE.


i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-21 07:58:12 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Lionel Mandrake: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people who take what they read on FARK seriously?

Oh, I'm not taking anything seriously, at least not in the sense that I think anyone here has the guts to follow through on anything. I still think it takes a sick mind to even think up some of the "punishments" you see here, and I still find it odd that the people coming up with the torture don't seem to see irony in raging against sickness by coming up with sick shiat.


So, in otherwords, a moral panic?
 
2013-03-21 08:02:01 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Random Anonymous Blackmail: BraveNewCheneyWorld


Isn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses? Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal history

One would think but it is not like you go from shoplifting to embezzlement and off to kiddy diddler.

Don't you need a spotless record to be a bank teller?  Why should this be any less stringent?   Checking a criminal record isn't about the specific crimes, but rather the character of the individual.



Even though I am sure this is perma-buried, this is untrue. I am the sysadmin for a bank, with not only a juvenile record (really, really, REALLY bad shiat too), but a prior felony indictment (beaten in court because it wasn't just, but whatever), and I have had zero issues. The biggest hurdle I have faced is a drug test, and even that wasn't bad. My record never came in to question.
 
2013-03-21 08:05:03 PM
wtf is wrong with people? babies? toddlers? so farking gross and disgusting.  who could do this to a child?

you can halfway understand if it's a developed 14 y/o cuz that attraction is natural cuz they are almost adult, but a toddler? f-ing unreal.
 
2013-03-21 08:30:21 PM
I saw this on the news last night and maybe it is because I cannot even comprehend how somebody would think of such a thing, but I am hoping that this is some sort of sick set-up or something.

What I am saying is that it boggles my mind that a seemingly normal young couple would resort to this kind of pure perversion and - not only do they seem somewhat intelligent in their non-perv lives - but they manage to plan so poorly that they get caught before they have a chance to do anything.

Gross.  Instead of thinking of all the terrible things I would do to these people, I am going to fantasize that this was all a cruel, sick, setup or crazy-assed misunderstanding.  If not, I weep for humankind.
 
2013-03-21 08:31:57 PM
www.roflcat.com
 
2013-03-21 08:49:01 PM
Ahh, it's the daily "I will show you how much I hate sex-perverts by wishing the most perverse consequential sexual acts I can envision upon them" thread.
 
2013-03-21 09:08:48 PM

BSABSVR: Ahh, it's the daily "I will show you how much I hate sex-perverts by wishing the most perverse consequential sexual acts I can envision upon them" thread.


Or the "Have the the costs they were going to impose / did impose on harmless victims, imposed on the offenders instead" thread. Turnabout is fair play, after all.
 
2013-03-21 09:19:58 PM

Nurglitch: I don't really see any deterrence-effect from executing these two, given the effectiveness of torture as a deterrent back in the lawless days of old. People will just resort to more extreme measures not to get caught. That's kind of the problem with punishment.

And torturing them seems to me like saying "Sure, dehumanizing another human being is okay." Isn't the point that they were about to torture other people? What exactly is the net benefit of torturing them?

I'm always astonished at how reading about this sort of thing gives me the heebie-jeebies now that I have kids of my own, but I'm also kind of taken aback by the weird vibe of sadism and lack-of-empathy in this thread. I mean, sadism and lack-of-empathy is kind of the problem here.


There's a difference between crime and punishment. Some folks, perhaps like yourself as you're intimating in the bolded section above, can't see the difference.

The difference is: The crime is the involuntary cost the offender imposes on the victim. The punishment is a cost imposed, perhaps commensurate, imposed on the offender, to offset any benefit the offender received from the crime.
 
2013-03-21 09:22:29 PM

Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"


Who in the old hickory fark says that?
 
2013-03-21 09:29:56 PM

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 540x839]

And now we cut live to the new POPE, where he affirms his belief that gays adopting children is CHILD ABUSE.


What the fark does this shiat have to do with anything in this thread?
 
2013-03-21 09:46:00 PM
Which is why I chose to work nights so our kids wouldnt have to go to a babysitter.  I dont understand those parents who readily send their kids off to a stranger for up to 10 hours a day.  Often times the math doesnt even justify a sitter versus working part time in two income households.
 
2013-03-21 10:38:48 PM
Was that wrong? Should we not have done that?
 
2013-03-21 10:41:29 PM

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 540x839]

And now we cut live to the new POPE, where he affirms his belief that gays adopting children is CHILD ABUSE.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-21 11:09:29 PM
OK, I admit it: I just do not understand "child pornography."  Small humans are goddamn annoying even at the best of times... who in the hell could find them the least bit arousing?  Let alone risk going to PMITA prison for it?  Adults are a lot more fun!
 
2013-03-21 11:17:50 PM

iheartscotch: / I'm a big fan of literature; red Dante's Inferno in high school shcool


Sorry, pet peeve.
 
2013-03-21 11:38:54 PM
Ha! Just more proof the US Government doesn't like small business owners or job creators.
 
2013-03-21 11:47:15 PM

Frederick: Which is why I chose to work nights so our kids wouldnt have to go to a babysitter.  I dont understand those parents who readily send their kids off to a stranger for up to 10 hours a day.  Often times the math doesnt even justify a sitter versus working part time in two income households.


And yet there are plenty of people who, upon seeing a "FREE DAYCARE!" banner, would happily drop their kids off with no questions asked. Not because they don't care about their kids. Just that they're working poor, and "free" is what's affordable.
 
2013-03-22 12:48:19 AM

TheTurtle: OK, I admit it: I just do not understand "child pornography."  Small humans are goddamn annoying even at the best of times... who in the hell could find them the least bit arousing?  Let alone risk going to PMITA prison for it?  Adults are a lot more fun!


One thing I find puzzling: what's the business model?

I mean, I can understand narcotics. Demand is so high and the market restricted to the point that you can take a plant that grows, refine it, and sell it for 10,000% mark up. For that kind of money you'd betray your friends, your family, hell, you'd overthrow the government. I understand illegal arms deals. But is there some sort of large wealthy underground pedophile community willing to pay top dollar for the kind of porn that would get you thrown in jail in virtually any country on earth? I mean, videos taken in countries where the age of consent is low, maybe. But that still makes the subjects teenagers. I realize people will make a dishonest buck any way they can, but producing kiddie porn seems to be just one step above snuff films in terms of "what will bring the heat on you, with little profit to show for it." Obviously there must be profit in it, but damned if I can understand it.
 
2013-03-22 01:46:28 AM
its stull like this that we need the death penalty for
/also, Bebars lol
 
2013-03-22 03:37:29 AM

JungleBoogie: I've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again.


Then you're seriously an idiot, because no anti death penalty advocate would ever want anything but life in prison for such an offender.  And yeah, they hate the crimes just as much as anyone else, jackass.
 
2013-03-22 07:30:50 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: JungleBoogie: I've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again.

Then you're seriously an idiot, because no anti death penalty advocate would ever want anything but life in prison for such an offender.  And yeah, they hate the crimes just as much as anyone else, jackass.




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2013-03-22 07:35:26 AM

nburghmatt: hardinparamedic: jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!

Yes it is.  Diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  It's the same thing as a Benadryl.

Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.

*themoreyouknow.jpg*

Dimenhydrinate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimenhydrinate

also, dimenhydrinate is about half as effective as diphenhydramine by weight, so that was wrong too.


But it has twice the side effects, so he is even?
 
2013-03-22 10:05:19 AM

JungleBoogie: Great Janitor: It's been a bad week to be against capital punishment.

The All-Powerful Atheismo: No, it's the same as any other week since anti-death penalty people rely more on reason than emotion, compared to pro capital punishmenters

I've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again. It does seem to be true that they don't get as worked up over heinous crimes as pro-death penalty types.


How do you know that the person who is called 'the offender' is the one who actually did the deed?  There's a problem when 'justice' becomes 'punish anyone just as long as someone is punished'.
 
2013-03-22 10:26:40 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: and preventing the crime again.


Not to mention that every study out there shows that the threat of the death penalty does nothing to deter other offenders from committing the same offense. Heck, countries  without the death penalty tend to have lower overall violent crime rates than countries who do.

It's about revenge, not prevention. Anyone who tells you differently is deluded or lying.
 
2013-03-22 10:49:28 AM
JungleBoogie: I've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again.

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Then you're seriously an idiot, because no anti death penalty advocate would ever want anything but life in prison for such an offender.  And yeah, they hate the crimes just as much as anyone else, jackass.


You should check out a PBS Frontline documentary called "Angel on Death Row" about Sister Helen Prejean and other spiritual advisors to capital murderers. Even the transcript is compelling. To death penalty opponents, it's an inspirational look at spiritual advisors to condemned prisoners. To death penalty advocates, it's an informative look at the core of the anti-death penalty movement.

The movie "Dead Man Walking" is based on the murderer in that documentary, Robert Lee Willie. The movie ignores the murder of Faith Hathaway and focuses on the stoic, Christ-like figure of Willie/Poncelet. In talking to death penalty opponents over the years, usually they'll give lip service to the victim, but when impassioned, they will frequently drop the facade.

Prejean herself, and other spiritual advisors speak of the murderers in glowing terms, and when asked about the hideous brutality of the murders, respond with bland platitudes.

Also - life in prison for the offender? The anti-death penalty movement here was positively ecstatic over the 21 year sentence for Anders Breivik in a comfortable dorm room. I remember reading an article in The Economist magazine where the writer praised the "principled" punishment (towards the bottom of the page). Certain Norwegian prison authorities were proud of the sentence and vowed to be "humane." The core of the anti-death penalty movement is opposed to life without parole as well.

I stand by my observation. It is an accurate description of reality. The core of the death penalty has an offender-centric focus, rather than a victim-centric focus, which is the orientation of the pro-death penalty movement.
 
2013-03-22 10:57:46 AM
ExperianScaresCthulhu: and preventing the crime again.

CheatCommando: Not to mention that every study out there shows that the threat of the death penalty does nothing to deter other offenders from committing the same offense.


Well, actual execution is much better at preventing recidivism than incarceration. And the death penalty almost certainly does deter. I mean, if incarceration deters, why wouldn't the death penalty?

Heck, countries  without the death penalty tend to have lower overall violent crime rates than countries who do.

The countries with the world's 1st, 2nd and 3rd largest economies all have the death penalty. Certainly, everyone accepts that there are other factors beside the death penalty which influence the murder rate, which leads to different rates in different locales. But if you want to see how the death penalty affects the murder rates, here is 56 years worth of data in the US.

It's about revenge, not prevention. Anyone who tells you differently is deluded or lying.

I certainly don't have any problems with vengeance. But I prefer retribution, all in all, so that the penalties remain commensurate. I think retribution best serves justice, better than vengeance usually.
 
2013-03-22 04:29:32 PM

jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!
Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!

Yes it is.  Diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  It's the same thing as a Benadryl.

Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.

*themoreyouknow.jpg*


Really!?

I guess I better make sure my wife, who is terribly allergic to Benadryl, does not take any.
 
2013-03-22 06:52:29 PM

Fano: TheTurtle: OK, I admit it: I just do not understand "child pornography."  Small humans are goddamn annoying even at the best of times... who in the hell could find them the least bit arousing?  Let alone risk going to PMITA prison for it?  Adults are a lot more fun!

One thing I find puzzling: what's the business model?

I mean, I can understand narcotics. Demand is so high and the market restricted to the point that you can take a plant that grows, refine it, and sell it for 10,000% mark up. For that kind of money you'd betray your friends, your family, hell, you'd overthrow the government. I understand illegal arms deals. But is there some sort of large wealthy underground pedophile community willing to pay top dollar for the kind of porn that would get you thrown in jail in virtually any country on earth? I mean, videos taken in countries where the age of consent is low, maybe. But that still makes the subjects teenagers. I realize people will make a dishonest buck any way they can, but producing kiddie porn seems to be just one step above snuff films in terms of "what will bring the heat on you, with little profit to show for it." Obviously there must be profit in it, but damned if I can understand it.


Not all forms of compensation are monetary.  In this case, you have a couple pervos who have a very difficult to satisfy habit.  Most likely, they planned on making their product in hope that some other pervos would be willing to trade part of their own stashes for it.
 
2013-03-23 03:10:55 AM

JungleBoogie: ExperianScaresCthulhu: and preventing the crime again.

CheatCommando: Not to mention that every study out there shows that the threat of the death penalty does nothing to deter other offenders from committing the same offense.

Well, actual execution is much better at preventing recidivism than incarceration. And the death penalty almost certainly does deter. I mean, if incarceration deters, why wouldn't the death penalty?

Heck, countries  without the death penalty tend to have lower overall violent crime rates than countries who do.

The countries with the world's 1st, 2nd and 3rd largest economies all have the death penalty. Certainly, everyone accepts that there are other factors beside the death penalty which influence the murder rate, which leads to different rates in different locales. But if you want to see how the death penalty affects the murder rates, here is 56 years worth of data in the US.

It's about revenge, not prevention. Anyone who tells you differently is deluded or lying.

I certainly don't have any problems with vengeance. But I prefer retribution, all in all, so that the penalties remain commensurate. I think retribution best serves justice, better than vengeance usually.


Neither vengeance or retribution are about justice. They are about personal satisfaction. There's a reason that our justice system was designed to remain impartial and the accused were given inalienable rights in the constitution, you know.

/Pro-Death Penalty Reform.
//Death Penalty cases should be referred to the federal court systems, and any legal counsel involved in them should have to be certified to handle death penalty cases. The cost of executing an innocent man is too great.
 
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