Noticeably F.A.T.: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people here who will read about someone planning some sick torture, then come here to plan the sick torture they would like to see performed on the criminal? Some of the crap in this thread is approaching the sick shiat in TFA, and it's being imagined by folks who I'm sure consider themselves to be sane and moral.
BraveNewCheneyWorld: Random Anonymous Blackmail: BraveNewCheneyWorldIsn't there a background check on people who start daycare businesses? Someone who thinks like this has to have a criminal historyOne would think but it is not like you go from shoplifting to embezzlement and off to kiddy diddler.Don't you need a spotless record to be a bank teller? Why should this be any less stringent? Checking a criminal record isn't about the specific crimes, but rather the character of the individual.
Insatiable Jesus: whither_apophis: A decent example of vertical integration right there.LMAO, considering this blurb from some weird company he apparently works for:"Bébars BaslanA tenacious problem-solver skilled at integrating diverse systems and processes, and developing rapid solutions in meeting business challenges..."http://www.infinitelykreative.com/BebarsBaslan.htmlAnd his own website:http://www.baslan.com/
weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 540x839]And now we cut live to the new POPE, where he affirms his belief that gays adopting children is CHILD ABUSE.
Noticeably F.A.T.: Lionel Mandrake: Anyone else find it odd that there are a lot of people who take what they read on FARK seriously?Oh, I'm not taking anything seriously, at least not in the sense that I think anyone here has the guts to follow through on anything. I still think it takes a sick mind to even think up some of the "punishments" you see here, and I still find it odd that the people coming up with the torture don't seem to see irony in raging against sickness by coming up with sick shiat.
BSABSVR: Ahh, it's the daily "I will show you how much I hate sex-perverts by wishing the most perverse consequential sexual acts I can envision upon them" thread.
Nurglitch: I don't really see any deterrence-effect from executing these two, given the effectiveness of torture as a deterrent back in the lawless days of old. People will just resort to more extreme measures not to get caught. That's kind of the problem with punishment.And torturing them seems to me like saying "Sure, dehumanizing another human being is okay." Isn't the point that they were about to torture other people? What exactly is the net benefit of torturing them?I'm always astonished at how reading about this sort of thing gives me the heebie-jeebies now that I have kids of my own, but I'm also kind of taken aback by the weird vibe of sadism and lack-of-empathy in this thread. I mean, sadism and lack-of-empathy is kind of the problem here.
Captain Darling: In before "people who hate child rapists are worse than child rapists"
iheartscotch: / I'm a big fan of literature; red Dante's Inferno in high school shcool
Frederick: Which is why I chose to work nights so our kids wouldnt have to go to a babysitter. I dont understand those parents who readily send their kids off to a stranger for up to 10 hours a day. Often times the math doesnt even justify a sitter versus working part time in two income households.
TheTurtle: OK, I admit it: I just do not understand "child pornography." Small humans are goddamn annoying even at the best of times... who in the hell could find them the least bit arousing? Let alone risk going to PMITA prison for it? Adults are a lot more fun!
JungleBoogie: I've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again.
The All-Powerful Atheismo: JungleBoogie: I've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again.Then you're seriously an idiot, because no anti death penalty advocate would ever want anything but life in prison for such an offender. And yeah, they hate the crimes just as much as anyone else, jackass.
nburghmatt: hardinparamedic: jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!Yes it is. Diphenhydramine hydrochloride. It's the same thing as a Benadryl.Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.*themoreyouknow.jpg*Dimenhydrinate.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimenhydrinatealso, dimenhydrinate is about half as effective as diphenhydramine by weight, so that was wrong too.
JungleBoogie: Great Janitor: It's been a bad week to be against capital punishment.The All-Powerful Atheismo: No, it's the same as any other week since anti-death penalty people rely more on reason than emotion, compared to pro capital punishmentersI've noticed that anti-death penalty types tend to be first concerned with the welfare of the offender, rather than doing justice and preventing the crime again. It does seem to be true that they don't get as worked up over heinous crimes as pro-death penalty types.
ExperianScaresCthulhu: and preventing the crime again.
jbuist: Rev. Skarekroe: That's insane!Dramamine isn't an allergy medication!Yes it is. Diphenhydramine hydrochloride. It's the same thing as a Benadryl.Dramamine pills just contain twice the amount.*themoreyouknow.jpg*
Fano: TheTurtle: OK, I admit it: I just do not understand "child pornography." Small humans are goddamn annoying even at the best of times... who in the hell could find them the least bit arousing? Let alone risk going to PMITA prison for it? Adults are a lot more fun!One thing I find puzzling: what's the business model?I mean, I can understand narcotics. Demand is so high and the market restricted to the point that you can take a plant that grows, refine it, and sell it for 10,000% mark up. For that kind of money you'd betray your friends, your family, hell, you'd overthrow the government. I understand illegal arms deals. But is there some sort of large wealthy underground pedophile community willing to pay top dollar for the kind of porn that would get you thrown in jail in virtually any country on earth? I mean, videos taken in countries where the age of consent is low, maybe. But that still makes the subjects teenagers. I realize people will make a dishonest buck any way they can, but producing kiddie porn seems to be just one step above snuff films in terms of "what will bring the heat on you, with little profit to show for it." Obviously there must be profit in it, but damned if I can understand it.
JungleBoogie: ExperianScaresCthulhu: and preventing the crime again.CheatCommando: Not to mention that every study out there shows that the threat of the death penalty does nothing to deter other offenders from committing the same offense.Well, actual execution is much better at preventing recidivism than incarceration. And the death penalty almost certainly does deter. I mean, if incarceration deters, why wouldn't the death penalty?Heck, countries without the death penalty tend to have lower overall violent crime rates than countries who do.The countries with the world's 1st, 2nd and 3rd largest economies all have the death penalty. Certainly, everyone accepts that there are other factors beside the death penalty which influence the murder rate, which leads to different rates in different locales. But if you want to see how the death penalty affects the murder rates, here is 56 years worth of data in the US.It's about revenge, not prevention. Anyone who tells you differently is deluded or lying.I certainly don't have any problems with vengeance. But I prefer retribution, all in all, so that the penalties remain commensurate. I think retribution best serves justice, better than vengeance usually.
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