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(Washington Post)   The American Academy of Pediatrics says gay couples should be allowed to marry to help ensure the health and well-being of their children, citing research confirming that such kids tend to turn out FABULOUS   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 168
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2013-03-21 11:09:44 PM  

Biological Ali: DrewCurtisJr: Biological Ali: You need to articulate yourself more clearly. Earlier on, you seemed to be suggesting that there was something about the research which proved that the policy of "separate but equal" was "working pretty well".

What do you think the research is "proving"?

Before I answer your questions, I'd like to know exactly what you meant when you said this (in response to a person who said that "separate but equal" doesn't work):

Seem'd to be working pretty well, unless you think most of the gay parents raising kids in the "research" were legally married.

...because you seemed to be taking a specific stance regarding what you thought the research "seem'd" (sic) to show, but your subsequent posts didn't provide much in the way of clarification.


Just answer the question.
 
2013-03-21 11:40:32 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: Just answer the question.


I don't even know which "research" you're referring to, much less what your specific issue with it is. I can't carry on a conversation with you if I have no clue what you're saying.

Are you referring to the AAP's policy statement, or the studies that they're citing? In either case, you're better off having a bilingual friend read it and explain it to you in your native language. I don't think I could simplify things any further than the Washington Post already has without crucial information being lost in the process.
 
2013-03-22 12:50:08 AM  

Biological Ali: DrewCurtisJr: meat0918: We've tried "separate but equal".  Doesn't work.

Seem'd to be working pretty well

Not sure if serious.


Well, that's Poe's Law for you.
 
2013-03-22 01:11:51 AM  
Subby, same-sex couples don't make babies.
 
2013-03-22 01:22:04 AM  

Publikwerks: So..

[s21.postimg.org image 850x531]

Is better than

[images.fineartamerica.com image 850x566]


Off topic, but that's the Nubble Light. You from around here, sport?
 
2013-03-22 01:53:31 AM  

George Walker Bush: Biological Ali: Seriously? People are going to try and "debate" someone with the handle George Walker Bush? The only way he could make it any more obvious is if he changed his handle to The Guy Trolling the Thread Right Now.

And the troll appears! This is some Inception stuff right here...


Without the presence of constantly blaring horns, I'd have to say you're way, way off base.

i651.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-22 01:57:45 AM  

kutsuke: Subby, same-sex couples adopt babies.


FTFY
 
2013-03-22 02:38:23 AM  
j0ndas: Some of you may not have noticed the qualifiers "nurturing and stable" and "with children".  What they aren't mentioning is that gay couples rarely are stable, and research has shown that children need both a male and female parent for the proper balance of nurture and discipline. Children with two married parents of the opposite sex vastly outperform any other category. So while I agree that marriage is better than not marriage, I totally disagree with the premise that children should be placed with gays at all. But I knew this was coming - gays want to use marriage as a leverage to get children, and they're just coming at this from both sides to achieve their goals.
Did I mention, by the way, that the stats they're basing this on are probably from a few studies where they asked the parents to answer questions, not on any sort of quantifiable criteria, and that the sampling size is so small that the margin of error is quite large? Not to mention they selectively pick their subjects, as I stated above.


Almost Everybody Poops: Did you not read the article?  They said the kids are raised just as well as straight couples.  And I'd be curious to see this "research" you don't cite showing that straight couples vastly outperform same-sex couples.



j0ndas is a well-known liar.  He'll frequently make assertions that contradict the article, or something somebody posted evidence for earlier in the thread.  When confronted, he'll either simply ignore you or say he read it somewhere or "everybody knows" it to be true.  At best he might link to some right-wing blog.  He's done that in numerous other threads about homosexuality (which seems to be one of his main "hot button" issues).

The one that stuck out for me was his "research has shown that children need both a male and female parent for the proper balance of nurture and discipline," which is not only the opposite of factually correct but throws in a nice addition of sexism for good measure.  It's like killing two birds with one derp.
 
2013-03-22 02:38:44 AM  
I strongly suspect that heterosexual couples have produced the majority of gay people out there.
 
2013-03-22 04:17:10 AM  

Yes this is dog: Publikwerks: So..

[s21.postimg.org image 850x531]

Is better than

[images.fineartamerica.com image 850x566]

Off topic, but that's the Nubble Light. You from around here, sport?


I commented on that, too.  Nice to see someone else from this corner of NH.
 
2013-03-22 07:07:22 AM  
foster kid would have really enjoyed two parents.
Don't give a fark who they were as long as they aren't bad people
 
2013-03-22 08:17:39 AM  

RatMaster999: Yes this is dog: Publikwerks: So..

[s21.postimg.org image 850x531]

Is better than

[images.fineartamerica.com image 850x566]

Off topic, but that's the Nubble Light. You from around here, sport?

I commented on that, too.  Nice to see someone else from this corner of NH.


Yeah, I've had you farkied for a while now as being from around here. Ever since that dope set fire to the sub.
 
2013-03-22 10:26:50 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: doubled99: Any "study" that says homosexuals don't make good parents is bullshiat.

Any study that says homosexuals make good parents is equally bullshiat

I think it's more that a child will do better with two gay parents, in general, than one parent or no parent.


Well, no, it goes beyond that. It says the kids are no worse off than with heterosexual parents.

"Kids fare just as well in gay or straight families when they are nurturing and financially and emotionally stable, the academy says."
 
2013-03-22 01:29:05 PM  
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2013-03-22 01:29:44 PM  
Louis C.K. - "It doesn't have any effect on your life. What do you care?! People try to talk about it like it's a social issue. Like when you see someone stand up on a talk show and say, 'How am I supposed to explain to my children that two men are getting married?'... I dunno. It's your shiatty kid. You farkin' tell 'em. Why is that anyone else's problem? Two guys are in LOVE and they can't get married because you don't want to talk to your ugly child for five farkin' minutes?"

/oblig
 
2013-03-22 09:36:22 PM  
if they want to raise a kid,
just do it well...
if your child has questions down the line,
come up with some decent answers, you owe your child that.

But, if you get right down to it,
I'm on my 5th beer and honestly don't give a flying FARK...
 
2013-03-22 09:42:47 PM  

Biological Ali: I don't even know which "research" you're referring to, much less what your specific issue with it is


The same research you asked me about.

Just for the sake of hilarity, what exactly is it that you think the research mentioned in TFA demonstrates?

WTF do you think
 
fdr
2013-03-23 04:43:36 AM  

doubled99: Any "study" that says homosexuals don't make good parents is bullshiat.

Any study that says homosexuals make good parents is equally bullshiat


doublespeak
 
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