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(Journal News)   West Point employee up on federal charges for grand theft meatball   (lohud.com) divider line 40
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2013-03-21 12:00:31 PM
The entire article.......I read like this....

elzonkeyshow.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-21 12:01:04 PM
"Are you ready for some meatball!!!"
 
2013-03-21 12:04:29 PM
Meanwhile. Real criminals on Wall Street are given tax breaks.
 
2013-03-21 12:07:20 PM
Court papers do not specify the number of meatballs involved

I busted out laughing at work when I read that line.
 
2013-03-21 12:08:23 PM
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2013-03-21 12:09:10 PM
Perhaps Capt. Queeg should have incident investigated.

/Obsure?
 
2013-03-21 12:09:43 PM

ChipNASA: The entire article.......I read like this....

[elzonkeyshow.files.wordpress.com image 159x265]


Fark ... same here ...

No, no, no, no ... dog goes afuera ... AFUERA!
 
2013-03-21 12:11:42 PM
Asked why she had the meatballs, she said, "I throw them in the garbage."

i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-03-21 12:14:27 PM
www.zap2it.com
//Loves a woman in uniform, but was nowhere near that timezone that day.
 
2013-03-21 12:16:50 PM

pgh9fan: Perhaps Capt. Queeg should have incident investigated.

/Obsure?


To strawberry fans? No.

Mamma mia, that's a spicy meatball!

/More obscure?
 
2013-03-21 12:22:48 PM
Asked why she had the meatballs, she said, "I throw them in the garbage."

All the time?
 
2013-03-21 12:29:38 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

Official Army description: Balls, Meat, one each
 
2013-03-21 12:35:55 PM
28 years with the company down the tubes. There's more important things in life than a little meatballs, ya know.
 
2013-03-21 12:37:36 PM
Newburgh. Of course she's from Newburgh.
 
2013-03-21 12:41:08 PM

pgh9fan: Perhaps Capt. Queeg should have incident investigated.

/Obsure?


Would he fondle the meatballs?
 
2013-03-21 12:46:19 PM

mootmah: Newburgh. Of course she's from Newburgh.


woohoo!
 
2013-03-21 12:47:15 PM
Is the stupid tag for the federal charges or for the theft?  Food theft happens a lot and the bigger the mess-hall/buffet line/restaurant the more it happens.  She's up for federal charges because it is a federal building not a private business.
 
2013-03-21 12:52:40 PM

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Is the stupid tag for the federal charges or for the theft?  Food theft happens a lot and the bigger the mess-hall/buffet line/restaurant the more it happens.  She's up for federal charges because it is a federal building not a private business.


This.  It was an Army base.  A speeding ticket is a federal offense if you do it on base.
 
2013-03-21 12:57:31 PM
The first time she's stolen food from there?  Or the first time she's been caught?

Maybe she never buys groceries... just fills up the bag a few times a week?
 
2013-03-21 01:05:59 PM
My son went to West Point, class of 2010. It always amazed me how such opulence was surrounded by such poverty. And you know WP was there long before the local economies/populations. But then you see that surrounding almost every military base, abject poverty right outside the gates.
 
2013-03-21 01:06:21 PM

devildog123: IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Is the stupid tag for the federal charges or for the theft?  Food theft happens a lot and the bigger the mess-hall/buffet line/restaurant the more it happens.  She's up for federal charges because it is a federal building not a private business.

This.  It was an Army base.  A speeding ticket is a federal offense if you do it on base.


Ummm...yes and no. Yes, it's handled via an on base system. Accumulate more than 12 points in a year or 18 points in two years and your on base/on post driving privileges are revoked for one year. But tickets accrued on post generally never see the light of day in the civilian system unless they're for reckless driving, DUI, or that sort of thing--then they're tried in federal court, not civil (local traffic) court. Plead guilty, and JAG makes a recommendation, which may include anything from a fine to jail time.

Get caught using a cell phone without a hands-free device on base/post in some places and it's an automatic seven (first offense) to thirty (second offense) suspension of your on post driving privileges. While talking on a cell without a hands free device on civilian streets isn't legal most places, it's rarely enforced to this degree. My guess is that it's probably fairly well-enforced on the air base I live near because I have never seen anyone behind the wheel on base with a cell phone held up to their head--every airman I know has a hands-free in their car and uses it.
 
2013-03-21 01:08:39 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/air-force-academy-ars o n-suspect-is-a-civilian-contactor

I'll see your 'meatball theft' at a service academy and raise you a 'multiple counts of arson' at a service academy.
 
2013-03-21 01:12:51 PM
I'm sure she was stealing meatballs as part of a multi-million dollar black market scheme. Or, you know, probably because she was going to feed them to her family. A simple reprimand would have sufficed in this situation. A stern talking to would have prevented it from happening again.
 
2013-03-21 01:15:08 PM

sn68f: My son went to West Point, class of 2010. It always amazed me how such opulence was surrounded by such poverty. And you know WP was there long before the local economies/populations. But then you see that surrounding almost every military base, abject poverty right outside the gates.


It's been that way since armies have existed: where you have an army, you have "camp followers." People who provide... services of a nature that military commanders would prefer are not advertised, but will not openly object to so long as they don't negatively impact readiness, because they have a positive impact on overall morale. Additionally, you have people who set up just outside the gates whose sole purpose is to prey on soldiers. sailors, airman and marines because they're still under the mistaken and misguided impression that they make a lot of money (or, like the check-cashing places, know they don't, but don't care and keep them in debt for what little they do make).

Interestingly, some of those people (as many as 40% in some areas) living in that "abject poverty" are the lower-ranking servicemen and women themselves... who qualify for WIC, foodstamps, and other forms of aid because of how little money they do make and who don't qualify for on-post housing because they aren't high enough rank.
 
2013-03-21 01:18:19 PM
Could've been worse...

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2013-03-21 01:18:51 PM

Shvetz: I'm sure she was stealing meatballs as part of a multi-million dollar black market scheme. Or, you know, probably because she was going to feed them to her family. A simple reprimand would have sufficed in this situation. A stern talking to would have prevented it from happening again.


Don't mock. Soldiers do it. I know two supply specialists who did and got caught. MREs, chemlights, and other such items bring a lot of money on the black market.

But yes, for someone stealing a bag of meatballs to take home to feed their family, federal charges are farking ridiculous. Dock her pay $8, reprimand her, and forget it. It's not like we need a 21st century Jean Valjean.
 
2013-03-21 01:39:34 PM
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2013-03-21 01:42:49 PM

nburghmatt: mootmah: Newburgh. Of course she's from Newburgh.

woohoo!


Seconded.

/How did any of us 'Burgh apes learn to use the internet?
 
2013-03-21 01:44:57 PM

HiFiGuy: pgh9fan: Perhaps Capt. Queeg should have incident investigated.

/Obsure?

To strawberry fans? No.


Well... *I*'m done here...
 
2013-03-21 02:47:26 PM

Aigoo: sn68f: My son went to West Point, class of 2010. It always amazed me how such opulence was surrounded by such poverty. And you know WP was there long before the local economies/populations. But then you see that surrounding almost every military base, abject poverty right outside the gates.

It's been that way since armies have existed: where you have an army, you have "camp followers." People who provide... services of a nature that military commanders would prefer are not advertised, but will not openly object to so long as they don't negatively impact readiness, because they have a positive impact on overall morale. Additionally, you have people who set up just outside the gates whose sole purpose is to prey on soldiers. sailors, airman and marines because they're still under the mistaken and misguided impression that they make a lot of money (or, like the check-cashing places, know they don't, but don't care and keep them in debt for what little they do make).

Interestingly, some of those people (as many as 40% in some areas) living in that "abject poverty" are the lower-ranking servicemen and women themselves... who qualify for WIC, foodstamps, and other forms of aid because of how little money they do make and who don't qualify for on-post housing because they aren't high enough rank.


That's bullshait.  They qualify.  Plenty of E-1s through E-3 live on base.  The point is they don't have ENOUGH housing for them, so some have to live off.  They're stupid enough to get married and have kids at 18-19 on PFC/LCpl pay, they damn well deserve what they get.  I always agreed with General Krulak's opinion that E-4s and below should be kept from being married.  You'd save the DOD tens of millions, and you'd keep these kids from getting themselves into trouble in the first place.  The reason these kids get into financial trouble is because they are trying to raise families on paychecks that were designed for guys in the barracks and eating at the chow hall to be able to buy beer and XBox games.
 
2013-03-21 02:48:06 PM

HiFiGuy: Mamma mia, that's a spicy meatball!


HiFiGuy: pgh9fan: Perhaps Capt. Queeg should have incident investigated.

/Obsure?

To strawberry fans? No.

Mamma mia, that's a spicy meatball!

/More obscure?


No, not at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErgdUhZteqw
 
2013-03-21 04:25:36 PM

Strongbeerrules: pgh9fan: Perhaps Capt. Queeg should have incident investigated.

/Obsure?

Would he fondle the meatballs?


Did she steam over her own towline while fleeing with the meatballs?
 
2013-03-21 04:36:13 PM

eggrolls: nburghmatt: mootmah: Newburgh. Of course she's from Newburgh.

woohoo!

Seconded.

/How did any of us 'Burgh apes learn to use the internet?


As for me, I'm from New Windsor. Cornwall schools.
 
2013-03-21 05:02:58 PM

devildog123: Aigoo: sn68f: My son went to West Point, class of 2010. It always amazed me how such opulence was surrounded by such poverty. And you know WP was there long before the local economies/populations. But then you see that surrounding almost every military base, abject poverty right outside the gates.

It's been that way since armies have existed: where you have an army, you have "camp followers." People who provide... services of a nature that military commanders would prefer are not advertised, but will not openly object to so long as they don't negatively impact readiness, because they have a positive impact on overall morale. Additionally, you have people who set up just outside the gates whose sole purpose is to prey on soldiers. sailors, airman and marines because they're still under the mistaken and misguided impression that they make a lot of money (or, like the check-cashing places, know they don't, but don't care and keep them in debt for what little they do make).

Interestingly, some of those people (as many as 40% in some areas) living in that "abject poverty" are the lower-ranking servicemen and women themselves... who qualify for WIC, foodstamps, and other forms of aid because of how little money they do make and who don't qualify for on-post housing because they aren't high enough rank.

That's bullshait.  They qualify.  Plenty of E-1s through E-3 live on base.  The point is they don't have ENOUGH housing for them, so some have to live off.  They're stupid enough to get married and have kids at 18-19 on PFC/LCpl pay, they damn well deserve what they get.  I always agreed with General Krulak's opinion that E-4s and below should be kept from being married.  You'd save the DOD tens of millions, and you'd keep these kids from getting themselves into trouble in the first place.  The reason these kids get into financial trouble is because they are trying to raise families on paychecks that were designed for guys in the barracks and eating at the chow hall to b ...


Both wrong. Newburgh was founded before West Point, and was the site of the final headquarters of  General Washington & his staff at the end of the Revolution. West Point was a defensive position & fort along the river long before it was a school. Newburgh was an industrial and economic powerhouse, and a center for commerce along the Hudson River, for over 200 years. As highway trade supplanted river trade, and manufacturing moved first south and the outsourced abroad, the local economic infrastructure cratered, and has yet to recover. Be nice if the money put into keeping West Point an exemplar of military excess extended past its gates, though. Totally agree on the subject of lack of compensation for enlisted with families, too.
 
2013-03-21 05:14:36 PM

pgh9fan: Perhaps Capt. Queeg should have incident investigated.

/Obsure?


Have you scene my wax key?
 
2013-03-21 05:21:19 PM
If the food is anything like the Naval Academy's was when I was there, then she's been punished enough already.
 
2013-03-21 07:28:28 PM

mootmah: eggrolls: nburghmatt: mootmah: Newburgh. Of course she's from Newburgh.

woohoo!

Seconded.

/How did any of us 'Burgh apes learn to use the internet?

As for me, I'm from New Windsor. Cornwall schools.


ooh la la. ;-)
 
2013-03-21 10:07:59 PM

crab66: Meanwhile. Real criminals on Wall Street are given tax breaks.




Rule #1: Be rich
Rule #2 Don't be not rich
 
2013-03-22 01:38:20 AM
The meatballs in the Army,
   they say are mighty fine,
One rolled off the table,
   and killed a pal of mine.
 
2013-03-22 05:03:23 PM

Opeth1429: If the food is anything like the Naval Academy's was when I was there, then she's been punished enough already.



What was it you did not like? The Hamsters? Cannonballs? T'ain't no mo milk, Midshipman?

/1987
 
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