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(Mother Jones)   The Dallas Police Department has a government program that involves a dark truck stop and a never ending supply of sex workers that actually works   (motherjones.com) divider line 16
    More: Interesting, Dallas Police Department, sex workers, street prostitution, diversion program, ABT Associates  
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2013-03-21 01:16:17 PM
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Or, you know, they could legalize and regulate prostitution which has been shown to lower crime rates, increase tax revenue, and reduce the spread of STDs.  Of course, doing that doesn't give them the opportunity to tell these women how horrible they are for being prostitutes.  If it doesn't punish or demonize women, minorities, or the poor, then it's not much of a solution, right America?

Yes, this is a better solution than throwing them in jail, but only in the same way that telling your child that they're a terrible person and going to Hell for masturbating is better than beating them with a leather belt.
2013-03-21 01:14:43 PM
2 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: cops pick up women who they either kno.w to be prostitutes or who are soliciting sex and bring them to the lot behind McDonald's, where PDI offers women 45 days of live-in treatment, including trauma, substance abuse, and mental-health counseling, as well as help navigating social services, finding housing, and securing a job.

Sounds like mollycoddling criminal moochers to me.  They made their choice, let them live with it.  We shouldn't be giving them handouts.  Ayn Rand would not approve.

~this is what American "Christians" actually believe.


Bad article to bash Christians with sparky, church groups are providing food without proselytizing. Good community work all around. Everybody gets a gold star.
2013-03-21 12:08:38 PM
2 votes:
Now *that* is policing done right!  Not perfect, but a damn good start.
2013-03-21 07:16:11 PM
1 votes:

MisterRonbo: Carlo Spicy-Wiener: Or, you know, they could legalize and regulate prostitution which has been shown to lower crime rates, increase tax revenue, and reduce the spread of STDs.  Of course, doing that doesn't give them the opportunity to tell these women how horrible they are for being prostitutes.  If it doesn't punish or demonize women, minorities, or the poor, then it's not much of a solution, right America?

I hate to interrupt a man when he's on a good soapbox rant, but that wouldn't solve this problem.  Do you think the truck driver will drive miles out of his way to the legal brothel - if he can even park his rig there - and pay $40 or $50 for that legal beej?

Or will he continue to get the $10 beej from the crack whore waiting in the parking lot after he grabs a meal and a shower?

Will the crack whore decide to only work out of the legal brothel, and keep her shiat together enough to do so, or will she continue to offer the $10  beej in the truck stop parking lot?

While I agree legalization is helpful, you will still need this program.  And you need to start arresting the johns.  If a driver knew he faced a 30 day suspension of his commercial driver's license, he'd think twice.  Third strike, suspend it a year.  Reduce the demand.


Just wanted to make sure your sane comment doesn't get lost in the derp of the thread.  You are right on the money with this.  A pure legalization stance doesn't do it.  You still need diversion for the prostitutes and punishment of the johns who go outside the legal channels.
2013-03-21 03:43:24 PM
1 votes:
lennavan

If we legalized prostitution, prostitutes would become taxpayers.  Not only would it not cost us money, we'd make money.

I don't know what exactly there is to rehab here.  As a society we've decided you're allowed to have sex with random strangers, so that's okay.  So we're just rehabbing the taking of money bit?  Seems stupid.


Prostitutes like the ones targeted at a truck stop are often victims.  These aren't high-price call girls or Nevada brothels.  These girls often wouldn't chose to be prostitutes.  Instead they're forced into the life through drugs, trafficking, and other forms of control.  Legalizing prostitution wouldn't help them, it would just keep them out of jail for a few nights.  They'd still be kept abused and afraid on the fringe of society.  Meanwhile the "legalize everything" crowd pats itself on the back.
2013-03-21 03:15:11 PM
1 votes:

Carlo Spicy-Wiener: Or, you know, they could legalize and regulate prostitution which has been shown to lower crime rates, increase tax revenue, and reduce the spread of STDs.  Of course, doing that doesn't give them the opportunity to tell these women how horrible they are for being prostitutes.  If it doesn't punish or demonize women, minorities, or the poor, then it's not much of a solution, right America?


I hate to interrupt a man when he's on a good soapbox rant, but that wouldn't solve this problem.  Do you think the truck driver will drive miles out of his way to the legal brothel - if he can even park his rig there - and pay $40 or $50 for that legal beej?

Or will he continue to get the $10 beej from the crack whore waiting in the parking lot after he grabs a meal and a shower?

Will the crack whore decide to only work out of the legal brothel, and keep her shiat together enough to do so, or will she continue to offer the $10  beej in the truck stop parking lot?

While I agree legalization is helpful, you will still need this program.  And you need to start arresting the johns.  If a driver knew he faced a 30 day suspension of his commercial driver's license, he'd think twice.  Third strike, suspend it a year.  Reduce the demand.
2013-03-21 02:08:22 PM
1 votes:

A Dark Evil Omen: Sounds like a good program that should be copied across the country.


That's an excellent idea....which almost guarantees it won't happen.

There's a lot of money to be made in private prison industry.
2013-03-21 01:53:07 PM
1 votes:

Carlo Spicy-Wiener: Or, you know, they could legalize and regulate prostitution which has been shown to lower crime rates, increase tax revenue, and reduce the spread of STDs.  Of course, doing that doesn't give them the opportunity to tell these women how horrible they are for being prostitutes.  If it doesn't punish or demonize women, minorities, or the poor, then it's not much of a solution, right America?

Yes, this is a better solution than throwing them in jail, but only in the same way that telling your child that they're a terrible person and going to Hell for masturbating is better than beating them with a leather belt.


Here is the problem from what I can see.  There are essentially three options:

1.) status quo - obviously the worst for everyone involved and the most expensive, yet it is the most "popular" option politically
2.) forcing everyone into rehab - much better than the status quo and 1/4th the cost of continuing the status quo.  Probably even cheaper than that because of things like ER care and crime reduction.  Women involved at least have a fighting chance.
3.) regulated legalization - best for everyone, yet politically unpopular since it isn't "moral"

The majority of the right wing and about 30% of Democrats support 1, so the split vote on the other two options can't take hold on a large scale.  2 is easier to swallow than opening legal brothels and saves a bunch of money, but the second biggest group on the right are libertarians for 3.  If Dems try to run on either 2 or 3, they get called soft on crime.

So ultimately, we end up just pissing away shiatloads of money and making people live like they are in hell just because "criminals are bad guys, end of story."  Argh it's so frustrating
2013-03-21 01:49:52 PM
1 votes:
Sounds like a good program that should be copied across the country.
2013-03-21 01:29:54 PM
1 votes:

Hillbilly Jim: Lionel Mandrake: Hillbilly Jim: Lionel Mandrake: cops pick up women who they either kno.w to be prostitutes or who are soliciting sex and bring them to the lot behind McDonald's, where PDI offers women 45 days of live-in treatment, including trauma, substance abuse, and mental-health counseling, as well as help navigating social services, finding housing, and securing a job.

Sounds like mollycoddling criminal moochers to me.  They made their choice, let them live with it.  We shouldn't be giving them handouts.  Ayn Rand would not approve.

~this is what American "Christians" actually believe.

Bad article to bash Christians with sparky, church groups are providing food without proselytizing. Good community work all around. Everybody gets a gold star.

I'm bashing certain types of Christians, skippy.

I missed the word some or so-called in your response, looks like an awful wide net you're casting.


You'll get over it.
2013-03-21 01:17:43 PM
1 votes:
He arrested her, put her in a car, and drove her out to an empty lot behind a McDonald's near where I-45 hits I-20.

Sounds like the opening line of a serial killer novel
2013-03-21 01:15:17 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Are we sure this is the RIGHT Texas?


The big metropolitan areas of Texas are liberal islands in a sea of red derp.
2013-03-21 01:12:33 PM
1 votes:
Nein! I was told quite specifically by prominent FARKers that government is the PROBLEM and doesn't work.
2013-03-21 01:04:53 PM
1 votes:
Are we sure this is the RIGHT Texas?
2013-03-21 01:01:51 PM
1 votes:
$4500 to rehab or $18,000 to imprison per year... hmmm...  And which one has a good chance of lowering recidivism?

Good job, Dallas, Texas.
2013-03-21 12:17:48 PM
1 votes:
cops pick up women who they either know to be prostitutes or who are soliciting sex and bring them to the lot behind McDonald's, where PDI offers women 45 days of live-in treatment, including trauma, substance abuse, and mental-health counseling, as well as help navigating social services, finding housing, and securing a job.

Sounds like mollycoddling criminal moochers to me.  They made their choice, let them live with it.  We shouldn't be giving them handouts.  Ayn Rand would not approve.

~this is what American "Christians" actually believe.
 
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