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2013-03-21 05:25:04 PM  

verbivore: By the way, one crappy little nonprofit in Austin (emancipet.org) started by one overworked veterinarian (Dr. Ellen Jefferson) with one crappy little office has sterilized double the number of animals that PETA has, with their "fleet" of spayneutermatic flying tanks and $30 million annual budget. Fark PETA. They exist to make money for PETA, nothing more. They're not even good at performing the coverup story that they feed the gullible people that send them money every time they post a picture of a bunny in a mascara factory.


Only $1 million goes to spay/neuter.  Emancipet also apparently charges for most spay/neuter.  They only do 4000 free ones a year, which is less than half of what PETA does.  You're really off on a tangent here.
 
2013-03-21 05:42:02 PM  
verbivore  By the way, one crappy little nonprofit in Austin (emancipet.org) started by one overworked veterinarian (Dr. Ellen Jefferson) with one crappy little office has sterilized double the number of animals that PETA has, with their "fleet" of spayneutermatic flying tanks and $30 million annual budget.  Fark PETA. They exist to make money for PETA, nothing more. They're not even good at performing the coverup story that they feed the gullible people that send them money every time they post a picture of a bunny in a mascara factory.

I don't have the exact number, but I believe Emancipet has now spay/neutered 500,000+ animals.

And that same overworked veterinarian then went to Austin Pets Alive and built it into an organization that saved more than 7,000 animals last year with a budget of less than $2 million.  Dr. Ellen Jefferson has saved more animals that PETA ever will.

Fark PETA.
 
2013-03-21 05:42:08 PM  
Also, PETA supports and funds ALF and ELF. Two proven eco-terrorist groups responsible for many actions that resulted in ecological damage, destruction of property, and murders. They've released animals from fur farms, research labs, and other places many times, which always resulted in the local ecology being disrupted or destroyed by the released animals and endangerment to the people and their pets living on the areas. Quite stupid for people who claim to want to save the environment and all its precious creatures, isn't it?

If PETA was actually serious about its goal, it wouldn't be parading naked women around in body paint and locked in cages, sucking the dicks of every Hollywood celebrity it can, attacking Nintendo over Super Mario 3-D Land and Pokemon, and making stupid Flash games that teach children to call fish "sea kittens".
 
2013-03-21 05:54:48 PM  

cousin-merle: Phins: For the last time, ANY CITY/COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER WILL EUTHANIZE AN ANIMAL FOR FREE. This is not some noble service by PETA that is unavailable anywhere else. The law requires these shelters to take in all animals and they have no problem euthanizing sick or aggressive animals.

No they don't.  The one by me charges $51 for pet surrender and $96 for stray cat turn-in.  You don't know what you're talking about.  PETA also takes animals in for their preferred method of euthanasia, instead of gassing/shooting that may occur at other shelters.

Rather than your knee-jerk defense of killing, why don't you read some of the countless stories, including ones from former PETA employees and interns of PETA KILLING HEALTHY ANIMALS.

You mean the one or two stories where people broke the law and PETA policies?  I am not defending those people.


Sorry about your town, but the Counties of Suffolk, the city of Norfolk, and the city of Virginia Beach (and probably more) all operate shelters that will take animals for free.   What is different about these is that they will care for these animals, and if adoptable, try to find homes for them.   This is the jurisdiction that PETA offers their "final solution" services in.    There is no point to the PeTA shelter other than to convince unsuspecting people to surrender their animals to them to be killed.
 
2013-03-21 06:17:34 PM  
cousin-merle: No they don't.  The one by me charges $51 for pet surrender and $96 for stray cat turn-in.

Wow. sorry, didn't know that. You've totally changed my mind. I now think it's just fine that PETA lies to people, calls their slaughterhouse a shelter and tells people they'll take good care of the animals and find them good homes but then kills them within minutes. But it's free killing!! Woo hoo!!! It's so cool that they admit to the state that they just kill them all but tell the public the opposite. I totally agree with Ingrid Newkirk when she calls euthanasia a" gift" and says "it's the best gift they ever had." She's so right, we should kill all the animals the minute they get to the shelter. Let's continue to congratulate shelters that kill animals rather than adopt them out. That's so liberating for the animals. What a great and awesome organization.

I bet that if I could ask my four rescue animals and 12 fosters if they would rather have been killed at the shelter, they would say "yes! we'd so much rather be dead than living these happy lives." I bet all the animals that have received medical care and behavior training at the rescue group where I volunteer would rather be dead as well. I think I'll go over there right now and start the killing. Obviously it would be so much better for them and I'll do it for FREE so that makes it a good thing. I bet everyone else at the rescue group will thank me and throw me a big party for doing such good work killing all the animals.

Thanks, cousin Merle. Your logic and insight are amazing and I'm totally in favor of killing now, thanks to you. Good job!
 
2013-03-21 06:51:25 PM  

rnatalie: Sorry about your town, but the Counties of Suffolk, the city of Norfolk, and the city of Virginia Beach (and probably more) all operate shelters that will take animals for free. What is different about these is that they will care for these animals, and if adoptable, try to find homes for them. This is the jurisdiction that PETA offers their "final solution" services in. There is no point to the PeTA shelter other than to convince unsuspecting people to surrender their animals to them to be killed.


What unsuspecting people?  They don't claim to take animals to rescue and don't run an adoption service.  They explicitly advertise a free euthanization service as a last resort.

Also, citation needed on the shelters.  Norfolk charges $15 for surrendered petsVirginia Beach takes surrendered animals but does not offer euthanization service.

Phins: I now think it's just fine that PETA lies to people, calls their slaughterhouse a shelter and tells people they'll take good care of the animals and find them good homes but then kills them within minutes. But it's free killing!! Woo hoo!!! It's so cool that they admit to the state that they just kill them all but tell the public the opposite.


They don't do that, but whatever you want to believe, dude.
 
2013-03-21 06:56:47 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Also, PETA supports and funds ALF and ELF.


PETA gave ALF $1500 in 2001.  Pretty serious stuff, there.
 
2013-03-21 07:09:30 PM  

KiplingKat278: cousin-merle: Keizer_Ghidorah: Also, PETA supports and funds ALF and ELF.

PETA gave ALF $1500 in 2001.  Pretty serious stuff, there.

And they gave $70,000.00 to arson Rodney Coranado.

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/2004/01/2339-peta-and-terrorism-the-r ea l-deal/

Yes, it's serious. Newkirk has not only given them money, she has openly advocated for these groups:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Ani ma ls#Direct_action_and_the_ALF

It's even on their website:

http://www.peta.org/about/faq/Whats-PETAs-position-on-the-Animal-Lib er ation-Front-ALF.aspx


My god... she is like Hitler and Saddam Hussein combined!
 
2013-03-21 07:15:54 PM  
Silly thing about facts... they are easily proven true or false.  All you've got is conjecture.  Which is nothing.  Well that and a bad attitude and a chronic case of intellectual laziness.  How is that working out for ya?
 
2013-03-21 07:22:17 PM  

KiplingKat278: And they gave $70,000.00 to arson Rodney Coranado..


No, they didn't just give him money.  They gave money to his legal defense fund and a loan to his father.  That was probably not the smartest thing to do, and I hope everyone who was involved got punished.  What have they done in the last decade to support ALF/ELF?

Yes, it's serious. Newkirk has not only given them money, she has openly advocated for these groups:

It's even on their website:


So PETA's position on ALF is that they support non-violent civil disobedience, but oppose arson and hurting people?  How terrible.

KiplingKat278: It's extremely clear from the multiple reports that they do lie to people, individuals and rescue groups, telling them that they will find these animals homes, and instead kill them. There are too many reports to blame on indivudal employees. It was clearly a policy.


How many are there?  I saw one with any credibility, and the article talks about how it was against the law and PETA policy.  The VA inspector's findings support PETA's claims, and PETA's website specifically talks about euthanasia as a last resort.  Stop making things up.
 
2013-03-21 07:22:22 PM  
cousin-merle: What unsuspecting people? They don't claim to take animals to rescue and don't run an adoption service. They explicitly advertise a free euthanization service as a last resort.

KiplingKat278: It's extremely clear from the multiple reports that they do lie to people, individuals and rescue groups, telling them that they will find these animals homes, and instead kill them. There are too many reports to blame on indivudal employees. It was clearly a policy.

yelling because cousin-merle apparently has either a hearing or a comprehension problem

It's extremely clear from the multiple reports that they do lie to people, individuals and rescue groups, telling them that they will find these animals homes, and instead kill them. There are too many reports to blame on indivudal employees. It was clearly a policy.
 
2013-03-21 07:29:32 PM  

Phins: It's extremely clear from the multiple reports that they do lie to people, individuals and rescue groups, telling them that they will find these animals homes, and instead kill them. There are too many reports to blame on indivudal employees. It was clearly a policy.


You keep saying that over and over, but you don't provide any links.  The one you did link to, the employees were acting against the law and PETA policy, and they were charged with felonies, as they should have been.  Or are you referring to the "multiple" "cases" where "healthy" and "adorable" "pets" were "killed" that doesn't have any citations?
 
2013-03-21 07:30:39 PM  

KiplingKat278: Cousin-merle's defintion of "credibility" is the same as the Tea Party: "Sources that agree with my preconcieved ideas."


I am citing government agencies that have investigated.  You are citing an industry lobbying group for fast food, meat and tobacco.  Pretty sure you have that analogy backwards.
 
2013-03-21 07:32:35 PM  
I'm glad the PETA apologists finally showed up to explain why it's different when they murder animals.
 
2013-03-21 07:33:51 PM  

KiplingKat278: karmaceutical: Silly thing about facts... they are easily proven true or false.  All you've got is conjecture.  Which is nothing.  Well that and a bad attitude and a chronic case of intellectual laziness.  How is that working out for ya?

Holy....wow. PETA supporters are delusional. Do you still watch Fox news and vote republican too?

Right now PETA is operating on a 5 million dollar deficit (hence the reason they keep riding coattails of massive media events like The Hobbit premeire).

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4 31 4

One can only hope as the facts about the real PETA get out, those donations will dwindle until it dies.


Man you can't get anything right.  No wonder you have to rely on all that chicanery to try and get your point across.
 
2013-03-21 07:46:29 PM  
cousin-merle: You keep saying that over and over, but you don't provide any links.  The one you did link to, the employees were acting against the law and PETA policy, and they were charged with felonies, as they should have been.  Or are you referring to the "multiple" "cases" where "healthy" and "adorable" "pets" were "killed" that doesn't have any citations?

People have provided plenty of links, you just put your fingers in your ears and say "la la la I can't hear you."

Here's a link to an entire book, Friendly Fire. Read it, unless you're too afraid of finding out that you support a  bunch of murdering hypocrites.
 
2013-03-21 07:50:38 PM  

cousin-merle: KiplingKat278: Cousin-merle's defintion of "credibility" is the same as the Tea Party: "Sources that agree with my preconcieved ideas."

I am citing government agencies that have investigated.  You are citing an industry lobbying group for fast food, meat and tobacco.  Pretty sure you have that analogy backwards.


Christ, I just noticed this bozo created this account just to troll this article.  I can't believe people get paid for this kind of weak sauce.
 
2013-03-21 07:53:18 PM  
cousin-merle:

 PETA also takes animals in for their preferred method of euthanasia, instead of gassing/shooting that may occur at other shelters.

I'm sure you are mistaken.Gassing and shooting are illegal in Virginia, West Virginia, DC, and Maryland. They are saving these animals from a nonexistent threat.

If you got that from PETA, it's just another lie.
 
2013-03-21 07:57:48 PM  
Phins:

Here's a link to an entire book, Friendly Fire. Read it, unless you're too afraid of finding out that you support a  bunch of murdering hypocrites.

Ahh... the money shot.
 
2013-03-21 07:58:48 PM  

verbivore: I'm sure you are mistaken.Gassing and shooting are illegal in Virginia, West Virginia, DC, and Maryland. They are saving these animals from a nonexistent threat.

If you got that from PETA, it's just another lie.


Stop making things up.  PETA's facility serves VA and NC.  Euthanasia by firearm is legal in VA and euthanasia by both firearm and carbon monoxide is legal in NC.
 
2013-03-21 08:00:15 PM  

Phins: People have provided plenty of links, you just put your fingers in your ears and say "la la la I can't hear you."

Here's a link to an entire book, Friendly Fire. Read it, unless you're too afraid of finding out that you support a bunch of murdering hypocrites.


I doubt you looked into this book, like, at all, but it's the same stuff you have already reposted 10 times.  I totally get that there were some people that broke the law and PETA policy and were charged with felonies.  Or is there a specific page I should be looking at?
 
2013-03-21 08:08:12 PM  

KiplingKat278: Sorry, the content from wiki was cut, but you can read it. It's not citing CCF, it's citing the FBI.


No you aren't, you dolt.
 
2013-03-21 08:11:08 PM  

KiplingKat278: People are better off taking their animal to city and county animal shelters who will take anyone, who actually want to help animals rather than kill them, who will put animals up for adoption, who will have adoption fairs, who will work with local rescue groups to place animals in foster homes and adopt them out. For whom euthanasia truly is the last resort, rather than the first one.


PETA's website provides information on euthanasia as a last resort.  Congratulations, you agree with them.
 
2013-03-21 08:15:43 PM  

cousin-merle: verbivore: I'm sure you are mistaken.Gassing and shooting are illegal in Virginia, West Virginia, DC, and Maryland. They are saving these animals from a nonexistent threat.

If you got that from PETA, it's just another lie.

Stop making things up.  PETA's facility serves VA and NC.  Euthanasia by firearm is legal in VA and euthanasia by both firearm and carbon monoxide is legal in NC.


First off, PETA's facility serves PETA. And euthanasia by firearm is legal in VA *only* if the animal is RABID and no other method of capture is working. Gas chamber is sadly still legal in NC, which PETA is located 20 miles away from and is served by its own county animal control.
 
2013-03-21 08:26:31 PM  

cynicalbastard: KawaiiNot: karnal: At least no poultry was harmed

I sense a biasis against non-edible animals on PETA's part.

There are non-edible animals?


No, but there are the less tasty ones.
 
2013-03-21 08:29:02 PM  

KiplingKat278: karmaceutical: KiplingKat278: Sorry, the content from wiki was cut, but you can read it. It's not citing CCF, it's citing the FBI.

No you aren't, you dolt.

http://www.targetofopportunity.com/peta_tax.htm

Happy now?


What does that have to do with the FBI?
 
2013-03-21 08:29:56 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: cynicalbastard: KawaiiNot: karnal: At least no poultry was harmed

I sense a biasis against non-edible animals on PETA's part.

There are non-edible animals?

No, but there are the less tasty ones.


Poison-arrow frogs are definitely non-edible.
 
2013-03-21 09:02:32 PM  

KiplingKat278: karmaceutical: KiplingKat278: karmaceutical: KiplingKat278: Sorry, the content from wiki was cut, but you can read it. It's not citing CCF, it's citing the FBI.

No you aren't, you dolt.

http://www.targetofopportunity.com/peta_tax.htm

Happy now?

What does that have to do with the FBI?

You can nitpick at sources all you want, but PETA gave $45k to defend a domestic terrorist and $25K to his family.

They have publically condoned domestic terrorism on their own website. So yeah, they support terrorism.


I guess we can add "cite" to the list of terms you don't have an operational understanding of  Keep up the good work.
 
2013-03-21 09:13:12 PM  
no kill shelters are the best by far.  but they aren't always possible.  it seems that many of the peta-haters don't bother to donate to animal shelters.  i do, but i'm poor.
 
2013-03-21 09:23:10 PM  

Bucky Katt: no kill shelters are the best by far.  but they aren't always possible.  it seems that many of the peta-haters don't bother to donate to animal shelters.  i do, but i'm poor.


Big difference between "no-kill not always possible" and "PETA killing almost every animal they receive no matter what condition it's in".
 
2013-03-21 10:12:38 PM  

KiplingKat278: Keizer_Ghidorah: Bucky Katt: no kill shelters are the best by far.  but they aren't always possible.  it seems that many of the peta-haters don't bother to donate to animal shelters.  i do, but i'm poor.

Big difference between "no-kill not always possible" and "PETA killing almost every animal they receive no matter what condition it's in".

A soon as they walks in the door without trying opening adoptions to the public.

My thing is they swear they are doing the most humane thing possible while giving away tens of thousands of dollars to domestic terrorists. If they took that money and dedicated it to building a real shelter, creating a viable adoption program, they would actually be helping animals rather than this twisted idea that they are helping them by killing the large majority of animals that walk in their door.

Or send that money to real no kill shelters, who could help even more animals with it.


That would mean those animals would become enslaved by humans again, something PETA won't stand for. Better to die than be subjugated, says PETA.
 
2013-03-21 10:17:26 PM  

KiplingKat278: karmaceutical: KiplingKat278: karmaceutical: KiplingKat278: Sorry, the content from wiki was cut, but you can read it. It's not citing CCF, it's citing the FBI.

No you aren't, you dolt.

http://www.targetofopportunity.com/peta_tax.htm

Happy now?

What does that have to do with the FBI?

You can nitpick at sources all you want, but PETA gave $45k to defend a domestic terrorist and $25K to his family.

They have publically condoned domestic terrorism on their own website. So yeah, they support terrorism.


I cited a .gov website above, for what it's worth(many pdf links to evidence to consider them as associating with ELF/ALF terrorists and to be watched, or something to that effect).  Not surprisingly, no one has replied to it.
 
2013-03-21 11:11:18 PM  

notto: Yeah, they should keep them in small cages for the rest of their natural lives, that would be the ethical and humane choice, right?

Euthanasia in these circumstances is the ethical and humane choice.  If you don't agree, then go get yourself 10 cats and a few dogs to help out.



If your team does it then any action is justifiable.

If it's the other guy's team, well then that same action is abhorrent and evil!
 
2013-03-21 11:12:14 PM  
Are we to take these two clear statements - "animals have value even the absence of humans" and "animals have a right not to be tortured" - that PETA believes that animals should have the right to jury trials? Or that animals should be free from unreasonable searches? Or that animals should be allowed to vote?

Of course not. Clearly, their philosophy does not extend to the hyperbolic extremes you've cast it as.

Your turn.

They clearly state that animals are equal to humans in terms of right to not be hurt, killed etc. They object to harming animals to save human lives, but also dont mind killing animals to save money for other projects.

On the contrary, they clearly state that animals are equal to humans in terms of a right to "live free from pain and suffering".You can tell that that's what they say because I used quote marks, rather than your paraphrasing attempt to enlarge their statement to a right not to be hurt or killed. They are not hypocrites, because painless euthanasia does not infringe that right.
Similarly, I believe that humans also have that right, but I also believe in euthanasia or assisted suicide for the terminally ill. In fact, it's not a "but", but a "therefore" - I don't believe people should be forced to live out their days in pain and suffering. It would, instead, be hypocritical to believe that no one should ever be allowed release from pain.

You are right. Technically they are not hypocrites. However their philosophy is not logically consistent and probably immoral by most measures.

What's your opinion on torture? And what's your opinion on assisted suicide?


4/10.  You blew it when you tried to compare it to things as dissimilar as torture and assisted suicide after such a ridiculously pedantic and legalistic rant.  You could salvage a few points by coming out in full support of the euthanasia of neglected but perfectly healthy human children.
 
2013-03-21 11:26:08 PM  

CourtroomWolf: 4/10.


Did you screw up a quote? Not sure which side you're on.
/too lazy to scroll and see what was/wasn't yours
 
2013-03-21 11:56:12 PM  

fredklein: ciberido: The very name "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" sends the message that anyone who disagrees with their policies in the slightest is unethical.

Exactly- you can tell a lot about a group by what its name is. For instance "Pro-Life" implies everyone else is Pro-death (or 'anti-life', which ever way you want to put it). And there's nothing like implying that the other side is evil right in your very name to start a debate off right.

Groups that want to do it right start of with simple, descriptive names (for instance, "Pro-choice" implies the other side is anti-choice. Which they are) that do not vilify the opponent.

As you say, "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" implies that anyone who disagrees is unethical. Even more, it implies that about anyone who isn't a member of PETA.



You can generalize to other groups such as "Objectivism" or "Democratic People's Republic of Korea."
 
2013-03-22 12:12:35 AM  
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/peta_tax.htm


I never knew how terrible geography teachers could be until I checked that site out.  Brave, brave work.

Seriously, the document does indeed say that PETA donated money to that guy's legal defense fund.  Why we are supposed to be surprised that PETA might have links to a militant animal rights activist is odd, but hey, there you go.  I'm not sure how that proves that their operating a euthanasia clinic that has to register as a shelter in Virginia is morally wrong, but I can see how PETA's tactics color anything they try to do for some.

Now no one else has to count as a visitor on the above site, although if you want a line-by-line paranoid deconstruction of some geography teacher's lesson, go for it.
 
2013-03-22 12:17:08 AM  
Phins: Pictures of healthy adoptable animals killed by PETA, animals described by PETA as "adorable" and "perfect." WARNING: graphic pics of dead animals.

cousin-merle: I love the scare quotes around single words, and when you go to their documents page for proof, it is still just scare quotes around single words, not any kind of quote in context.  I had to put down my first dog for cochlear infections (well, my parents had to; this was a long time ago).  He looked perfectly adorable but was in pain every day.



They're not scare quotes when they're actual direct quotes, genius.
 
2013-03-22 12:34:42 AM  

karmaceutical: Silly thing about facts... they are easily proven true or false.  All you've got is conjecture.  Which is nothing.  Well that and a bad attitude and a chronic case of intellectual laziness.  How is that working out for ya?


It's a shame I have no idea to whom you're speaking.
 
2013-03-22 12:43:33 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Mambo Bananapatch: cynicalbastard: KawaiiNot: karnal: At least no poultry was harmed

I sense a biasis against non-edible animals on PETA's part.

There are non-edible animals?

No, but there are the less tasty ones.

Poison-arrow frogs are definitely non-edible.



I'd stay away from fugu and blue-ringed octopuses, too, if I were you.
 
2013-03-22 01:26:14 AM  
Ohlookabutterfly:
 /I feel dirty knowing we agree on something
//nice to see you can express yourself without being a douche on occasion



Oddly enough I kinda feel the same way.  But, seriously, cheers.
 
2013-03-22 09:17:37 AM  

ciberido: karmaceutical: Silly thing about facts... they are easily proven true or false.  All you've got is conjecture.  Which is nothing.  Well that and a bad attitude and a chronic case of intellectual laziness.  How is that working out for ya?

It's a shame I have no idea to whom you're speaking.


Well... I wasn't talking to you.  So I guess you'll have to live with that shame for the rest of your days.
 
2013-03-22 09:33:47 AM  

CourtroomWolf: Are we to take these two clear statements - "animals have value even the absence of humans" and "animals have a right not to be tortured" - that PETA believes that animals should have the right to jury trials? Or that animals should be free from unreasonable searches? Or that animals should be allowed to vote?

Of course not. Clearly, their philosophy does not extend to the hyperbolic extremes you've cast it as.

Your turn.

They clearly state that animals are equal to humans in terms of right to not be hurt, killed etc. They object to harming animals to save human lives, but also dont mind killing animals to save money for other projects.

On the contrary, they clearly state that animals are equal to humans in terms of a right to "live free from pain and suffering".You can tell that that's what they say because I used quote marks, rather than your paraphrasing attempt to enlarge their statement to a right not to be hurt or killed. They are not hypocrites, because painless euthanasia does not infringe that right.
Similarly, I believe that humans also have that right, but I also believe in euthanasia or assisted suicide for the terminally ill. In fact, it's not a "but", but a "therefore" - I don't believe people should be forced to live out their days in pain and suffering. It would, instead, be hypocritical to believe that no one should ever be allowed release from pain.

You are right. Technically they are not hypocrites. However their philosophy is not logically consistent and probably immoral by most measures.

What's your opinion on torture? And what's your opinion on assisted suicide?


4/10.  You blew it when you tried to compare it to things as dissimilar as torture and assisted suicide after such a ridiculously pedantic and legalistic rant.  You could salvage a few points by coming out in full support of the euthanasia of neglected but perfectly healthy human children.


This is true, he is pretty good at playing the verbal gymnastics game (I like to think that I am also) but he made the mistake of claiming that he is not a supporter of PETA or their ideology.  Nobody without skin in the game would defend PETA unless they were just trying to F with people.  It can be fun to take a retarded position in an argument and attempt to defend that position, but this can be dangerous as random idiots reading the thread might be swayed or have their own version of crazy validated.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7656714/83169966#c83169966" target="_blank" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7656714/83169966#c8 3169966">Keizer_Ghidorah: Mambo Bananapatch: cynicalbastard: KawaiiNot: karnal: At least no poultry was harmed

I sense a biasis against non-edible animals on PETA's part.

There are non-edible animals?

No, but there are the less tasty ones.

Poison-arrow frogs are definitely non-edible.



FWIW, once they are in captivity they rapdidly lose their poison. The belief is that they build up the poison due to their diet of ants. Likely they would still be nasty to eat.

karmaceutical: I'm telling ya, pets make some people crazy. Texas makes it legal to execute humans for trespassing and no one cares... but PeTA drives people into frothing lunacy.

There are plenty of asshats in the world that deserve scorn.

As I've said before, the funny thing is that a great many people (myself included) would agree with the majority of PETA's positions. The problem is that PETA is not honest about their motivations, and their other positions are batshiat crazy.
 
2013-03-22 10:22:39 AM  

karmaceutical: ciberido: karmaceutical: Silly thing about facts... they are easily proven true or false.  All you've got is conjecture.  Which is nothing.  Well that and a bad attitude and a chronic case of intellectual laziness.  How is that working out for ya?

It's a shame I have no idea to whom you're speaking.

Well... I wasn't talking to you.  So I guess you'll have to live with that shame for the rest of your days.



Oh, actually I feel oddly proud to be the recipient of the most gratuitous insult in the thread.  So, thank you.
 
2013-03-22 02:43:16 PM  

notto: Yeah, they should keep them in small cages for the rest of their natural lives, that would be the ethical and humane choice, right?

Euthanasia in these circumstances is the ethical and humane choice.  If you don't agree, then go get yourself 10 cats and a few dogs to help out.


Yes they should you farking prick. Every link here is proof.
 
2013-03-22 02:48:44 PM  
2012 is not an aberration either. PeTA has a history of abysmal placement rates and indiscriminate euthanasia.

PeTA's kill rate was 96% in 2011 and 79% in 2010. They apparently tried to lower their kill rate numbers in 2005 by dumping dead cats and dogs in a supermarket's dumpster. The testimony at trial gave some of the awful details of the dumping. The PeTA employees were not  convicted of animal cruelty; they were convicted of littering. Very odd since they dumped their "trash" in a dumpster.

www.petakillsanimals.com
One of the puppies dumped in supermarket dumpster by PeTA's Adria Hinkle and Andrew Cook.
 
2013-03-22 05:01:29 PM  

spiderpaz: We must kill them all to save them from how cruel life is.  Don't you get it?

Actually, I don't really disagree with euthanizing animals before they over-breed and create a situation where even more animals will suffer and die.  I just think most people that are part of PETA are self-righteous douche bags that get into other people's business (specifically food choices) way too much.  Is it even possible for someone to become a vegetarian without becoming a peachy little biatch about it anymore?


Reminds me of a joke.

How do you know whether or not someone's a vegetarian?  Just wait and they'll tell you.
 
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