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2013-03-21 10:09:46 AM
8 votes:

kumanoki: That poor little boy.


Yes, growing up with a mother like that is going to be rough on him.
2013-03-21 10:07:13 AM
7 votes:

PsyLord: I haven't read anything about this guy.  I'm not sure if he was overly aggressive with the taser or what, but it seems as though he might've been a bit trigger happy (at least from those two clips).


The articles I've read about it pretty much say that he isn't laid off because of how he did his job, but because of the fact that this particular Hall Mall (read, flea market) is going down the tubes in spite of his efforts. Vendors are leaving and the thugs have pretty much overwhelmed the security. Apparently the place has become impossible to do legitimate business in.

It's impossible to hold back the tide with a teaspoon. That place will be a boarded-up shooting gallery or crack den within six months.
2013-03-21 10:16:41 AM
5 votes:

haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?


The cops were called...
btw, when the cops finally got there and watched the video, she was charged with assault, tresspassing and endangering the welfare of a child, had kids taken away.
2013-03-21 10:06:02 AM
5 votes:

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


Come on. you're trolling right? They did this guy a favor letting him go. I feel sorry for the replacement who gets to deal with the 'innocent bystanders' and probably has to do it without a taser.
2013-03-21 10:10:26 AM
4 votes:

kumanoki: The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


You should find the whole clip. Those kids needed to see that.
2013-03-21 10:04:50 AM
4 votes:

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?
2013-03-21 11:55:47 AM
3 votes:
DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.
2013-03-21 10:51:18 AM
3 votes:
We're talking Atlanta, people - I wouldn't take the job armed with anything less than a flame-thrower.
2013-03-21 10:20:21 AM
3 votes:

Deathfrogg: PsyLord: I haven't read anything about this guy.  I'm not sure if he was overly aggressive with the taser or what, but it seems as though he might've been a bit trigger happy (at least from those two clips).

The articles I've read about it pretty much say that he isn't laid off because of how he did his job, but because of the fact that this particular Hall Mall (read, flea market) is going down the tubes in spite of his efforts. Vendors are leaving and the thugs have pretty much overwhelmed the security. Apparently the place has become impossible to do legitimate business in.

It's impossible to hold back the tide with a teaspoon. That place will be a boarded-up shooting gallery or crack den within six months.


Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs". As a matter-of-fact, he gave himself credit for keeping the mall clean and said that the thugs would RETURN because he was just fired. If they were taking over the mall they would not have to "return".
2013-03-21 10:04:38 AM
3 votes:

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


He shoulda used that taser on the kids as well. No more screaming. Simples.
2013-03-21 06:45:40 PM
2 votes:
Dro, seriously you are doing a disservice to yourself and your cause.

First of all, most Farkers ridicule and laugh at racists and other bigots. Most of the bigoted comments you refer to are by known trolls who have long since been ignored.

Secondly, we do our best not to encourage trolls. Haven't you been paying attention at the rising number of people calling for simply ignoring WBC?

Third, there were roughtly 350k slave owners in the US historically. Southern states had between 30%-50% ownership, northern states much less. The point here is, most Americans living in the modern day cannot trace their roots to that time. Of those that can, odds are, their ancestors were not slave owners. As for my ancestors, they were too busy with the Ottomans at the time to care about you and yours.

Fourth, you seem to forget that a very small percentage of slaves that made it here were actually caught by the evil white man. They were caught, bagged, tagged, and sold by their brothers, but hey, blame the white man.

The screwed up thing is you don't seem like an idiot,  matter of fact, you seem fairly intelligent. Sadly you use the tactics and arguments of idiots and trolls, so don't blame us for treating you as such.
2013-03-21 05:37:32 PM
2 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


Stop defending thugs.  Take some goddamn responsibility for your culture, already.
2013-03-21 11:17:45 AM
2 votes:

liam76: JustGetItRight: Anatomy of a mall closure (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed.

Malls have been getting crushed by strip malls again for quite some time.  With on-line shopping there is just that much less draw.  The "thugs" are just a tiny part of the problem for most malls.


Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s...one long strip of stores that you could enter without having to go "into" the mall.  They were fun, successful and easy to get to the store you wanted.  Then someone wanted to enclose everything and malls have failed since.

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2013-03-21 11:05:57 AM
2 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.




...says DROxINxTHExWIND, while sitting comfortably behind his computer, without ever putting a foot near that place or having to deal with that sort of shiat.

I'm sure you know better than the man who actually has his neck on the line.
2013-03-21 10:43:56 AM
2 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs".


Anatomy of a mall closure  (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed. 

The second just lost one of it's biggest draws - a modern 8 screen cinema.   It is following the exact same path as the first.  A decade from now, it will be closed too.
2013-03-21 10:41:59 AM
2 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


I don't think asking politely works on those guys... Have you see his other videos? Amazing stuff.. I couldn't help but watch them all in a row.

I felt like an anthropologist watching an alien culture... That stuff would just not happen here.
2013-03-21 10:38:51 AM
2 votes:
I remember the original clip of this guy. He deserves a medal. I remember the mother encouraging her children to act in the same way she was, and I also remember she hit him several times before he tased her.

People are so self centered and disrespectful anymore. I wish I had a taser.
2013-03-21 10:38:28 AM
2 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.
2013-03-21 10:22:29 AM
2 votes:
Stereotypes...they exist for a reason.

/Cue that's racist in 3, 2, 1...
2013-03-21 10:20:05 AM
2 votes:

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


I just looked Metro Mall up. It is south of Five Points, which can be a rough area -- a lot of crime and violence. The owners of the mall hired this guy specifically to be aggressive because the thugs were ruining their business. The vendors have been vacating because the place has become too dangerous.
2013-03-21 10:18:05 AM
2 votes:

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.
2013-03-21 10:15:34 AM
2 votes:
2013-03-21 10:15:15 AM
2 votes:

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


I think making a summary judgement of a short video clip without knowing what lead up to it is being overly judgmental.  MAYBE you don't have enough information to decide if he was right or wrong?  MAYBE you should just enjoy the show and then move on.
2013-03-21 10:09:58 AM
2 votes:
This guy seems like a total moron, but he's probably the kind of moron required to prevent that mall from being robbed blind every day of the week.  Those guys buying shoes seemed to just be guys buying shoes, but he clearly recognized the one he called "dawg", so they were probably well-known local dope fiends scouting the mall for for toddlers to sell crack to.
2013-03-21 10:09:44 AM
2 votes:

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.
2013-03-21 10:02:13 AM
2 votes:
With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.
2013-03-21 12:25:59 AM
2 votes:
You knew it wasn't going to last..
2013-03-21 06:49:01 PM
1 votes:
Forgot one point.
Don't blame me for what my father/grandfather/etc... did. You will never see me try to capture any glory for any great deeds my ancestry may have perpetrated, similarly I do not want any blame for any bad deeds.
Judge me as a man on the merit of my deeds.

Hopefully you can understand at least that, it seems what you are arguing for while shooting yourself in the foot playing the victim.
2013-03-21 05:38:28 PM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Psycoholic_Slag: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

My great grandparents migrated to CA from OK during the great Dust Bowl era, lived in the same labor camp that was featured in The Grapes of Wrath, and harvested crops for a living.  EABOD you racist POS.

And I'm sure they were the nicest, colored-folk lovingest white people in Oklahoma. Now that you've stuck out in rage at the black racist, lets see you comment on one of the other biggoted things said in the thread. Since its obvious how much you despise it.


Hmmmm, I went back and read the thread from the start.  Here is the first bigoted/racist remark I came across:

DROxINxTHExWIND: "The sad part is that people actually trust this clown with their children and they probably have no idea he's a stupid ass bigot. I guess those ni&&er football players on your team are the exception, huh "coach"?"

Yep, YOU.
2013-03-21 05:35:11 PM
1 votes:

dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.


Yep.  Watched the full video.  Dude says one thing to some loud kids, suddenly has two women inches from his face yelling at him about not talking to their kids.  He even tries to ignore the situation and they just keep escalating.  Finally he tells them they're not welcome at the mall and to not enter, then goes inside.  You'd think that would be it.  A not-dumb person at that point would have just said "yeah I showed that security guard who's boss" and wandered off.  Instead the dumb baby factory not only tries to enter the mall, she starts swinging at the security guard.  Hell yeah she's going to get tased, kids or no.  Hell I'm surprised he didn't tase her about two minutes earlier in the video.
2013-03-21 01:19:27 PM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.


They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

My great grandparents migrated to CA from OK during the great Dust Bowl era, lived in the same labor camp that was featured in The Grapes of Wrath, and harvested crops for a living.  EABOD you racist POS.
2013-03-21 12:39:14 PM
1 votes:
I tend to ignore the racists and bigots so I don't see their comments...well, except for you.  But, thanks for assuming that I do see them or that I because I don't engage every idiot in here that my desire to not respond is somehow indicative of my tacit approval.

You can't even see how wrong you are.  I won't be holding my breath for you either.
2013-03-21 12:18:41 PM
1 votes:

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it

So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.


I never said you had anything in you. I simply stated the facts. The comment about blacks dependence on welfare creating a sense of entitlement was posted BEFORE my comment. You scrolled right past it and took issue with what I said, which leads me to believe that it didn't bother you. The mistake that you're making is in thinking that there is anything to get over. The President is black. I have a good job and the skills to get another. I wasn't denied the purchase of my home because of race. I'm good. Jousting with you all about your perceptions of black people isn't as serious as you all like to make it. At the end of the day, I'm not going to make some computer warrior decide that blacks are A-OK with anything that I post. But, I can expose the flaws in the logic that causes him toview us that way. I'll be ok and you will too. Oh, that's the second time that you've tried to drop the mic and sign off. It only works if you stop responding.
2013-03-21 12:10:50 PM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it


So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.
2013-03-21 12:06:02 PM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.


Personally, I find both generalizations idiotic.  You don't fight derp with even more derp, Dro.
2013-03-21 12:01:52 PM
1 votes:

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.


LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it
2013-03-21 11:49:37 AM
1 votes:

Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.


They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"
2013-03-21 11:48:18 AM
1 votes:
It's a bad crowd there. Lots of ghetto trash.

The Obama kids here say you deal with people like that with a hug and a check. That figures.
2013-03-21 11:41:18 AM
1 votes:

PsyLord: Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods. I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking. Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.


With the prod, they have to close to melee distance. The taser is a ranged (albiet limited) weapon. I'll take the prod.  Besides, if it's just a regular cattle prod, you can just grab the shaft and avoid getting zapped by the pointy ends. Now if it's a stun baton, grabbing it will give you the same shock. Either way, the futher away from your opponent you can do battle, the better (preferably from Low Earth Orbit). Remember, if you're in a fair fight, you didn't plan correctly.
2013-03-21 11:26:39 AM
1 votes:

spicorama: Ummm... That and the fact he pulled out a real gun shortly after shooting his tased. I have no doubt he would have shot someone dead if they had rushed him. They knew it too.


I couldn't tell what the second weapon was that he pulled out. I figured if it was a gun then that just escelate things even farther. This guy is lucky he got fired, the way he was headed someone was going to get him soon when the cameras were not on.


zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s...one long strip of stores that you could enter without having to go "into" the mall. They were fun, successful and easy to get to the store you wanted. Then someone wanted to enclose everything and malls have failed since.


There are already several open air "malls" built around here in the last few years. In fact, it is one of the reasons some some of the enclosed malls are dying on the vine.
2013-03-21 11:26:27 AM
1 votes:

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him


When the women swung at him it became about protection.


Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Next time, just say "THIS".

No it isn't.  The whole confrontation was because hew was trying to "enforce his will" (I would call it do his farking job, which you seem to be against).  The taser helps him do that because the peopel he is dealing with are acting like savages.


I'm not going to get drawn in with the dog whistles so you can save your keystrokes. As far as my point, yes, the guard was there to forcefully remove the men from the property when that is a job for the police. My first job was in a CVS that was connected to a mall called Capital Plaza in Maryland. We caught shoplifters all of the time and we would turn them over to mall security, who would turn them over to the police. The mall cops had very strict guidelines on what they could and could not do. They were not to initiate any sort of confrontation and that included being disrespectful to potential customers who they thought were up to no good. If they felt a situation was getting out of hand they were to protect themselves until they were able to call the real police. You can;t go around ordering folks around and tasering them when they dont respond to your threats...if you're a damned mall cop.
2013-03-21 11:25:56 AM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: His videos are all over reddit.  If somebody has been alrerady ordered off property and they keep returning, the security guard isn't "escalating" the situation.

These people (I am talking about the morons in the video who repeatedly ignore him, not any generalization about black people, so don't get your panties in a wad) can't be handled any other way.

First, I know this may come as a big surprise to you but...everyone doesn't have the internet or know what the fark "Reddit" is. I know, I know. I'll give you a second to let that one sink in.


Second, You don't know "those people". So, you don;t know HOW they would have responded to the guard had he spoken to them respectfully. I don;t know what you could be basing your assumptions of their attitude on other than how they look.


Yes, but here we are, on the internet, a step away from the "Search" box. I don't see how we're talking about anyone except informed actors here. From watching the video, the people who escalated the situation were already told not to be in the building. He may not have shown the times he asked people to go nicely, but rather, he posted the much more interesting time where he's assaulted (The lady chucked a rock at him).
2013-03-21 11:23:04 AM
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DROxINxTHExWIND: maggoo: DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

...says DROxINxTHExWIND, while sitting comfortably behind his computer, without ever putting a foot near that place or having to deal with that sort of shiat.

I'm sure you know better than the man who actually has his neck on the line.

You're right. I'm black and I live in DC. I've probably never had to deal with confrontation. Lol. Why is it the first thing you clowns do is go after me and what I know? This is the second of third time in this thread. You don't have shiat on me cuz. Trust me. Leave me out of it and talk about the article. I'm not the subject of the piece.


Because you are the one instructing us on how this guy did it wrong, but you are not telling us how he should have correctly performed his job.  Basically, people are suspecting you are full of crap and want you to start making positive contributions instead of  blindly defending the criminal in this situation.  (and, yes, she is the criminal. Her charges are pending.)
2013-03-21 11:20:39 AM
1 votes:

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


NO.  No it's not, It's actually quite awesome.  Thug culture in the U.S. is past critical mass, in fact, it's teetering on anarchy in slum areas such as this one.  That kid and other bystanders will know that being a raving shiat actually HAS consequences, so straighten the fark up before it's too late.  You libs miss chivalry and courtesy?  Too farking bad, you shiatbags KILLED it.
2013-03-21 11:19:09 AM
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DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


And what would be those ways?  You seem to be rather informed on how to handle large unruly crowds as an individual.  Instead of throwing stones, let's hear your alternative methods.
2013-03-21 11:17:54 AM
1 votes:
I would have tazed that biatch at the beginning, too.
Probably the only minute of her life that she was silent
2013-03-21 11:14:51 AM
1 votes:

haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  That's sweet.  You think the APD shows up at Five Points when someone calls....  You're probably a very nice person.  Glad to have met you.
2013-03-21 11:07:13 AM
1 votes:
liam76: His videos are all over reddit.  If somebody has been alrerady ordered off property and they keep returning, the security guard isn't "escalating" the situation.

These people (I am talking about the morons in the video who repeatedly ignore him, not any generalization about black people, so don't get your panties in a wad) can't be handled any other way.


First, I know this may come as a big surprise to you but...everyone doesn't have the internet or know what the fark "Reddit" is. I know, I know. I'll give you a second to let that one sink in.


Second, You don't know "those people". So, you don;t know HOW they would have responded to the guard had he spoken to them respectfully. I don;t know what you could be basing your assumptions of their attitude on other than how they look.
2013-03-21 11:05:46 AM
1 votes:

mbillips: I'm a 51-year-old white dude who lives in the suburbs. But I've been around. I think that mall cop's problem is he starts out with the tough guy stuff, without working up to it.


I think you should watch his videos.  The people he "starts" with agressively are people he has already told you can't be there.
2013-03-21 11:02:52 AM
1 votes:

kumanoki: mbillips: And what says "gang" about that crowd to you? Those dudes are too old to be gang bangers. I mean, sure, anybody hanging around a shiathole like that in the middle of the day is likely to be involved in some kinda bent activity, since they don't have a job, but that doesn't equal "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle."

If you are WASPy, everything about this video says "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle".


I'm a 51-year-old white dude who lives in the suburbs. But I've been around. I think that mall cop's problem is he starts out with the tough guy stuff, without working up to it. An actual cop buddy of mine said that he always started out acting nice to people he was going to have to order around, because you can always scale up to hardass. If you start out hardass and that doesn't work, you're stuck; you can't back down to nice.

People are people. There are techniques to managing uneducated people who may have a certain moral flexibility about other's property rights, and barking orders at them generally doesn't work too well.
2013-03-21 10:54:41 AM
1 votes:

JustGetItRight: DROxINxTHExWIND: Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs".

Anatomy of a mall closure  (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed. 

The second just lost one of it's biggest draws - a modern 8 screen cinema.   It is following the exact same path as the first.  A decade from now, it will be closed too.


Right. And no one shops on-line or goes to big variety stores like Walmart and Target. Its all because the thugs scared people away. Nowadays, many malls would LOVE for some thugs to come in because they'll be the only ones in the place. The mall where I used to live in Laurel, MD would routinely have more employees in the place during business hours than actual customers. Can't blame the thugs because there aren't any in Laurel.
2013-03-21 10:47:19 AM
1 votes:
snocone:
You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.


And you seem like a tough guy whose been around and who knows a thing or two about all of the evil in the world. I wish the internet had a phrase for guys who are as tough as you. Something that we could shorten into an acronym.
2013-03-21 10:42:07 AM
1 votes:
Unless you have mastered staying alive in a gang environment, just STFU.
You can not handle the truth.
You do not want to know the truth, so just let it go.
2013-03-21 10:39:08 AM
1 votes:
Time to start using bullets.
2013-03-21 10:32:06 AM
1 votes:

asciibaron: fark it, i'll do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejle2oMIzAY


jesus, everythng in that video is sad... from the complete lack of impulse control, to the kids following the example.
2013-03-21 10:29:41 AM
1 votes:
All da monkeys ain't in the zoo.
2013-03-21 10:28:00 AM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.


You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.
2013-03-21 10:26:39 AM
1 votes:

Coach_J: Stereotypes...they exist for a reason.

/Cue that's racist in 3, 2, 1...


The sad part is that people actually trust this clown with their children and they probably have no idea he's a stupid ass bigot. I guess those ni&&er football players on your team are the exception, huh "coach"?
2013-03-21 10:24:15 AM
1 votes:

IamPatSajak: kumanoki: The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

You should find the whole clip. Those kids needed to see that.




Probably NSFW language

Not to mention the little kids yelling "You gay!" at the security guy.
2013-03-21 10:22:49 AM
1 votes:

dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.


His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.
2013-03-21 10:14:33 AM
1 votes:

JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


It's not a mall. It's an old building repurposed and rented to vendors to sell things out of. More like a Flea Market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk
2013-03-21 10:12:54 AM
1 votes:

insano: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

Come on. you're trolling right? They did this guy a favor letting him go. I feel sorry for the replacement who gets to deal with the 'innocent bystanders' and probably has to do it without a taser.


Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods.  I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking.  Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.

4.bp.blogspot.com

/not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up
2013-03-21 10:07:51 AM
1 votes:

The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?



I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.
2013-03-21 10:04:10 AM
1 votes:

JackieRabbit: They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


Notice the tail end of the last clip, he pulls a piece because tazed and confused's friends start to advance on him
2013-03-21 10:02:39 AM
1 votes:
White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.
2013-03-21 09:58:12 AM
1 votes:
I haven't read anything about this guy.  I'm not sure if he was overly aggressive with the taser or what, but it seems as though he might've been a bit trigger happy (at least from those two clips).
2013-03-21 09:56:53 AM
1 votes:
He should leave the area.  Unfortunately, I don't think it's safe there for him.
 
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