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2013-03-21 12:25:59 AM  
You knew it wasn't going to last..
 
2013-03-21 01:48:04 AM  
He looked real broken up about it.
 
2013-03-21 09:56:53 AM  
He should leave the area.  Unfortunately, I don't think it's safe there for him.
 
2013-03-21 09:58:12 AM  
I haven't read anything about this guy.  I'm not sure if he was overly aggressive with the taser or what, but it seems as though he might've been a bit trigger happy (at least from those two clips).
 
2013-03-21 09:58:25 AM  
Can't sap bandwidth at work.
Whahappn?
 
2013-03-21 10:02:13 AM  
With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.
 
2013-03-21 10:02:39 AM  
White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.
 
2013-03-21 10:04:10 AM  

JackieRabbit: They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


Notice the tail end of the last clip, he pulls a piece because tazed and confused's friends start to advance on him
 
2013-03-21 10:04:38 AM  

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


He shoulda used that taser on the kids as well. No more screaming. Simples.
 
2013-03-21 10:04:50 AM  

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?
 
2013-03-21 10:05:21 AM  
He's going tazy crazy!
 
2013-03-21 10:06:02 AM  

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


Come on. you're trolling right? They did this guy a favor letting him go. I feel sorry for the replacement who gets to deal with the 'innocent bystanders' and probably has to do it without a taser.
 
2013-03-21 10:06:34 AM  

JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


I thought they were black. Maybe I should adjust my colour setting on my monitor.
 
2013-03-21 10:07:13 AM  

PsyLord: I haven't read anything about this guy.  I'm not sure if he was overly aggressive with the taser or what, but it seems as though he might've been a bit trigger happy (at least from those two clips).


The articles I've read about it pretty much say that he isn't laid off because of how he did his job, but because of the fact that this particular Hall Mall (read, flea market) is going down the tubes in spite of his efforts. Vendors are leaving and the thugs have pretty much overwhelmed the security. Apparently the place has become impossible to do legitimate business in.

It's impossible to hold back the tide with a teaspoon. That place will be a boarded-up shooting gallery or crack den within six months.
 
2013-03-21 10:07:51 AM  

The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?



I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.
 
2013-03-21 10:08:26 AM  

The Muthaship: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


It looked like she was doing the Kevin Hart shuffle.She didn't have anything after that. It's just posturing.
That poor little boy.
 
2013-03-21 10:09:44 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.
 
2013-03-21 10:09:46 AM  

kumanoki: That poor little boy.


Yes, growing up with a mother like that is going to be rough on him.
 
2013-03-21 10:09:58 AM  
This guy seems like a total moron, but he's probably the kind of moron required to prevent that mall from being robbed blind every day of the week.  Those guys buying shoes seemed to just be guys buying shoes, but he clearly recognized the one he called "dawg", so they were probably well-known local dope fiends scouting the mall for for toddlers to sell crack to.
 
2013-03-21 10:10:26 AM  

kumanoki: The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


You should find the whole clip. Those kids needed to see that.
 
2013-03-21 10:11:36 AM  

The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.


In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?
 
2013-03-21 10:12:54 AM  

insano: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

Come on. you're trolling right? They did this guy a favor letting him go. I feel sorry for the replacement who gets to deal with the 'innocent bystanders' and probably has to do it without a taser.


Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods.  I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking.  Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.

4.bp.blogspot.com

/not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up
 
2013-03-21 10:13:27 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?


He said the cops were called in the video, IIRC.  Not that they would be in any big hurry to respond, I'm sure.  Are you of the opinion that property owners don't have the right to forcibly expel people that refuse to leave their property after multiple requests?
 
2013-03-21 10:14:33 AM  

JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


It's not a mall. It's an old building repurposed and rented to vendors to sell things out of. More like a Flea Market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk
 
2013-03-21 10:15:15 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


I think making a summary judgement of a short video clip without knowing what lead up to it is being overly judgmental.  MAYBE you don't have enough information to decide if he was right or wrong?  MAYBE you should just enjoy the show and then move on.
 
2013-03-21 10:15:34 AM  
 
2013-03-21 10:16:41 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?


The cops were called...
btw, when the cops finally got there and watched the video, she was charged with assault, tresspassing and endangering the welfare of a child, had kids taken away.
 
2013-03-21 10:18:05 AM  

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.
 
2013-03-21 10:18:35 AM  

The Muthaship: Are you of the opinion that property owners don't have the right to forcibly expel people that refuse to leave their property after multiple requests?


If the guy was fired, it doesn't sound like the property owner is a fan of how he handles the situations.

That said, if that's how they choose to handle it, fine.
 
2013-03-21 10:20:05 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


I just looked Metro Mall up. It is south of Five Points, which can be a rough area -- a lot of crime and violence. The owners of the mall hired this guy specifically to be aggressive because the thugs were ruining their business. The vendors have been vacating because the place has become too dangerous.
 
2013-03-21 10:20:21 AM  

Deathfrogg: PsyLord: I haven't read anything about this guy.  I'm not sure if he was overly aggressive with the taser or what, but it seems as though he might've been a bit trigger happy (at least from those two clips).

The articles I've read about it pretty much say that he isn't laid off because of how he did his job, but because of the fact that this particular Hall Mall (read, flea market) is going down the tubes in spite of his efforts. Vendors are leaving and the thugs have pretty much overwhelmed the security. Apparently the place has become impossible to do legitimate business in.

It's impossible to hold back the tide with a teaspoon. That place will be a boarded-up shooting gallery or crack den within six months.


Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs". As a matter-of-fact, he gave himself credit for keeping the mall clean and said that the thugs would RETURN because he was just fired. If they were taking over the mall they would not have to "return".
 
2013-03-21 10:22:29 AM  
Stereotypes...they exist for a reason.

/Cue that's racist in 3, 2, 1...
 
2013-03-21 10:22:49 AM  

dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.


His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.
 
2013-03-21 10:24:15 AM  

IamPatSajak: kumanoki: The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

You should find the whole clip. Those kids needed to see that.




Probably NSFW language

Not to mention the little kids yelling "You gay!" at the security guy.
 
2013-03-21 10:24:52 AM  
A-town in the house!

/F the east coast
 
2013-03-21 10:25:22 AM  

asciibaron: fark it, i'll do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejle2oMIzAY


Shiat. He needs a job at Lenox Square.
 
2013-03-21 10:25:44 AM  

asciibaron: fark it, i'll do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejle2oMIzAY


YOU GAY YOU GAY YOU GAY

Charming.
 
2013-03-21 10:26:39 AM  

Coach_J: Stereotypes...they exist for a reason.

/Cue that's racist in 3, 2, 1...


The sad part is that people actually trust this clown with their children and they probably have no idea he's a stupid ass bigot. I guess those ni&&er football players on your team are the exception, huh "coach"?
 
2013-03-21 10:28:00 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.


You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.
 
2013-03-21 10:29:41 AM  
All da monkeys ain't in the zoo.
 
2013-03-21 10:32:06 AM  

asciibaron: fark it, i'll do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejle2oMIzAY


jesus, everythng in that video is sad... from the complete lack of impulse control, to the kids following the example.
 
2013-03-21 10:35:37 AM  

spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.


Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.
 
2013-03-21 10:36:06 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: asciibaron: fark it, i'll do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejle2oMIzAY

jesus, everythng in that video is sad... from the complete lack of impulse control, to the kids following the example.


Its the media's fault.
 
2013-03-21 10:37:20 AM  
That mall needs to call in LeFlours.

/He's faster than Walt Flannigan's dog
//I heard he's even got 2 kills
 
2013-03-21 10:38:28 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.
 
2013-03-21 10:38:51 AM  
I remember the original clip of this guy. He deserves a medal. I remember the mother encouraging her children to act in the same way she was, and I also remember she hit him several times before he tased her.

People are so self centered and disrespectful anymore. I wish I had a taser.
 
2013-03-21 10:39:08 AM  
Time to start using bullets.
 
2013-03-21 10:41:59 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


I don't think asking politely works on those guys... Have you see his other videos? Amazing stuff.. I couldn't help but watch them all in a row.

I felt like an anthropologist watching an alien culture... That stuff would just not happen here.
 
2013-03-21 10:42:07 AM  
Unless you have mastered staying alive in a gang environment, just STFU.
You can not handle the truth.
You do not want to know the truth, so just let it go.
 
2013-03-21 10:42:46 AM  
Wish I could do that to customers who act like that lady. If nothing else than to just stop her from cursing her kid and being a loud, pointless, public troll. Just yesterday, I had an old fark yell at me, suddenly and without warning, "You LOOK at ME when YOU TALK to ME!" I have never desired so much to tell someone that I didn't want to talk to them. He yelled his entire conversation, angry at the world, and getting me to apologize to him for the world not humoring his desire to not be so weak that he needed a hearing aid. There are some people whos heads I've wanted to check the counter density with.

/so, yes, i would like a tazer, pleeeeeze!
 
2013-03-21 10:42:52 AM  
mall cop = older hall monitor

then again I don't live there and I wasn't around there then.    though would like to see it move from "takes no crap" to "gives folks a chance"
 
2013-03-21 10:43:56 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs".


Anatomy of a mall closure  (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed. 

The second just lost one of it's biggest draws - a modern 8 screen cinema.   It is following the exact same path as the first.  A decade from now, it will be closed too.
 
2013-03-21 10:45:52 AM  

spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.


So therefore he's retroactively justified in tasing the guy he already tased? Doesn't work that way. If I punch you, and you then take a swing at me, I can't claim that my punching was preemptive self defense.
 
2013-03-21 10:47:12 AM  
PsyLord:
Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods.  I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking.  Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.

We use cattle prods all the time on the farm - when I was growing up, my brother used to goose me with one all the time. Hurts, but doesn't knock you down like a tazer will.

/brotherly revenge will be discussed at a later time
 
2013-03-21 10:47:19 AM  
snocone:
You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.


And you seem like a tough guy whose been around and who knows a thing or two about all of the evil in the world. I wish the internet had a phrase for guys who are as tough as you. Something that we could shorten into an acronym.
 
2013-03-21 10:47:51 AM  

No Such Agency: This guy seems like a total moron, but he's probably the kind of moron required to prevent that mall from being robbed blind every day of the week


IF he was doing what it took, why is he a moron.


DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him



When the women swung at him it became about protection.

DROxINxTHExWIND: But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


His videos are all over reddit.  If somebody has been alrerady ordered off property and they keep returning, the security guard isn't "escalating" the situation.

These people (I am talking about the morons in the video who repeatedly ignore him, not any generalization about black people, so don't get your panties in a wad) can't be handled any other way.
 
2013-03-21 10:48:28 AM  

snocone: DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.

You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.


You ever been in a war zone? Like, a combat zone? 99 percent of the time, everything's all calm; security dude's Youtubes are just the 1 percent when the shiat hits the fan. I wouldn't have the slightest hesitation in shopping at that place; I go in to places like that all the time and nobody ever bothers me, aside from sometimes trying to bum money off me or sell me drugs. That stuff is irritating, but it doesn't hurt you. And I don't carry a pistol.

And what says "gang" about that crowd to you? Those dudes are too old to be gang bangers. I mean, sure, anybody hanging around a shiathole like that in the middle of the day is likely to be involved in some kinda bent activity, since they don't have a job, but that doesn't equal "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle."
 
2013-03-21 10:51:18 AM  
We're talking Atlanta, people - I wouldn't take the job armed with anything less than a flame-thrower.
 
2013-03-21 10:51:34 AM  

JustGetItRight: DROxINxTHExWIND: Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs".

Anatomy of a mall closure  (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed. 

The second just lost one of it's biggest draws - a modern 8 screen cinema.   It is following the exact same path as the first.  A decade from now, it will be closed too.


Microcosm of the macrocosm.
Same thing can happen to a neighborhood or an entire city Pretty quick... In a matter of a few years you can reach a tipping point and its all down hill from there.
 
2013-03-21 10:52:44 AM  

Theaetetus: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

So therefore he's retroactively justified in tasing the guy he already tased? Doesn't work that way. If I punch you, and you then take a swing at me, I can't claim that my punching was preemptive self defense.


Ah, misread that - guy took a swing  first and then got tased. I withdraw the criticism.
 
2013-03-21 10:52:50 AM  

Theaetetus: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

So therefore he's retroactively justified in tasing the guy he already tased? Doesn't work that way. If I punch you, and you then take a swing at me, I can't claim that my punching was preemptive self defense.


He took a swing before he got tased... He got tased as a direct result of his actions.
 
2013-03-21 10:53:08 AM  

mbillips: And what says "gang" about that crowd to you? Those dudes are too old to be gang bangers. I mean, sure, anybody hanging around a shiathole like that in the middle of the day is likely to be involved in some kinda bent activity, since they don't have a job, but that doesn't equal "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle."


If you are WASPy, everything about this video says "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle".
 
2013-03-21 10:53:55 AM  

ThisIsntMe: JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.

It's not a mall. It's an old building repurposed and rented to vendors to sell things out of. More like a Flea Market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk


Flea Market Montgomery is in Montgomery Alabama, not Atlanta. The place they are talking about is Metro Mall in downtown Atlanta. It's a collection of mom-and-pop businesses.
 
2013-03-21 10:53:59 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: PsyLord:
Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods.  I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking.  Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.

We use cattle prods all the time on the farm - when I was growing up, my brother used to goose me with one all the time. Hurts, but doesn't knock you down like a tazer will.

/brotherly revenge will be discussed at a later time


Can't you buy some that are in the voltage range of a stun gun?
 
2013-03-21 10:54:41 AM  

JustGetItRight: DROxINxTHExWIND: Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs".

Anatomy of a mall closure  (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed. 

The second just lost one of it's biggest draws - a modern 8 screen cinema.   It is following the exact same path as the first.  A decade from now, it will be closed too.


Right. And no one shops on-line or goes to big variety stores like Walmart and Target. Its all because the thugs scared people away. Nowadays, many malls would LOVE for some thugs to come in because they'll be the only ones in the place. The mall where I used to live in Laurel, MD would routinely have more employees in the place during business hours than actual customers. Can't blame the thugs because there aren't any in Laurel.
 
2013-03-21 10:56:35 AM  

JackieRabbit: They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


I believe it is at Five Points. He is outgunned with the taser. The first video I saw where he used it, I thought "damn, now he's a sitting duck". I fully expected him to get rushed.

Actually, the GoPro is probably his best weapon.
 
2013-03-21 10:58:44 AM  

mbillips: snocone: DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders ...


You ever been in a war zone? Like, a combat zone? 99 percent of the time, everything's all calm; security dude's Youtubes are just the 1 percent when the shiat hits the fan. I wouldn't have the slightest hesitation in shopping at that place; I go in to places like that all the time and nobody ever bothers me, aside from sometimes trying to bum money off me or sell me drugs. That stuff is irritating, but it doesn't hurt you. And I don't carry a pistol.

And what says "gang" about that crowd to you? Those dudes are too old to be gang bangers. I mean, sure, anybody hanging around a shiathole like that in the middle of the day is likely to be involved in some kinda bent activity, since they don't have a job, but that doesn't equal "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle."

Huh?
 
2013-03-21 10:59:19 AM  
Too old?
 
2013-03-21 11:01:05 AM  

ManRay: JackieRabbit: They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.

I believe it is at Five Points. He is outgunned with the taser. The first video I saw where he used it, I thought "damn, now he's a sitting duck". I fully expected him to get rushed.

Actually, the GoPro is probably his best weapon.


Ummm... That and the fact he pulled out a real gun shortly after shooting his tased. I have no doubt he would have shot someone dead if they had rushed him. They knew it too.
 
2013-03-21 11:02:52 AM  

kumanoki: mbillips: And what says "gang" about that crowd to you? Those dudes are too old to be gang bangers. I mean, sure, anybody hanging around a shiathole like that in the middle of the day is likely to be involved in some kinda bent activity, since they don't have a job, but that doesn't equal "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle."

If you are WASPy, everything about this video says "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle".


I'm a 51-year-old white dude who lives in the suburbs. But I've been around. I think that mall cop's problem is he starts out with the tough guy stuff, without working up to it. An actual cop buddy of mine said that he always started out acting nice to people he was going to have to order around, because you can always scale up to hardass. If you start out hardass and that doesn't work, you're stuck; you can't back down to nice.

People are people. There are techniques to managing uneducated people who may have a certain moral flexibility about other's property rights, and barking orders at them generally doesn't work too well.
 
2013-03-21 11:03:45 AM  

JustGetItRight: Anatomy of a mall closure (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed.


Malls have been getting crushed by strip malls again for quite some time.  With on-line shopping there is just that much less draw.  The "thugs" are just a tiny part of the problem for most malls.
 
2013-03-21 11:04:44 AM  

Bullroarer_Took: Too old?


Gang life is not a long-term deal for the most part. Most guys get out of gangs after their first long stretch in prison, or after they have kids. Gang bangers are usually mid-teens to mid-20s.
 
2013-03-21 11:05:37 AM  
liam76:
DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him


When the women swung at him it became about protection.



Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Next time, just say "THIS".
 
2013-03-21 11:05:46 AM  

mbillips: I'm a 51-year-old white dude who lives in the suburbs. But I've been around. I think that mall cop's problem is he starts out with the tough guy stuff, without working up to it.


I think you should watch his videos.  The people he "starts" with agressively are people he has already told you can't be there.
 
2013-03-21 11:05:57 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.




...says DROxINxTHExWIND, while sitting comfortably behind his computer, without ever putting a foot near that place or having to deal with that sort of shiat.

I'm sure you know better than the man who actually has his neck on the line.
 
2013-03-21 11:07:13 AM  
liam76: His videos are all over reddit.  If somebody has been alrerady ordered off property and they keep returning, the security guard isn't "escalating" the situation.

These people (I am talking about the morons in the video who repeatedly ignore him, not any generalization about black people, so don't get your panties in a wad) can't be handled any other way.


First, I know this may come as a big surprise to you but...everyone doesn't have the internet or know what the fark "Reddit" is. I know, I know. I'll give you a second to let that one sink in.


Second, You don't know "those people". So, you don;t know HOW they would have responded to the guard had he spoken to them respectfully. I don;t know what you could be basing your assumptions of their attitude on other than how they look.
 
2013-03-21 11:09:16 AM  

mbillips: Bullroarer_Took: Too old?

Gang life is not a long-term deal for the most part. Most guys get out of gangs after their first long stretch in prison, or after they have kids. Gang bangers are usually mid-teens to mid-20s.


Eighty-seven percent of gang members are 24 or younger.
 
2013-03-21 11:10:43 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him


When the women swung at him it became about protection.


Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Next time, just say "THIS".


No it isn't.  The whole confrontation was because hew was trying to "enforce his will" (I would call it do his farking job, which you seem to be against).  The taser helps him do that because the peopel he is dealing with are acting like savages.
 
2013-03-21 11:11:44 AM  

maggoo: DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

...says DROxINxTHExWIND, while sitting comfortably behind his computer, without ever putting a foot near that place or having to deal with that sort of shiat.

I'm sure you know better than the man who actually has his neck on the line.


You're right. I'm black and I live in DC. I've probably never had to deal with confrontation. Lol. Why is it the first thing you clowns do is go after me and what I know? This is the second of third time in this thread. You don't have shiat on me cuz. Trust me. Leave me out of it and talk about the article. I'm not the subject of the piece.
 
2013-03-21 11:14:29 AM  

mbillips: mbillips: Bullroarer_Took: Too old?

Gang life is not a long-term deal for the most part. Most guys get out of gangs after their first long stretch in prison, or after they have kids. Gang bangers are usually mid-teens to mid-20s.

Eighty-seven percent of gang members are 24 or younger.


Harumph:

www.addictinginfo.org
 
2013-03-21 11:14:51 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  That's sweet.  You think the APD shows up at Five Points when someone calls....  You're probably a very nice person.  Glad to have met you.
 
2013-03-21 11:16:37 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: His videos are all over reddit. If somebody has been alrerady ordered off property and they keep returning, the security guard isn't "escalating" the situation.

These people (I am talking about the morons in the video who repeatedly ignore him, not any generalization about black people, so don't get your panties in a wad) can't be handled any other way.

First, I know this may come as a big surprise to you but...everyone doesn't have the internet or know what the fark "Reddit" is. I know, I know. I'll give you a second to let that one sink in.


WFT are you on about?

You think an individual who was told they weren't allowed to be there can ignore it because they didn't see the video on reddit?


DROxINxTHExWIND: Second, You don't know "those people". So, you don;t know HOW they would have responded to the guard had he spoken to them respectfully. I don;t know what you could be basing your assumptions of their attitude on other than how they look


I could be basing it off the fact he has posted videos talking to them.  Which tells me all I need to know.

He isn't going up to random peopel and yelling at them.  There are plenty of people he walks by in that mall he has no problems with.  The people he is approaching are ones he has already talked to who have come back, or won't leave.

But go ahead and ignore reality so you can pretend this black guy is racist agaisnt other black people.
 
2013-03-21 11:17:45 AM  

liam76: JustGetItRight: Anatomy of a mall closure (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed.

Malls have been getting crushed by strip malls again for quite some time.  With on-line shopping there is just that much less draw.  The "thugs" are just a tiny part of the problem for most malls.


Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s...one long strip of stores that you could enter without having to go "into" the mall.  They were fun, successful and easy to get to the store you wanted.  Then someone wanted to enclose everything and malls have failed since.

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2013-03-21 11:17:47 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: is it the first thing you clowns do is go after me and what I know?


DROxINxTHExWIND: So, you don;t know HOW they would have responded


haha
 
2013-03-21 11:17:54 AM  
I would have tazed that biatch at the beginning, too.
Probably the only minute of her life that she was silent
 
2013-03-21 11:19:09 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


And what would be those ways?  You seem to be rather informed on how to handle large unruly crowds as an individual.  Instead of throwing stones, let's hear your alternative methods.
 
2013-03-21 11:20:39 AM  

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


NO.  No it's not, It's actually quite awesome.  Thug culture in the U.S. is past critical mass, in fact, it's teetering on anarchy in slum areas such as this one.  That kid and other bystanders will know that being a raving shiat actually HAS consequences, so straighten the fark up before it's too late.  You libs miss chivalry and courtesy?  Too farking bad, you shiatbags KILLED it.
 
2013-03-21 11:22:14 AM  

ManRay: JackieRabbit: They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.

I believe it is at Five Points. He is outgunned with the taser. The first video I saw where he used it, I thought "damn, now he's a sitting duck". I fully expected him to get rushed.

Actually, the GoPro is probably his best weapon.


Yep, it is about a block away from the Five Point Station, about 2-3 blocks from the capital, and a block from Underground. I have walked through that area many times as my office is not far. The Metro Mall is not a mall by most standards. It is tiny shops that hustle weaves, gold teeth things, fake perfume, fake handbags, etc. Shops there close before sundown and never on weekends that I am aware of. I have never been approached other than a panhandler, but it is truly a disgusting area. I side with the guard. APD is slow to respond to anything in that 3 block radius. They have bigger fish to fry about 5 blocks north on Peachtree where all the hotels, conventioneers, and tourists spend money. That area is the safest area in Atlanta.
 
2013-03-21 11:23:04 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: maggoo: DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

...says DROxINxTHExWIND, while sitting comfortably behind his computer, without ever putting a foot near that place or having to deal with that sort of shiat.

I'm sure you know better than the man who actually has his neck on the line.

You're right. I'm black and I live in DC. I've probably never had to deal with confrontation. Lol. Why is it the first thing you clowns do is go after me and what I know? This is the second of third time in this thread. You don't have shiat on me cuz. Trust me. Leave me out of it and talk about the article. I'm not the subject of the piece.


Because you are the one instructing us on how this guy did it wrong, but you are not telling us how he should have correctly performed his job.  Basically, people are suspecting you are full of crap and want you to start making positive contributions instead of  blindly defending the criminal in this situation.  (and, yes, she is the criminal. Her charges are pending.)
 
2013-03-21 11:23:58 AM  

zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s...one long strip of stores that you could enter without having to go "into" the mall. They were fun, successful and easy to get to the store you wanted. Then someone wanted to enclose everything and malls have failed since


That is the way ti is going.

a flagship store corner store with shops in between.  Of course now 95% of them are chains...
 
2013-03-21 11:25:56 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: His videos are all over reddit.  If somebody has been alrerady ordered off property and they keep returning, the security guard isn't "escalating" the situation.

These people (I am talking about the morons in the video who repeatedly ignore him, not any generalization about black people, so don't get your panties in a wad) can't be handled any other way.

First, I know this may come as a big surprise to you but...everyone doesn't have the internet or know what the fark "Reddit" is. I know, I know. I'll give you a second to let that one sink in.


Second, You don't know "those people". So, you don;t know HOW they would have responded to the guard had he spoken to them respectfully. I don;t know what you could be basing your assumptions of their attitude on other than how they look.


Yes, but here we are, on the internet, a step away from the "Search" box. I don't see how we're talking about anyone except informed actors here. From watching the video, the people who escalated the situation were already told not to be in the building. He may not have shown the times he asked people to go nicely, but rather, he posted the much more interesting time where he's assaulted (The lady chucked a rock at him).
 
2013-03-21 11:26:09 AM  

Magnus: And what would be those ways? You seem to be rather informed on how to handle large unruly crowds as an individual. Instead of throwing stones, let's hear your alternative methods


If he had asked them nicely Dro thinks they all woudl have quietly and nicely dispersed, nevermind he is dealing with individuals he has told not to be there, and nevermind what the place was like before he started getting agressive.
 
2013-03-21 11:26:11 AM  
I don't get why some black people have a problem with this guy. Guy I work with was also saying similar things to what Dro and others are saying in this thread. Abuse of power, he is a thug himself, escalating for no reason, etc.

Then again guy at work says it causes him physical pain to watch the average worldstar hiphop video outrage.

I think the real problem is that mall cop tapes the altercations and puts them on youtube for the world to see. Maybe exposing this stuff makes him a racist (or an uncle tom)
 
2013-03-21 11:26:27 AM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him


When the women swung at him it became about protection.


Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Next time, just say "THIS".

No it isn't.  The whole confrontation was because hew was trying to "enforce his will" (I would call it do his farking job, which you seem to be against).  The taser helps him do that because the peopel he is dealing with are acting like savages.


I'm not going to get drawn in with the dog whistles so you can save your keystrokes. As far as my point, yes, the guard was there to forcefully remove the men from the property when that is a job for the police. My first job was in a CVS that was connected to a mall called Capital Plaza in Maryland. We caught shoplifters all of the time and we would turn them over to mall security, who would turn them over to the police. The mall cops had very strict guidelines on what they could and could not do. They were not to initiate any sort of confrontation and that included being disrespectful to potential customers who they thought were up to no good. If they felt a situation was getting out of hand they were to protect themselves until they were able to call the real police. You can;t go around ordering folks around and tasering them when they dont respond to your threats...if you're a damned mall cop.
 
2013-03-21 11:26:39 AM  

spicorama: Ummm... That and the fact he pulled out a real gun shortly after shooting his tased. I have no doubt he would have shot someone dead if they had rushed him. They knew it too.


I couldn't tell what the second weapon was that he pulled out. I figured if it was a gun then that just escelate things even farther. This guy is lucky he got fired, the way he was headed someone was going to get him soon when the cameras were not on.


zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s...one long strip of stores that you could enter without having to go "into" the mall. They were fun, successful and easy to get to the store you wanted. Then someone wanted to enclose everything and malls have failed since.


There are already several open air "malls" built around here in the last few years. In fact, it is one of the reasons some some of the enclosed malls are dying on the vine.
 
2013-03-21 11:28:36 AM  
TV people-What's gonna happen when you are out of that job?

Mall Ninja-Within 2 or three days the drug dealers are gonna come back in when they realise I'm not there


Is that.....is that Gecko 45??
 
2013-03-21 11:28:53 AM  

99.998er: Yep, it is about a block away from the Five Point Station, about 2-3 blocks from the capital, and a block from Underground. I have walked through that area many times as my office is not far.


My best friend used to work at the Federal building and would ride Marta to work. He always had a story to tell about things he saw just passing through.
 
2013-03-21 11:30:18 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him


When the women swung at him it became about protection.


Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Next time, just say "THIS".

No it isn't.  The whole confrontation was because hew was trying to "enforce his will" (I would call it do his farking job, which you seem to be against).  The taser helps him do that because the peopel he is dealing with are acting like savages.

I'm not going to get drawn in with the dog whistles so you can save your keystrokes. As far as my point, yes, the guard was there to forcefully remove the men from the property when that is a job for the police. My first job was in a CVS that was connected to a mall called Capital Plaza in Maryland. We caught shoplifters all of the time and we would turn them over to mall security, who would turn them over to the police. The mall cops had very strict guidelines on what they could and could not do. They were not to initiate any sort of confrontation and that included being disrespectful to potential customers who they thought were up to no good. If they felt a situation was getting out of hand they were to protect themselves until they were able to call the real police. You can;t go around ordering folks around and tasering them when they dont respond to your threats...if you're a damned mall cop.


Must have been rough handling those teenage girls after you caught them shoplifting in the burbs.
 
2013-03-21 11:31:13 AM  

Stinkyy: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

NO.  No it's not, It's actually quite awesome.  Thug culture in the U.S. is past critical mass, in fact, it's teetering on anarchy in slum areas such as this one.  That kid and other bystanders will know that being a raving shiat actually HAS consequences, so straighten the fark up before it's too late.  You libs miss chivalry and courtesy?  Too farking bad, you shiatbags KILLED it.


farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-21 11:32:16 AM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: is it the first thing you clowns do is go after me and what I know?

DROxINxTHExWIND: So, you don;t know HOW they would have responded

haha


I fail to see the contradiction. The first was a comment on a personal attack. The second was my opinion that since we do not know the people in the video personally there is no way that we can accurately guess how they would react had things been done differently.

*Shrug*
 
2013-03-21 11:34:05 AM  
What is the guy holding the camera phone doing with his other hand at 1:18?  Did he pop a boner or something?
 
2013-03-21 11:36:17 AM  

zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s


Full of white people?
 
2013-03-21 11:37:00 AM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him


When the women swung at him it became about protection.


Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Next time, just say "THIS".

No it isn't.  The whole confrontation was because hew was trying to "enforce his will" (I would call it do his farking job, which you seem to be against).  The taser helps him do that because the peopel he is dealing with are acting like savages.

I'm not going to get drawn in with the dog whistles so you can save your keystrokes. As far as my point, yes, the guard was there to forcefully remove the men from the property when that is a job for the police. My first job was in a CVS that was connected to a mall called Capital Plaza in Maryland. We caught shoplifters all of the time and we would turn them over to mall security, who would turn them over to the police. The mall cops had very strict guidelines on what they could and could not do. They were not to initiate any sort of confrontation and that included being disrespectful to potential customers who they thought were up to no good. If they felt a situation was getting out of hand they were to protect themselves until they were able to call the real police. You can;t go around ordering folks around and tasering them when they dont respond to your threats...if you're a damned mall cop.

Must have been rough handling those teenage girls after you caught them shoplifting in the burbs.



I see someone doesn't know where Capital Plaza was.

/Hint: You know all of those Farkers from Maryland who cry about how horrible PG County is?
 
2013-03-21 11:38:43 AM  

JackieRabbit: haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.

I just looked Metro Mall up. It is south of Five Points, which can be a rough area -- a lot of crime and violence. The owners of the mall hired this guy specifically to be aggressive because the thugs were ruining their business. The vendors have been vacating because the place has become too dangerous.


Looks like an afterschool job opened up for him:

tshirtvortex.net
 
2013-03-21 11:39:03 AM  

JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


Earlier  reports said it's near the Capitol.

People donated $20K to this guy for "additional equipment."
 
2013-03-21 11:41:18 AM  

PsyLord: Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods. I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking. Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.


With the prod, they have to close to melee distance. The taser is a ranged (albiet limited) weapon. I'll take the prod.  Besides, if it's just a regular cattle prod, you can just grab the shaft and avoid getting zapped by the pointy ends. Now if it's a stun baton, grabbing it will give you the same shock. Either way, the futher away from your opponent you can do battle, the better (preferably from Low Earth Orbit). Remember, if you're in a fair fight, you didn't plan correctly.
 
2013-03-21 11:42:17 AM  

PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up


After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.
 
2013-03-21 11:42:46 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


Video editing is a subtle art.  You should see the "hero" footage.
 
2013-03-21 11:46:47 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I'm not going to get drawn in with the dog whistles so you can save your keystrokes.


If you are hearing dog whistles from em you are imagining things.

DROxINxTHExWIND: As far as my point, yes, the guard was there to forcefully remove the men from the property when that is a job for the police. My first job was in a CVS that was connected to a mall called Capital Plaza in Maryland. We caught shoplifters all of the time and we would turn them over to mall security, who would turn them over to the police. The mall cops had very strict guidelines on what they could and could not do. They were not to initiate any sort of confrontation and that included being disrespectful to potential customers who they thought were up to no good. If they felt a situation was getting out of hand they were to protect themselves until they were able to call the real police. You can;t go around ordering folks around and tasering them when they dont respond to your threats...if you're a damned mall cop


Go watchs oem of his videos.  This isn't a corporate run CVS.  This isn't in a suburb.  He has posted 10+ minute long brawls where the cops don't show.

DROxINxTHExWIND: I fail to see the contradiction. The first was a comment on a personal attack. The second was my opinion that since we do not know the people in the video personally there is no way that we can accurately guess how they would react had things been done differently.


You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).
 
2013-03-21 11:48:18 AM  
It's a bad crowd there. Lots of ghetto trash.

The Obama kids here say you deal with people like that with a hug and a check. That figures.
 
2013-03-21 11:48:57 AM  
Sad indeed.  That guy deserves way more pay and the hero tag.
 
2013-03-21 11:49:37 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.


They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"
 
2013-03-21 11:53:24 AM  
liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?
 
2013-03-21 11:53:43 AM  

ThisIsntMe: JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.

It's not a mall. It's an old building repurposed and rented to vendors to sell things out of. More like a Flea Market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk


Holy shiat.  Now THAT was educational.  Who in the fark would dare defend the behavior of that crazy biatch?
 
2013-03-21 11:55:47 AM  
DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.
 
2013-03-21 11:59:19 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet


That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...
 
2013-03-21 12:00:17 PM  
Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?
 
2013-03-21 12:01:52 PM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.


LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it
 
2013-03-21 12:03:29 PM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...


Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.
 
2013-03-21 12:06:02 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.


Personally, I find both generalizations idiotic.  You don't fight derp with even more derp, Dro.
 
2013-03-21 12:06:08 PM  
RESPONSIBLE

GUN

OWNER
 
2013-03-21 12:07:00 PM  

chknjetski: Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?


Hmmm, a bit more range based on his work in a few threads, but he lacks the pure amusement value of Bevets (and the ability to pull out links to insane sites).
 
2013-03-21 12:09:01 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: snocone:
You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.

And you seem like a tough guy whose been around and who knows a thing or two about all of the evil in the world. I wish the internet had a phrase for guys who are as tough as you. Something that we could shorten into an acronym.


Putz.
Should have stayed w first instinct.
 
2013-03-21 12:10:41 PM  

GanjSmokr: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.

Personally, I find both generalizations idiotic.  You don't fight derp with even more derp, Dro.


I'm not. I'm applying their logic in the opposite direction to show how stupid it is. Then, I ask them why one generalizatin is ok while the other is not. What I have come to realize is that many of them see white people as individuals and they view other minorities as charicatures of a million different stereotypes. When a white man robs a liquor store, Farkers speak about how terrible the man is. When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference.
 
2013-03-21 12:10:42 PM  

ha-ha-guy: chknjetski: Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?

Hmmm, a bit more range based on his work in a few threads, but he lacks the pure amusement value of Bevets (and the ability to pull out links to insane sites).


don't forget the 'quotes from others to prove a point'.  that guy was a master at using the quotes off his blog site as proof of everything.  DRO isn't even remotely close to that legend status.
 
2013-03-21 12:10:50 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it


So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.
 
2013-03-21 12:11:53 PM  

mbillips: snocone: DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.

You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.

You ever been in a war zone? Like, a combat zone? 99 percent of the time, everything's all calm; security dude's Youtubes are just the 1 percent when the shiat hits the fan. I wouldn't have the slightest hesitation in shoppin ...


Why, yes I have, fool.
Do you ever read bios?
I am that guy, somebody had to be it.
 
2013-03-21 12:12:23 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"


If you were taught this from a young age, you could feel naturally feel entitled to do just about anything you want.  That sort of upbringing by incredibly ignorant parents would give a kid a built in excuse for every failure and a built in excuse for every criminal act - "just gettin what should be mine".     I'm white and I was born with jack shiat, as were my parents and their parents and their parents.  I don't know anyone who received any kind of handme down wealth that goes back past the hard work of their own parents.   You have benefited from slavery more than I have.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
2013-03-21 12:13:52 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: GanjSmokr: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.

Personally, I find both generalizations idiotic.  You don't fight derp with even more derp, Dro.

I'm not. I'm applying their logic in the opposite direction to show how stupid it is. Then, I ask them why one generalizatin is ok while the other is not. What I have come to realize is that many of them see white people as individuals and they view other minorities as charicatures of a million different stereotypes. When a white man robs a liquor store, Farkers speak about how terrible the man is. When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference.


You asked me no such question.  You assumed that I didn't oppose it in a desperate attempt to set me up as a strawman that you can tackle like oh so many of those teenage shoplifters back in the day.  Now, you are beginning to lie.   You are a sad sad person.  You certainly won't get over it.  It's your only refuge from the knowledge that you are full of crap.
 
2013-03-21 12:14:13 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?


This guy is a paragon of virtue on almost every front, confrontationally. He is the opposite of tacticool and follows every rule of engagement written and unwritten. He falls down on basically trying to shovel shiat uphill and being a total pollyanna, but I have watched a lot of his(admittedly handpicked) vidyas and there is no grounds for criticism other than pick your battles, dude, maybe you could let some slingin' slide if they aren't harassing anyone.

But yeah, he is calm, polite, non-violent, to the bitter end. He said somewhere that he doesn't call the cops until its life-threatening because a) they never show up and b) it loses him brownie points with the community
 
2013-03-21 12:14:17 PM  
The punk has a hell of a mouth on him, and so do all the people he is dealing with.

If anyone had done me that way, I would take it up personally with the CEO of the corporation that owns the mall---no lawyers, no nothing, just hash it out man to man.

They know what happens with the jury system, and they don't like it.
 
2013-03-21 12:15:55 PM  

Big_Fat_Liar: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

If you were taught this from a young age, you could feel naturally feel entitled to do just about anything you want.  That sort of upbringing by incredibly ignorant parents would give a kid a built in excuse for every failure and a built in excuse for every criminal act - "just gettin what should be mine".     I'm white and I was born with jack shiat, as were my parents and their parents and their parents.  I don't know anyone who received any kind of handme down wealth that goes back past the hard work of their own parents.   You have benefited from slavery more than I have.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


Vaping is safer and much healthier.
 
2013-03-21 12:16:26 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.


No it isn't cool, but he didn't call me out for "dogwhistles" (which there are plenty of in this thread).


DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?


If you ever sit down and watch full exchanges he starts out politely or he starts out by reminding them have been told theyw eren't allowed here.

The amount of restraint he shows when dealing with people that act like what he posted is going to make me give him the benefit of the doubt.

And at the end of the day a security guard doesn't have to be nice.  He doesn't have to be polite.  If you don't like it don't shop there.  If you act like a thug when he isn't polite enough for you, me calling them out as being thugs isn't a "dogwhistle".
 
2013-03-21 12:18:41 PM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it

So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.


I never said you had anything in you. I simply stated the facts. The comment about blacks dependence on welfare creating a sense of entitlement was posted BEFORE my comment. You scrolled right past it and took issue with what I said, which leads me to believe that it didn't bother you. The mistake that you're making is in thinking that there is anything to get over. The President is black. I have a good job and the skills to get another. I wasn't denied the purchase of my home because of race. I'm good. Jousting with you all about your perceptions of black people isn't as serious as you all like to make it. At the end of the day, I'm not going to make some computer warrior decide that blacks are A-OK with anything that I post. But, I can expose the flaws in the logic that causes him toview us that way. I'll be ok and you will too. Oh, that's the second time that you've tried to drop the mic and sign off. It only works if you stop responding.
 
2013-03-21 12:21:19 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference


And when a black person gets inot a tustle for not leaving a mall when a securioty guard asks you blame the guard for not being polite enough, not the black guy for not listening.
 
2013-03-21 12:25:47 PM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference

And when a black person gets inot a tustle for not leaving a mall when a securioty guard asks you blame the guard for not being polite enough, not the black guy for not listening.


Its easier to make your point when you act like I didn't say that he was justified in tasing the woman.

/has nothing to do with race for me.
 
2013-03-21 12:27:37 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference

And when a black person gets inot a tustle for not leaving a mall when a securioty guard asks you blame the guard for not being polite enough, not the black guy for not listening.

Its easier to make your point when you act like I didn't say that he was justified in tasing the woman.

/has nothing to do with race for me.


I am sorry were you or were you not the guy calling out how he behaved towards them?

It has everything to do with race, other wise you wouldn't be pulling dogwhistles out of your ass in response to me.
 
2013-03-21 12:28:01 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it

So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.

I never said you had anything in you. I simply stated the facts. The comment about blacks dependence on welfare creating a sense of entitlement was posted BEFORE my comment. You scrolled right past it and took issue with what I said, which leads me to believe that it didn't bother you. The mistake that you're making is in thinking that there is anything to get over. The President is black. I have a good job and the skills to get another. I wasn't denied the purchase of my home because of race. I'm good. Jousting with you all about your perceptions of black people isn't as serious as you all like to make it. At the end of the day, I'm not going to make some computer warrior decide that blacks are A-OK with anything that I post. But, I can expose the flaws in the logic that causes him toview us that way. I'll be ok and you will too. Oh, that's the second time that you've tried to drop the mic and sign off. It only works if you stop responding.


Leads you to believe...there you go.  You have no desire to actually engage in conversation with others.  This is your problem.  You see what you want to see.  There will always be monsters for you. You can't live without them.   You are an interesting person for just this fact and only this fact alone.
 
2013-03-21 12:29:36 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: JustGetItRight: DROxINxTHExWIND: Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs".

Anatomy of a mall closure  (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed. 

The second just lost one of it's biggest draws - a modern 8 screen cinema.   It is following the exact same path as the first.  A decade from now, it will be closed too.

Right. And no one shops on-line or goes to big variety stores like Walmart and Target. Its all because the thugs scared people away. Nowadays, many malls would LOVE for some thugs to come in because they'll be the only ones in the place. The mall where I used to live in Laurel, MD would routinely have more employees in the place during business hours than actual customers. Can't blame the thugs because there aren't any in Laurel.


You're kidding, right? I lived right behind that mall and during that one year, a little old lady working at the McDonald's next door to it got beaten up and robbed, the Giant Foods next to it was locked down due to a hostage situation (from which the guy escaped), and robberies were routine in the parking garage blocking the view from the street. Thank GOD they tore it down. My best friend was a paramedic at Laurel Volunteer Rescue Squad (now HoCo), and he has way more stories.
 
2013-03-21 12:32:04 PM  

liam76: Malls have been getting crushed by strip malls again for quite some time. With on-line shopping there is just that much less draw. The "thugs" are just a tiny part of the problem for most malls.



In our case, the thug factor is much bigger than a tiny part.  The closed mall was the site of numerous high profile fights and robbery incidents.  Families wouldn't take their kids to it.

The current mall is following the same path.  People don't go to that theater because they don't want to be in the mall after dark.  Sure, it faces the same challenges all brick and mortar shops do when compared to online merchants, but otherwise has a ton to offer vs strip malls.

It is easily accessible from a traffic standpoint and it has family friendly items, including a carousel and ice skating rink.  There aren't many places in Alabama where you can ever watch or participate in ice skating.  If any venue could survive, this is it.

What it cannot survive are stories like these:
http://www.waka.com/news/montgomery-news/Chuck-E-Cheeses-To-Open--19 88 65111.html
Note that this should be a positive story, but those quoted and in the comments just talk about the fights (thugs).

http://centralmontgomery.wsfa.com/news/crime/199941-officials-confir m- fight-gunshots-fired-outside-eastdale-mall

http://www.waka.com/home/top-stories/Man-in-Critical-Condition-after -S hooting-Outside-Eastdale-Mall-139326303.html

http://www.wncftv.com/news/video/Montgomery-Police-Dispute-Witness-C la ims-of-Shots-Fired-in-Eastdale-Mall-165215626.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMhRPr6_-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fikc0Iry8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zN16PAYsiI

http://www.ktre.com/story/13352401/two-suspects-caught-after-robbery -o f-91-year-old

These took 5 minutes to find.  If I searched the local news sites, I could triple the incidents just within the last couple of years.
 
2013-03-21 12:35:10 PM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it

So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.

I never said you had anything in you. I simply stated the facts. The comment about blacks dependence on welfare creating a sense of entitlement was posted BEFORE my comment. You scrolled right past it and took issue with what I said, which leads me to believe that it didn't bother you. The mistake that you're making is in thinking that there is anything to get over. The President is black. I have a good job and the skills to get another. I wasn't denied the purchase of my home because of race. I'm good. Jousting with you all about your perceptions of black people isn't as serious as you all like to make it. At the end of the day, I'm not going to make some computer warrior decide that blacks are A-OK with anything that I post. But, I can expose the flaws in the logic that causes him toview us that way. I'll be ok and you will too. Oh, that's the second time that you've tried to drop the mic and sign off. It only works if you stop responding.

Leads you to believe...there you g ...


I'm still waiting for you to comment about any of the racist statements against blacks in this thread. I won't hold my breathe though. But you're mighty gung ho about how racist and insensitive I am.

/Yeah, leads me to believe...
 
2013-03-21 12:39:14 PM  
I tend to ignore the racists and bigots so I don't see their comments...well, except for you.  But, thanks for assuming that I do see them or that I because I don't engage every idiot in here that my desire to not respond is somehow indicative of my tacit approval.

You can't even see how wrong you are.  I won't be holding my breath for you either.
 
2013-03-21 12:41:03 PM  

mbillips: kumanoki: mbillips: And what says "gang" about that crowd to you? Those dudes are too old to be gang bangers. I mean, sure, anybody hanging around a shiathole like that in the middle of the day is likely to be involved in some kinda bent activity, since they don't have a job, but that doesn't equal "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle."

If you are WASPy, everything about this video says "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle".

I'm a 51-year-old white dude who lives in the suburbs. But I've been around. I think that mall cop's problem is he starts out with the tough guy stuff, without working up to it. An actual cop buddy of mine said that he always started out acting nice to people he was going to have to order around, because you can always scale up to hardass. If you start out hardass and that doesn't work, you're stuck; you can't back down to nice.

People are people. There are techniques to managing uneducated people who may have a certain moral flexibility about other's property rights, and barking orders at them generally doesn't work too well.


I am in corrections and I agree 100%. You get much further with a shock shield and a smile than you do with a shock shield.

/not kidding
 
2013-03-21 12:50:32 PM  
This guy should not ever be allowed to have a weapon.
 
2013-03-21 01:02:24 PM  
Eh. Come to Detroit.
 
2013-03-21 01:13:41 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Eh. Come to Detroit.


The point is that I don't want Atlanta to become Detroit.
 
2013-03-21 01:15:40 PM  

ManRay: spicorama: Ummm... That and the fact he pulled out a real gun shortly after shooting his tased. I have no doubt he would have shot someone dead if they had rushed him. They knew it too.

I couldn't tell what the second weapon was that he pulled out. I figured if it was a gun then that just escelate things even farther. This guy is lucky he got fired, the way he was headed someone was going to get him soon when the cameras were not on.


zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s...one long strip of stores that you could enter without having to go "into" the mall. They were fun, successful and easy to get to the store you wanted. Then someone wanted to enclose everything and malls have failed since.

There are already several open air "malls" built around here in the last few years. In fact, it is one of the reasons some some of the enclosed malls are dying on the vine.


Well, that's karma, because enclosed malls killed the air malls.
 
2013-03-21 01:16:45 PM  

vudukungfu: zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s

Full of white people?


No, I grew up in a racially diverse time and place.
 
2013-03-21 01:16:46 PM  

chknjetski: Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?


I LOL'd.  Holy shiat.
 
2013-03-21 01:19:27 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.


They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

My great grandparents migrated to CA from OK during the great Dust Bowl era, lived in the same labor camp that was featured in The Grapes of Wrath, and harvested crops for a living.  EABOD you racist POS.
 
2013-03-21 01:25:36 PM  

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


Exactly.  He seems much more interested in escalating so he can use his taser.

Not to defend the trash he has to deal with...there's just a way to do it where you don't have to pull your taser/gun every time.
 
2013-03-21 01:32:23 PM  

IRQ12: Exactly. He seems much more interested in escalating so he can use his taser.

Not to defend the trash he has to deal with...there's just a way to do it where you don't have to pull your taser/gun every time.


I have a feeling things would escalate with those women even if he wasn't aggressive in his position.
 
2013-03-21 01:40:56 PM  

ManRay: IRQ12: Exactly. He seems much more interested in escalating so he can use his taser.

Not to defend the trash he has to deal with...there's just a way to do it where you don't have to pull your taser/gun every time.

I have a feeling things would escalate with those women even if he wasn't aggressive in his position.


He repeatedly goes in and out while they are just outside running their mouths.  Then he goes into the the "I dare you" posture about coming back in.

Restraint isn't taunting people you just kicked out.

Trust me I love nothing more than seeing some loudmouth threatening people get zapped.  I just think he is pressing the situation.
 
2013-03-21 01:42:10 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?


wow, you are dense...
 
2013-03-21 01:46:58 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"


Are you telling me that you justify a culture of narcissism and sociopathy due to events that occured 3-5 generations before these people were born? I'm sorry, but opression alone does not cause people to degrade into things that would be an insult to animals to call them animals.
 
2013-03-21 01:47:25 PM  

hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...


Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.
 
2013-03-21 01:50:15 PM  

cybrwzrd: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Are you telling me...


That's where you should have stopped. I'm not telling you shiat. I responded to an ignorant generalization by making one that was equally ignorant which would be relevent to the person that I was responding too. For allegedly intelligent people you all have a terrible time grasping that concept.
 
2013-03-21 01:54:10 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

My great grandparents migrated to CA from OK during the great Dust Bowl era, lived in the same labor camp that was featured in The Grapes of Wrath, and harvested crops for a living.  EABOD you racist POS.


And I'm sure they were the nicest, colored-folk lovingest white people in Oklahoma. Now that you've stuck out in rage at the black racist, lets see you comment on one of the other biggoted things said in the thread. Since its obvious how much you despise it.
 
2013-03-21 01:55:37 PM  

haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?


I am guessing you are white and live in a very white area with no violent crime and a mild amount of property crime.  Either that, or you are completely blind to how real life outside your privileged box functions.
 
2013-03-21 02:04:18 PM  

Kazrath: haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?

I am guessing you are white and live in a very white area with no violent crime and a mild amount of property crime.  Either that, or you are completely blind to how real life outside your privileged box functions.


But YOU'RE from the hood, huh? Lol. Tell me what its like in the hood Double OG. There aren't any police in the hood? Well, who the hell is locking up all of the fathers? Its not the Top Flight Security guard in the article.
 
2013-03-21 02:06:14 PM  

kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.


You really need to watch the entire first video.  That sound you call heartbreaking... it changes.  When you are done watching the video, if you think she didn't need to be tazed, you and I aren't going to like each other.
 
2013-03-21 02:06:39 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: cybrwzrd: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Are you telling me...

That's where you should have stopped. I'm not telling you shiat. I responded to an ignorant generalization by making one that was equally ignorant which would be relevent to the person that I was responding too. For allegedly intelligent people you all have a terrible time grasping that concept.


Fine. Then what do you think can be done to fix the narcissism and sociopathy that exist in the urban poor demographics. It has nothing to do with race- this is a culture thing- but sadly a plurality of those who fall within this cultural group are black, and the pop culture it created is marketed towards other blacks.
 
2013-03-21 02:12:13 PM  
 DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"



Where does it say anything about someone being on welfare means they are black?   Why are you assuming they are black?
 
2013-03-21 02:18:53 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...

Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.


I found your density amusing, so consider me impressed
 
2013-03-21 02:22:22 PM  
What seems most odd about all this is that he apparently thinks that he'll live long enough to look for another job.  He's about to enter into forced retirement.
 
2013-03-21 02:24:17 PM  

hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...

Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.

I found your density amusing, so consider me impressed


Amusing and impressed are not synonyms. Just an FYI. And if you're impressed by what you call stupidity, well then I guess "Idiocracy" wasn't that far off.
 
2013-03-21 02:25:17 PM  
Next up for the the security guard:  Vigilante tasering!
 
2013-03-21 02:33:39 PM  

Theaetetus: So therefore he's retroactively justified in tasing the guy he already tased? Doesn't work that way. If I punch you, and you then take a swing at me, I can't claim that my punching was preemptive self defense.


You're normally pretty logical, but I don't think you watched the same video I did.
 
2013-03-21 02:33:57 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...

Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.

I found your density amusing, so consider me impressed

Amusing and impressed are not synonyms. Just an FYI. And if you're impressed by what you call stupidity, well then I guess "Idiocracy" wasn't that far off.


thanx for the English lesson - now go back to what you do best:

i206.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-21 02:35:01 PM  

Theaetetus: Ah, misread that - guy took a swing  first and then got tased. I withdraw the criticism.


I withdraw my earlier objection.
 
2013-03-21 02:41:05 PM  

hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...

Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.

I found your density amusing, so consider me impressed

Amusing and impressed are not synonyms. Just an FYI. And if you're impressed by what you call stupidity, well then I guess "Idiocracy" wasn't that far off.

thanx for the English lesson - now go back to what you do best:

[i206.photobucket.com image 558x374]


Yeah. I post just so I can get some guy named Hackhix to respond and post a picture about me. Smh. Look, we can disagree on things without anyone being a troll or whatever you're insinuating. Grow up.
 
2013-03-21 03:28:41 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: You're right. I'm black and I live in DC. I've probably never had to deal with confrontation. Lol. Why is it the first thing you clowns do is go after me and what I know? This is the second of third time in this thread. You don't have shiat on me cuz. Trust me. Leave me out of it and talk about the article. I'm not the subject of the piece.




You might even be an eskimo in French Guiana, for all I care. You are patently clueles about what the man had to endure, and neither the color of your skin or the GPS coordinates of where you live can erase the sheer dumbassery of your statements.

And do you know why you are called on your bullshiat? Because you spew bullshiat about stuff you know nothing about, and yet feel entitled to post assinine remarks chastising those who have to endure this level of bullshiat on their job on a daily basis.
 
2013-03-21 03:35:15 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND:Stop having opinions! You're creating dissension, and that's counter-productive. Conform. Consume. Obey.

/I've had you Farkied as "Stand-up Guy" for a long time
//see no reason to change it
///illegitimi non carborundum
 
2013-03-21 03:46:00 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: DROxINxTHExWIND:Stop having opinions! You're creating dissension, and that's counter-productive. Conform. Consume. Obey.

/I've had you Farkied as "Stand-up Guy" for a long time
//see no reason to change it
///illegitimi non carborundum


This is my Farkie for him liberal black racial angst

seems pretty accurate. I've never had to change it because that's my first impression and it's never been proven wrong.
 
2013-03-21 03:54:47 PM  
The more fame he got the more his life was in danger from the Billy the Kid effect.  Eventually one of them would have just popped him from behind.  Once you get a reputation as someone that's die-hard, people will come from all over the world to try to beat you, just ask Bruce Willis.
 
2013-03-21 03:55:28 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: DROxINxTHExWIND:Stop having opinions! You're creating dissension, and that's counter-productive. Conform. Consume. Obey.

/I've had you Farkied as "Stand-up Guy" for a long time
//see no reason to change it
///illegitimi non carborundum


Appreciate it.
 
2013-03-21 04:06:29 PM  

ManRay: JackieRabbit: They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.

I believe it is at Five Points. He is outgunned with the taser. The first video I saw where he used it, I thought "damn, now he's a sitting duck". I fully expected him to get rushed.

Actually, the GoPro is probably his best weapon.


No kidding. That camera's probably prevented him from getting a swarm beating or worse.
 
2013-03-21 04:08:15 PM  

Z1P2: The more fame he got the more his life was in danger from the Billy the Kid effect.  Eventually one of them would have just popped him from behind.  Once you get a reputation as someone that's die-hard, people will come from all over the world to try to beat you, just ask Bruce Willis.


Or the Waco Kid...

media.screened.com
 
2013-03-21 04:09:03 PM  

SmellsLikePoo: Theaetetus: Ah, misread that - guy took a swing  first and then got tased. I withdraw the criticism.

I withdraw my earlier objection.


If you're at all interested in the subject of confrontation, escalation, levels of response and so on, you should watch his videos. They are textbook examples of how to do this job right down the line from how to speak, how to respond and how to obey the law so it lands on your side 100% of the time.

I've only ever seen one mistake from him (drew a non-lethal weapon before reasonable fear) and even that was minor. He should be teaching classes to cops and security guards in every major city. He's that good. Thunder Ranch should offer him a job toot sweet, and I'm not exaggerating.
 
2013-03-21 04:29:26 PM  
He had a camera on his head? What if he was peeing at the time...
 
2013-03-21 04:47:09 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...

Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.

I found your density amusing, so consider me impressed

Amusing and impressed are not synonyms. Just an FYI. And if you're impressed by what you call stupidity, well then I guess "Idiocracy" wasn't that far off.


Just an FYI, he wasn't using them as synonyms.  I too am impressed by your stupidity (your words, not mine) You inability to distinguish "some" from "all" is rather amusing.  And FYI, those aren't synonyms either.
 
2013-03-21 04:53:46 PM  

haws83: The Muthaship: I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

In all honesty, I don't care enough to look, but wouldn't that be the time to call the cops and have her arrested for trespassing?


When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.
 
2013-03-21 04:57:03 PM  
After watching the entire video. I believe she did push him first, and when he pushed her back, she started swinging. If she was that worried about her children, she would have moved away instead of standing there posturing and throwing insults at someone trying to enforce the will of the mall itself, and probably just trying to do his job. He actually sounded rather nice, but firm up to that point. even accepting the slurs she tossed at him and telling her to move on.
 
2013-03-21 05:25:44 PM  

andychrist420: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...

Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.

I found your density amusing, so consider me impressed

Amusing and impressed are not synonyms. Just an FYI. And if you're impressed by what you call stupidity, well then I guess "Idiocracy" wasn't that far off.

Just an FYI, he wasn't using them as synonyms.  I too am impressed by your stupidity (your words, not mine) You inability to distinguish "some" from "all" is rather amusing.  And FYI, those aren't synonyms either.


You're not very funny for a comedian. Maybe that's why you're so salty.
 
2013-03-21 05:35:11 PM  

dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.


Yep.  Watched the full video.  Dude says one thing to some loud kids, suddenly has two women inches from his face yelling at him about not talking to their kids.  He even tries to ignore the situation and they just keep escalating.  Finally he tells them they're not welcome at the mall and to not enter, then goes inside.  You'd think that would be it.  A not-dumb person at that point would have just said "yeah I showed that security guard who's boss" and wandered off.  Instead the dumb baby factory not only tries to enter the mall, she starts swinging at the security guard.  Hell yeah she's going to get tased, kids or no.  Hell I'm surprised he didn't tase her about two minutes earlier in the video.
 
2013-03-21 05:37:32 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.


Stop defending thugs.  Take some goddamn responsibility for your culture, already.
 
2013-03-21 05:38:28 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Psycoholic_Slag: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

My great grandparents migrated to CA from OK during the great Dust Bowl era, lived in the same labor camp that was featured in The Grapes of Wrath, and harvested crops for a living.  EABOD you racist POS.

And I'm sure they were the nicest, colored-folk lovingest white people in Oklahoma. Now that you've stuck out in rage at the black racist, lets see you comment on one of the other biggoted things said in the thread. Since its obvious how much you despise it.


Hmmmm, I went back and read the thread from the start.  Here is the first bigoted/racist remark I came across:

DROxINxTHExWIND: "The sad part is that people actually trust this clown with their children and they probably have no idea he's a stupid ass bigot. I guess those ni&&er football players on your team are the exception, huh "coach"?"

Yep, YOU.
 
2013-03-21 05:40:08 PM  

Stinkyy: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

NO.  No it's not, It's actually quite awesome.  Thug culture in the U.S. is past critical mass, in fact, it's teetering on anarchy in slum areas such as this one.  That kid and other bystanders will know that being a raving shiat actually HAS consequences, so straighten the fark up before it's too late.  You libs miss chivalry and courtesy?  Too farking bad, you shiatbags KILLED it.

 
2013-03-21 05:51:57 PM  
Good old fark, where wearing a uniform means you can ask people to comply, tell them, and then retreat.
 
2013-03-21 06:14:24 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: He looked real broken up about it.


Yeah, I would be real broken up about losing a job that paid 50 cents above minimum wage
 
2013-03-21 06:33:03 PM  
Congratulations LiveLeak you have now been removed from my whitelist for your autoplay video.
 
2013-03-21 06:35:12 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: andychrist420: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hackhix: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?

wow, you are dense...

Dammit. I was hoping to impress you.

I found your density amusing, so consider me impressed

Amusing and impressed are not synonyms. Just an FYI. And if you're impressed by what you call stupidity, well then I guess "Idiocracy" wasn't that far off.

Just an FYI, he wasn't using them as synonyms.  I too am impressed by your stupidity (your words, not mine) You inability to distinguish "some" from "all" is rather amusing.  And FYI, those aren't synonyms either.

You're not very funny for a comedian. Maybe that's why you're so salty.


I'm sorry, maybe if I put on a fat suit made a bunch of hacky stereotypical jokes over and over, you might enjoy it more.  Besides, if you don't know the definition of a synonym, you wouldn't get my jokes anyway.

/salty?  am I a sea dog?
//actually just ate potato chips, so you might be right
///thought about ignore, but your stupidity is too entertaining
 
2013-03-21 06:36:28 PM  
Attitude and Authority.
Curious chit, they are.
Fools think they can just claim or pin some on when in fact both must be earned the long, hard way, no shortcuts.

/the biggest idiots think authority can be "taught"
 
2013-03-21 06:45:40 PM  
Dro, seriously you are doing a disservice to yourself and your cause.

First of all, most Farkers ridicule and laugh at racists and other bigots. Most of the bigoted comments you refer to are by known trolls who have long since been ignored.

Secondly, we do our best not to encourage trolls. Haven't you been paying attention at the rising number of people calling for simply ignoring WBC?

Third, there were roughtly 350k slave owners in the US historically. Southern states had between 30%-50% ownership, northern states much less. The point here is, most Americans living in the modern day cannot trace their roots to that time. Of those that can, odds are, their ancestors were not slave owners. As for my ancestors, they were too busy with the Ottomans at the time to care about you and yours.

Fourth, you seem to forget that a very small percentage of slaves that made it here were actually caught by the evil white man. They were caught, bagged, tagged, and sold by their brothers, but hey, blame the white man.

The screwed up thing is you don't seem like an idiot,  matter of fact, you seem fairly intelligent. Sadly you use the tactics and arguments of idiots and trolls, so don't blame us for treating you as such.
 
2013-03-21 06:49:01 PM  
Forgot one point.
Don't blame me for what my father/grandfather/etc... did. You will never see me try to capture any glory for any great deeds my ancestry may have perpetrated, similarly I do not want any blame for any bad deeds.
Judge me as a man on the merit of my deeds.

Hopefully you can understand at least that, it seems what you are arguing for while shooting yourself in the foot playing the victim.
 
2013-03-21 06:50:20 PM  
Well, that's the way it usually goes. You get someone actually determined to do his job and everyone starts worrying about liability and decrease in sales and -- poof! -- he's gone.

In a short time they'll be worrying about the liability and loss of sales due to the drug dealers and thieves coming back and complaining about the increase in store theft not to mention intimidation of prospective customers by the surly morons hanging around outside.

I once worked at a department store in a small mall and we were NOT allowed to chase thieves down -- because they might sue. (The news back then was full of a case where a thief had sued a store he stole from because the employee who chased him down used 'unnecessary force' to stop him.)

Many a security guard at malls have told me they're actually not allowed to do anything to catch a thief because of the real chance of the mall being sued.

Years ago, my older brother was a cop, a rookie, and took a second job at a convenience store, being newly married, just out of the military and a kid on the way. His boss informed him that cop or not, he was NOT allowed to bring his weapon in the store and NOT allowed to use a weapon if he was being held up.

He wore his backup weapon instead, strapped to his ankle. He told me that if it came down to his being shot for the money in that crappy store or blowing the thief away, he was going to do the latter. Even if it cost him his job.

I do love the part in the article where store owners were complaining about drops in sales and blaming it on the guard. I guess thugs and thieves spend money also. They obviously didn't consider shrinkage -- the amount a store looses yearly from theft.

When a mall turns into a street hangout, it isn't long before shops start closing because no one wants to go shopping somewhere that they have to argue just to get into. They don't want to eat at the dining area and listen to foul mouthed thugs squabbling away over everything and they don't want to run the chance of being harassed just trying to use the toilet. (Seemingly a favorite place for obnoxious thugs to hang out.)

Depending on the neighborhood, a security guard has to act in the way the locals understand. If they're used to mouthing off at each other, then you need to mouth off at them.

I know two malls which closed because they got taken over by street thugs and security was not allowed to do their jobs. So, several million bucks went down the drain because the owners were afraid of lawyers.

I do know of a chain grocery store in a real bad neighborhood which bolted one of the two entrances shut, to limit access and exit, put a lifeguard-like tower in front so security could watch the parking lot and hired in aggressive, armed security.

That place has been open for over 20 years now. They've managed to chase out the usual slackers who congregated in the parking lot and pi$$ed everyone off, have no problem chasing down and catching purse snatchers who liked to target single women going to their cars and a few hard core fellows with big mouths discovered that Security had no problem with taking them behind the store and beating the shiat out of them instead of calling the cops.

It seems that's all they understood. It apparently worked.

I used to deliver there now and then. I met the security guards and you just KNEW they didn't tolerate any shiat. I drove past the place awhile back, after an absence of 10 years, and to my surprise, found it still there, the lifeguard stand still in place and still doing a brisk business.

A couple of other stores in the area without such a hard core attitude were closed and boarded up.
 
2013-03-21 07:58:45 PM  

The Muthaship: haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.

I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.


Then you call the po-po and have a trespass issued. You DO NOT TOUCH people as a security guard.

Still, Atlanta PD is probably hiring and this would make a great resume.
 
2013-03-21 08:00:44 PM  

PsyLord: insano: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

Come on. you're trolling right? They did this guy a favor letting him go. I feel sorry for the replacement who gets to deal with the 'innocent bystanders' and probably has to do it without a taser.

Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods.  I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking.  Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 296x255]

/not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up


Not racist at all. I actually make mooing sounds and snort like a cow whenever I have to walk around the crowds of a mall.
 
2013-03-21 09:21:03 PM  

ReverendJynxed: The Muthaship: haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.

I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

Then you call the po-po and have a trespass issued. You DO NOT TOUCH people as a security guard.

Still, Atlanta PD is probably hiring and this would make a great resume.


You need to watch his videos. The man is a past master and is ALWAYS in the right. In the tasering of the mom, she had been assaulting him and threatening for almost ten minutes. The police were already called. He didn't touch her once, and only shoved her after she chest bumped him, and  tasered her after she escalated to battery and punched him three times in the head.

He is A
MAZ ING at this.
 
2013-03-21 09:21:47 PM  
The Muthaship: haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.

I'm sure the clip of the incident between the woman and the guard is still out there somewhere.  You might want to watch it.  He spent a long time just trying to get her to leave by asking.

Then you call the po-po and have a trespass issued. You DO NOT TOUCH people as a security guard.

Still, Atlanta PD is probably hiring and this would make a great resume.


You need to watch his videos. The man is a past master and is ALWAYS in the right. In the tasering of the mom, she had been assaulting him and threatening for almost ten minutes. The police were already called. He didn't touch her once, and only shoved her after she chest bumped him, and  tasered her after she escalated to battery and punched him three times in the head.

He is A
           MAZ
                   ING at this.
 
2013-03-22 01:28:14 AM  
i like how they all kinda laughed at the second guy...then got mad about it.
 
2013-03-22 05:04:15 AM  
biatch in the video went down faster than Trevon Martin.
 
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2013-03-22 06:36:39 AM  

IRQ12: He repeatedly goes in and out while they are just outside running their mouths.  Then he goes into the the "I dare you" posture about coming back in.
Restraint isn't taunting people you just kicked out.


I don't think he pushed that situation. He wasn't taking a ton of crap, but he retreated to the mall. The kids were running into the mall and he said for her to "get your children". That gave her permission to get them even if she had to enter the mall, but Instead of gathering her kids, both women got in his face again, screaming, and he pushed one back out of the mall. She came in swinging, but he had to take a couple swings and separate before he could discharge the taser, or he would've zapped himself.

The guy that came in after and asked "are you trippin'? In front of my babies?" was pretty pissed, but I bet he was secretly laughing that his woman got herself in trouble instead of him for once.
 
2013-03-22 10:05:48 AM  

Luse: Don't blame me for what my father/grandfather/etc... did. You will never see me try to capture any glory for any great deeds my ancestry may have perpetrated, similarly I do not want any blame for any bad deeds.


upload.wikimedia.org

The Klingon community frowns on your attitude...
 
2013-03-22 05:47:27 PM  

RobSeace: Luse: Don't blame me for what my father/grandfather/etc... did. You will never see me try to capture any glory for any great deeds my ancestry may have perpetrated, similarly I do not want any blame for any bad deeds.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 270x199]

The Klingon community frowns on your attitude...


probably a good thing we dont live on qo'nos then huh?
 
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