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2013-03-21 11:34:05 AM  
What is the guy holding the camera phone doing with his other hand at 1:18?  Did he pop a boner or something?
 
2013-03-21 11:36:17 AM  

zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s


Full of white people?
 
2013-03-21 11:37:00 AM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
DROxINxTHExWIND: His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him


When the women swung at him it became about protection.


Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Next time, just say "THIS".

No it isn't.  The whole confrontation was because hew was trying to "enforce his will" (I would call it do his farking job, which you seem to be against).  The taser helps him do that because the peopel he is dealing with are acting like savages.

I'm not going to get drawn in with the dog whistles so you can save your keystrokes. As far as my point, yes, the guard was there to forcefully remove the men from the property when that is a job for the police. My first job was in a CVS that was connected to a mall called Capital Plaza in Maryland. We caught shoplifters all of the time and we would turn them over to mall security, who would turn them over to the police. The mall cops had very strict guidelines on what they could and could not do. They were not to initiate any sort of confrontation and that included being disrespectful to potential customers who they thought were up to no good. If they felt a situation was getting out of hand they were to protect themselves until they were able to call the real police. You can;t go around ordering folks around and tasering them when they dont respond to your threats...if you're a damned mall cop.

Must have been rough handling those teenage girls after you caught them shoplifting in the burbs.



I see someone doesn't know where Capital Plaza was.

/Hint: You know all of those Farkers from Maryland who cry about how horrible PG County is?
 
2013-03-21 11:38:43 AM  

JackieRabbit: haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.

I just looked Metro Mall up. It is south of Five Points, which can be a rough area -- a lot of crime and violence. The owners of the mall hired this guy specifically to be aggressive because the thugs were ruining their business. The vendors have been vacating because the place has become too dangerous.


Looks like an afterschool job opened up for him:

tshirtvortex.net
 
2013-03-21 11:39:03 AM  

JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.


Earlier  reports said it's near the Capitol.

People donated $20K to this guy for "additional equipment."
 
2013-03-21 11:41:18 AM  

PsyLord: Maybe they can give the new security people cattle prods. I've always thought those things were pretty menacing looking. Not sure which I rather face: a cattle prod or a taser.


With the prod, they have to close to melee distance. The taser is a ranged (albiet limited) weapon. I'll take the prod.  Besides, if it's just a regular cattle prod, you can just grab the shaft and avoid getting zapped by the pointy ends. Now if it's a stun baton, grabbing it will give you the same shock. Either way, the futher away from your opponent you can do battle, the better (preferably from Low Earth Orbit). Remember, if you're in a fair fight, you didn't plan correctly.
 
2013-03-21 11:42:17 AM  

PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up


After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.
 
2013-03-21 11:42:46 AM  

haws83: The Muthaship: Go watch the whole video.  And did you not notice her taking a swing at him?


I saw him shove her first.  Looks like he was overly aggressive and a poor fit for a job interacting with the public.  Seemed like he went out of his way to escalate situations.


Video editing is a subtle art.  You should see the "hero" footage.
 
2013-03-21 11:46:47 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I'm not going to get drawn in with the dog whistles so you can save your keystrokes.


If you are hearing dog whistles from em you are imagining things.

DROxINxTHExWIND: As far as my point, yes, the guard was there to forcefully remove the men from the property when that is a job for the police. My first job was in a CVS that was connected to a mall called Capital Plaza in Maryland. We caught shoplifters all of the time and we would turn them over to mall security, who would turn them over to the police. The mall cops had very strict guidelines on what they could and could not do. They were not to initiate any sort of confrontation and that included being disrespectful to potential customers who they thought were up to no good. If they felt a situation was getting out of hand they were to protect themselves until they were able to call the real police. You can;t go around ordering folks around and tasering them when they dont respond to your threats...if you're a damned mall cop


Go watchs oem of his videos.  This isn't a corporate run CVS.  This isn't in a suburb.  He has posted 10+ minute long brawls where the cops don't show.

DROxINxTHExWIND: I fail to see the contradiction. The first was a comment on a personal attack. The second was my opinion that since we do not know the people in the video personally there is no way that we can accurately guess how they would react had things been done differently.


You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).
 
2013-03-21 11:48:18 AM  
It's a bad crowd there. Lots of ghetto trash.

The Obama kids here say you deal with people like that with a hug and a check. That figures.
 
2013-03-21 11:48:57 AM  
Sad indeed.  That guy deserves way more pay and the hero tag.
 
2013-03-21 11:49:37 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.


They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"
 
2013-03-21 11:53:24 AM  
liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?
 
2013-03-21 11:53:43 AM  

ThisIsntMe: JackieRabbit: White People reporting on Brown People problems....

They don't say what part of Atlanta this mall is in, but in some areas, a taser would be lightweight.

It's not a mall. It's an old building repurposed and rented to vendors to sell things out of. More like a Flea Market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk


Holy shiat.  Now THAT was educational.  Who in the fark would dare defend the behavior of that crazy biatch?
 
2013-03-21 11:55:47 AM  
DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.
 
2013-03-21 11:59:19 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet


That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...
 
2013-03-21 12:00:17 PM  
Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?
 
2013-03-21 12:01:52 PM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.


LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it
 
2013-03-21 12:03:29 PM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...


Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.
 
2013-03-21 12:06:02 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.


Personally, I find both generalizations idiotic.  You don't fight derp with even more derp, Dro.
 
2013-03-21 12:06:08 PM  
RESPONSIBLE

GUN

OWNER
 
2013-03-21 12:07:00 PM  

chknjetski: Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?


Hmmm, a bit more range based on his work in a few threads, but he lacks the pure amusement value of Bevets (and the ability to pull out links to insane sites).
 
2013-03-21 12:09:01 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: snocone:
You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.

And you seem like a tough guy whose been around and who knows a thing or two about all of the evil in the world. I wish the internet had a phrase for guys who are as tough as you. Something that we could shorten into an acronym.


Putz.
Should have stayed w first instinct.
 
2013-03-21 12:10:41 PM  

GanjSmokr: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.

Personally, I find both generalizations idiotic.  You don't fight derp with even more derp, Dro.


I'm not. I'm applying their logic in the opposite direction to show how stupid it is. Then, I ask them why one generalizatin is ok while the other is not. What I have come to realize is that many of them see white people as individuals and they view other minorities as charicatures of a million different stereotypes. When a white man robs a liquor store, Farkers speak about how terrible the man is. When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference.
 
2013-03-21 12:10:42 PM  

ha-ha-guy: chknjetski: Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?

Hmmm, a bit more range based on his work in a few threads, but he lacks the pure amusement value of Bevets (and the ability to pull out links to insane sites).


don't forget the 'quotes from others to prove a point'.  that guy was a master at using the quotes off his blog site as proof of everything.  DRO isn't even remotely close to that legend status.
 
2013-03-21 12:10:50 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it


So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.
 
2013-03-21 12:11:53 PM  

mbillips: snocone: DROxINxTHExWIND: spicorama: DROxINxTHExWIND: dukeblue219: kumanoki: With the sound off, it just looks like someone with a taser threatening innocent bystanders.

It...what? It is?

*sound on*

The sound of the kids screaming when he knocks the woman out the door is heartbreaking.

He's a mall security guard actually doing his job and trying to keep some semblance of order in the place. Or would you rather just let folks run all over your business, selling drugs and robbing you left and right, scaring away customers. No, not because they're black, but because that's what happens in this part of Atlanta.

If we're talking about the same video that woman had it coming, and her kids were completely out of control yelling at the guard before it escalated. Nobody was an innocent bystander in the one I'm remembering.

His job isn't to threaten and then use force. That taser is there for his PROTECTION, not for him to enforce his will. Paul Blart was supposed to call the REAL police in the second situation. He was not in any immediate danger in the second clip. He may have been within his rights to use it on the woman because she was assulting him.

You didn't see the guy that got tased walk up to him and take a swing?

That right there is grounds for him to defend himself.

/I can't wait for his inevitable truetv show.

Didn't realize he swung. But that was after Blart came over there like Mr. Toughie talking about "get out". If he had grounds for them to be removed from the property there was a way to handle that without it escalating like it did. He was already cranked up to eleven when he approached them.

You seem to lack any real world experience upon which to base your crappy derp.
That mall is a war zone. You start at 11 and escalate.

You ever been in a war zone? Like, a combat zone? 99 percent of the time, everything's all calm; security dude's Youtubes are just the 1 percent when the shiat hits the fan. I wouldn't have the slightest hesitation in shoppin ...


Why, yes I have, fool.
Do you ever read bios?
I am that guy, somebody had to be it.
 
2013-03-21 12:12:23 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"


If you were taught this from a young age, you could feel naturally feel entitled to do just about anything you want.  That sort of upbringing by incredibly ignorant parents would give a kid a built in excuse for every failure and a built in excuse for every criminal act - "just gettin what should be mine".     I'm white and I was born with jack shiat, as were my parents and their parents and their parents.  I don't know anyone who received any kind of handme down wealth that goes back past the hard work of their own parents.   You have benefited from slavery more than I have.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
2013-03-21 12:13:52 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: GanjSmokr: DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.

Personally, I find both generalizations idiotic.  You don't fight derp with even more derp, Dro.

I'm not. I'm applying their logic in the opposite direction to show how stupid it is. Then, I ask them why one generalizatin is ok while the other is not. What I have come to realize is that many of them see white people as individuals and they view other minorities as charicatures of a million different stereotypes. When a white man robs a liquor store, Farkers speak about how terrible the man is. When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference.


You asked me no such question.  You assumed that I didn't oppose it in a desperate attempt to set me up as a strawman that you can tackle like oh so many of those teenage shoplifters back in the day.  Now, you are beginning to lie.   You are a sad sad person.  You certainly won't get over it.  It's your only refuge from the knowledge that you are full of crap.
 
2013-03-21 12:14:13 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?


This guy is a paragon of virtue on almost every front, confrontationally. He is the opposite of tacticool and follows every rule of engagement written and unwritten. He falls down on basically trying to shovel shiat uphill and being a total pollyanna, but I have watched a lot of his(admittedly handpicked) vidyas and there is no grounds for criticism other than pick your battles, dude, maybe you could let some slingin' slide if they aren't harassing anyone.

But yeah, he is calm, polite, non-violent, to the bitter end. He said somewhere that he doesn't call the cops until its life-threatening because a) they never show up and b) it loses him brownie points with the community
 
2013-03-21 12:14:17 PM  
The punk has a hell of a mouth on him, and so do all the people he is dealing with.

If anyone had done me that way, I would take it up personally with the CEO of the corporation that owns the mall---no lawyers, no nothing, just hash it out man to man.

They know what happens with the jury system, and they don't like it.
 
2013-03-21 12:15:55 PM  

Big_Fat_Liar: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

If you were taught this from a young age, you could feel naturally feel entitled to do just about anything you want.  That sort of upbringing by incredibly ignorant parents would give a kid a built in excuse for every failure and a built in excuse for every criminal act - "just gettin what should be mine".     I'm white and I was born with jack shiat, as were my parents and their parents and their parents.  I don't know anyone who received any kind of handme down wealth that goes back past the hard work of their own parents.   You have benefited from slavery more than I have.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


Vaping is safer and much healthier.
 
2013-03-21 12:16:26 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet

That is right dro, most white people in the US have great grandparents who owned slaves...

Oh, that generalization bothers you but the one about all black people being "handed" money for decades was cool. I got you.


No it isn't cool, but he didn't call me out for "dogwhistles" (which there are plenty of in this thread).


DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76:
You fail to understand he has hours of video and your ideas don't work (he is on video trying them).

Ok,. I got you now. You're saying that the clip is just the latest in a long string of videos showing him dealing with the people who he confronted?


If you ever sit down and watch full exchanges he starts out politely or he starts out by reminding them have been told theyw eren't allowed here.

The amount of restraint he shows when dealing with people that act like what he posted is going to make me give him the benefit of the doubt.

And at the end of the day a security guard doesn't have to be nice.  He doesn't have to be polite.  If you don't like it don't shop there.  If you act like a thug when he isn't polite enough for you, me calling them out as being thugs isn't a "dogwhistle".
 
2013-03-21 12:18:41 PM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it

So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.


I never said you had anything in you. I simply stated the facts. The comment about blacks dependence on welfare creating a sense of entitlement was posted BEFORE my comment. You scrolled right past it and took issue with what I said, which leads me to believe that it didn't bother you. The mistake that you're making is in thinking that there is anything to get over. The President is black. I have a good job and the skills to get another. I wasn't denied the purchase of my home because of race. I'm good. Jousting with you all about your perceptions of black people isn't as serious as you all like to make it. At the end of the day, I'm not going to make some computer warrior decide that blacks are A-OK with anything that I post. But, I can expose the flaws in the logic that causes him toview us that way. I'll be ok and you will too. Oh, that's the second time that you've tried to drop the mic and sign off. It only works if you stop responding.
 
2013-03-21 12:21:19 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference


And when a black person gets inot a tustle for not leaving a mall when a securioty guard asks you blame the guard for not being polite enough, not the black guy for not listening.
 
2013-03-21 12:25:47 PM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference

And when a black person gets inot a tustle for not leaving a mall when a securioty guard asks you blame the guard for not being polite enough, not the black guy for not listening.


Its easier to make your point when you act like I didn't say that he was justified in tasing the woman.

/has nothing to do with race for me.
 
2013-03-21 12:27:37 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: When a black person robs a liquor store, Farkers get into a debate about social services, culture, and race. I just question the difference

And when a black person gets inot a tustle for not leaving a mall when a securioty guard asks you blame the guard for not being polite enough, not the black guy for not listening.

Its easier to make your point when you act like I didn't say that he was justified in tasing the woman.

/has nothing to do with race for me.


I am sorry were you or were you not the guy calling out how he behaved towards them?

It has everything to do with race, other wise you wouldn't be pulling dogwhistles out of your ass in response to me.
 
2013-03-21 12:28:01 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it

So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.

I never said you had anything in you. I simply stated the facts. The comment about blacks dependence on welfare creating a sense of entitlement was posted BEFORE my comment. You scrolled right past it and took issue with what I said, which leads me to believe that it didn't bother you. The mistake that you're making is in thinking that there is anything to get over. The President is black. I have a good job and the skills to get another. I wasn't denied the purchase of my home because of race. I'm good. Jousting with you all about your perceptions of black people isn't as serious as you all like to make it. At the end of the day, I'm not going to make some computer warrior decide that blacks are A-OK with anything that I post. But, I can expose the flaws in the logic that causes him toview us that way. I'll be ok and you will too. Oh, that's the second time that you've tried to drop the mic and sign off. It only works if you stop responding.


Leads you to believe...there you go.  You have no desire to actually engage in conversation with others.  This is your problem.  You see what you want to see.  There will always be monsters for you. You can't live without them.   You are an interesting person for just this fact and only this fact alone.
 
2013-03-21 12:29:36 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: JustGetItRight: DROxINxTHExWIND: Thats not what he said. He said the mall was going downhill financially and that two stores were leaving. He did not say that it was closing because of "thugs".

Anatomy of a mall closure  (at least in the city where I work).

Thugs start showing up, fighting in the halls, pulling the odd robbery, and generally causing trouble.
Customers begin to stay away.
Businesses leave.
More customers stay away.
More businesses leave.
Mall closes.

One mall is now closed. 

The second just lost one of it's biggest draws - a modern 8 screen cinema.   It is following the exact same path as the first.  A decade from now, it will be closed too.

Right. And no one shops on-line or goes to big variety stores like Walmart and Target. Its all because the thugs scared people away. Nowadays, many malls would LOVE for some thugs to come in because they'll be the only ones in the place. The mall where I used to live in Laurel, MD would routinely have more employees in the place during business hours than actual customers. Can't blame the thugs because there aren't any in Laurel.


You're kidding, right? I lived right behind that mall and during that one year, a little old lady working at the McDonald's next door to it got beaten up and robbed, the Giant Foods next to it was locked down due to a hostage situation (from which the guy escaped), and robberies were routine in the parking garage blocking the view from the street. Thank GOD they tore it down. My best friend was a paramedic at Laurel Volunteer Rescue Squad (now HoCo), and he has way more stories.
 
2013-03-21 12:32:04 PM  

liam76: Malls have been getting crushed by strip malls again for quite some time. With on-line shopping there is just that much less draw. The "thugs" are just a tiny part of the problem for most malls.



In our case, the thug factor is much bigger than a tiny part.  The closed mall was the site of numerous high profile fights and robbery incidents.  Families wouldn't take their kids to it.

The current mall is following the same path.  People don't go to that theater because they don't want to be in the mall after dark.  Sure, it faces the same challenges all brick and mortar shops do when compared to online merchants, but otherwise has a ton to offer vs strip malls.

It is easily accessible from a traffic standpoint and it has family friendly items, including a carousel and ice skating rink.  There aren't many places in Alabama where you can ever watch or participate in ice skating.  If any venue could survive, this is it.

What it cannot survive are stories like these:
http://www.waka.com/news/montgomery-news/Chuck-E-Cheeses-To-Open--19 88 65111.html
Note that this should be a positive story, but those quoted and in the comments just talk about the fights (thugs).

http://centralmontgomery.wsfa.com/news/crime/199941-officials-confir m- fight-gunshots-fired-outside-eastdale-mall

http://www.waka.com/home/top-stories/Man-in-Critical-Condition-after -S hooting-Outside-Eastdale-Mall-139326303.html

http://www.wncftv.com/news/video/Montgomery-Police-Dispute-Witness-C la ims-of-Shots-Fired-in-Eastdale-Mall-165215626.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMhRPr6_-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fikc0Iry8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zN16PAYsiI

http://www.ktre.com/story/13352401/two-suspects-caught-after-robbery -o f-91-year-old

These took 5 minutes to find.  If I searched the local news sites, I could triple the incidents just within the last couple of years.
 
2013-03-21 12:35:10 PM  

Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnus: DROxINxTHExWIND:

They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

Sadly, this seems to be a constant theme for you.  There is no room for discussion with you.  If anyone disagrees with you, you go this route.  Hopefully, one day, you will expand your horizons.  Good luck to you.

LOL. Thankfully, you're not saddened by Farkers suggesting that all black people are on welfare and the reason they act like they do is because of government handouts, as the gentleman that I was responding to suggested, because you'd be suicidal.


/You'll get over it

So, you're default is to assume I have a heady load of bigotry and racism within me?  You are part of the problem that you profess to oppose.   I don't see you being able to get over it.  Good luck to you.

I never said you had anything in you. I simply stated the facts. The comment about blacks dependence on welfare creating a sense of entitlement was posted BEFORE my comment. You scrolled right past it and took issue with what I said, which leads me to believe that it didn't bother you. The mistake that you're making is in thinking that there is anything to get over. The President is black. I have a good job and the skills to get another. I wasn't denied the purchase of my home because of race. I'm good. Jousting with you all about your perceptions of black people isn't as serious as you all like to make it. At the end of the day, I'm not going to make some computer warrior decide that blacks are A-OK with anything that I post. But, I can expose the flaws in the logic that causes him toview us that way. I'll be ok and you will too. Oh, that's the second time that you've tried to drop the mic and sign off. It only works if you stop responding.

Leads you to believe...there you g ...


I'm still waiting for you to comment about any of the racist statements against blacks in this thread. I won't hold my breathe though. But you're mighty gung ho about how racist and insensitive I am.

/Yeah, leads me to believe...
 
2013-03-21 12:39:14 PM  
I tend to ignore the racists and bigots so I don't see their comments...well, except for you.  But, thanks for assuming that I do see them or that I because I don't engage every idiot in here that my desire to not respond is somehow indicative of my tacit approval.

You can't even see how wrong you are.  I won't be holding my breath for you either.
 
2013-03-21 12:41:03 PM  

mbillips: kumanoki: mbillips: And what says "gang" about that crowd to you? Those dudes are too old to be gang bangers. I mean, sure, anybody hanging around a shiathole like that in the middle of the day is likely to be involved in some kinda bent activity, since they don't have a job, but that doesn't equal "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle."

If you are WASPy, everything about this video says "violence imminent, remain in your vehicle".

I'm a 51-year-old white dude who lives in the suburbs. But I've been around. I think that mall cop's problem is he starts out with the tough guy stuff, without working up to it. An actual cop buddy of mine said that he always started out acting nice to people he was going to have to order around, because you can always scale up to hardass. If you start out hardass and that doesn't work, you're stuck; you can't back down to nice.

People are people. There are techniques to managing uneducated people who may have a certain moral flexibility about other's property rights, and barking orders at them generally doesn't work too well.


I am in corrections and I agree 100%. You get much further with a shock shield and a smile than you do with a shock shield.

/not kidding
 
2013-03-21 12:50:32 PM  
This guy should not ever be allowed to have a weapon.
 
2013-03-21 01:02:24 PM  
Eh. Come to Detroit.
 
2013-03-21 01:13:41 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Eh. Come to Detroit.


The point is that I don't want Atlanta to become Detroit.
 
2013-03-21 01:15:40 PM  

ManRay: spicorama: Ummm... That and the fact he pulled out a real gun shortly after shooting his tased. I have no doubt he would have shot someone dead if they had rushed him. They knew it too.

I couldn't tell what the second weapon was that he pulled out. I figured if it was a gun then that just escelate things even farther. This guy is lucky he got fired, the way he was headed someone was going to get him soon when the cameras were not on.


zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s...one long strip of stores that you could enter without having to go "into" the mall. They were fun, successful and easy to get to the store you wanted. Then someone wanted to enclose everything and malls have failed since.

There are already several open air "malls" built around here in the last few years. In fact, it is one of the reasons some some of the enclosed malls are dying on the vine.


Well, that's karma, because enclosed malls killed the air malls.
 
2013-03-21 01:16:45 PM  

vudukungfu: zabadu: Personally, I'd like to see "malls" go back to how they were in the 1960s-70s

Full of white people?


No, I grew up in a racially diverse time and place.
 
2013-03-21 01:16:46 PM  

chknjetski: Is  DROxINxTHExWINDthe black Bevets? Can someone make a summoning card?


I LOL'd.  Holy shiat.
 
2013-03-21 01:19:27 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Nutsac_Jim: PsyLord: /not being racist with that comment, just that if someone has a cattle prod and is waving it at me, I'd back the hell up

After one gets paid for a decade or two simply for the trait of existing, some people get an increased level of value and just don't like being told what to do, no matter on whose property they are located.


They should have been blessed to have great grandparents who were slave holders. Then they could have gotten some generational wealth and they'd be the ones who could look down on people they've oppressed and ask, "why haven't you caught up yet?"

My great grandparents migrated to CA from OK during the great Dust Bowl era, lived in the same labor camp that was featured in The Grapes of Wrath, and harvested crops for a living.  EABOD you racist POS.
 
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