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(Ars Technica)   Not news: Camera manufacturer doesn't like product review. News: Sends out DMCA takedown notice. FARK: Citing trademark, not copyright, infringement. UltraFARK: The backtracking statement is even worse   (arstechnica.com) divider line 34
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2013-03-20 08:17:15 PM
This headline is hilarious!
 
2013-03-20 08:30:01 PM
Perhaps people will wise up and choose not to buy their shiatty product.
 
2013-03-20 08:30:14 PM
GoPro?  More like GoFark yourself, am I right?
 
2013-03-20 08:39:38 PM
I for one don't trust review sites when they have monetized links or links to buy the product reviewed, which is all of them.  This is why you don't get a glowing review of a Valentine One on the internet, because the review sites cannot monetize the traffic, because Valentine doesn't have an affiliate program and do not sell through resellers.  V1 is always in "second place" to a unit the site is monetizing through paid affiliate link, etc.
 
2013-03-20 08:56:04 PM
Their "clarification" is total BS. For one their original takedown notice gave the specific URL of the review, not a product page in an online store. Secondly if an online store is using an "incorrect" image why not just email them rather than pay a lawyer to send a DMCA takedown notice to their ISP?
 
2013-03-20 08:56:34 PM

bronyaur1: Perhaps people will wise up and choose not to buy their shiatty product.


I'd been thinking about getting one for sailing and diving photography and video, as well as any other random use I could come up with. Now? Not a chance. GoPro just lost themselves a potential customer.

Can anyone recommend any decent alternatives? Looking for waterproof (up to ~40m), shockproof, etc Basically want something that is durable as hell enough to survive the elements.

/yeah yeah, I'm sure they're really heartbroken about one guy not buying their stuff
 
2013-03-20 10:18:46 PM
I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.
 
2013-03-20 10:22:59 PM
TFA mentions a competing Sony product.
 
2013-03-20 10:33:26 PM

mamoru: bronyaur1: Perhaps people will wise up and choose not to buy their shiatty product.

I'd been thinking about getting one for sailing and diving photography and video, as well as any other random use I could come up with. Now? Not a chance. GoPro just lost themselves a potential customer.

Can anyone recommend any decent alternatives? Looking for waterproof (up to ~40m), shockproof, etc Basically want something that is durable as hell enough to survive the elements.

/yeah yeah, I'm sure they're really heartbroken about one guy not buying their stuff


The article says the review was a comparison between GoPro and a Sony camera, so look at that one... It's a Sony HDR AS15.
 
2013-03-20 10:35:00 PM
Taking Copyright and PR trolling to a new level.
 
2013-03-20 10:39:40 PM
Yea this go pro yourself camera looks like a cheap knockoff anyways.
The lcd screen is crap and the yellow will make you a target for muggers
Even the name label looks like some drunk MoFo printed it.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-20 10:40:16 PM
GoPro employes are a bunch of scum, news at 11
 
2013-03-20 10:43:19 PM
Submit a counter-declaration.  Your move.

If you submit a counter-declaration to a DMCA claim, you're basically doubling down and saying, "Nope, sorry.  We think we're right.  Sue us if you disagree."  Since the case is obviously in favor of the reviewer, GoPro wouldn't sue, because they'd have to pay both sides' lawyers.

/not a lawyer
 
2013-03-20 11:05:17 PM

Myria: Submit a counter-declaration.  Your move.

If you submit a counter-declaration to a DMCA claim, you're basically doubling down and saying, "Nope, sorry.  We think we're right.  Sue us if you disagree."  Since the case is obviously in favor of the reviewer, GoPro wouldn't sue, because they'd have to pay both sides' lawyers.

/not a lawyer


FTFA:  hosting provider Softlayer caved immediately and insisted the page be taken down

There's no way that service provider would get in the middle of any litigation.

GoPro's lawyers:  Hey, Softlayer, nice hosting service you got here.  Shame if anything were to happen to it.
 
2013-03-20 11:14:59 PM

ShawnDoc: TFA mentions a competing Sony product.


Oh, that's much better.
 
2013-03-20 11:36:05 PM

ShawnDoc: TFA mentions a competing Sony product.


Sony is even worse
 
2013-03-20 11:46:12 PM
They should take a SomethingAwful-style approach and put the review back up, but all the photos are replaced by drawings of dicks.
 
2013-03-20 11:48:16 PM
Take a picture, it'll last longer . . .
 
2013-03-21 12:03:37 AM

The Ocho: I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.


Contour.
 
2013-03-21 12:37:01 AM
Is this the best that Fark can come up with for business links?  Starting to wonder if I should even click that tab.
 
2013-03-21 01:07:30 AM

MithrandirBooga: The Ocho: I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.

Contour.


I've got a Contour GPS model and it's a great camera.

store.contour.com
 
2013-03-21 01:27:45 AM
Redditors are charbroiling the company's bullshiat and feeding the ashes back to it. :-)

Gigantic Fark YOU to the hosting company that doesn't require a legal takedown notice.
 
2013-03-21 01:53:25 AM
Ron Paul apparently tried to pull the same student last year, where he tried to sue a youtube video for trademark violation because they used the phrase "Vote for Ron Paul!" without his permission.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120309/15211018059/sorry-ron-paul -y ou-dont-get-to-abuse-trademark-law-to-unveil-anonymous-internet-users. shtml

Apparently, anyone on the internet who has ever used the phrase "Vote for Ron Paul" without permission is liable for a lawsuit.  Including me.
 
2013-03-21 03:33:47 AM

RightWingWacko: MithrandirBooga: The Ocho: I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.

Contour.

I've got a Contour GPS model and it's a great camera.

[store.contour.com image 291x220]


Oh, those look nice! And water-proof down to 60m with the waterproof case (and otherwise generally waterproof without the case; just can't go so deep)! I might have to look into one of those this weekend. Thanks. :)
 
2013-03-21 06:01:51 AM

Ryan2065: mamoru: bronyaur1: Perhaps people will wise up and choose not to buy their shiatty product.

I'd been thinking about getting one for sailing and diving photography and video, as well as any other random use I could come up with. Now? Not a chance. GoPro just lost themselves a potential customer.

Can anyone recommend any decent alternatives? Looking for waterproof (up to ~40m), shockproof, etc Basically want something that is durable as hell enough to survive the elements.

/yeah yeah, I'm sure they're really heartbroken about one guy not buying their stuff

The article says the review was a comparison between GoPro and a Sony camera, so look at that one... It's a Sony HDR AS15.


Yeah but then you're buying a Sony. Given the choice between one stupid DMCA take down and everything Sony has done. (Root Kit, etc) I'm going to go with the DMCA.
 
2013-03-21 10:57:17 AM

RightWingWacko: MithrandirBooga: The Ocho: I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.

Contour.

I've got a Contour GPS model and it's a great camera.

[store.contour.com image 291x220]



That is the exact camera a was looking at buying although I'm buying it for a slightly different purpose. I simply want an external camera that I can easily connect wirelessly to my phone or tablet. I know the Contour has Bluetooth but I'm curious if you have tried it? I was wondering if the video is smooth over bluetooth. I would think it might not be a fast enough connection for a smooth high-res video.

I was also looking at the AI-Ball
http://www.thumbdrive.com/aiball/

It is not as high of quality but it looks like the video is over wi-fi so it might result in overall smoother video on the tablet.
 
2013-03-21 12:19:46 PM

Robert Farker: RightWingWacko: MithrandirBooga: The Ocho: I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.

Contour.

I've got a Contour GPS model and it's a great camera.

[store.contour.com image 291x220]


That is the exact camera a was looking at buying although I'm buying it for a slightly different purpose. I simply want an external camera that I can easily connect wirelessly to my phone or tablet. I know the Contour has Bluetooth but I'm curious if you have tried it? I was wondering if the video is smooth over bluetooth. I would think it might not be a fast enough connection for a smooth high-res video.

I was also looking at the AI-Ball
http://www.thumbdrive.com/aiball/

It is not as high of quality but it looks like the video is over wi-fi so it might result in overall smoother video on the tablet.


At least the camera I have, Bluetooth is used only to get the camera aimed in the right direction.   The bandwidth of the Bluetooth connection can't handle the HD.
 
2013-03-21 12:42:30 PM

RightWingWacko: Robert Farker: RightWingWacko: MithrandirBooga: The Ocho: I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.

Contour.

I've got a Contour GPS model and it's a great camera.

[store.contour.com image 291x220]


That is the exact camera a was looking at buying although I'm buying it for a slightly different purpose. I simply want an external camera that I can easily connect wirelessly to my phone or tablet. I know the Contour has Bluetooth but I'm curious if you have tried it? I was wondering if the video is smooth over bluetooth. I would think it might not be a fast enough connection for a smooth high-res video.

I was also looking at the AI-Ball
http://www.thumbdrive.com/aiball/

It is not as high of quality but it looks like the video is over wi-fi so it might result in overall smoother video on the tablet.

At least the camera I have, Bluetooth is used only to get the camera aimed in the right direction.   The bandwidth of the Bluetooth connection can't handle the HD.



What model do you have? The Contour+2 is supposed to improve the blutooth video but I'm still unsure how well it works for a live feed.
 
2013-03-21 12:45:10 PM
If you like ugly hardware, Go*ro is the way to go.
 
2013-03-21 05:23:31 PM

mamoru: bronyaur1: Perhaps people will wise up and choose not to buy their shiatty product.

I'd been thinking about getting one for sailing and diving photography and video, as well as any other random use I could come up with. Now? Not a chance. GoPro just lost themselves a potential customer.

Can anyone recommend any decent alternatives? Looking for waterproof (up to ~40m), shockproof, etc Basically want something that is durable as hell enough to survive the elements.

/yeah yeah, I'm sure they're really heartbroken about one guy not buying their stuff


I've been happy with my Swann Freestyle
http://www.swann.com/s/products/view/?product=1297

Took some great underwater pics last summer with it.
 
2013-03-21 07:17:16 PM

Robert Farker: RightWingWacko: Robert Farker: RightWingWacko: MithrandirBooga: The Ocho: I too would like to hear alternatives to the Go*ro camera's.

Contour.

I've got a Contour GPS model and it's a great camera.

[store.contour.com image 291x220]


That is the exact camera a was looking at buying although I'm buying it for a slightly different purpose. I simply want an external camera that I can easily connect wirelessly to my phone or tablet. I know the Contour has Bluetooth but I'm curious if you have tried it? I was wondering if the video is smooth over bluetooth. I would think it might not be a fast enough connection for a smooth high-res video.

I was also looking at the AI-Ball
http://www.thumbdrive.com/aiball/

It is not as high of quality but it looks like the video is over wi-fi so it might result in overall smoother video on the tablet.

At least the camera I have, Bluetooth is used only to get the camera aimed in the right direction.   The bandwidth of the Bluetooth connection can't handle the HD.


What model do you have? The Contour+2 is supposed to improve the blutooth video but I'm still unsure how well it works for a live feed.


Mine is the Contour GPS.    I believe the Contour+2 replaced it, so it doesn't surprise me it has better features
 
2013-03-22 12:39:33 AM

Girion47: ShawnDoc: TFA mentions a competing Sony product.

Sony is even worse


This just in: all companies suck.

I think it was a Rick Romero expose.
 
2013-03-22 06:58:20 PM

Marcus Aurelius: If you like ugly hardware, Go*ro is the way to go.


Ugly as hell but the quality is stunning, especially in bright lighting conditions. (They're not so great in low light).

The Contour Can is the closest thing GoPro have to competition, but realistically speaking, they're a distant second
 
2013-03-23 11:17:22 AM

mamoru: bronyaur1: Perhaps people will wise up and choose not to buy their shiatty product.

I'd been thinking about getting one for sailing and diving photography and video, as well as any other random use I could come up with. Now? Not a chance. GoPro just lost themselves a potential customer.

Can anyone recommend any decent alternatives? Looking for waterproof (up to ~40m), shockproof, etc Basically want something that is durable as hell enough to survive the elements.

/yeah yeah, I'm sure they're really heartbroken about one guy not buying their stuff


I've been using a DRIFT HD for several months now.  Great camera, uses a standard 1/4-20 mount and very rugged.  Doesn't look ridiculous when mounted to your helmet.
http://driftinnovation.com/camera/drift-hd/
 
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