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2013-03-20 06:57:06 PM  
Fair enough, I guess I'll just dump it the hospital's oncology department.  There.  Is that better?
 
2013-03-20 07:01:12 PM  
That reminds me of the time I dumped a bunch of dead kids in front of the asbestos factory. Good times, good times...
 
2013-03-20 07:01:59 PM  
So while there's footage showing the truck dumping the waste, the article does not say whether footage exists showing who was driving the truck at the time.  So if they do locate the truck, the owner will simply say "I wasn't driving" and that'll be that.
 
2013-03-20 07:06:31 PM  
If they find the jackass, they ought to make him snort it all.
 
2013-03-20 07:08:55 PM  

arcas: So while there's footage showing the truck dumping the waste, the article does not say whether footage exists showing who was driving the truck at the time.  So if they do locate the truck, the owner will simply say "I wasn't driving" and that'll be that.


You really need to do asbestos you can here.
 
2013-03-20 07:11:42 PM  
why dump it?  Just bag it up, and put it in peoples trash cans on garbage day.  It looks like normal garbage and residential asbestos removal doesn't require any special permitting.


/Do not do this.
//Asbestos Inspector/Supervisor/Proj Designer/NIOSH 582
 
2013-03-20 07:13:41 PM  
I don't know, from the article, it seems like he got away with it, CCTV cameras and all. Given the success of the maneuvers, I'd say it's an ideal place to dump used asbestos.
 
2013-03-20 07:21:03 PM  
"We really hope that the driver turns himself in"
Next line "He faces up to a MILLION dollar fine and up to 7 YEARS in jail."
 
2013-03-20 07:26:12 PM  
when i was still a home owner my shack was covered with asbestos shingling from the 20s. that's pretty much what I was told by the guvmint when I asked what the hell to do with it if I pulled it off. "Dig a big hole, bury it, and don't ever, ever tell anyone."
 
2013-03-20 07:29:49 PM  
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2013-03-20 07:33:27 PM  
How could it possibly cost $13k to clean that up, especially when its already outside. There is not really all that much risk from asbestos once its in an open environment. But also why would the driver even bother illegally dumping it, around here I can take asbestos to the dump at a rate of $23/ton they just ask that I call ahead so they can dig a hole for me to dump it in and bury it.
 
2013-03-20 07:34:38 PM  
What was that guy thinking? You can't just dump asbestos where people fark dead dogs!
 
2013-03-20 07:36:04 PM  
I honestly only own one asbesto, so perhaps it's not a big deal when I dump it random places.
 
2013-03-20 07:36:41 PM  

Girion47: why dump it?  Just bag it up, and put it in peoples trash cans on garbage day.  It looks like normal garbage and residential asbestos removal doesn't require any special permitting.


/Do not do this.
//Asbestos Inspector/Supervisor/Proj Designer/NIOSH 582


What I find funny is that after all of the plastic and negative pressure and careful bagging and labeling the stuff is just dumped in a landfill.
 
2013-03-20 07:40:00 PM  

PacificaFitz: "We really hope that the driver turns himself in"
Next line "He faces up to a MILLION dollar fine and up to 7 YEARS in jail."


I caught the guy who was saying, "How much does it really cost to dispose of it?"
Well of course it isn't as much as what he is facing now, but it isn't cheap when you already have started breaking laws before you even hit the streets.

I went looking, depending on how much is in your house, it would range from $500 to $35,000 for a crew to do it right.
 
2013-03-20 07:43:36 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Girion47: why dump it?  Just bag it up, and put it in peoples trash cans on garbage day.  It looks like normal garbage and residential asbestos removal doesn't require any special permitting.


/Do not do this.
//Asbestos Inspector/Supervisor/Proj Designer/NIOSH 582

What I find funny is that after all of the plastic and negative pressure and careful bagging and labeling the stuff is just dumped in a landfill.


A landfill has a much smaller population density to be affected by a fiber release.
 
2013-03-20 07:44:53 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: What I find funny is that after all of the plastic and negative pressure and careful bagging and labeling the stuff is just dumped in a landfill.


The important part is reducing the risk of breathing it in, nobody can breath it once it is buried.  I was told that as long as it can't be disturbed you are not at risk, but once you start moving and handling it that is a different story.
 
2013-03-20 07:49:34 PM  
I dump mine in front of subbys house
 
2013-03-20 08:03:09 PM  

lack of warmth: Mr. Eugenides: What I find funny is that after all of the plastic and negative pressure and careful bagging and labeling the stuff is just dumped in a landfill.

The important part is reducing the risk of breathing it in, nobody can breath it once it is buried.  I was told that as long as it can't be disturbed you are not at risk, but once you start moving and handling it that is a different story.


Yeah, I personally love asbestos to be honest, it's a wonder material, fire resistant, chemical resistant, mold resistant, high tensile strength, and it won't oxidize and break down over time.  Just getting it in loose fiber form is dangerous, an asbestos fiber can stay suspended in the air for 72 hours after it's initial disturbance.
 
2013-03-20 08:07:30 PM  
No no no this wasn't normal asbestos, it's the new pedo-repellant asbestos, he did it for the kids.
 
2013-03-20 08:09:42 PM  

Solid State Vittles: Fair enough, I guess I'll just dump it the hospital's oncology department.  There.  Is that better?


You wanna give cancer to cancer?

Clever play.
 
2013-03-20 08:11:53 PM  
Just for shiats and giggles, go watch 4:10-4:30 of this video about steel production in the us in 1936.
 
2013-03-20 08:26:48 PM  

FarkerinMN: But also why would the driver even bother illegally dumping it,


Considering all of the out-of-the-way or remote places he could have gone, it appears he was purposely targeting the preschool.  Why else would he dump it there?  Not even out back, behind where no one could see him, but practically on their doorstep.
No, he was out to exact some kind of revenge or punishment of some type.  Or thought it would be funny to think of todlers walking through asbestos.
 
2013-03-20 08:31:46 PM  

ReverendJasen: FarkerinMN: But also why would the driver even bother illegally dumping it,

Considering all of the out-of-the-way or remote places he could have gone, it appears he was purposely targeting the preschool.  Why else would he dump it there?  Not even out back, behind where no one could see him, but practically on their doorstep.
No, he was out to exact some kind of revenge or punishment of some type.  Or thought it would be funny to think of todlers walking through asbestos.


Maybe it was Umad? That motherfarker hates kids.
 
2013-03-20 08:38:29 PM  

FarkerinMN: How could it possibly cost $13k to clean that up, especially when its already outside. There is not really all that much risk from asbestos once its in an open environment. But also why would the driver even bother illegally dumping it, around here I can take asbestos to the dump at a rate of $23/ton they just ask that I call ahead so they can dig a hole for me to dump it in and bury it.


The estimate for the World Trade Center asbestos removal was around $1 billion before 9/11. Luckily for the owners it all ended up in the lungs of the first responders.

/yeah yeah, going to hell
//or mabye it's just better to let the first responders die alone and unremembered
 
2013-03-20 08:43:01 PM  
Why don't they dump asbestos in abandoned asbestos mines? It's a damned mineral.
 
2013-03-20 08:56:23 PM  
Bet he ends up on the Group W bench.
 
2013-03-20 09:00:28 PM  

Girion47: Just getting it in loose fiber form is dangerous, an asbestos fiber can stay suspended in the air for 72 hours after it's initial disturbance.


Just for funsies, I wiki'd asbestos a few months back. Supposedly asbestos fibers can be small enough to wrap around chromosomes and fark them up physically. That blew my mind.
 
2013-03-20 09:11:02 PM  
Civic-minded citizen despoiled the pedophiles' hangout.
 
2013-03-20 09:13:16 PM  

AndreMA: Why don't they dump asbestos in abandoned asbestos mines? It's a damned mineral.


They're all haunted.
 
2013-03-20 09:40:11 PM  
What a cheap mother farker.   I hope he gets caught . that said  I'd not be surprised if either those distinguishing item s on the truck are being changed or it been well hidden.
 
2013-03-20 09:42:08 PM  

flamingboard: AndreMA: Why don't they dump asbestos in abandoned asbestos mines? It's a damned mineral.

They're all haunted.


May every 'Ghost Hunters' crew visit them.
 
2013-03-20 10:00:02 PM  
Here in China, you could probably get away with dumping it in front of the CCTV building, though.

Or, well, anywhere else really.
 
2013-03-20 10:00:54 PM  

Kaenneth: flamingboard: AndreMA: Why don't they dump asbestos in abandoned asbestos mines? It's a damned mineral.

They're all haunted.

May every 'Ghost Hunters' crew visit them.


Then we blow the entrance and leave them in there.
 
2013-03-20 10:23:03 PM  
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I can't believe I'm the first to reference this.

/hot like a radioactive tree
 
2013-03-20 10:23:54 PM  
Here's what they could also do - since the fine  is a up to a$1m  they could use part of that to pay for a reward. Unlike they would collect. but what the Fark.) So put out a reward for up to $100k for the arrest and conviction of the perp. then split the fine. We convict you get up to 20% of the collected fine.
 
2013-03-20 10:28:36 PM  
My asbestos CSB--

I worked for a the prime contractor on a federal installation for a few years. The site was about as remote as you can get, and had a lot of old buildings. Every once in a while the client would want an old building demoed or at least abated...no problem, our construction/Over and Above group would bid the job (using subs certified for asbestos work) but would, for reasons known only to the corporate office, always leave disposal out of the bid.

Pain in my ass, because I was in charge of environmental compliance. These subs would come in, take care of the issues, bag everything up and load it into shipping containers, but I'd have no budget to have it shipped and disposed of.

/Solution: Send it out to the mother base on the next outgoing barge anyway.
//Let them figure out what to do with 8 20' containers of cubic yard sacks of ACM
///Finance got pissed, but that guy was a douche anyway (and part of the problem, by not including disposal in the bid)
 
2013-03-21 01:26:39 AM  
I guess dumping asbestos in front of a pre-school..

 ..lowers glasses...

...just isn't a class act..
 
2013-03-21 02:02:58 AM  
Thanks for bringing up painful memories, Fark!  About a year ago, my favorite local restaurant was sold to a pair who had just finished running another restaurant into the ground.  I hoped they might not fark up this time but they took failure to a whole new level.  They got red-tagged for improper asbestos removal last summer and the building's been sitting ever since with the windows boarded up.  It's a real eyesore because it's the only vacancy in town and it's right on a corner at the main intersection as people drive into town.
 
2013-03-21 03:06:24 AM  

Oznog: Solid State Vittles: Fair enough, I guess I'll just dump it the hospital's oncology department.  There.  Is that better?

You wanna give cancer to cancer?

Clever play.


Yo dawg, I bet Xhibit has something to say about that.
 
2013-03-21 03:10:29 AM  

theorellior: Girion47: Just getting it in loose fiber form is dangerous, an asbestos fiber can stay suspended in the air for 72 hours after it's initial disturbance.

Just for funsies, I wiki'd asbestos a few months back. Supposedly asbestos fibers can be small enough to wrap around chromosomes and fark them up physically. That blew my mind.


That's what causes the cancer: it physically messes up the DNA.
 
2013-03-21 09:07:33 AM  

Abacus9: theorellior: Girion47: Just getting it in loose fiber form is dangerous, an asbestos fiber can stay suspended in the air for 72 hours after it's initial disturbance.

Just for funsies, I wiki'd asbestos a few months back. Supposedly asbestos fibers can be small enough to wrap around chromosomes and fark them up physically. That blew my mind.

That's what causes the cancer: it physically messes up the DNA.


Cancer isn't the biggest worry with asbestos, it's having all of these little glass like fibers buried deep your tissue that will cut the lung tissue as you breath creating a scar, since the fiber is insoluble it moves around as it slices you, eventually you lungs are so cut up you'll have something like 30-40% of the capacity you had before.  Plus all kinds of wbc's floating around as they unsuccessfully attack the fibers.
 
2013-03-21 09:18:24 AM  

Abacus9: theorellior: Girion47: Just getting it in loose fiber form is dangerous, an asbestos fiber can stay suspended in the air for 72 hours after it's initial disturbance.

Just for funsies, I wiki'd asbestos a few months back. Supposedly asbestos fibers can be small enough to wrap around chromosomes and fark them up physically. That blew my mind.

That's what causes the cancer: it physically messes up the DNA.


No that's not what causes it. Mesothelioma is caused when small asbestos fibers get lodged in and abrade the alveoli which respond by encapsulating them. These scar nodules mostly stay benign and small but occasionally the body overreacts and the cancer mutation occurs.

Any exposure to asbestos could cause mesothelioma, but the odds of any one particle causing the disease are on the order of millions or billions to one which is why it's most common in men who worked for many years breathing airborne asbestos.

/not an oncologist, but I'm friends with a couple and have relatives who died from it.

//it being mesothelioma not oncologists.
 
2013-03-22 12:11:28 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: No that's not what causes it. Mesothelioma is caused when small asbestos fibers get lodged in and abrade the alveoli which respond by encapsulating them. These scar nodules mostly stay benign and small but occasionally the body overreacts and the cancer mutation occurs.


I'm sure you're right, I just meant that cancer is sort of defined as DNA damage.
 
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