spicorama: So did anyone actually read all that BS and care to summarize it for the rest of us?/tldr
Girion47: This is the same guy that wrote an article about how not having children means you hate America.
YouPeopleAreCrazy: SpiderQueenDemon: Hipsters, I think, are people whose health insurance doesn't cover actual therapy and who have resorted to baristas instead.well. Now that we've changed the rules, that would be 'sucking off the parental paid health insurance teat up to the age of 26'
andychrist420: Girion47: andychrist420: GAT_00: andychrist420: Citation needed. Got a link?How farking lazy do you have to be to not click on the author's name and see it's the second article on the page Mr. I Know Better Than You?So I'm supposed to research your hyperbolic claim? I'll concede the argument if you can produce a quote that he said, "if you don't have children, you hate America" I'll wait.Seriously, go to the article, the one I'm referring to is in the sidebar.Or, you could post a link to back up your moronic claim, but I'm the lazy one. You made an obviously exaggerated Claim which leads me to question the source. All I asked for was a link. Ever heard of the concept of supporting one's argument? And no, I don't want to go searching around a crappy website to find evidence of your claim. I'll just keep believing you lack basic reading comprehension skills.
YouPeopleAreCrazy: meat0918: But fixing your own plumbing, minor house repairs? Hipsters got that covered (in glitter and using salvaged or reused parts a lot of time). That is THE hip thing right now, self-sustainability.Yeah, they might reference a blog instead of a Chilton repair manual, but the point is do it yourself is a necessity for many younger folks, cause they're broke man. They're broke.What I see in that space is 'lack of problem solving'. Any 'hands on' section of StackExchange is full of them."I am adding a room to my home, the contractor poured a concrete slab for the addition and it slopes toward the existing house and it is now raining and water is coming under my floors. Is the slope of the poured slab correct? "WTF? No, that's not right, you fool."My bedroom has a very nice looking flush mounted ceiling light with a glass dome. However, all the bulbs have gone out and I cannot get the glass out to replace them."WTF? Get a step ladder!Seemingly simple problems are not solved, but begged for the solution. Yes, eventually they may fix the physical issue themselves. But good grief...how hard it it to figure out you need a step ladder if you are too short? Do you really need to ask that?
EnglishMan: ZeroCorpseOne suspects it was a homophobic response, because they didn't like living next to fabulous houses full of fabulous people, but whatever the case, the negative elements started to leave and were replaced by people who were, by and large, better educated and employed in higher-paying jobs or at least involved in intellectual or artistic pursuits.Or they were socially cleansed by rising costs of living which meant they had to move into an even more run-down location. But you know, come up with whatever lets you feel happy about poor people being forced to live in ghettos.
HoratioGates: Notice how the author cites New York, then in the next paragraph leaves it out when he mentions the vanillaness of many of these cities, or that he sites the focus of money on the artistic class at the same time noting the increase in spending on the poor? Or that he confuses correlation and causation? Look, I hate hipsters almost as much as Cartman hates hippies, but rust belt cities were often built on their closeness to key resources. If your coal runs out, your city may go to crap. Ironically, the highway system may have doomed Detroit. When you need the Great Lakes and rail to ship stuff, Detroit was great. So was Buffalo. What do they have now that you can't accomplish by road? Cheap labor? You can find that anywhere, and probably someplace sunnier. Towns that are doing well? They have international seaports, resources (oil), or great weather, or some combination of those things. (Okay, Chicago sort of breaks those rules, but most cities follow those rules.) If you don't have one of those things, you make up for it with a lot of social spending.
poorjon: spicorama: So did anyone actually read all that BS and care to summarize it for the rest of us?/tldrWhen the "creative class", as hipsters are referred to in the article, moves in and gentrifies an area, the cost of living skyrockets offsetting any other gains which would have been had. Furthermore, the creative class probably won't be convinced to move into your sh*tty rust-belt city just because you built a bike path./At least that's what it would have said if I'd read it. Collapsing wavefunctions is so mainstream.
Spiralmonkey: What constitutes an artisanal cheese chop? Do they use hand made guillotines lubricated with the armpit secretions of 80 year old French nuns? Is it somewhere you can take your own home-made caboc and they'll cut it into daisy-shaped rounds that fit exactly onto your hand-pressed oatcakes seasoned with lavender? Do they make motorbikes out of matured Wensleydale?
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