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2013-03-20 03:00:16 PM  
It's San Francisco... aren't there like 6,000 free open Wifi spots already nearby?
 
2013-03-20 03:04:35 PM  
Going to live football games is AWESOME.

Going three hours drive away down the turnpike though the worst traffic in the country isn't. Nor is paying $25 to park, $10 for a luke-ward watered down shiatty beer, $9 for a hot dog...oh, and did we mention you can't carry in any more?

Yea. So, there you are, on a Sunday afternoon at 1PM, sitting without shade in the Florida sun for 3 hours. You either spend a farkton of money or get heatstroke. And then its an hour to get back on the turnpike, and another three hours home.

That part, not so much. But the game itself is pretty neato.
 
2013-03-20 03:04:45 PM  
Yea...live football blows.
 
2013-03-20 03:05:36 PM  
(Yes, the above commentary applies to me in south Florida, not California. I'm guessing the experience is similar, though)
 
2013-03-20 03:06:18 PM  
So in order to make the game day experience hundreds of dollars better than staying at home, they're going to do their best to make going to a game just like staying at home?
 
2013-03-20 03:08:17 PM  
Having gone to a Sunday night 49ers game last season and being sober, it's not the best experience.  However, with awesome free seats, I really couldn't complain too much.

/No idea why I was sober
//Farking Lions sucked
 
2013-03-20 03:13:05 PM  

xaks: Going to live football games is AWESOME.


If you factor in the tailgating experience, certainly. Otherwise, meh. You have to sit through A LOT of stoppages and "TV timeouts" during the actual game.

 

tommyl66: So in order to make the game day experience hundreds of dollars better than staying at home, they're going to do their best to make going to a game just like staying at home?


I'm not sure what else teams can do other than cram as many amenities and comforts as possible into arenas and stadiums. The cost of tickets, parking, etc is enough of a deterrent for me in deciding how many games per year of any sport I would attend, and having an HDTV like most other people nowadays is the other.
 
2013-03-20 03:16:40 PM  

fatalvenom: Yea...live football blows.


HD has kinda ruined it.  you see all the replays (they don't always show them in stadium, particularly if the call helps the visting team or hurts the home team), you see the cool slo mo shiat, all the stuff you don't see live. live you can see stuff (duh) the tvs don't, like coverage patterns, when a guy is crazy open, or see the play forming before it happens, etc.  but HD rules my face.

and when you add teh DVR in, as i always say, that hugely changes things.  i will typically DVR the game i'm interested in, then spent the first half doing all the de rigeur dad/husband shiat i have to, then start wtaching the game in what is real time, the 3rd quarter.  blaze throught he dead ball stuff, commercials, tv timeouts, halftime, burn the entire first half in about 15 actual minutes, then watch the game live.  watch the entire 3:55 contest in about 90 minutes and not miss anything.

like this season, cards played i think the jets, and i was traveling.  i got home as the game was probably in the late 4th quarter and watched the whole damn game in about 30 minutes.  granted, you have to go on media blackout but still.
 
2013-03-20 03:17:09 PM  
Dodger Stadium is doing this, too.  Maybe now we'll actually be able to use the damn MLB At The Ballpark app.
 
2013-03-20 03:19:43 PM  
Only NFL game I went to was a 38-35 score fest so there were hardly any stoppages, plus I was drunk and my team won in the last seconds.  Plus, there was a pure douchebag beside me who had to run away after his team lost so I wouldn't rub it in (might of might not of, after all I was drunk) It was farking awesome.

/worth it once, if I go to a bad game I might never go again.
 
2013-03-20 03:19:55 PM  

xaks: Going to live football games is AWESOME.

Going three hours drive away down the turnpike though the worst traffic in the country isn't. Nor is paying $25 to park, $10 for a luke-ward watered down shiatty beer, $9 for a hot dog...oh, and did we mention you can't carry in any more?

Yea. So, there you are, on a Sunday afternoon at 1PM, sitting without shade in the Florida sun for 3 hours. You either spend a farkton of money or get heatstroke. And then its an hour to get back on the turnpike, and another three hours home.

That part, not so much. But the game itself is pretty neato.


This makes me thankful for having Green Bay just a short drive away, even if it means putting up with Packer fans.
 
2013-03-20 03:22:14 PM  
Target Field has had free wifi since it opened.  I'm surprised it's considered a story when another sports team does it.
 
2013-03-20 03:22:17 PM  

Killer Cars: The cost of tickets, parking, etc is enough of a deterrent for me in deciding how many games per year of any sport I would attend, and having an HDTV like most other people nowadays is the other.


that too.  for cardinals games, even shiatty upper tank seats are about $60 - $80 face.  so if you and a freind are going, let's call it $70 per, then parking is anywhere from $20 to $60 (depending on who's in town and how close you want to park), so let's call that' $100 just to get in the barn.  then, if you have even one soda/beer, that's $8.  so let's call it $115 for a shiatty seat.

then, if it is a 1PM game, it takes from where i live, 70 minutes to get to the stadium on game days.  gotta be early to get throught he security lines.  so budget 90  minutes, minimum, just to have your ass in the seat at kickoff.  add 3:45 for the game.  then it takes 90 minutes to get home.

so you pay $115 and spend basically 7 hours watchign the team, versus being at home with your boys watching the game.
 
2013-03-20 03:24:36 PM  

rickythepenguin: fatalvenom: Yea...live football blows.

HD has kinda ruined it.  you see all the replays (they don't always show them in stadium, particularly if the call helps the visting team or hurts the home team), you see the cool slo mo shiat, all the stuff you don't see live.



I love football as much as the next guy, but I've been to probably 20 or more games, college and pro, and I just don't get the fascination with it. On TV, I'll sit on my ass at home or at a bar and watch games with teams I couldn't give a flying fark about.

Hockey on the other hand, I'll watch games on TV all day and go to games with teams I couldn't give a flying fark about. That explains why I go to so many Panthers games even when they aren't playing the Bruins.

Hockey is the best "live" of the 4 major sports.
 
2013-03-20 03:24:40 PM  

rickythepenguin: HD has kinda ruined it.


This.  Typically I can only afford the cheap seats anyway, so I can't see as much as I would be able to on the big screen at home.  Although heckling the fans from the road team is kinda fun.  And breaking up fights between drunk fans.
 
2013-03-20 03:25:52 PM  

rickythepenguin: like this season, cards played i think the jets, and i was traveling.  i got home as the game was probably in the late 4th quarter and watched the whole damn game in about 30 minutes.  granted, you have to go on media blackout but still.


I'm not sure why you'd have to go on media blackout - no one in their right mind watched that game.
 
2013-03-20 03:25:58 PM  
Live football is great, but football in HD, in room temperature, with snacks and beers that don't total $50+, where *I* am the only loud a-hole and in my robe/sweats is even better.
 
2013-03-20 03:31:19 PM  

xaks: Going to live football games is AWESOME.

Going three hours drive away down the turnpike though the worst traffic in the country isn't. Nor is paying $25 to park, $10 for a luke-ward watered down shiatty beer, $9 for a hot dog...oh, and did we mention you can't carry in any more?

Yea. So, there you are, on a Sunday afternoon at 1PM, sitting without shade in the Florida sun for 3 hours. You either spend a farkton of money or get heatstroke. And then its an hour to get back on the turnpike, and another three hours home.

That part, not so much. But the game itself is pretty neato.


I can be in Foxboro Stadium within minutes, and in my livingroom before the post-game press conferences.  No paying for parking.  We don't have the unbearable sun or heat - we do have unbearable cold later in the season - but I still I find it's awesome going to 1 or 2 games a year.  More than that and it's too expensive and the atmosphere wears on me.
 
2013-03-20 03:32:15 PM  
Live college football is fun (crowds are crazier and it's not ALL middle-aged dudes). Live pro football is awful.

Every televised game is measurably worse than every non-televised game. The fun part for me is that I typically live in areas with not-very-big teams, so I see the difference on a game-to-game basis. Ah, tonight's hockey game must be on TV, since they're stopping every few minutes for no reason and everyone is basically getting timeouts. Plan to spend an extra half-hour at the rink.

Oh, we're at a televised football game? Hooray replay and TV timeouts. Add another 30-40 minutes to the length of the game. Basketball...same deal.

/the only interesting part is watching refs or players or fans get pissed off or restless or wondering why everyone's just standing around when they seem ready to go, because others aren't paying attention to the media guy that signals the refs when to resume play
//also funny when people take it out on him, like it's his fault someone else wants to squeeze another ad in
 
2013-03-20 03:34:07 PM  
I've been to two games, first was an upper deck cheap seats with my dad (our first game ever) where Vikings fans mercilessly booed McNabb even when we were up 28-0 in the first. The second was with the whole family, sitting on the field in the endzone areas. It was preseason, but still pretty fun.

And I can personally attest that it is, in fact, really really farking loud on the field in the Metrodome, even at 2/3 capacity.
 
2013-03-20 03:35:27 PM  
Honestly, though, the No. 1 thing that pisses me off is when they charge for parking. That seems like it can be covered with the expensive tickets. Hell, I'd probably be willing to pay the same amount I would currently, just make it look like it's all the cost of going to the game instead of springing the parking trap on me when I roll up. Especially if you require cash (haven't parked in an actual lot for a pro football game in years, so I'd assume they don't still require this).

If I have to pay cash, then I'm paying that extra money AND I have to make a trip out of my way to an ATM. Now you've inconvenienced me more.

/and really, it's more enjoyable to watch at home
//surest way to get people to the stadium? Make gambling on the game legal at the stadium only
 
2013-03-20 03:37:54 PM  
I've been to a few NFL games, and they all pretty much sucked. The last one I went to was two seasons ago, and it was only because I had won a raffle for some M&T Bank official's season tickets for the 49ers/Ravens Thanksgiving game. Club level seats, waitstaff, 50-yard line... It was great, except for how I had to waste five hours of my Thanksgiving Day on the road to get to and from the stadium, and then the view even from the club level was inferior to what I get on my 22-inch standard definition TV at home. Add in the often belligerently drunken fans, the annoying music and ads they played on the stadium speakers during every pause in play, the ridiculous prices for stadium concessions, the hour-long traffic jam getting out of the parking lot, the low scoring game, the Baltimore hobos begging for money, random people in the parking lot trying to get you to sell your tickets, advertisers handing you shiat while you try to get into the stadium, getting patted down by the security people at the gates, etc, etc...
 
2013-03-20 03:38:04 PM  

fatalvenom: Hockey is the best "live" of the 4 major sports.


i've only been to one live hockey game (norfolk admirals about 50 years ago) but it was cool as shiat.

the NHL / Coyotes (we've had this discussion about a thousand times here before) screwed up incredibly by putting the Yotes where they are.  they could have had prime real estate in scottsdale and had massive fan buy-in but they put it on the outskirts of phoenix with only two real ingress routes.  so many fans i know just can't go to a "school night" game becuase of the work/school situation.

and scottsdale isn't blameless.  the bluehairs were so against use of public money to build a new venue (i know, this is getting political) that they harrumphed and hemmed and hawed and instead of realize the spillover revenue from, say, parking, secondary commercial investment such as hotels, restaraunts, the revenue that secondary investment would have brought in, increased property tax revenue from appreciating real estate, they decided they would rather have 100% of ZERO.  i drove by the proposed site about a year ago and it was a dirt farking lot.

so basically scottsdale decided they'd rather reap 12-13 years of ZERO instead of being able to have a hockey arena.

that's my canned speech on how dumb it was site the Yotes wehre they did.  and glendale signed a shiat deal and the massive entertainment / restaurant complex there is tanking, from what i understand.  westgaet or westville or some shiat.
 
2013-03-20 03:39:44 PM  

Dogpants: Target Field has had free wifi since it opened.  I'm surprised it's considered a story when another sports team does it.


Have you ever tried to upload a picture or text someone while at Target Field? I can't get my regular T-mobile data to work there, let alone connect to the free wifi. The world needs to see my cheese curds, damn it!
 
2013-03-20 03:41:07 PM  

tommyl66: So in order to make the game day experience hundreds of dollars better than staying at home, they're going to do their best to make going to a game just like staying at home?


They're gong to yell at you every 10 minutes to wash the farking dishes?
 
2013-03-20 03:42:46 PM  

GiantRex: The last one I went to was two seasons ago, and it was only because I had won a raffle for some M&T Bank official's season tickets for the 49ers/Ravens Thanksgiving game.


my last game was halloween i think 2011, cards/bucs.  free tickets.  couple things:  all the TB chicks that would have dressed as sexy pirates anyways used halloween to slut it up even more, so there were TONS of sexy slutty buccaneeresses.  HOH YEAH!  but the guy that booted, during the game, all over the the 2-3 rows in front of him kinda ruined it.  they were pissed.  as anyone would be.  they sent a cleanup crew down but for like 10 minutes, those patrons were furious.  that sucked i guess.

/on the other hand, i met luis gonzales at the gift shop so that was cool.
 
2013-03-20 03:45:08 PM  

xaks: Going to live football games is AWESOME.

Going three hours drive away down the turnpike though the worst traffic in the country isn't. Nor is paying $25 to park, $10 for a luke-ward watered down shiatty beer, $9 for a hot dog...oh, and did we mention you can't carry in any more?

Yea. So, there you are, on a Sunday afternoon at 1PM, sitting without shade in the Florida sun for 3 hours. You either spend a farkton of money or get heatstroke. And then its an hour to get back on the turnpike, and another three hours home.

That part, not so much. But the game itself is pretty neato.


That's why if you go to dolphins stadium you try to sit low on the west side. You will be in the shade soon enough. The rest of that can't really be fixed. You could sneak liquor in in a plastic flask I spose.
 
2013-03-20 03:45:42 PM  

Grapple: It's San Francisco... aren't there like 6,000 free open Wifi spots already nearby?


The part of town in which the 'Stick is located is... special.
 
2013-03-20 03:47:26 PM  
I wouldn't pay to go to a pro football game.

I may go for free depending on the weather.
 
2013-03-20 03:49:22 PM  

fatalvenom: Yea...live football blows.


this, or at least watching it real time, I mean who can afford a ticket anyway?
and I just read the rule barring ball carriers from initiating contact with their helmet in the open field has been approved. goodbye football, we hardly knew ye.
 
2013-03-20 03:51:39 PM  
(Don't scoff-as we've noted before, three-plus-hour NFL games contain only, or a bit more if you include the time quarterbacks spend shouting directions at teammates at the line of scrimmage. There is plenty of time to fill up.)

This is only true if you don't understand football at all.
 
2013-03-20 03:51:58 PM  

GiantRex: I've been to a few NFL games, and they all pretty much sucked. The last one I went to was two seasons ago, and it was only because I had won a raffle for some M&T Bank official's season tickets for the 49ers/Ravens Thanksgiving game.


The only two I've been to as an adult were preseason games; one was because I got free tickets from the base (Oakland/Seattle) and was going to be in Seattle anyway because my alma mater was playing UW the next day (and one of our alums was just drafted by Oakland that year, so it was nice to catch him in an NFL uniform even if he pretty much never plays). The other was in New Orleans the year they won the title, and that was because I was in Biloxi for tech school and I was only there for a month and the tickets to the LSU/VT or whatever game were ridiculously priced, so I got $50 tickets for food, bus trip there and back, and to go to the last preseason game. Supposedly we weren't allowed to bring booze on the bus, so we bought Powerade bottles and filled 'em up with booze. Way better than driving.
 
2013-03-20 03:57:11 PM  

Treygreen13: (Don't scoff-as we've noted before, three-plus-hour NFL games contain only, or a bit more if you include the time quarterbacks spend shouting directions at teammates at the line of scrimmage. There is plenty of time to fill up.)

This is only true if you don't understand football at all.


No, it's quite true.  Very little happens throughout the 3 hours of an NFL game.

It averages to about 11 minutes of play.  If you factor in the time at the line of scrimmage pre-snap, I'm sure it goes up to max a half hour.

The rest of the time is huddles and subs.

You don't have to be an expert to understand an 11-man meeting and people jogging on and off of the field.
 
2013-03-20 04:02:27 PM  

MugzyBrown: It averages to about 11 minutes of play. If you factor in the time at the line of scrimmage pre-snap, I'm sure it goes up to max a half hour.


yeah.....after the snap, on the telecast, they rarely show substition patterns or where the defense lines up (yeah, you'll see players moving around but rarely do they show precisely what they're doing).  so if you DVR it, you can skip through that 30 seconds of the equivalent of dead air.

i get the purist counterpoint of "a lot of important shiat happens that the casual fan won't see" and i'll accept that at a game -- substition patterns, maybe the QB yelling at a WR about a route, the coach heatedly discussing what must be playcalls with the OC, the kicker warming up like a madman when the team is on the 45 yard line, whatever -- but they rarely show that shiat on tv, is my point.
 
2013-03-20 04:03:12 PM  

Two Hearted: Dogpants: Target Field has had free wifi since it opened.  I'm surprised it's considered a story when another sports team does it.

Have you ever tried to upload a picture or text someone while at Target Field? I can't get my regular T-mobile data to work there, let alone connect to the free wifi. The world needs to see my cheese curds, damn it!


I think it depends on where you happen to be when sending.  They had problems in the first year so they added access points around the stadium.  I was able to upload pix of my sweetie's Walleye Fingers from center field on the concourse faster than you could say Darin Mastroianni, but have had problems in the seating area.
 
2013-03-20 04:03:13 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: xaks: Going to live football games is AWESOME.

Going three hours drive away down the turnpike though the worst traffic in the country isn't. Nor is paying $25 to park, $10 for a luke-ward watered down shiatty beer, $9 for a hot dog...oh, and did we mention you can't carry in any more?

Yea. So, there you are, on a Sunday afternoon at 1PM, sitting without shade in the Florida sun for 3 hours. You either spend a farkton of money or get heatstroke. And then its an hour to get back on the turnpike, and another three hours home.

That part, not so much. But the game itself is pretty neato.

That's why if you go to dolphins stadium you try to sit low on the west side. You will be in the shade soon enough. The rest of that can't really be fixed. You could sneak liquor in in a plastic flask I spose.


Here's how we 'worked around'.

Get a couple clear plastic 2 liter bottles. Jam empty ziploc baggie into them. Fill baggie with H20. Lay down in freezer overnight. Before leaving for game, fill 2 liter jug with clear rum. Add a couple sealed 2 liter bottles of coke. Throw all in softside cooler. Enjoy.

The rest kinda sucked, as I'm a beer drinker. So I got like 3 or 4 of them and strung them out over the course of the whole game and drove my sloshed friends home after.

My wife and two buddies had never been to a pro game before. My other bud had been going to games since it was Joe Robbie Stadium, so he filled me in ahead of time.
 
2013-03-20 04:04:26 PM  

MugzyBrown: Treygreen13: (Don't scoff-as we've noted before, three-plus-hour NFL games contain only, or a bit more if you include the time quarterbacks spend shouting directions at teammates at the line of scrimmage. There is plenty of time to fill up.)

This is only true if you don't understand football at all.

No, it's quite true.  Very little happens throughout the 3 hours of an NFL game.

It averages to about 11 minutes of play.  If you factor in the time at the line of scrimmage pre-snap, I'm sure it goes up to max a half hour.

The rest of the time is huddles and subs.

You don't have to be an expert to understand an 11-man meeting and people jogging on and off of the field.


I gotta disgree, otherwise no team would ever get a 12 men on the field penalty.

There is a lot happening, and if you follow your team (and the opposing team) enough to know *who* those 11 guys are in relation to the down and distance... then you've got a whole other world of stuff to look at.

I'm not trying to claim that football games don't cram a lot of empty time into a 3 hour period. But only counting time between when the ball is snapped and when the play is dead isn't representative of what is actually happening on the field.

Saying that pre-snap adjustments and substitutions aren't part of the game and refusing to count them as action is like claiming that the only time hockey or soccer are "playing" is when a shot is in on goal.
 
2013-03-20 04:04:48 PM  

rickythepenguin: i get the purist counterpoint of "a lot of important shiat happens that the casual fan won't see" and i'll accept that at a game -- substition patterns, maybe the QB yelling at a WR about a route, the coach heatedly discussing what must be playcalls with the OC, the kicker warming up like a madman when the team is on the 45 yard line, whatever -- but they rarely show that shiat on tv, is my point


Actually most of that shiat you're more likely to notice on TV than live.  That's why there's no point to go.

The chances of catching a dirty look from a coach to a player is almost nil at the game, but they'll always catch it and show a replay on TV.
 
2013-03-20 04:07:01 PM  

rickythepenguin: MugzyBrown: It averages to about 11 minutes of play. If you factor in the time at the line of scrimmage pre-snap, I'm sure it goes up to max a half hour.

yeah.....after the snap, on the telecast, they rarely show substition patterns or where the defense lines up (yeah, you'll see players moving around but rarely do they show precisely what they're doing).  so if you DVR it, you can skip through that 30 seconds of the equivalent of dead air.

i get the purist counterpoint of "a lot of important shiat happens that the casual fan won't see" and i'll accept that at a game -- substition patterns, maybe the QB yelling at a WR about a route, the coach heatedly discussing what must be playcalls with the OC, the kicker warming up like a madman when the team is on the 45 yard line, whatever -- but they rarely show that shiat on tv, is my point.


You can see it in person, though. I haven't been in a long time, but the last time I went to a pro  stadium I actually went and watched *practice* football just because there's so much to look at for the serious fan.

That's part of the reason I like going to baseball games but fall asleep watching it on TV. I don't need to see the pitcher nodding into his glove and a reaction shot of someone looking bored in seat 48A. But when you're there, and you see all the guys reacting even when the ball isn't in play... that's entertaining.
 
2013-03-20 04:07:45 PM  
I guess I'm the outlier here because I have a blast at live NFL games. The one thing you don't get at home is the electric sense of excitement as the ball arcs towards an open receiver and the huge crowd reaction when the receiver makes the catch.

Maybe it's because I'm an Eagles fan and love them or hate them the fans are loud, vocal and (somewhat) knowledgeable. Plus I usually hit Chickies and Petes prior to the game, tailgate, then hit the game proper. I can make it home on the train too (I live in Bucks Co) so my relatively drunk ass can just walk out of there.

It's a day's event, sure but really its like fishing, hunting or golf - an excuse to get away from home,  drink beer and relax because there's no way I can pat biills, fold laundry, mow the grass or wash the car when I'm in a stadium seat.
 
2013-03-20 04:09:07 PM  

Treygreen13: But only counting time between when the ball is snapped and when the play is dead isn't representative of what is actually happening on the field.


yeah, but on the telecast, 1 out of every 5 between snap breaks is boomer / joe buck / al michaels pimping the new sitcom after the game with a canned clip from the show, and the other 3 are either:  a slow motion replay of the pass that was tipped/dropped/caught, or a stadium shot, or 25 seconds of a head shot of hunky tom brady licking his fingers.  maybe one of those shows the WRs leaving as a fullback package rolls in, or vice versa.

i think we agree that there is a lot that goes on that is important, but my thing is they don't show that stuff.  you often only catch what the offensive package is when the ball is ready to be snapped.  "huh....4 wide on a 2nd and 4....interesting.....*snap*"
 
2013-03-20 04:11:37 PM  

rickythepenguin: Treygreen13: But only counting time between when the ball is snapped and when the play is dead isn't representative of what is actually happening on the field.

yeah, but on the telecast, 1 out of every 5 between snap breaks is boomer / joe buck / al michaels pimping the new sitcom after the game with a canned clip from the show, and the other 3 are either:  a slow motion replay of the pass that was tipped/dropped/caught, or a stadium shot, or 25 seconds of a head shot of hunky tom brady licking his fingers.  maybe one of those shows the WRs leaving as a fullback package rolls in, or vice versa.

i think we agree that there is a lot that goes on that is important, but my thing is they don't show that stuff.  you often only catch what the offensive package is when the ball is ready to be snapped.  "huh....4 wide on a 2nd and 4....interesting.....*snap*"


Well, the quote I was referencing originally was from the article, which is about attending a live event. I think Mugsy bridged our comments together so that we're arguing two different points.
 
2013-03-20 04:12:29 PM  

MugzyBrown: The chances of catching a dirty look from a coach to a player is almost nil at the game, but they'll always catch it and show a replay on TV.



yeah, like when then-Cardinal anquan boldin was shown yelling at that KC douche, it was amazing how much that hurt boldin's reputation.  cousin sal referenced it during the post-super bowl this year when it was looking like Bodin was leaving baltimore:  "plus he had that sideline dustup with the cardinals coach a few years ago...."  that shiat happens ALL THE DAMN TIME but with him, they wouldn't stfu about it.

conversely, they don't show Brady crying as much as they used to.  you see him get knocked down, and then he gets up and walks towards the ref and CUTAWAY!  like, god forbid we show hunky tom brady crying to the ref.
 
2013-03-20 04:15:19 PM  

xaks: Going three hours drive away down the turnpike though the worst traffic in the country isn't. Nor is paying $25 to park, $10 for a luke-ward watered down shiatty beer, $9 for a hot dog...oh, and did we mention you can't carry in any more?


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2013-03-20 04:16:58 PM  

Treygreen13: You can see it in person, though. I haven't been in a long time, but the last time I went to a pro stadium I actually went and watched *practice* football just because there's so much to look at for the serious fan.


no, that's what i'm saying.  you do see that stuff at games. not at home.  you see (and appreciate) how far back the safety might be on a certain QB, or how tightly the defnese will be if the offense sucks ass.

antoher good example you only see live is when the WR takes off like a bat out of hell.  when you see that, keep your eye on him becuase he's not running for show.  he's running because he knows, as does the QB, that they're going long.  that same play on a TV is telecast as max protection, hopefully QB has time, then he throws downfield.

you also see, in a whole different way live, what defensive players don't like contact.  you see guys instead of advancing to the ballcarrier, guys holding their ground and then going low at point of contact.  i saw adrian wilson basically get run over by josh freeman at the goal line at that TB game.  really disapaoint.  like A-Dub's feet were in teh end zone the whole time.  he got trucked.
 
2013-03-20 04:19:33 PM  

rickythepenguin: MugzyBrown: The chances of catching a dirty look from a coach to a player is almost nil at the game, but they'll always catch it and show a replay on TV.


yeah, like when then-Cardinal anquan boldin was shown yelling at that KC douche, it was amazing how much that hurt boldin's reputation.  cousin sal referenced it during the post-super bowl this year when it was looking like Bodin was leaving baltimore:  "plus he had that sideline dustup with the cardinals coach a few years ago...."  that shiat happens ALL THE DAMN TIME but with him, they wouldn't stfu about it.

conversely, they don't show Brady crying as much as they used to.  you see him get knocked down, and then he gets up and walks towards the ref and CUTAWAY!  like, god forbid we show hunky tom brady crying to the ref.


I've told my media friend (who works some of the NFL games on occasion) to tell the producers to cut a certain shot that's been *KILLING* me.

Doesn't matter the game, they always do this shot, but let's say it's Rams/Pats... Tom Brady v. Sam Bradford. Middle of the 3rd quarter, Brady goes down and scores. Cut *IMMEDIATELY* to a shot of Sam Bradford, like he's somehow responsible for Tom Brady scoring. Why not show the guy who just got torched? Why not show the defense running off the field frustrated and angry?

That's part of the reason so many people don't understand why the game works and think QBs are the only players that matter. They focus on the QBs to the point where people don't even know who plays on a defense.
 
2013-03-20 04:21:44 PM  
NFL Red Zone is infinitely greater than attending a game live.
 
2013-03-20 04:30:13 PM  

PowerSlacker: NFL Red Zone is infinitely greater than attending a game live.


Watching the 10am games on redzone in the parking lot while grilling and drinking, then attending the 1pm game is the best of all. Luckily, since the NFL caters to the East Coast, there are only usually 3-4 games on at the 1-pm hour, so those of us who attend games on the West Coast don't miss anything.
 
2013-03-20 04:31:44 PM  
 
2013-03-20 04:34:18 PM  

Treygreen13: Cut *IMMEDIATELY* to a shot of Sam Bradford, like he's somehow responsible for Tom Brady scoring. Why not show the guy who just got torched? Why not show the defense running off the field frustrated and angry?



ha, that's great.  yeah.  that's definitely cliche, moreso in playoffs.

another one that bothered me was when Derek Anderson was the QB (me turn an NFL thread into Cardinal thread?  what?  that never happens!) and during a county jail asswhupping, they showed DA joking with Deuce Lutui (you may remember this being the seed of the "that's fine!  that's fine!  that's fine!  ok!  that's fine!  you think i don't care out there?  that's fine!  that's fine!" post game meltdown).

the very moment they showed them yukking it up, i knew he would get killed by the media, and he was.  but that stuff happens.  he didn't handle it well, but you see players doing that at games.

DA just should have said, "gallows humor, when you're in the trenches, you say things to each other to try to pick each other up, you have to laugh sometimes, but don't think we didn't care that we were losing" or something.  he got confrontational and you can't beat the media*.


*unless you are richard sherman DESTROYING skip bayless.  "I'm better than life than you.  from now on, introduce me as 'Stanford graduate, NFL all pro, because those are things you will never be."
 
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