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2013-03-20 02:09:42 PM
Why would they forget how to bark on command?
 
2013-03-20 02:16:51 PM
A spokesdog, asked about the prospects of former police dogs on the job market, admitted that the outlook was "rough".
 
2013-03-20 02:30:43 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?


It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.
 
2013-03-20 02:47:26 PM

BunkoSquad: A spokesdog, asked about the prospects of former police dogs on the job market, admitted that the outlook was "rough".


They'll just have to stay home, eat milk bones, and get high.
 
2013-03-20 02:47:38 PM
Yeah, you're right. Let's just keep incarcerating non-violent potheads.
 
2013-03-20 03:08:44 PM

King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.


No they don't, because of what you said before it. Instead of being pot, they'll claim it was coke, meth, heroin, [insert illegal narcotic here] that the dog picked up and still have probable cause to search. Your car could be completely brand-spanking new just driven off the lot and as long as the dog barks, they're justified in searching. The only difference now would be actually finding pot and not being able to do shiat about it besides harassing the person.

Wasn't there a supreme court ruling on drug-sniffing dogs recently? They basically said even if the dog has a fail rate of 90%, it's justified because they wouldn't have caught the actual bad 10% otherwise.
 
2013-03-20 03:09:46 PM
So, their noses will be out of joint?
 
2013-03-20 03:37:09 PM
THINK OF THE PUPPIES
 
2013-03-20 03:37:37 PM
1.  Put training pot dogs up for sale.
2.  Sell to forgetful potheads who always loses their stash.
3.  Profit!
 
2013-03-20 03:38:13 PM

tricycleracer: Put training pot dogs up for sale.


Wow, that was a clusterfark of words.
 
2013-03-20 03:38:40 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?


Done it one.

King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.


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2013-03-20 03:39:13 PM
Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?
 
2013-03-20 03:40:08 PM

tricycleracer: tricycleracer: Put training pot dogs up for sale.

Wow, that was a clusterfark of words.


banana vegemite rectum
 
2013-03-20 03:41:17 PM

Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?


"Chew-ie"?
 
2013-03-20 03:41:59 PM

Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?


Heh that would be pretty funny.

Cocaine - dog starts scratching nose and thinking it's invincible
Crack - dog starts itching around the neck and begging other dogs for treats to feeds its habit
Speed - dog starts spinning really fast in circles
Bath-salts - dog leaps at its handler's face and just starts tearing it apart
 
2013-03-20 03:42:48 PM
I think a bigger concern is retraining the police. Oh wait! War on Terror, nevermind.
 
2013-03-20 03:43:11 PM
My dog barks whenever I get aroused.  Mostly because he's a light sleeper and always feels it go in.
 
2013-03-20 03:43:40 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?


I see my work here is done.
 
2013-03-20 03:44:21 PM
Your are all of you misunderestimating the number of training pot dogs that are employminated at police law stations.
 
2013-03-20 03:44:46 PM

scottydoesntknow: Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?

Heh that would be pretty funny.

Cocaine - dog starts scratching nose and thinking it's invincible
Crack - dog starts itching around the neck and begging other dogs for treats to feeds its habit
Speed - dog starts spinning really fast in circles
Bath-salts - dog leaps at its handler's face and just starts tearing it apart


Meth - Dog starts to lose teeth.
 
2013-03-20 03:45:09 PM
FTA: ...there are other causes for suspicion, such as the car leaving a known drug house or white powder on the driver's mustache.

First off, that seems awfully specific. Secondly, have these cops never eaten a donut?
 
2013-03-20 03:45:18 PM

King Something: they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.


Cats should be illegal, they only lead to this:
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2013-03-20 03:45:34 PM

scottydoesntknow: Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?

Heh that would be pretty funny.

Cocaine - dog starts scratching nose and thinking it's invincible
Crack - dog starts itching around the neck and begging other dogs for treats to feeds its habit
Speed - dog starts spinning really fast in circles
Bath-salts - dog leaps at its handler's face and just starts tearing it apart


It's within the capabilities of a dog. Maybe hold up a card and have the dog put his paw on the right symbol. I don't know but I'm sure they've considered it. The only reason they don't do it now is it would limit searches. If a dog indicates for marijuana, and they find cocaine and no pot was it an illegal search?
 
2013-03-20 03:45:53 PM
Drug dogs are just an excuse to perform illegal searches anyways.
 
2013-03-20 03:46:51 PM
I think the dogs will be of some use to China, and some other Asian countries. Unlike Americans, they know how to find alternate uses for something that has outlived it's primary purpose.
 
2013-03-20 03:47:46 PM
So using the dog to find the "good" party is out of the question?
 
2013-03-20 03:48:09 PM
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2013-03-20 03:49:09 PM

AeAe: tricycleracer: tricycleracer: Put training pot dogs up for sale.

Wow, that was a clusterfark of words.

banana vegemite rectum


Pot dogs sounds like something a stoner came up with to make hotdogs with weed in them.
 
2013-03-20 03:50:41 PM

scottydoesntknow: King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.

No they don't, because of what you said before it. Instead of being pot, they'll claim it was coke, meth, heroin, [insert illegal narcotic here] that the dog picked up and still have probable cause to search. Your car could be completely brand-spanking new just driven off the lot and as long as the dog barks, they're justified in searching. The only difference now would be actually finding pot and not being able to do shiat about it besides harassing the person.

Wasn't there a supreme court ruling on drug-sniffing dogs recently? They basically said even if the dog has a fail rate of 90%, it's justified because they wouldn't have caught the actual bad 10% otherwise.


Because if the dogs aren't legally certified to not bark at pot, someone facing trial for 10kgs of coke could argue that the search was illegal (prompted by the smell of legal pot) and might actually win and walk free - which looks bad on the prosecution team.
 
2013-03-20 03:52:24 PM

tricycleracer: tricycleracer: Put training pot dogs up for sale.

Wow, that was a clusterfark of words.


I think he found his stash.
 
2013-03-20 03:53:16 PM

King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.


Over the head the joke has gone
 
2013-03-20 03:55:29 PM
I do not agree with allowing dogs to be used to gain probable cause. I think drug sniffing dogs should be allowed only when there is already grounds for a search. This would include border crossings, airports and instances where the police already have a search warrent. The dog can not testify in court and therfore should not be used as a vehicle to gain probable cause where it did not exist before.
 
2013-03-20 03:55:38 PM

nmemkha: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

Done it one.

King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.

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Um, no he got it, as indicated by: "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions"
 
2013-03-20 03:55:53 PM

Rabbid_Squirrel: Because if the dogs aren't legally certified to not bark at pot, someone facing trial for 10kgs of coke could argue that the search was illegal (prompted by the smell of legal pot) and might actually win and walk free - which looks bad on the prosecution team.


Who's going to say that the dog was barking because of pot? It's your word against an animal that can't actually speak a language.

Here's how it works:

You get pulled over
Cop asks to search your vehicle
You say "No"
Cop says "Ok let me get the K-9 unit out here to make sure"
*30 minutes pass while you're technically being illegally detained*
Dog shows up
Handler signals for a bark
Dog barks (remember a dog can't say "I found pot!" all they can do is bark)
They tear apart your car from inside-to-out
If you're in Washington/Colorado, they find pot and let you go on your way saying "Ohh sorry, the dog must've gotten it wrong"
If you have something actually illegal, they'll say "Ohhh look what the dog smelled!"
You're now in handcuffs

A cop will never say the dog barked because it detected a specific substance, it just detected "something" in there and they now have the right to search for ANYTHING.
 
2013-03-20 03:56:28 PM

scottydoesntknow: King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.

No they don't, because of what you said before it. Instead of being pot, they'll claim it was coke, meth, heroin, [insert illegal narcotic here] that the dog picked up and still have probable cause to search. Your car could be completely brand-spanking new just driven off the lot and as long as the dog barks, they're justified in searching. The only difference now would be actually finding pot and not being able to do shiat about it besides harassing the person.

Wasn't there a supreme court ruling on drug-sniffing dogs recently? They basically said even if the dog has a fail rate of 90%, it's justified because they wouldn't have caught the actual bad 10% otherwise.


Better that 9 innocent men go to jail than one guilty man....WAIT, WHAT?
 
2013-03-20 03:57:01 PM

tricycleracer: 1.  Put training pot dogs up for sale.
2.  Sell to forgetful potheads who always loses their stash.
3.  Profit!


came here to say this but in a coherent way.
 
2013-03-20 03:57:09 PM
HAHA! Oh this is amusing since it is the strongest smelling of all the illegal drugs.
You never really needed a dog, but most people have no idea how to use their nose to distinguish smells so a dog is needed for this.

Police also lost a lot of money in asset stealing from this as well.  Yes, very funny.
 
2013-03-20 03:58:37 PM
Pot isn't legal, it's controlled. Pot dogs are still perfectly viable, because people can only have a very small amount before crossing into possession with intent territory.  Slow news day
 
2013-03-20 03:58:43 PM

tom baker's scarf: tricycleracer: 1.  Put training pot dogs up for sale.
2.  Sell to forgetful potheads who always loses their stash.
3.  Profit!

came here to say this but in a coherent way.


They could probably sell them to helicopter parents. There was a story on FARK last week I think about an agency that parents could hire to bring a drug dog inside their house. If the dog alerted to something, it was up to the parents to find it, but now they know you're hiding something.
 
2013-03-20 03:58:45 PM
I personally enjoyed the comment on the article claiming it was animal abuse to train them to sniff dangerous drugs.
 
2013-03-20 04:00:21 PM

echomike23: [25.media.tumblr.com image 440x327]


Came here for this...leaving satisfied.
 
2013-03-20 04:00:22 PM
Looks to me like an opportunity to reduce the number of cops. It's good for the budget.
 
2013-03-20 04:00:32 PM
Comment in TFA:  "Did Washington voters think about all the hard working drug sniffing dogs they might be putting out of work with the passage of this bill?"

 No, lady!  We were more concerned with arresting humans, housing them in jails, taxing for court costs, and ruining people's lives than canine employment prospects.
 
2013-03-20 04:00:37 PM

spentmiles: My dog barks whenever I get aroused.  Mostly because he's a light sleeper and always feels it go in.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-20 04:03:17 PM
I swear this is an old Adam Carolla bit.
 
2013-03-20 04:03:22 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?


Done in one
 
2013-03-20 04:04:24 PM

Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?


Already been done, here are the signs for
www.fieldandstream.com
1) Uranium in your suitcase
2) slave in your stagecoach
3) imports trying to dodge tariffs
4) precursors in the Pepsi bottle in your pants
 
2013-03-20 04:04:36 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?


I see what you did there.

My heart bleeds for the machine.
 
2013-03-20 04:06:11 PM

scottydoesntknow: tom baker's scarf: tricycleracer: 1.  Put training pot dogs up for sale.
2.  Sell to forgetful potheads who always loses their stash.
3.  Profit!

came here to say this but in a coherent way.

They could probably sell them to helicopter parents. There was a story on FARK last week I think about an agency that parents could hire to bring a drug dog inside their house. If the dog alerted to something, it was up to the parents to find it, but now they know you're hiding something.


Oh I'm so going to start this business. I'll get the dog to alert at every house and the watch the chaos unfold.
 
2013-03-20 04:12:15 PM

FARK rebel soldier: Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?

Already been done, here are the signs for
[www.fieldandstream.com image 618x555]
1) Uranium in your suitcase
2) slave in your stagecoach
3) imports trying to dodge tariffs
4) precursors in the Pepsi bottle in your pants


that "chocolate lab" sure looks a lot like a weimaraner.
 
2013-03-20 04:13:34 PM
We should just give them a different job. I say we put them in charge of reviewing search warrant applications (e.g. if the dog will bark for a treat, then the warrant is granted). Just think of all the time we could free up for our judges so they could focus on more important things!
 
2013-03-20 04:13:57 PM

Cymbal: I think the dogs will be of some use to China, and some other Asian countries. Unlike Americans, they know how to find alternate uses for something that has outlived it's primary purpose.


You mean like a TV show? Some manner of canine athletic competition? A Puppy Bowl perhaps?
 
2013-03-20 04:15:43 PM

King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.


Do they bark whenever they smell pot, or only when they're given a command to "get to work?"

I'm not sure they even bark.  An "alert" posture would seem sufficient, perhaps a signal such as pawing at the suspected location of  the pot.

/never met a drug-sniffing dog
 
2013-03-20 04:15:49 PM

FARK rebel soldier: Cymbal: I think the dogs will be of some use to China, and some other Asian countries. Unlike Americans, they know how to find alternate uses for something that has outlived it's primary purpose.

You mean like a TV show? Some manner of canine athletic competition? A Puppy Bowl perhaps?


I'm sure that bowls will be involved...
 
2013-03-20 04:16:30 PM

bhcompy: Pot isn't legal, it's controlled. Pot dogs are still perfectly viable, because people can only have a very small amount before crossing into possession with intent territory.  Slow news day


Umm in a couple states it is 100% legal.

It may fall into grey areas when you bring in the federal laws and agencies but "alerting to a legal substance' is not probable cause.
 
2013-03-20 04:18:12 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: I personally enjoyed the comment on the article claiming it was animal abuse to train them to sniff dangerous drugs.


Yes, it's abuse to train an animal to perform any unnatural behavior.  Pit bulls should be allowed to eat kids.
 
2013-03-20 04:19:49 PM
done in one. somebody remember to shut the lights off before you go
 
2013-03-20 04:20:05 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: I personally enjoyed the comment on the article claiming it was animal abuse to train them to sniff dangerous drugs.

Yes, it's abuse to train an animal to perform any unnatural behavior.  Pit bulls should be allowed to eat kids.


Oooh nice threadjack!
 
2013-03-20 04:22:03 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Pit bulls should be allowed to eat kids.


What the hell are you supposed to feed them?

1) There are tons of starving children in the world.
2) My dog also gets hungry.

So why not kill two birds with one stone? I see it as doing my part to be green.
 
2013-03-20 04:27:23 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?


stickerish.com
 
2013-03-20 04:28:32 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: FARK rebel soldier: Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?

Already been done, here are the signs for
[www.fieldandstream.com image 618x555]
1) Uranium in your suitcase
2) slave in your stagecoach
3) imports trying to dodge tariffs
4) precursors in the Pepsi bottle in your pants

that "chocolate lab" sure looks a lot like a weimaraner.


no that's a chocolate
 
2013-03-20 04:29:27 PM
An australian study showed drug dogs were at best 50% accurate and in reality had more false positives than real positives. Just replace them with a quarter for the officer to flip.
 
2013-03-20 04:43:28 PM
Train 'em to be Frisbee dogs.
 
2013-03-20 04:44:14 PM

King Something: It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.


Since the supreme court has ruled that a dog's bark nullifies the 4th amendment, why would cops retrain the dogs to bark less often than they do now?.
 
2013-03-20 04:45:30 PM

Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?


I've seen a drug dog than sits when it detects meth, speed, ecstacy, etc. The same dog starts pawing at the container with the cocaine, crack, heroin in it. It's just you train certain responses for certain smells.
 
2013-03-20 04:46:50 PM
Retrained or, better yet, sold.
 
2013-03-20 04:48:39 PM
"retrained"
 
2013-03-20 04:50:35 PM
And all the necessary funding for retraining would compound with the societal benefits of smaller prisons, fewer cases going in front of a judge (even if plea-bargaining), and all the tax revenue.

I still fail to see the problem here.
 
2013-03-20 05:02:36 PM
750,000 people have been put in prison for just pot crimes, about 40% more than all violent offenders.  It's mostly about taking their stuff and selling it for the cop's benefit.
 
2013-03-20 05:04:47 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?



Ron White:

We land in VeroBeach, and when we land I look out the window and there's three cops standin' there.
 Which is no big deal to me, because cops love me and so do firemen
A lot of times I'll get a police escort from the airport to the venue, and this, uh, wasn't one of those times.
I got out of the plane and there was a cop there, and he said, "Mr. White, we've been told that there are drugs on this plane by an anonymous tip." I said, "There are absolutely no drugs on that plane." I did have a little bit of weed in my bag, but I wasn't on the plane, so technically I'm not lyin' to this guy, but-- And he goes, "Well, do you mind if we search the aircraft?" I said, "You absolutely cannot search this aircraft unless you have probable cause, because I still have civil liberties, you know what I mean?" I do.[ Cheering ] They said, "Okay, well, we just want the drug dog to walk by it a couple times.
I said, "Fine," and the drug dog walks by a couple times.
Guy goes, "Well, the dog gave us the signal that there are drugs on the plane." I'm like, "No, he didn't. That dog didn't do anything. I was starin' straight at him."He didn't wink, blink, woof or paw." What's his signal, a blank stare?
That's all he did." He goes, "The dog says there's drugs on the plane." "I said there wasn't drugs on the plane.
Who are you gonna believe? Me or the-- [ Bleeps ] never mind, you know?" Now, I've got a show to go to. They spend an hour and a half goin' through this plane.
An hour and a half, and I'm just sittin' there goin', "Oh, come on." And they get finished. Of course, there is no drugs on the plane.00:10:49I knew there wasn't. I assume now they're gonna let me go, and I'll go do my show.
I was like, "Well, that's fine. You know, whatever." Then they go, "Well, now the dog needs to sniff that bag on your shoulder." I was like-- [ Imitates Scooby-Doo ] "Ruh-roh!" They found seven-eighths of a gram of marijuana in my bag.Now, when I have seven-eighths of a gram of marijuana, I consider myself to be... out of marijuana.
That is no weed.
And it's medical marijuana. It was prescribed to me by a doctor in California where I live.
I told the cop that. He said, "What did you tell the doctor to get a prescription for marijuana?" I said, "The doctor said, 'Do you have any symptoms that marijuana helps alleviate?' I said, 'Well, I get bummed when I run out of weed.'" Marijuana cures that.
They handcuffed me...
and put me in the back of a cop car and took me to jail.00:
I'm not whinin' about that. I broke the law.
That's fine. [ Bleeps ] this is Florida.
These cops drove by three meth labs and a dead hooker just to get there.


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I remember seeing an episode of Cops where the cops stop a guy and ask if they can have the dog run around his car. I watched that farking dog and the dog didn't indicate on a Goddamn thing. The only thing that dog did different was the cop pointed at the gas cap and the dog sniffed it briefly and went to move on, and the cop gave the dog a little tug back and pointed at the cap again and the dog gave it another brief sniff. Then the cop tells the guy the dog indicated, and they searched his car and found a joint under the driver's seat.
 
2013-03-20 05:18:43 PM
I'd suggest that they just be hired by the TSA, but the human agents would probably get jealous that the dogs would then get to put their noses in everyone's crotch.
 
2013-03-20 05:24:30 PM

scottydoesntknow: King Something: beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?

It's not that simple. They've been trained to bark when they smell pot (or when the handler gives the "say this guy has pot so that we can legally beat him to within an inch of his life and steal all his worldly possessions without the slightest chance of repercussions" command). If pot is not illegal, the dogs' barks become worthless to the cops -- they might as well be barking because the guy has steak or a cat in his car.

No they don't, because of what you said before it. Instead of being pot, they'll claim it was coke, meth, heroin, [insert illegal narcotic here] that the dog picked up and still have probable cause to search. Your car could be completely brand-spanking new just driven off the lot and as long as the dog barks, they're justified in searching. The only difference now would be actually finding pot and not being able to do shiat about it besides harassing the person.

Wasn't there a supreme court ruling on drug-sniffing dogs recently? They basically said even if the dog has a fail rate of 90%, it's justified because they wouldn't have caught the actual bad 10% otherwise.


From TFA: "A dog sniff on a car for us has never been a sole reason for getting a search warrant," Whitcomb said. "We've always used other factors made up a bunch of other lies."

Silly article.  Needed fixing.
 
2013-03-20 05:32:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: BarkingUnicorn: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: I personally enjoyed the comment on the article claiming it was animal abuse to train them to sniff dangerous drugs.

Yes, it's abuse to train an animal to perform any unnatural behavior.  Pit bulls should be allowed to eat kids.

Oooh nice threadjack!


He started it. :-)
 
2013-03-20 05:34:53 PM

lenfromak: Retrained or, better yet, sold.


For medicinal edibles.  "Our dog-nose tacos are chock full of cancer-fighting natural ingredients!"
 
2013-03-20 05:44:27 PM
Use them as avalanche rescue dogs, pretty much every skier I know is holdin'.....

/ win, win amirite?
 
2013-03-20 05:53:23 PM

Rev.K: Yeah, you're right. Let's just keep incarcerating non-violent potheads.


See how I crossed out the thing that was completely irrelevant?

You're welcome.
 
2013-03-20 05:55:22 PM

tricycleracer: 1.  Put training pot dogs up for sale.
2.  Sell to forgetful potheads who always loses their stash.
3.  Profit!


This man needs to be appointed to some sort of position or other. This is the kind of thinking we need in government.
 
2013-03-20 06:02:48 PM

Rabbid_Squirrel: Because if the dogs aren't legally certified to not bark at pot, someone facing trial for 10kgs of coke could argue that the search was illegal (prompted by the smell of legal pot) and might actually win and walk free - which looks bad on the prosecution team.


Somebody arrested for 10kgs of coke would have a *very* hard time arguing that the search was prompted by the dog indicating on pot, since drug dogs indicate on coke. Any judge would toss that objection out on its ear, rightfully.
 
2013-03-20 06:06:17 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: FARK rebel soldier: Russ1642: Can't they train the dogs to somehow indicate what drug they're detecting?

Already been done, here are the signs for
[www.fieldandstream.com image 618x555]
1) Uranium in your suitcase
2) slave in your stagecoach
3) imports trying to dodge tariffs
4) precursors in the Pepsi bottle in your pants

that "chocolate lab" sure looks a lot like a weimaraner.


No that definitely looks like a chocoate lab.
 
2013-03-20 06:09:04 PM
Your privacy is at the whim of an animal that licks its butt.

Sleep well citizen.....well at least til Fido get here.
 
2013-03-20 06:17:06 PM

spentmiles: My dog barks whenever I get aroused.  Mostly because he's a light sleeper and always feels it go in.


Your on a tear today!  Golf Clap!

As to not just relying on the dogs, tell that to the 70 or so people stopped on their way to Taos Ski Valley one day who were issued citations!  Shooting fish in a barrel.
 
2013-03-20 06:24:29 PM

beantowndog: Why would they forget how to bark on command?


Done in one.
 
2013-03-20 06:26:39 PM
what if they like getting stoned so much they bark just cause they wanna smell more and get hiiigh
 
2013-03-20 06:26:51 PM

New Age Redneck: Use them as avalanche rescue dogs, pretty much every skier I know is holdin'.....

/ win, win amirite?


Think you just gave some washed out k9s a new purpose!
 
2013-03-20 06:37:11 PM

spentmiles: My dog barks whenever I get aroused.  Mostly because he's a light sleeper and always feels it go in.


You dotted all the i's, but you forgot to cross a t.
 
2013-03-20 06:37:23 PM
Another problem that comes up is Washington hiring a "Drug Councillor" to decide how much pot should be licensed for growth...Why? The amount of drugs that should be grown is exactly the amount of pot that Washingtonians smoke. no more; no less. We need a hired hand to figger that out? Does the liquor board tell distillers how much to make? Then why pot? License as many as applies for it and let them sort it out. The dogs could be trained to detect quality.

/I could use "two-nose" pot
//can't afford four nose.
 
2013-03-20 06:40:30 PM

New Age Redneck: Use them as avalanche rescue dogs, pretty much every skier I know is holdin'.....

/ win, win amirite?


Ha! My buddy shattered his shin running into a tree while skiing, long story on that.. Anyway, we all run to him and of course it's the "ARE YOU OKAY?! WHAT CAN WE DO?!?!" routine and his first words were "Get the farkin weed out of my farkin pocket!" When they had to cut his pants to get to the leg, the medic said "your pocket smells horrible" and his response (being almost in shock and delirious) was "I ran over a skunk on the mountain!" The medic laughed and said "Don't worry, we'll throw away the pants."

/CSB
 
2013-03-20 06:43:52 PM
speaking of Getting High.  i just got Chapaghetti

it's reall good
u should get high and try some

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2013-03-20 07:09:33 PM

IRQ12: bhcompy: Pot isn't legal, it's controlled. Pot dogs are still perfectly viable, because people can only have a very small amount before crossing into possession with intent territory.  Slow news day

Umm in a couple states it is 100% legal.

It may fall into grey areas when you bring in the federal laws and agencies but "alerting to a legal substance' is not probable cause.


Which means it's not 100% legal.

Regardless, the article is specific to Washington, where 1 ounce is the legal possession limit.
 
2013-03-20 07:11:38 PM
Cops are upset about having to retrain their dog to bite people on command instead of providing false positives? Really? I thought they lived for this.
 
2013-03-20 07:12:37 PM
ct.fra.bz
 
2013-03-20 07:28:12 PM
t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-20 07:30:29 PM

ReverendJynxed: Cops are upset about having to retrain their dog to bite people on command instead of providing false positives? Really? I thought they lived for this.


what they SAY and what they DO are 2 ENTIRELY different matters!!
 
2013-03-20 07:30:35 PM

spentmiles: My dog barks whenever I get aroused.  Mostly because he's a light sleeper and always feels it go in.


My bestiality joke is old and busted compared to that.

Nice.
 
2013-03-20 08:26:26 PM
You know what would be funny? Dry your clothing with a sachet of pot, and drive the drug dogs crazy.

/As an added bonus, you can rub a shirt on all the cars at the mall.
 
2013-03-20 10:30:07 PM
Sorry, old yeller. Lets go out behind the barn. BLAMBLAMBLAM!
 
2013-03-21 01:52:29 AM

bhcompy: Pot isn't legal, it's controlled. Pot dogs are still perfectly viable, because people can only have a very small amount before crossing into possession with intent territory.  Slow news day


An ounce is perfectly legal, and not very small.
Purchase is controlled. Or will be once they finger out the regs.
 
2013-03-21 04:15:01 AM

Mikeyworld: Another problem that comes up is Washington hiring a "Drug Councillor" to decide how much pot should be licensed for growth...Why? The amount of drugs that should be grown is exactly the amount of pot that Washingtonians smoke. no more; no less. We need a hired hand to figger that out? Does the liquor board tell distillers how much to make? Then why pot? License as many as applies for it and let them sort it out. The dogs could be trained to detect quality.

/I could use "two-nose" pot
//can't afford four nose.


Yeah, I don't exactly see how that's supposed to work in Washington.  Did the legalization measure say anything about rationing?
 
2013-03-21 04:37:42 AM
Headline is false: such a need has already been seen. From the Cannabis Activist's Handbook:

"Cannabis Party policy demands that all drug dogs trained to bark upon detection of cannabis be retired from the police force. If homes for them cannot be found, they are to be looked after until the end of their natural lives from revenue generated by cannabis taxation."
 
2013-03-21 04:57:05 AM

MustTryHarder: Headline is false: such a need has already been seen. From the Cannabis Activist's Handbook:

"Cannabis Party policy demands that all drug dogs trained to bark upon detection of cannabis be retired from the police force. If homes for them cannot be found, they are to be looked after until the end of their natural lives from revenue generated by cannabis taxation."


So I'm paying more for bong hits till all the old drug dogs kick off? That sucks. Oh well....... burble burble burble...........
 
2013-03-21 07:50:20 AM

umad: We should just give them a different job. I say we put them in charge of reviewing search warrant applications (e.g. if the dog will bark for a treat, then the warrant is granted). Just think of all the time we could free up for our judges so they could focus on more important things!




Ruff!
 
2013-03-21 09:19:44 AM
Just mix pot in with their food. Then when they sniff or lick their own asses their training will kick in and they will alert. Hey, it's not a great idea, but at least it'll give them something to do with their time.
 
2013-03-21 10:29:26 AM
 
2013-03-21 12:48:07 PM

scottydoesntknow: You say "No"
Cop says "Ok let me get the K-9 unit out here to make sure"
*30 minutes pass while you're technically being illegally detained*
Dog shows up


No.  If a cop tells you he wants to wait for a K-9 unit, tell him to get bent. You may have 99 problems, but if a biatch ain't one, they can't detain you.  If such a thing occurs, record the cop telling you exactly why he's detaining you and what he's found to justify it.

PDF Link: http://slu.edu/Documents/law/Law%20Journal/Archives/LJ56-2_Mason_Arti c le.pdf  Reference Citation 35: Unnecessary prolongation of a traffic stop to allow for K9 transportation
 
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