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(The Register)   The US Patent Office thinks that talking to no one in particular is a novel invention   (theregister.co.uk) divider line 34
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2013-03-20 11:38:12 AM  
Um, Patent Office, I think Angry Women were already long patented
 
2013-03-20 12:00:47 PM  
Sounds suspiciously like Marconi's patent.
 
2013-03-20 12:01:22 PM  
Does this mean the patent office is filled with, or devoid of philosophers? hmmm...
 
2013-03-20 12:01:26 PM  
Patent's coming out.
 
2013-03-20 12:02:04 PM  
Hmmm. I may have to pay out some fees to whoever came up with that before I started doing it.
 
Ask
2013-03-20 12:07:10 PM  
Does this patent cover graffiti as well? Because that certainly is one way I never considered combating it.
 
2013-03-20 12:08:04 PM  
twitter < mud shout < son of sam the dog?
 
2013-03-20 12:08:23 PM  
The US Patton Office?

"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."
 
2013-03-20 12:12:44 PM  
Fark it, just approve 'em all and let the lawyers sort it out.
 
2013-03-20 12:22:00 PM  
Guess you don't have to be an Einstein to work at a patent office these days.
 
2013-03-20 12:24:28 PM  
One of my favorite Dilberts is where the pointy-haired boss is asking for a product name to allow twits write blogs using their cellphones.   The secretary suggests Twitter.
 
2013-03-20 12:24:58 PM  
Hasn't prayer been around for millennia?
 
2013-03-20 12:34:21 PM  
Umm, doesn't that patent describe Usenet?

Or for that matter, any public posting service like a blog or, a web site?
 
2013-03-20 12:39:45 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Umm, doesn't that patent describe Usenet?

Or for that matter, any public posting service like a blog or, a web site?


You mean like.... This?
 
2013-03-20 12:41:27 PM  
Why do people do things that piss me off? I don't even want to talk about it.  #stormthepetitionoffice
 
2013-03-20 12:44:41 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Fark it, just approve 'em all and let the lawyers sort it out.


Pretty much this.  Patent examiners don't have time to examine, so they outsource to the highest bidders.
 
2013-03-20 12:49:08 PM  
I hope none of you bastards have me favorited. You'll be owning Twitter some money.

/This post isn't addressed to any bastard in particular.
 
2013-03-20 12:52:35 PM  
It's original classification was wrong.  What a surprise.  Which means it was assigned to an examiner who examines things other than network and messaging BS on a regular basis.  After cursory review of claim 1, my immediate impression is that there's an RSS system that anticipates it.
 
2013-03-20 01:11:43 PM  
Does this mean that old men yelling at clouds while drawing crowds are violating the patent to tweet like the twits that they are?
 
2013-03-20 01:13:07 PM  

nickerj1: It's original classification was wrong.  What a surprise.  Which means it was assigned to an examiner who examines things other than network and messaging BS on a regular basis.  After cursory review of claim 1, my immediate impression is that there's an RSS system that anticipates it.


I don't know about that... RSS systems are pull based, while this is push based. In particular, an RSS system wouldn't be server side and broadcast messages out to each endpoint.
You'd probably get closer with listserv stuff.
 
2013-03-20 01:26:33 PM  
Prior art:

www.allmyfaves.com
 
2013-03-20 01:47:37 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Fark it, just approve 'em all and let the lawyers sort it out.


ah yes, the Albigensian approach to patent trolling.
 
2013-03-20 02:04:41 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Umm, doesn't that patent describe Usenet?

Or for that matter, any public posting service like a blog or, a web site?


No.  If you read the claims, it looks like it is patenting the ability to "follow" other users and get their updates.  Topic-based forums would probably be non-infringing.  I'm not sure if it is different than Facebook walls, tho'.  I just quickly scanned the claims.
 
2013-03-20 02:07:28 PM  

Holfax: Mr. Eugenides: Umm, doesn't that patent describe Usenet?

Or for that matter, any public posting service like a blog or, a web site?

No.  If you read the claims, it looks like it is patenting the ability to "follow" other users and get their updates.  Topic-based forums would probably be non-infringing.  I'm not sure if it is different than Facebook walls, tho'.  I just quickly scanned the claims.


Yeah. Why I mentioned Listserv is that you can subscribe to the list, and another user can send a message that doesn't need to identify you individually - the server will broadcast the message to all of the subscribers.
 
2013-03-20 03:11:33 PM  

Holfax: Mr. Eugenides: Umm, doesn't that patent describe Usenet?

Or for that matter, any public posting service like a blog or, a web site?

No.  If you read the claims, it looks like it is patenting the ability to "follow" other users and get their updates.  Topic-based forums would probably be non-infringing.  I'm not sure if it is different than Facebook walls, tho'.  I just quickly scanned the claims.


They patented cyberstalking!
 
2013-03-20 04:17:32 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Available for comment.
 
2013-03-20 06:11:31 PM  
I thought Twitter was just a texting program that lets others add themselves to your distribution list.

Am I missing something?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-20 08:13:43 PM  
If you read the claims, it looks like it is patenting the ability to "follow" other users and get their updates.

But a practically equivalent service was available since the 1980s: MIT's Zephyr. You subscribe to a set of destination triples (class, instance, recipient-username). Class and instance are strings. Instance can be a wildcard '*' and recipient-username can be the wildcard '*' or your own username. An access control list on the server can be used to limit sending or receiving messages on any of these triples.

This can be used to implement per-user following. Assign by convention (twitter, <username>, *) to mean tweets from <username> to anybody who is listening. I don't know whether Zephyr server software as delivered supports the ACL to do that securely, but security is not part of the first claim.  With the standard client it is easy to set up a filter in the receiver to reject any message that is not authenticated as coming from the person who "owns" the channel.

There have been multiple clients since the 1980s, and communication between sites (as opposed to within a site) since the early 1990s.
 
2013-03-20 08:25:26 PM  
I just joined Twitter(tm) (or dot com) 7 or 8 days ago, and my TwittingID is..
  AmiTwittings ( which is supposed to be Am I Twitting, or Am I Twitter, or  something like that ).

So msg me there, cause  The 1st one to msg me there gets a cookie yes, a cookie..
 a unique one which will allow anyone to hack into HIS pc !


so join me.. on twitter(.com).. do it now..
 
2013-03-20 08:32:21 PM  
Marriage is being patented now?

/Obvious
 
hej
2013-03-20 09:32:53 PM  
I wonder how much Twitter will pay me not to tell the patent office about IRC.
 
2013-03-20 09:55:44 PM  
Prior use is the homeless guy walking down the street, smelling like rum and piss, pushing his shopping cart.
 
2013-03-21 09:52:36 AM  

Holfax: Mr. Eugenides: Umm, doesn't that patent describe Usenet?

Or for that matter, any public posting service like a blog or, a web site?

No.  If you read the claims, it looks like it is patenting the ability to "follow" other users and get their updates.  Topic-based forums would probably be non-infringing.  I'm not sure if it is different than Facebook walls, tho'.  I just quickly scanned the claims.


Actually, most forums let me click on a user name and see all of their recent posts.  Same with just about every Usenet/NNTP client. A couple of game forums I follow have the ability to subscribe to certain users so you can see what the game developers are posting.  I'm seeing prior art all over the place.
 
2013-03-21 07:50:48 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Fark it, just approve 'em all and let the lawyers sort it out.


This is how we ended up with a jury finding that a rectangle with rounded corners was a unique idea by Apple.
 
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