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(The Consumerist)   Will EA remain reigning champ with its botched release of SimCity? Will Bank of America finally be able to seize the trophy? Will people remember that Carnival literally crapped on its customers? It's your annual Worst Company in America contest   (consumerist.com) divider line 189
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2013-03-20 02:19:57 PM

Voiceofreason01: Best Buy probably can't beat Walmart but let's keep in mind that Best Buy spent the first half of this year crying to Congress that they can't compete with their outdated business model and overpriced shiat and won't Congress please pass some laws to help out.


FTFY because why pay $29.99-34.99 for a new release bluray or $49.99-64.99 for a new release season of <insert show> on bluray when I can buy the same exact bluray, usually with extras, on Amazon for $10-35 less? That's why Best Buy can't compete.
 
2013-03-20 02:20:54 PM

RTOGUY: firefly212: gunga galunga: Elzar: Jesus there are a bunch of farking whiners about Sim City. I've played Sim City since a couple days after launch and no issues for me. Of course I am rather casual, but still...

I love the SimCity series but held off on this latest one after the bad press. How does it measure up to the others in the series?

It lacks the features and fun of SimCity predecessors... it's basically a facebook game, only without the facebook. I'm sure it's right for someone, but the lack of bulldozers to raise/lower terrain, the lack of subways and options like that, the dumbed-down AI, and the staggeringly small city maps that limit you to building East Davenport, IA (you can build it several times in the same region) are just too many factors to overcome. The initial server outages, and day 1 dlc, combined with EAs history of shuttering servers as soon as they release a follow up game, that's just icing on the cake.

The game is probably right for someone, but calling it SimCity is a gross misnomer.

That's my feeling as well. The lack of subways especially hurts because the maps are so small and traffic congestion can become a major game breaker. No power lines, no pipes, no ordinances, no prisons or military bases there are no real decisions at all for you to make except where to drop zones and roads. once the novelty wears off of the beatiful graphics and fun music it is an incredibly hollow Simcity experience.


i posted in another thread, but what the heck

since the new SimCity is a turd, i'm looking at playing an older game.  i've seen folks here talk about
Caesar III & Civilization 5

and i'm curious if anybody can point me to one of the two as "better"

also:  are  Caesar III & Civilization 5  like Halo Wars?  strategy game that is just a match, not ongoing like SimCity?

cheers
 
2013-03-20 02:21:24 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Having been personally affected by Bank of America and Comcast with bogus invoices, I'm hoping one of them "wins"
My only regret is that the "winners" will continue to be jerks and still make money.


Ah, I was wondering where the BofA hate was coming from. I bounced my account recently and they don't do the multiple charges for going over anymore, but I think that is thanks to probably the ONLY good thing congress has accomplished in decades. My girlfriend works with BoA verifying customer accounts with them and has nothing but good things to say about dealing with their reps - always professional and helpful unlike all the other banks she deals with.

Chase on the other hand, I've heard HORRIBLE things about from lots of different sources...
 
2013-03-20 02:22:00 PM
Chase should win it all. Fark Chase with a rusty screwdriver.
 
2013-03-20 02:24:49 PM
The list should entail every American company that has crossed the border to infest my beloved Socialist Canada, killing small businesses and large alike by selling crap we don't need that was manufactured by slave labour in the orient and Mexico.
 
  /never set foot inside a walmart, never gonna, now adding farking target to that idealogical list.
 
2013-03-20 02:26:01 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: wildcardjack: As someone who gets a lot of services through FedEx and UPS I gotta say neither belongs on the board. They're both six sigma grade companies and rarely present problems.

Ontrac and Lasership tend to be the ones that worry me. But it's not my choice which one carries my product, it's always about time and money as calculated by the elves.

Farking Ontrac. They tell Amazon they've delivered a package then their driver drops it off at 5 a.m the next morning.

If you lived in my neighborhood, you'd understand about thinking your package is outside, just waiting to be stolen.


Yeah, I love the e-mail confirmation my package has arrived a day before the package shows up. Took me a little while to figure out that it wasn't my packages being stolen.

/ shakes tiny fist
 
2013-03-20 02:26:54 PM

gunga galunga: Karac: gunga galunga: Elzar: Jesus there are a bunch of farking whiners about Sim City. I've played Sim City since a couple days after launch and no issues for me. Of course I am rather casual, but still...

I love the SimCity series but held off on this latest one after the bad press. How does it measure up to the others in the series?

From what I've heard: the city sizes are smaller, you (and EA's servers) have to be in constant contact, it's forced multiplayer, and because of the multiplayer aspect you can't save and reload.

That last bit is what would really irk me.  They've taken away the opportunity to say "GOD DAMN IT" and wipe out your city in a hailstorm of godzilla, meltdowns, and hurricanes - then reload the last save tomorrow.

Forced multiplayer? That's all I need to know. Thanks.


Yep. EA has decided that all your gaming will now be online so that they can charge you microtransaction fees. (Also for DRM purposes) Everything will, as I understand it, eventually be tied to a single EA login (or that's supposedly the plan) so that all your games, achievements, microtransactions, etc, can be linked--it's not unlink Ubisoft's Uplay, which does the same thing, or Blizzard's Battlenet. Difference is, EA, in Riccitiello's words, wants to charge you a buck for more ammo to finish your boss fight, which neither Uplay nor Battlenet does.
 
2013-03-20 02:27:39 PM

misguided: Walker: Well they didn't literally crap on their customers. The customers on the upper decks crapped on the customers on the lower decks.

so like trickle down?


Finally! We've been promised that for decades!
 
2013-03-20 02:28:00 PM
Bank of America for being thieving little biatches.


Oh, you don't have over a grand in your savings? We'll charge you monthly for being so poor.
 
2013-03-20 02:28:29 PM

fireclown: Peepeye: I don't know ... Wells Fargo could probably give them a run for their money.
My previous bank, Wachovia, was bought out by WF. I got at least one new charge or fee on my account every month for the next sixth months.
$20 overdraft protection fee - I haven't used it in the 15 years I had the account. Not once, even in high school.
$25 student account fee - because apparently they thought I was in the 30th grade of high school.
$10 fee for sending me new checks I never requested that now say WF on them.
$30 low balance / low use fee which they automatically charged everyone on the 1st of the month, but would refund at the end of the month if it didn't apply.

Great googley ,moogley.    I have two words:  Credit.  Union.


That's what Navy Federal is, and that's where all my money is now.  I had the account with a local bank because at one time my boss didn't offer direct deposit and the nearest NFCU branch or ATM was a two hour drive away.  I had set up the Navy Fed account because I was in the reserves and would face the reverse problem when I was activated / deployed / on my two weeks a year - the nearest Wachovia branch might be two continents away.

Well for that reason and because my drill instructors said that while they weren't allowed to tell us to set up an account with NFCU, they were allowed to tell us that we would physically regret - and quite soon -  not doing so.
 
2013-03-20 02:30:51 PM

Aigoo: because why pay $29.99-34.99 for a new release bluray or $49.99-64.99 for a new release season of <insert show> on bluray when I can buy the same exact bluray, usually with extras, on Amazon for $10-35 less? That's why Best Buy can't compete.


If you want it NOW, you pay the price.

BBY is D-U-N done. They can't make any money on the products they sell, because their overhead is so high, despite cutting salary, closing stores, etc. With the rise of online retailers, there's no margin....and they're stuck in leases that they can't get out of, all over the country.
 
2013-03-20 02:30:59 PM

netgamer7k: Bank of America for being thieving little biatches.


Oh, you don't have over a grand in your savings? We'll charge you monthly for being so poor.



For the longest time I saw Bank of America abbreviated as BofA.  I took me a long time to realize that it didn't mean Bank of farking America.
 
2013-03-20 02:33:20 PM

Elzar: Jesus there are a bunch of farking whiners about Sim City. I've played Sim City since a couple days after launch and no issues for me. Of course I am rather casual, but still...


We are talking about catering to the gaming community.... these people have high expectations and standards they have been fans of the sim city franchise for years...  considering how long its been since the last sim city title... expecting a certain level of quality is not unreasonable!
 
2013-03-20 02:35:24 PM

secularsage: Let's eviscerate a video game company once again because SimCity wasn't as great as it should have been!


As great as it should have been? You mean, unable to play a single-player game at all because they couldn't access the server?

It's not "entitled" when you legitimately cannot use a product or service you have paid/are paying for--as was the case in Sim City and as was the case for many months with SWTOR for many people with developer-acknowledged issues in crashing and BSODs (Tier 4&5--that would be the development team--tech support finally resolved my BSOD issues after 4 months last year with SWTOR and it was such an issue for players for months that there were sticky threads on the forums about it). And for SWTOR players who could not play despite paying a subscription, there was no compensation. (WB Games/Turbine compensates players in the form of an in-game item when there is extended downtime on a regular basis--I note that they are not on the list).

You might consider looking up the meaning of the word "entitled" before you throw it around before you make yourself sound like even more of an idiot.
 
2013-03-20 02:36:31 PM

Karac: netgamer7k: Bank of America for being thieving little biatches.


Oh, you don't have over a grand in your savings? We'll charge you monthly for being so poor.


For the longest time I saw Bank of America abbreviated as BofA.  I took me a long time to realize that it didn't mean Bank of farking America.


how is this different from any other bank?
 
2013-03-20 02:40:04 PM

netgamer7k: Bank of America for being thieving little biatches.


Oh, you don't have over a grand in your savings? We'll charge you monthly for being so poor.


Admittedly, Chase does that, but they give you a pass for setting up direct deposit.

/Started the year $40K in debt.
//Will end it less than $20K.
///They haven't screwed me yet, and having an ATM both here and when I go home to Michigan is nice.
 
2013-03-20 02:41:20 PM

wildcardjack: six sigma grade


LOL.
 
2013-03-20 02:41:46 PM
I end up doing some consulting work for major ag interests on the multinational level, and if nerds on the Consumerist are ready to vote EA the worst company in America because of a farking video game launch, they really are sheltered and out of touch. I get whispers of some really sinister shiat happening overseas from those companies and I imagine those are far worse.

But oh noes, my $60 video game didn't work right! Get a grip on reality and lose the entitlement. Some companies are, y'know, actually doing evil stuff.
 
2013-03-20 02:42:13 PM

MadCat: andyofne: gunga galunga: Karac: gunga galunga: Elzar: Jesus there are a bunch of farking whiners about Sim City. I've played Sim City since a couple days after launch and no issues for me. Of course I am rather casual, but still...

I love the SimCity series but held off on this latest one after the bad press. How does it measure up to the others in the series?

From what I've heard: the city sizes are smaller, you (and EA's servers) have to be in constant contact, it's forced multiplayer, and because of the multiplayer aspect you can't save and reload.

That last bit is what would really irk me.  They've taken away the opportunity to say "GOD DAMN IT" and wipe out your city in a hailstorm of godzilla, meltdowns, and hurricanes - then reload the last save tomorrow.

Forced multiplayer? That's all I need to know. Thanks.

Set up a private area and don't invite anyone. You're all alone.

True, but that still doesn't allow for you to nuke the city for fun then reload a previous save. This coupled with the extremely poor agent AI makes running a nuke power plant very very dangerous. Nuke plants require highly educated workers. Unskilled workers increase the chance of a meltdown. The way the agent AI works however is that a worker leaves residential and stops at the first building it encounters with an unfilled job slot. If that happens to be your nuke plant, and the worker happens to be one of the 10% of your population that never went to college... BOOM!!!


Really?


I mean....


Really?
 
2013-03-20 02:43:07 PM

oh_please: Aigoo: because why pay $29.99-34.99 for a new release bluray or $49.99-64.99 for a new release season of <insert show> on bluray when I can buy the same exact bluray, usually with extras, on Amazon for $10-35 less? That's why Best Buy can't compete.

If you want it NOW, you pay the price.


Or you go to Target or any number of stores that charge about the same as Amazon, plus or minus a buck or two. There is literally no reason at all for Best Buy to charge what they do. They're failing as a business because they are gouging, plain and simple. Target has overhead, too. So do many other stores (Walmart has some, but the way they 'pay' their people, it's minimal). They manage to keep their prices reasonable.

Fun fact: I looked up the price on a laptop on Best Buy's site and the manufacturer's site recently. Best Buy was charging $400 more than the manufacturer online and the laptop wasn't available in store. Shipping would have taken the same amount of time from both BBY and the manufacturer... so no, nothing at all to do with getting it NOW, everything to do with gouging. FWIW.. Walmart's online price on the same model was even higher! $600 more than the manufacturer and $200 more than Best Buy, so if you know Walmart fans, tell them to price check cause ol' Wallyworld ain't always the best deal.
 
2013-03-20 02:47:32 PM

inner ted: RTOGUY:
That's my feeling as well. The lack of subways especially hurts because the maps are so small and traffic congestion can become a major game breaker. No power lines, no pipes, no ordinances, no prisons or military bases there are no real decisions at all for you to make except where to drop zones and roads. once the novelty wears off of the beatiful graphics and fun music it is an incredibly hollow Simcity experience.

i posted in another thread, but what the heck

since the new SimCity is a turd, i'm looking at playing an older game.  i've seen folks here talk about
Caesar III & Civilization 5

and i'm curious if anybody can point me to one of the two as "better"

also:  are  Caesar III & Civilization 5  like Halo Wars?  strategy game that is just a match, not ongoing like SimCity?

cheers


Both are standalone games no multi-player required. Caesar 3 has a campaign mode you can play through but Civ 5 will give you more replay value with the random maps. Both are really good though keep in mind Caesar 3 is older and it shows but it is a fun and challenging game.


speckio: Elzar: Jesus there are a bunch of farking whiners about Sim City. I've played Sim City since a couple days after launch and no issues for me. Of course I am rather casual, but still...

We are talking about catering to the gaming community.... these people have high expectations and standards they have been fans of the sim city franchise for years...  considering how long its been since the last sim city title... expecting a certain level of quality is not unreasonable!


My standards are actually not that high at all. Just to throw this out there as an example of why people are complaining I just tried to play Simcity and got 15 minutes in when the game couldn't sync up with the server and it crashed. Not only did it crash but it actually corrupted my city  I had been playing for 3 days and the city can't be recovered. Since the only place you can save is the EA servers there is no autosave or rolling it back my game is just gone. That is the kind of crap nobody should have to put up with and there is no other product you can buy where the product can be so blatantly faulty and the consumer is told to just shut up and stop complaining and you actually have no recourse whatsoever.
 
2013-03-20 02:47:34 PM

gunga galunga: Elzar: Jesus there are a bunch of farking whiners about Sim City. I've played Sim City since a couple days after launch and no issues for me. Of course I am rather casual, but still...

I love the SimCity series but held off on this latest one after the bad press. How does it measure up to the others in the series?


It should have been called SimBorough. A lot of the complaints boil down to you're really one smaller city in a larger region. The social aspects allow one city to handle all the garbage collection, while another can handle electricity, etc. This is where the whole MMO aspect comes in. You can build "traditional" cities all by yourself, but it really pushes the "borrow your neighbor's assets and lend them your own" aspect. I've made a city that is nothing but an oil and coal town (horrible pollution, low class residents, but the city is rich as hell) and a city with no industrial zones, but full of casinos and tourist traps (while buying water, electricity, etc from neighbors). It's fun but somewhat removed from what SimCity has always been.
 
2013-03-20 02:49:37 PM
"Will EA remain reigning champ with its botched release of SimCity? "

What bizarre world does subby live in where EA are the reigning champ of anything in the video game world?
 
2013-03-20 02:49:49 PM

Electromax: I end up doing some consulting work for major ag interests on the multinational level, and if nerds on the Consumerist are ready to vote EA the worst company in America because of a farking video game launch, they really are sheltered and out of touch. I get whispers of some really sinister shiat happening overseas from those companies and I imagine those are far worse.

But oh noes, my $60 video game didn't work right! Get a grip on reality and lose the entitlement. Some companies are, y'know, actually doing evil stuff.


The problem with SimCity isn't so much that the $60 game doesn't work right. The problem is that EA charged $60 for a game that should have been released for free on Facebook and their customer service refuses to refund the customers that got bilked. Single player or multiplayer, DRM or no DRM, $60 should purchase a polished game that shows off the quality and skill of your development team, not a cobbled together mess of Javascript trying to be the next Farmville.
 
2013-03-20 02:50:35 PM

wildcardjack: Wade_Wilson: wildcardjack: As someone who gets a lot of services through FedEx and UPS I gotta say neither belongs on the board. They're both six sigma grade companies and rarely present problems.

Ontrac and Lasership tend to be the ones that worry me. But it's not my choice which one carries my product, it's always about time and money as calculated by the elves.

We now know Santa's Fark handle!

Didn't know you were outsourcing your deliveries, Santa, but I guess it's more efficient than the reindeer thing.

Also, I wanna bicycle.

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 540x960]


We might share the same outsourcing strategy and have big bellies and long beards, but mine's reddish brown, not white.


Quick question.... how does this work?

"I am 100% Fulfilled By Amazon"

So.... you have a storefront that sells items from Amazon, filled by Amazon, through Amazon?
 
2013-03-20 02:57:31 PM

MadCat: Electromax: I end up doing some consulting work for major ag interests on the multinational level, and if nerds on the Consumerist are ready to vote EA the worst company in America because of a farking video game launch, they really are sheltered and out of touch. I get whispers of some really sinister shiat happening overseas from those companies and I imagine those are far worse.

But oh noes, my $60 video game didn't work right! Get a grip on reality and lose the entitlement. Some companies are, y'know, actually doing evil stuff.

The problem with SimCity isn't so much that the $60 game doesn't work right. The problem is that EA charged $60 for a game that should have been released for free on Facebook and their customer service refuses to refund the customers that got bilked. Single player or multiplayer, DRM or no DRM, $60 should purchase a polished game that shows off the quality and skill of your development team, not a cobbled together mess of Javascript trying to be the next Farmville.


Yeah, I haven't played a SimCity game but the launch sounds like a mess and EA clearly has no clue what their fanbase wants, and is taking the MPAA approach of forcing down throats and expecting that to work. Old dudes in charge I guess.

I just don't think that is worth being the worst company in America, when you consider what many companies in America are doing that affect much larger/more unfortunate groups than the American social stratum that plays city-building PC games in the month after they launch. Like botching my SimCity/the things you mentioned are the greatest affront, but the healthcare/agriculture/military complexes are just fine.

EA belongs on a "Dumb Asshole" companies list, but not "worst" is a strong word.
 
2013-03-20 03:00:13 PM
My vote is for Congress.
 
2013-03-20 03:05:33 PM

Digital Communist: What bizarre world does subby live in where EA are the reigning champ of anything in the video game world?


The one where you realize that they are the reigning champ of suck? They won this award last year, and it's not the kind of award you'd want to win (And EA just laughed at it and shrugged it off, which show some massive level of disconnect between their heads and the people who give them money. But so does so many other things they do, so it's hardly surprising)
 
2013-03-20 03:11:22 PM

Electromax: MadCat: Electromax: I end up doing some consulting work for major ag interests on the multinational level, and if nerds on the Consumerist are ready to vote EA the worst company in America because of a farking video game launch, they really are sheltered and out of touch. I get whispers of some really sinister shiat happening overseas from those companies and I imagine those are far worse.

But oh noes, my $60 video game didn't work right! Get a grip on reality and lose the entitlement. Some companies are, y'know, actually doing evil stuff.

The problem with SimCity isn't so much that the $60 game doesn't work right. The problem is that EA charged $60 for a game that should have been released for free on Facebook and their customer service refuses to refund the customers that got bilked. Single player or multiplayer, DRM or no DRM, $60 should purchase a polished game that shows off the quality and skill of your development team, not a cobbled together mess of Javascript trying to be the next Farmville.

Yeah, I haven't played a SimCity game but the launch sounds like a mess and EA clearly has no clue what their fanbase wants, and is taking the MPAA approach of forcing down throats and expecting that to work. Old dudes in charge I guess.

I just don't think that is worth being the worst company in America, when you consider what many companies in America are doing that affect much larger/more unfortunate groups than the American social stratum that plays city-building PC games in the month after they launch. Like botching my SimCity/the things you mentioned are the greatest affront, but the healthcare/agriculture/military complexes are just fine.

EA belongs on a "Dumb Asshole" companies list, but not "worst" is a strong word.


While I agree with you that there are worse things happening in America than getting bilked by a videogame company, EA is a single easily identifiable entity. The healthcare/agricultural/military complexes are, well, complexes. It's hard to single out one company in any of them as worse then the others, and in a competition like this you need a clear winner. Big banks suffer from the same problem. They're all evil. The only reason BoA stands out is the historic rampant sheer disregard for due process in foreclosures.
 
2013-03-20 03:11:28 PM

the_sidewinder: Digital Communist: What bizarre world does subby live in where EA are the reigning champ of anything in the video game world?

The one where you realize that they are the reigning champ of suck? They won this award last year, and it's not the kind of award you'd want to win (And EA just laughed at it and shrugged it off, which show some massive level of disconnect between their heads and the people who give them money. But so does so many other things they do, so it's hardly surprising)


Ah, i didn't realize they won last year, which completely changes the headline.  You got me, subby.
 
2013-03-20 03:14:49 PM
No Monsanto? Meh.
 
2013-03-20 03:16:36 PM
I actually did up a bracket for WCIA this year.  So far I'm 100%.
 
2013-03-20 03:16:50 PM

germ78: No Monsanto? Meh.


You have to remember that this competition is from the consumer point of view. Monsanto is probably one of the most evil companies in the world, but the average person in the grocery store doesn't know and doesn't care.
 
2013-03-20 03:21:46 PM

MadCat: germ78: No Monsanto? Meh.

You have to remember that this competition is from the consumer point of view. Monsanto is probably one of the most evil companies in the world, but the average person in the grocery store doesn't know and doesn't care.


Exactly.... not to Godwin the thread, but, there are companies that are basically killing people in the name of profit... vs companies that basically are just screwing over consumers at their very worst.  But, to consumers, we happily don't want to look behind the curtain at how the products are made, we just get angry over customer service issues.
 
2013-03-20 03:21:55 PM

Medic Zero: Ah, I was wondering where the BofA hate was coming from. I bounced my account recently and they don't do the multiple charges for going over anymore, but I think that is thanks to probably the ONLY good thing congress has accomplished in decades. My girlfriend works with BoA verifying customer accounts with them and has nothing but good things to say about dealing with their reps - always professional and helpful unlike all the other banks she deals with.

Chase on the other hand, I've heard HORRIBLE things about from lots of different sources...


I had an account with BoA - I had a specific overdraft protection plan where I never get charged for bouncing a check, the balance comes out of my line of credit.  So I mistakenly transferred too much from my checking to my savings and I overdrafted a check.  Except 3 weeks later, within that very same period, Bank of America sent me my statement ALONG WITH a change to their terms.  The changes included dropping my overdraft protection plan and they charged me a $35 bounce fee.
I don't care what changes Congress may or may not have made - if they need laws to tell them how to properly treat a customer, they don't deserve customers.

My big Comcast story (tl;dr) ends with the girl behind the counter having a black eye, and everyone of us in line saying "as a person she didn't deserve it, but as an agent of Comcast, she did."
 
2013-03-20 03:25:20 PM

Electromax: Yeah, I haven't played a SimCity game but the launch sounds like a mess and EA clearly has no clue what their fanbase wants, and is taking the MPAA approach of forcing down throats and expecting that to work. Old dudes in charge I guess.I just don't think that is worth being the worst company in America, when you consider what many companies in America are doing that affect much larger/more unfortunate groups than the American social stratum that plays city-building PC games in the month after they launch. Like botching my SimCity/the things you mentioned are the greatest affront, but the healthcare/agriculture/military complexes are just fine.EA belongs on a "Dumb Asshole" companies list, but not "worst" is a strong word.


Maybe the fact that the results of this contest is being based on an online poll at the Consumerist web site should clue you in to that this is not an billion pound ultra serious investigative report into the inner dealings of every company in the entire US, and is instead just a half joking excuse to get audience participation and let people blow off steam about the companies that directly affect their lives?
 
2013-03-20 03:26:03 PM
My bracket has AT&T and BOA in the final.  In spite of what all the others have done, nothing compares to the sheer scope of consumer screwing these 2 companies have accomplished.
 
2013-03-20 03:30:59 PM

the_sidewinder: Digital Communist: What bizarre world does subby live in where EA are the reigning champ of anything in the video game world?

The one where you realize that they are the reigning champ of suck? They won this award last year, and it's not the kind of award you'd want to win (And EA just laughed at it and shrugged it off, which show some massive level of disconnect between their heads and the people who give them money. But so does so many other things they do, so it's hardly surprising)


Many video gamers are addicts. The dealer doesn't care if his customer are still BFF is they control most of hte supply.
 
2013-03-20 03:32:59 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Medic Zero: Ah, I was wondering where the BofA hate was coming from. I bounced my account recently and they don't do the multiple charges for going over anymore, but I think that is thanks to probably the ONLY good thing congress has accomplished in decades. My girlfriend works with BoA verifying customer accounts with them and has nothing but good things to say about dealing with their reps - always professional and helpful unlike all the other banks she deals with.

Chase on the other hand, I've heard HORRIBLE things about from lots of different sources...

I had an account with BoA - I had a specific overdraft protection plan where I never get charged for bouncing a check, the balance comes out of my line of credit.  So I mistakenly transferred too much from my checking to my savings and I overdrafted a check.  Except 3 weeks later, within that very same period, Bank of America sent me my statement ALONG WITH a change to their terms.  The changes included dropping my overdraft protection plan and they charged me a $35 bounce fee.
I don't care what changes Congress may or may not have made - if they need laws to tell them how to properly treat a customer, they don't deserve customers.

My big Comcast story (tl;dr) ends with the girl behind the counter having a black eye, and everyone of us in line saying "as a person she didn't deserve it, but as an agent of Comcast, she did."


Ideally we'd change to a credit union, but we live in an apartment with coin-op laundry. There's a BoA two doors down and no credit unions for miles, so we'll be sticking with BoA for several more years until I'm done with going back to school and get my new job making more pay.
 
2013-03-20 03:36:35 PM
Medic Zero:
Ideally we'd change to a credit union, but we live in an apartment with coin-op laundry. There's a BoA two doors down and no credit unions for miles, so we'll be sticking with BoA for several more years until I'm done with going back to school and get my new job making more pay.

This is exactly why they have customers.  So many branches and ATMs.  After the change, I never have cash on me and have to plan my stops to a bank.  Still worth it for me.
 
2013-03-20 03:36:38 PM

Hobodeluxe: You Must Construct Additional Pylons.: Hobodeluxe: my picks.
anyone sponsoring hate.
ie. Rush Limbaugh show
Chic fil A

Chic-Fil-A never told me the gays were bad nor did they ever discriminate against anyone based on sexual preference.

But continue your boycott you've given them record profits.

no they just contribute to the cause to keep them classified as second class citizens.
and yes there is profit in hate sad to say. but they're not getting my money.


I really wish more people would boycott chic-fil-a. Maybe then I could get a chicken sandwich at lunchtime without waiting in line for half an hour.
 
2013-03-20 03:50:35 PM

Karac: fireclown: Bank Of America.  Simply awful.

I don't know ... Wells Fargo could probably give them a run for their money.
My previous bank, Wachovia, was bought out by WF.  I got at least one new charge or fee on my account every month for the next sixth months.
$20 overdraft protection fee - I haven't used it in the 15 years I had the account.  Not once, even in high school.
$25 student account fee - because apparently they thought I was in the 30th grade of high school.
$10 fee for sending me new checks I never requested that now say WF on them.
$30 low balance / low use fee which they automatically charged everyone on the 1st of the month, but would refund at the end of the month if it didn't apply.

Sure, I got them to refund or rescind every one of those fees, but enough was well and farking enough.  The manager couldn't quite understand why I wanted to close my account the last time I went in.  She also seemed personally offended I wouldn't take a check and demanded cash money.  My other account, and only now, is with Navy Fed.  The nearest branch may be 200 miles away, but they've never tried to screw me over.


my biggest gripe with NFCU was that they were fine to deal with in person, and fine to deal with as long as you were handling transactions purely through them(car loan etc, all under them), but the minute you got outside writing more than a check a week, or heaven forbid, using debit, they completely dropped the ball and lost their shiat, not unlike a cocker spaniel with ADD.

in all seriousness, the negligence was unbelievable, and their ability to look like a bunch of retards all trying to dry hump the same park toy was unparalleled. so i went to a professional bank. left THAT bank because of how they were manipulating the timing of charges/deposits so they could tag me with overdrafts, and went to a local credit union that's respectable.

and it was a good day.
 
2013-03-20 04:07:51 PM

Medic Zero: misguided: Walker: Well they didn't literally crap on their customers. The customers on the upper decks crapped on the customers on the lower decks.

so like trickle down?

Finally! We've been promised that for decades!


If it's EA, the "trickle down" will be pixelated.
 
2013-03-20 04:12:53 PM
I vote for Capcom.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-20 04:14:22 PM
Weyland-Yutani

Union Aerospace Corporation

Umbrella Corp

Monsanto

My final 4
 
2013-03-20 04:14:24 PM
obvious
i2.ytimg.com
 
2013-03-20 04:26:30 PM

MBooda: Medic Zero: misguided: Walker: Well they didn't literally crap on their customers. The customers on the upper decks crapped on the customers on the lower decks.

so like trickle down?

Finally! We've been promised that for decades!

If it's EA, the "trickle down" will be pixelated paid DLC.


FTFY
 
2013-03-20 04:38:42 PM

xria: Electromax: Yeah, I haven't played a SimCity game but the launch sounds like a mess and EA clearly has no clue what their fanbase wants, and is taking the MPAA approach of forcing down throats and expecting that to work. Old dudes in charge I guess.I just don't think that is worth being the worst company in America, when you consider what many companies in America are doing that affect much larger/more unfortunate groups than the American social stratum that plays city-building PC games in the month after they launch. Like botching my SimCity/the things you mentioned are the greatest affront, but the healthcare/agriculture/military complexes are just fine.EA belongs on a "Dumb Asshole" companies list, but not "worst" is a strong word.

Maybe the fact that the results of this contest is being based on an online poll at the Consumerist web site should clue you in to that this is not an billion pound ultra serious investigative report into the inner dealings of every company in the entire US, and is instead just a half joking excuse to get audience participation and let people blow off steam about the companies that directly affect their lives?


Yes, but I don't have a sense of humor!
 
2013-03-20 04:49:51 PM

wildcardjack: As someone who gets a lot of services through FedEx and UPS I gotta say neither belongs on the board. They're both six sigma grade companies and rarely present problems.

Ontrac and Lasership tend to be the ones that worry me. But it's not my choice which one carries my product, it's always about time and money as calculated by the elves.


FedEx would be great if their drivers could read a map.  I've had 2 overnight packages returned to sender because their driver decided that my apartment didn't exist.  Didn't check with the office, just decided the address was wrong.  Protip: #47 is right between 46 and 48.

Called customer service, and got nothing but excuses.  The biatch on the phone even tried to tell me the address was invalid.  Funny, UPS has no problems finding it.
 
2013-03-20 04:52:41 PM

inner ted: RTOGUY: firefly212: gunga galunga: Elzar: Jesus there are a bunch of farking whiners about Sim City. I've played Sim City since a couple days after launch and no issues for me. Of course I am rather casual, but still...

I love the SimCity series but held off on this latest one after the bad press. How does it measure up to the others in the series?

It lacks the features and fun of SimCity predecessors... it's basically a facebook game, only without the facebook. I'm sure it's right for someone, but the lack of bulldozers to raise/lower terrain, the lack of subways and options like that, the dumbed-down AI, and the staggeringly small city maps that limit you to building East Davenport, IA (you can build it several times in the same region) are just too many factors to overcome. The initial server outages, and day 1 dlc, combined with EAs history of shuttering servers as soon as they release a follow up game, that's just icing on the cake.

The game is probably right for someone, but calling it SimCity is a gross misnomer.

That's my feeling as well. The lack of subways especially hurts because the maps are so small and traffic congestion can become a major game breaker. No power lines, no pipes, no ordinances, no prisons or military bases there are no real decisions at all for you to make except where to drop zones and roads. once the novelty wears off of the beatiful graphics and fun music it is an incredibly hollow Simcity experience.

i posted in another thread, but what the heck

since the new SimCity is a turd, i'm looking at playing an older game.  i've seen folks here talk about
Caesar III & Civilization 5

and i'm curious if anybody can point me to one of the two as "better"

also:  are  Caesar III & Civilization 5  like Halo Wars?  strategy game that is just a match, not ongoing like SimCity?

cheers


I really love civ 5, and there are tons of great mods out for it.
 
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