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2013-03-20 11:24:32 AM
Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.
 
2013-03-20 11:49:11 AM
i'm guessing that "not-squaredance" is considered exotic there.
 
2013-03-20 12:20:12 PM
Man Le Garrett, Krystal McLaughlin and Jane Roe filed the most recent state court lawsuit

Clearly Krystal's parents had already planned for her future career, but I have no idea how Man ended up on the pole.
 
2013-03-20 12:27:05 PM
I assume almost anything that comes into West Virginia is exotic.
 
2013-03-20 12:28:21 PM

nekom: Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.


So you're saying they have at least one tooth?
 
2013-03-20 12:28:54 PM
by exotic they mean "more than three teeth"
 
2013-03-20 12:28:58 PM
Well, anyone not in your immediate family is exotic to some.
 
2013-03-20 12:30:17 PM
Well yeah, grandma has to get her meth money somehow.

/what?
//she's only 27
 
2013-03-20 12:30:23 PM
I've seen the clubs in WV, there's a large number of them set up in double-wide trailers...pure class.
 
2013-03-20 12:31:09 PM
Ask this guy

www.theage.com.au

...about exotic dancers in WV
 
2013-03-20 12:31:12 PM
Of course they do.  They're called "cousins".
 
2013-03-20 12:31:15 PM

nekom: Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.


So minimal stretch marks since they've only gotten to having one kid so far
 
2013-03-20 12:31:25 PM
Has anyone mentioned that exotic in WV means having teeth?

/because I was going to say that.
//dammit
 
2013-03-20 12:31:56 PM
Ah Martinsburg, the pus filled canker on the phallus of WV.

/library was the only good thing in the 'burg
 
2013-03-20 12:32:06 PM
They can be fully nude in West Virginia as well.
 
2013-03-20 12:33:26 PM

Girion47: I've seen the clubs in WV, there's a large number of them set up in double-wide trailers...pure class.


IIRC, "double wide" didn't just apply to the trailers.
 
2013-03-20 12:34:14 PM
Subbys Mom.
 
2013-03-20 12:34:39 PM
We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.
 
2013-03-20 12:34:52 PM
 
2013-03-20 12:34:58 PM

Grestep: They can be fully nude in West Virginia as well.


Fully nude + booze + smoking indoors.

/or so I've heard.
 
2013-03-20 12:35:25 PM
Really? I figured all the hot women just hung out at the library all day.
 
2013-03-20 12:36:02 PM
It's all according to how you define exotic? Fat girls dancing nekkid to banjo music is exotic to many.
 
2013-03-20 12:36:12 PM

FlashHarry: i'm guessing that "not-squaredance" is considered exotic there.


Exotic means different, unusual or foreign so in this case it means cousin instead of sister
 
2013-03-20 12:36:46 PM
Wow, ok. So you pay $20 for a one song lap dance, and half gets kicked back to the house. I wish I made $10 every 5 mins.
 
2013-03-20 12:38:10 PM
I more shocked to find out they have lawyers in WV.
 
2013-03-20 12:38:31 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Grestep: They can be fully nude in West Virginia as well.

Fully nude + booze + smoking indoors.

/or so I've heard.


T's Lounge, Pompano, FL.

Full nude/full liquor/smoking

/or so I've known
 
2013-03-20 12:39:25 PM
$35 for each private dance, $30 for each 30-minute Champagne Room dance, ... $10 for each 5-minute private dance, $25 for each 15-minute private dance

How many types of "private dances" are there? How much do they charge for the dances, $50 each? Those fees seem pretty high, but by working there you agree to pay them. Don't like it, get another job.

/just wait until the IRS gets a hold of these girls names and makes them pay back taxes.
 
2013-03-20 12:39:43 PM

LeroyBourne: Wow, ok. So you pay $20 for a one song lap dance, and half gets kicked back to the house. I wish I made $10 every 5 mins.


Nothing is stopping you from moving to WV and becoming a stripper.

Go for it sport.
 
2013-03-20 12:40:23 PM
I've been to a couple of WV strip clubs, and there was some scary shiat in there. Those are some broad broads
 
2013-03-20 12:40:39 PM

nekom: Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.


Hmm...booklearnin' girls?  That IS exotic.
 
2013-03-20 12:40:46 PM

vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.


I was arrested for trying to sell books in Paw Paw. I got out of it. No one there could prove they were books.


/not really arrested
//did really go door to door trying to sell books
 
2013-03-20 12:41:42 PM

Grestep: They can be fully nude in West Virginia as well.


Indeed, and serve alcohol. IIRC here in PA they can only be fully nude if no alcohol is served. Or something like that. People drink in the parking lot. My 21st birthday involved a strip club outside of Morgantown. The beer, by the way, is free. Was anyway. Buddy's brother in law got a DUI. Good times.
 
2013-03-20 12:42:09 PM
West Virginia titty bars are well known as some of the coolest places to hang out in the DC Metro area.  No pasties, no rules!  They were naked, totally naked.

//Actually, there are lots of rules.  Like no dancing.  I went there w/a race car driver once (in a large group of people) and he got kicked out for it.  "No one dances 'cept the strippers, bub."  The was the night before I went to law school.
 
2013-03-20 12:43:33 PM

flynn80: I more shocked to find out they have lawyers in WV.


Seriously? They sue for EVERYTHING in WV.
 
2013-03-20 12:43:39 PM
In WV exotic refers to someone that's not a blood relative.
 
2013-03-20 12:44:05 PM

Pavia_Resistance: vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.

I was arrested for trying to sell books in Paw Paw. I got out of it. No one there could prove they were books.


/not really arrested
//did really go door to door trying to sell books


As an Amazon Marketplace dealer I got a chuckle out of that. Were you doing this in the 19th century, when door to door salesmen would take sample sets of books out looking for subscribers to the series?
 
2013-03-20 12:44:11 PM
Please- the correct term is "ecdysiast."  "Exotic dancer" always makes me think of those Balinese girls wearing gold costumes.  Which, perhaps, is what the people of WV are into.  Maybe they're more comopolitan than I gave them credit for.
 
2013-03-20 12:44:13 PM

mrlewish: LeroyBourne: Wow, ok. So you pay $20 for a one song lap dance, and half gets kicked back to the house. I wish I made $10 every 5 mins.

Nothing is stopping you from moving to WV and becoming a stripper.

Go for it sport.


I could make a nice profit from cash made to keep my clothes on.
 
2013-03-20 12:46:24 PM
In West virginia "Exotic" means that they are not related to you.
 
2013-03-20 12:46:48 PM

flynn80: I more shocked to find out they have lawyers in WV.


Spent a couple years in small town WV. Tons of lawyers in the phone book.
 
2013-03-20 12:47:10 PM
about ten years ago, i spent a few days in Bluefield, WV, and across the street from our hotel was a strip club.    i didn't venture inside (the Mrs. wouldn't approve), but a few guys that were in our tour group did.  from my understanding, the quality of the women were *exactly* what you would expect in the heart ofAppalachia.

/not that there's anything wrong with that
//the all-in-one gas station/grocery store/liquor and beer store/gambling parlor/porn shop next door was pretty cool though
 
2013-03-20 12:47:57 PM
Hmmm. I always thought that where almost heaven was. Right along side the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Shenandoah River
 
2013-03-20 12:48:48 PM
 Came here for the inevitable toothless/incestuous/overweight WV references.
 /not leaving disappointed
 //old stereotypes never die
 ///neither do slashies
 
2013-03-20 12:49:44 PM
What's a shower show and is the massage setting used?
 
2013-03-20 12:50:12 PM

squealie: Came here for the inevitable toothless/incestuous/overweight WV references.
 /not leaving disappointed
 //old stereotypes never die
 ///neither do slashies


The stereotype would die sooner if it weren't so accurate.
 
2013-03-20 12:50:21 PM
And this thread is fine without pics....
 
2013-03-20 12:50:57 PM

vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.


There was a strip bar in Springfield, WV (Mother McCrees) where the prettiest girl looked like Andrea Martin.

Not that Andrea was 'ugly', per se, but not 'stripper pretty'. (or busty)
 
2013-03-20 12:53:31 PM
"It seems to be an industry problem," Greenberg said. "The problem is clubs are charging employees to come to work. It's devastating when you think about it ... you pay for the privilege of coming to work."

ah, sex workers.  well will they need be getting screwed?
 
2013-03-20 12:54:48 PM
If they have to pay their employer so they can dance, to me that = "Fugly"!
 
2013-03-20 12:54:54 PM
I've been to 2 of the clubs listed in TFA.  Pretty meh, but hey, drinks and naked girls isn't ALL bad.
 
2013-03-20 01:00:49 PM
There's a reason strip clubs are dark.
 
2013-03-20 01:01:27 PM

Bermuda59: In West virginia "Exotic" means that they are not related to you.


And we have a Winner!

(really, I wonder how they are paying their lawyers, ifyouknowwhatImean...)
 
2013-03-20 01:02:37 PM

TheGreatGazoo: There's a reason strip clubs are dark.


So the dancers don't have to get a good look at the fat,ugly, customer?
 
2013-03-20 01:03:58 PM

StoPPeRmobile: TheGreatGazoo: There's a reason strip clubs are dark.

So the dancers don't have to get a good look at the fat,ugly, customer?


Well that too. It works for both sides quite well.
 
2013-03-20 01:04:24 PM
"Some friends of mine asked me if I wanted to go to a strip club, and I didn't... want to.  'Cause, back me up on this, fellas: once you've seen one woman naked, you... wanna see the rest of 'em naked."
 
2013-03-20 01:04:31 PM

nekom: Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.


Offer not valid in Wheeling.
 
2013-03-20 01:07:06 PM
The only strip club I've been to is in WV (for my brother's 21st birthday) and it had decent looking girls.  We were getting ready to leave then the only black girl there came on stage.  All the hill-jacks left the stage seating as soon as she walked out.  When my then-girlfriend-now-wife saw this she walked right up to the stage, gave the girl a $10 bill, and had a quick, not-too-quiet chat about how the guys there were rude jackasses for leaving and how my now-mother-in-law was once a stripper after she moved to Nevada.

/ending the night at a strip club was her idea
//never met my mother-in-law
 
2013-03-20 01:11:40 PM

wildcardjack: Pavia_Resistance: vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.

I was arrested for trying to sell books in Paw Paw. I got out of it. No one there could prove they were books.


/not really arrested
//did really go door to door trying to sell books

As an Amazon Marketplace dealer I got a chuckle out of that. Were you doing this in the 19th century, when door to door salesmen would take sample sets of books out looking for subscribers to the series?


Late Spring/early Summer 1990, between my junior and senior years of college. It was encyclopedias or something like that published by Grolier. I wasn't making any money because I didn't sell anything (no one did) so I left after a few weeks.
 
2013-03-20 01:12:18 PM
has anyone made a toothless \incest joke yet?
 
2013-03-20 01:12:58 PM
This sounds like a similar lawsuit some strippers brought up in Florida(?). Dancers are independent contractors but they are restrained by certain club rules and must pay part of their tips back to the club. Might be brain melt, but the previous lawsuit included who had to pay for a strippers unemployment insurance.

Can't Google it at work. The wonderful, brilliant and I dare say handsome administrators are probably monitoring my every click. It was a mistype, I tells you. I meant to go to ConsolidatedSecurityCenter.com and typed p0rnhub by accident.
 
2013-03-20 01:17:17 PM
By the way, I have a sister in law, a cousin, an aunt, an second cousin and a second cousin twice removed living there. It's been a while. I guess I should call her.
 
2013-03-20 01:20:51 PM

MFAWG: nekom: Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.

Offer not valid in Wheeling.


Is it bad there? The only one I've ever been to was outside of Morgantown. I thought about stopping at the one by the casino next time I'm out that way.
 
2013-03-20 01:30:29 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: West Virginia titty bars are well known as some of the coolest places to hang out in the DC Metro area.  No pasties, no rules!  They were naked, totally naked.

//Actually, there are lots of rules.  Like no dancing.  I went there w/a race car driver once (in a large group of people) and he got kicked out for it.  "No one dances 'cept the strippers, bub."  The was the night before I went to law school.


1. West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area.
2. DC strip clubs are totally nude, as well.
3. There are lots of them.
 
2013-03-20 01:32:34 PM

LeroyBourne: Wow, ok. So you pay $20 for a one song lap dance, and half gets kicked back to the house. I wish I made $10 every 5 mins.


Get a job as a waiter in a mid-price restaurant.  Seriously, count the minutes a server spends working for you specifically.
 
2013-03-20 01:33:11 PM
www.godfreydaniels.org

Chromosome, NC is near West Virginia, right?

/Smitty needs to find a copy of  Roberta by the Rev. Billy C. Wirtz and crank it up really, really loudly
 
2013-03-20 01:35:26 PM
www.lipizzaner.com
West Virginia Exotic Dancer

OH Sorry my bad ERRATIC dancers
www.boblangrish.com

or if you're in the mood - no, I can't do it.  there's no warning so I won't
"horse face and company on horse back UGH!.jpeg"
 
2013-03-20 01:36:37 PM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Please- the correct term is "ecdysiast."  "Exotic dancer" always makes me think of those Balinese girls wearing gold costumes.  Which, perhaps, is what the people of WV are into.  Maybe they're more comopolitan than I gave them credit for.


Thank Gypsy Rose Lee and H. L. Mencken for that lovely word.
 
2013-03-20 01:36:53 PM

chitownmike: has anyone made a toothless \incest joke yet?


Inbred by Billy C. Wirtz.  'Nuff said.
 
2013-03-20 01:38:08 PM

mike_d85: What's a shower show and is the massage setting used?


Transparent shower stall in which girls lather up lasciviously.  Sometimes birthday boys and grooms being led to slaughter are allowed in there.
 
2013-03-20 01:38:25 PM
Am I too late to suggest that in WV, "exotic" means that she has all her teeth?
 
2013-03-20 01:40:15 PM
The industry's comp system is corrupt and grossly unfair.  I'm glad to see dancers fighting it.  But I wonder what's going to replace it and how dancers' incomes will be affected.
 
2013-03-20 01:40:54 PM
Seriously!? Almost 70 comments in and no one mentions that the business is called TNA LLC!? Tits & A$$ Limited Liability Corp...Sounds like they let their 15 year old son name the business.

//Checking to see if that name's open in Nevada...
 
2013-03-20 01:42:14 PM

que.guero: Am I too late to suggest that in WV, "exotic" means that she has all her teeth?


Means she hit the local Lowes for some gold spray paint to huff before the show.
 
2013-03-20 01:43:56 PM

Mateorocks: 1. West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area.



Actually, the far-east part of the eastern panhandle is.
 
2013-03-20 01:44:58 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: I've been to 2 of the clubs listed in TFA.  Pretty meh, but hey, drinks and naked girls isn't ALL bad.


"Sex without love is a meaningless experience, but as far as meaningless experiences go its pretty damn good."  Woody Allen.
 
2013-03-20 01:46:12 PM
I live in the eastern panhandle of WV and along the WV/VA border there is a high concentration of strip clubs.  A lot of the girls that work there live out of state but can make better money working there.  Lots of people from out of state come to these clubs because the girls get all nude.  Smoking and drinking is also allowed.  The girls in this area are usually pretty good looking too (see the out of state comment).
 
2013-03-20 01:49:20 PM

Mateorocks: . West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area


I live in the eastern panhandle and I can be in DC in an hour.  Lots and lots of commuters live here.  Given, the eastern panhandle is an oddly tacked on bit of land for the rest of the state (seriously, look at it on a map), but it is indeed part of the DC Metro area.
 
2013-03-20 01:52:35 PM

Harry Freakstorm: This sounds like a similar lawsuit some strippers brought up in Florida(?). Dancers are independent contractors but they are restrained by certain club rules and must pay part of their tips back to the club. Might be brain melt, but the previous lawsuit included who had to pay for a strippers unemployment insurance.



I've counted at least a dozen such suits in the past couple of years, and the clubs have settled or lost every one.  Spearmint Rhino settled for $13.5 million.  Workers comp is a bigger issue than unemployment insurance.  Many injuries occur on stage, from torn knees  to broken necks.
 
2013-03-20 01:55:46 PM

Grestep: Mateorocks: 1. West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area.

Actually, the far-east part of the eastern panhandle is.


It's about two hours to get to a West Virginia border from DC.

I will accept that Baltimore, not DC, could be considered a main metro hub for some residents of West Virginia. I've never been there, but I'm guessing that folks in Morgantown would consider Pittsburgh to be their main metro hub.

If I'm wrong, and there are thousands and thousands of folks living in WV walking around wearing RGIII jerseys or Nats hats, please forgive my ignorance.
 
2013-03-20 01:58:22 PM

sambee: If they have to pay their employer so they can dance, to me that = "Fugly"!


Girls at the Spearmint Rhino in Vegas pay $400 to come work the weekend.

/One of the girls I was "talking" to claimed as much anyway.
 
2013-03-20 01:59:18 PM

Spindle: Mateorocks: . West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area

I live in the eastern panhandle and I can be in DC in an hour.  Lots and lots of commuters live here.  Given, the eastern panhandle is an oddly tacked on bit of land for the rest of the state (seriously, look at it on a map), but it is indeed part of the DC Metro area.


Again,I'm not saying it's not a terrible distance away, I know plenty of folks from West Virginia. What I'm saying is that it's no more considered a part of "Metro DC" than Delaware.
 
2013-03-20 01:59:30 PM

que.guero: Am I too late to suggest that in WV, "exotic" means that she has all her teeth?


Yes, yes you are.  Find some new material.

I've been to strip clubs around Morgantown where the girls are university co-eds and don't look too bad, some downright hot (and with a full set of teeth!).  Then again, the night before my wedding my groomsmen took me to an absolute shiathole near Jane Lew where it was a trailer backed up to a house, and the women were what you'd expect for such a highbrow establishment.  My favorite had to be at a place that has since burned down.  They lost their liquor license so they advertised as BYOB and a $10 cover.  Those patrons at least 21 also got a plastic cup and were directed to the "free" keg.  Those under 21 got a black marker X on their hand that easily washed off.

Grestep: The only strip club I've been to is in WV (for my brother's 21st birthday) and it had decent looking girls.  We were getting ready to leave then the only black girl there came on stage.  All the hill-jacks left the stage seating as soon as she walked out.  When my then-girlfriend-now-wife saw this she walked right up to the stage, gave the girl a $10 bill, and had a quick, not-too-quiet chat about how the guys there were rude jackasses for leaving and how my now-mother-in-law was once a stripper after she moved to Nevada.


One bachelor party I went to we ended up at a club outside town and we sent our groom to the back room with the lone black girl.  He seemed to enjoy himself with "Venus".  Then at the wedding reception we slipped a Bananarama tape to the DJ.

/His new bride loved the song and started dancing.
//He was pissed.
 
2013-03-20 02:06:23 PM

dentalhilljack: 've been to strip clubs around Morgantown where the girls are university co-eds and don't look too bad, some downright hot (and with a full set of teeth!). Then again, the night before my wedding my groomsmen took me to an absolute shiathole near Jane Lew where it was a trailer backed up to a house, and the women were what you'd expect for such a highbrow establishment. My favorite had to be at a place that has since burned down. They lost their liquor license so they advertised as BYOB and a $10 cover. Those patrons at least 21 also got a plastic cup and were directed to the "free" keg. Those under 21 got a black marker X on their hand that easily washed off.


IF you get a chance, there is a nuditorium near Hattisburg MS that is in a building that used to be a gas station.  I wish I could remember the name.  It is a must-see of horrible nudie bars.
 
2013-03-20 02:06:58 PM

vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.


When I lived in Athens, OH we used to go to Parkersburg for a fix of full nude WV style strip clubbery.  P-Burg, helluva town that one.
 
2013-03-20 02:13:28 PM
The exotic part is ......... two teeth !
 
2013-03-20 02:16:51 PM

dentalhilljack: que.guero: Am I too late to suggest that in WV, "exotic" means that she has all her teeth?

Yes, yes you are.  Find some new material.

I've been to strip clubs around Morgantown where the girls are university co-eds and don't look too bad, some downright hot (and with a full set of teeth!).  Then again, the night before my wedding my groomsmen took me to an absolute shiathole near Jane Lew where it was a trailer backed up to a house, and the women were what you'd expect for such a highbrow establishment.  My favorite had to be at a place that has since burned down.  They lost their liquor license so they advertised as BYOB and a $10 cover.  Those patrons at least 21 also got a plastic cup and were directed to the "free" keg.  Those under 21 got a black marker X on their hand that easily washed off.

Grestep: The only strip club I've been to is in WV (for my brother's 21st birthday) and it had decent looking girls.  We were getting ready to leave then the only black girl there came on stage.  All the hill-jacks left the stage seating as soon as she walked out.  When my then-girlfriend-now-wife saw this she walked right up to the stage, gave the girl a $10 bill, and had a quick, not-too-quiet chat about how the guys there were rude jackasses for leaving and how my now-mother-in-law was once a stripper after she moved to Nevada.

One bachelor party I went to we ended up at a club outside town and we sent our groom to the back room with the lone black girl.  He seemed to enjoy himself with "Venus".  Then at the wedding reception we slipped a Bananarama tape to the DJ.


It has been my experience that minority dancers are good investments of my entertainment dollars.
 
2013-03-20 02:17:01 PM

Mateorocks: Grestep: Mateorocks: 1. West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area.

Actually, the far-east part of the eastern panhandle is.

It's about two hours to get to a West Virginia border from DC.

I will accept that Baltimore, not DC, could be considered a main metro hub for some residents of West Virginia. I've never been there, but I'm guessing that folks in Morgantown would consider Pittsburgh to be their main metro hub.

If I'm wrong, and there are thousands and thousands of folks living in WV walking around wearing RGIII jerseys or Nats hats, please forgive my ignorance.


Martinsburg is on the extreme western edge of all the weather maps used by the DC TV news organizations, FWIW.
 
2013-03-20 02:26:10 PM
The ones around Morgantown/WVU tend to have some good looking girls ("Hummers" was great-think it is still under that name?)...and the two "Southern Exposures" also benefit from nearby colleges in Huntington and Beckley. Never been to the panhandle ones.  I lived 173 feet from the front door of Hummers and 200 feet from an indoor shooting range-it was heaven! (Yes I measured)  Oddly enough it had great food too.

But those 3 or 4 are the only good ones I've seen.  The rest unfortunately are just as stated: double wides (women and trailers) with dancers who may or may not take the cigarrette outta their mouths.  The "Jefferson Strip" near charleston is full of these.

They are fully nude though-some around Morgantown would even allow 18 year olds in and therefore you could bring your own beer/cooler.  Had some good times in that one! (route 7> lollipops).

Y'all can knock this beautiful state all you want but it's a great place to live as long as your only pastimes aren't shopping and restaraunt hopping. You gotta be tough or talented to live in WV, the rest leave and talk shiat about it because they couldn't make it.

The toothless (ok some are) /imbreeding comments are from people that have obviously never been here (but expected)...although we as a state are fat.
 
2013-03-20 02:27:16 PM
"WV" is just "VW" spelled backwards.

Think about it.
 
2013-03-20 02:27:57 PM

StoPPeRmobile: DjangoStonereaver: Grestep: They can be fully nude in West Virginia as well.

Fully nude + booze + smoking indoors.

/or so I've heard.

T's Lounge, Pompano, FL.

Full nude/full liquor/smoking

/or so I've known


What about the one in West Palm off of Southern Blvd?
/Octomom waves hello with her deflated funbags.
 
2013-03-20 02:38:12 PM
Let's discuss the merits of the case.  When is someone an independent contractor and when are they an employee?
Key factors include:

Who has to actually perform the work?
An I.C. merely has to guarantee that the work is performed to an agreed upon standard.  An IC can sub-contract the work if they wish.
An employee is required do do the work him/her self.
So, can the stripper in question send her room-mate to cover a shift?

Who sets the hours and location?
An I.C. can come and go as they please, within reasonable constraints.  A construction worker can show up as early as the site opens, or as late as it closes.  When there are multiple trades involved, there may be scheduling issues with access to the site, and other dependencies (The painter can't go in before the drywaller), but generally, as long as the work is progressing at an agreed upon pace, you can set your own hours.

An employee is required to start at a set time, and leave at a set time.

Now Consider:  (ftfa)  a $15 penalty if they arrived late for work and a $100 penalty if they did not come to work without calling in advance.

Does this sound like an independent contractor?
 
2013-03-20 02:39:41 PM
The absolute worst joint I have ever been in was in Zanesville, OH. Not a single decent looking woman in the place. I have never seen so much fat and stretch marks.
 
2013-03-20 02:40:50 PM

nekom: Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.


They're WVU "students" stripping to pay their way through "college".
 
2013-03-20 02:41:07 PM
Mmmmmmmm, see-through clogs.
 
2013-03-20 02:47:05 PM

2KanZam: The ones around Morgantown/WVU tend to have some good looking girls ("Hummers" was great-think it is still under that name?)...and the two "Southern Exposures" also benefit from nearby colleges in Huntington and Beckley. Never been to the panhandle ones.  I lived 173 feet from the front door of Hummers and 200 feet from an indoor shooting range-it was heaven! (Yes I measured)  Oddly enough it had great food too.

But those 3 or 4 are the only good ones I've seen.  The rest unfortunately are just as stated: double wides (women and trailers) with dancers who may or may not take the cigarrette outta their mouths.  The "Jefferson Strip" near charleston is full of these.

They are fully nude though-some around Morgantown would even allow 18 year olds in and therefore you could bring your own beer/cooler.  Had some good times in that one! (route 7> lollipops).

Y'all can knock this beautiful state all you want but it's a great place to live as long as your only pastimes aren't shopping and restaraunt hopping. You gotta be tough or talented to live in WV, the rest leave and talk shiat about it because they couldn't make it.

The toothless (ok some are) /imbreeding comments are from people that have obviously never been here (but expected)...although we as a state are fat.


You forgot the "honest and hardworking" and "commonsense vs education" myths.
 
2013-03-20 02:47:32 PM

karmaceutical: vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.

When I lived in Athens, OH we used to go to Parkersburg for a fix of full nude WV style strip clubbery.  P-Burg, helluva town that one.


My hometown and I have to say that Ive seen my fair share of decent looking strippers in those clubs.
 
2013-03-20 02:53:36 PM

DrHST: karmaceutical: vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.

When I lived in Athens, OH we used to go to Parkersburg for a fix of full nude WV style strip clubbery.  P-Burg, helluva town that one.

My hometown and I have to say that Ive seen my fair share of decent looking strippers in those clubs.


I grew up in the region, also. I "knew" all kinds of several fine girls from Marietta, Vienna, Belpre, etc.  Although I've never been classified as picky...
 
2013-03-20 02:55:14 PM
Let's discuss the merits of the case.  When is someone an independent contractor and when are they an employee?
Key factors include:

Who has to actually perform the work?
An I.C. merely has to guarantee that the work is performed to an agreed upon standard.  An IC can sub-contract the work if they wish.
An employee is required do do the work him/her self.
So, can the stripper in question send her room-mate to cover a shift?

Who sets the hours and location?
An I.C. can come and go as they please, within reasonable constraints.  A construction worker can show up as early as the site opens, or as late as it closes.  When there are multiple trades involved, there may be scheduling issues with access to the site, and other dependencies (The painter can't go in before the drywaller), but generally, as long as the work is progressing at an agreed upon pace, you can set your own hours.

An employee is required to start at a set time, and leave at a set time.

Now Consider:  (ftfa)  a $15 penalty if they arrived late for work and a $100 penalty if they did not come to work without calling in advance.

Does this sound like an independent contractor?


Exactly. I'm curious as to which of our (and this is the deal nationwide) representatives make sure this scam continues to operate. It's so clear that strippers are NOT independent contractors, that it makes you wonder who is getting paid and how much to make sure the labor department never cracks down. Sounds like a good investigative journalist could unearth some real corruption here.

/I'm betting it's a very long trough
 
2013-03-20 02:58:37 PM

karmaceutical: DrHST: karmaceutical: vernonFL: We used to go to a strip club in Paw Paw, WV. Really.

When I lived in Athens, OH we used to go to Parkersburg for a fix of full nude WV style strip clubbery.  P-Burg, helluva town that one.

My hometown and I have to say that Ive seen my fair share of decent looking strippers in those clubs.

I grew up in the region, also. I "knew" all kinds of several fine girls from Marietta, Vienna, Belpre, etc.  Although I've never been classified as picky...


I cant say that I am either really.
 
2013-03-20 03:31:05 PM
They are called "women with teeth" everywhere else.
 
2013-03-20 03:33:58 PM

Mateorocks: It's about two hours to get to a West Virginia border from DC.

I will accept that Baltimore, not DC, could be considered a main metro hub for some residents of West Virginia. I've never been there, but I'm guessing that folks in Morgantown would consider Pittsburgh to be their main metro hub.

If I'm wrong, and there are thousands and thousands of folks living in WV walking around wearing RGIII jerseys or Nats hats, please forgive my ignorance.


Perhaps I'm just being pedantic but Jefferson County (Harpers Ferry, Charles Town, Shepardstown) is formally defined as part of the Washington MSA. Depending on traffic that's an easy hour & 15 minute drive from DC. Morgantown is closer to Pittsburgh, sure, but WV is a big state.
 
2013-03-20 03:57:25 PM

QueenMamaBee: I've been to a couple of WV strip clubs, and there was some scary shiat in there. Those are some broad broads


Oh, you must be talking about the place out used saint Albans, in "the badlands."
 
2013-03-20 04:10:56 PM

Mateorocks: Grestep: Mateorocks: 1. West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area.

Actually, the far-east part of the eastern panhandle is.

It's about two hours to get to a West Virginia border from DC.

I will accept that Baltimore, not DC, could be considered a main metro hub for some residents of West Virginia. I've never been there, but I'm guessing that folks in Morgantown would consider Pittsburgh to be their main metro hub.

If I'm wrong, and there are thousands and thousands of folks living in WV walking around wearing RGIII jerseys or Nats hats, please forgive my ignorance.


Charles Town, Shepeherstown and Martinsburg are all commuter towns for the DC Metro area.
 
2013-03-20 04:11:40 PM

yequalsy: Mateorocks: It's about two hours to get to a West Virginia border from DC.

I will accept that Baltimore, not DC, could be considered a main metro hub for some residents of West Virginia. I've never been there, but I'm guessing that folks in Morgantown would consider Pittsburgh to be their main metro hub.

If I'm wrong, and there are thousands and thousands of folks living in WV walking around wearing RGIII jerseys or Nats hats, please forgive my ignorance.

Perhaps I'm just being pedantic but Jefferson County (Harpers Ferry, Charles Town, Shepardstown) is formally defined as part of the Washington MSA. Depending on traffic that's an easy hour & 15 minute drive from DC. Morgantown is closer to Pittsburgh, sure, but WV is a big state.


Yeah I knew a ton of people at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing and the Capitol building that were commuting from WV daily, even met a few guys coming from PA.
 
2013-03-20 04:13:23 PM
Barboursville has a fun one that used to be a Ponderosa restaurant. You could totally get jacked off near where the sundae machine used to be
 
2013-03-20 04:15:09 PM

brap: Mmmmmmmm, see-through clogs.


I would happily pay a cover charge for exotic clog dancing.
 
2013-03-20 04:30:24 PM

phaseolus: Ask this guy

[www.theage.com.au image 200x275]

...about exotic dancers in WV


Show me the money

Okay, let's open this here briefcase ....

(thud)
 
2013-03-20 05:44:01 PM
Lady G's FTW.
 
2013-03-20 07:02:07 PM

mightybaldking: Let's discuss the merits of the case.  When is someone an independent contractor and when are they an employee?
Key factors include:

Who has to actually perform the work?
An I.C. merely has to guarantee that the work is performed to an agreed upon standard.  An IC can sub-contract the work if they wish.
An employee is required do do the work him/her self.
So, can the stripper in question send her room-mate to cover a shift?

Who sets the hours and location?
An I.C. can come and go as they please, within reasonable constraints.  A construction worker can show up as early as the site opens, or as late as it closes.  When there are multiple trades involved, there may be scheduling issues with access to the site, and other dependencies (The painter can't go in before the drywaller), but generally, as long as the work is progressing at an agreed upon pace, you can set your own hours.

An employee is required to start at a set time, and leave at a set time.

Now Consider:  (ftfa)  a $15 penalty if they arrived late for work and a $100 penalty if they did not come to work without calling in advance.

Does this sound like an independent contractor?


Another caveat is an independent contractor MUST be available to work for other businesses in the same line of work. If the club has a rule that they can't work elsewhere, or the hours required don't allow other employment, they are not independent contractors.
I worked for 2 years as an independent contractor and the company was forced to hire me as an employee for that reason.

When an adult film star goes on tour to strip clubs, they are working as independent contractors.
 
2013-03-20 08:12:05 PM

abfab: I'm curious as to which of our (and this is the deal nationwide) representatives make sure this scam continues to operate. It's so clear that strippers are NOT independent contractors, that it makes you wonder who is getting paid and how much to make sure the labor department never cracks down. Sounds like a good investigative journalist could unearth some real corruption here.


Dept. of Labor and local wage/hour boards respond to complaints; they don't have agents out on street patrol.
 
2013-03-20 08:28:40 PM
Parkersburg  WV is awesome! For Ohioans, it's kind of like going to Tijuana for Californians. Best strip club experience ever down there was last year when I went for a friend's bachellor party. On the same night we had a fully nude stripper-fight between two "dancers" (one of which was named Pokey, and the other Gumby I kid you not!), the headliner was a 2' tall stripper who goes by Sassy Cassee. It was amazing to witness, in a sort of Salvador Dali-esque kind of way. I really thought it was a hidden camera TV Reality show until Sassy Cassee got undressed and I realized the whole thing was real.

West Virginia is the one place on earth that makes Ohio look civilized, and that makes their strip clubs magic!
 
2013-03-20 09:33:01 PM

mightybaldking: Let's discuss the merits of the case.  When is someone an independent contractor and when are they an employee?
Key factors include:

Who has to actually perform the work?
An I.C. merely has to guarantee that the work is performed to an agreed upon standard.  An IC can sub-contract the work if they wish.
An employee is required do do the work him/her self.
So, can the stripper in question send her room-mate to cover a shift?

Who sets the hours and location?
An I.C. can come and go as they please, within reasonable constraints.  A construction worker can show up as early as the site opens, or as late as it closes.  When there are multiple trades involved, there may be scheduling issues with access to the site, and other dependencies (The painter can't go in before the drywaller), but generally, as long as the work is progressing at an agreed upon pace, you can set your own hours.

An employee is required to start at a set time, and leave at a set time.

Now Consider:  (ftfa)  a $15 penalty if they arrived late for work and a $100 penalty if they did not come to work without calling in advance.

Does this sound like an independent contractor?




I don't tip, contractors.

SteveB.jpg

You don't tip the boss, you tip the help.
 
2013-03-20 11:31:14 PM
to folks in West Virginia people from Illinois must be pretty exotic
 
2013-03-20 11:38:21 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: West Virginia titty bars are well known as some of the coolest places to hang out in the DC Metro area.  No pasties, no rules!  They were naked, totally naked.

//Actually, there are lots of rules.  Like no dancing.  I went there w/a race car driver once (in a large group of people) and he got kicked out for it.  "No one dances 'cept the strippers, bub."  The was the night before I went to law school.


West VA is in the DC metro area?  Seems kinda far away.
 
2013-03-20 11:44:01 PM

Bucky Katt: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: West Virginia titty bars are well known as some of the coolest places to hang out in the DC Metro area.  No pasties, no rules!  They were naked, totally naked.

//Actually, there are lots of rules.  Like no dancing.  I went there w/a race car driver once (in a large group of people) and he got kicked out for it.  "No one dances 'cept the strippers, bub."  The was the night before I went to law school.

West VA is in the DC metro area?  Seems kinda far away.


I knew a guy that drove in from Lynchburg, actually had an apartment in the DC and would go "home" for the weekends.

Federal employees get paid too much
 
2013-03-21 12:43:35 AM
I'm more shocked that dudes in WV are paying to see someone else's sister naked...
 
2013-03-21 01:42:37 AM

nekom: Yeah, they do.  And they're not toothless hicks, they're WVU students stripping to pay their way through college.


Hahaha don't tell me you actually fell for that line
 
2013-03-21 03:30:06 AM
Dept. of Labor and local wage/hour boards respond to complaints; they don't have agents out on street patrol.

Of course not. But the numerous lawsuits have drawn media attention, so why not the government's? It IS their job, no?

They're losing revenue on all the various employment taxes, yet somehow they haven't acted?

/Stinks to high heaven IMO.
 
2013-03-22 08:08:39 AM
The last time I was through Marinsburg and stopped at a WV "gentleman's club", one of the dancers was 5 months pregnant, one of them was missing her two front teeth, and a few shifts into our stay, a burly woman who we originally thought was the bouncer took the stage.  To be fair, two others were very hot, and not fark hot, but genuine hot.

Sunday afternoons, what are ya gonna do?
 
2013-03-22 08:58:58 AM

Mateorocks: 1. West Virginia is not considered a part of the DC Metro area.


The Charles Town area is closer to D.C. than Baltimore and is well within the commuter zone, more and more so every month.

2. DC strip clubs are totally nude, as well.

Yes, but with more rules (some don't offer lap dances) and much higher drink prices.  It's usually less of a crap shoot regarding quality of dancer in D.C.

3. There are lots of them.

Unfortunately, fewer and fewer each year, it seems.  Surely not as thriving an industry has in W.V.

D.C. is closer to where I live and work, but the W.V. clubs are the greater attraction.  On the negative side, however, you are more likely to be hassled by the police leaving the Martinsburg area clubs, so having a DD can be helpful.
 
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