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(Humans Invent)   A gel that can save lives by stopping severe bleeding immediately   (humansinvent.com) divider line 65
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2013-03-20 11:43:51 AM  
I also make a gel that stops bleeding.

But it only works on women, and only in one spot....
 
2013-03-20 11:45:01 AM  
Awesome, we can keep fighting more wars, and not throw away our precious investments, er, soldiers. We can save save save on training!
 
2013-03-20 11:48:04 AM  
Bloody 'ell!
 
2013-03-20 11:49:47 AM  
I'll bet it stings like a mofo.
 
2013-03-20 11:53:28 AM  
Superglue?
 
2013-03-20 11:53:40 AM  
Otherwise known as "Medi-Gel" from Mass Effect.
 
2013-03-20 11:59:36 AM  

Do the needful: Superglue?

 
2013-03-20 12:02:08 PM  
Didn't Judge Dredd use some of that stuff in the recent movie?
 
2013-03-20 12:02:59 PM  
glad Shepard funded that medi gel research it's paying off.
 
2013-03-20 12:06:39 PM  

SpdrJay: I also make a gel that stops bleeding.

But it only works on women, and only in one spot....


and only for so long
 
2013-03-20 12:09:01 PM  
After actually watching the video, I'll upgrade my reaction to "awesome".

The fact that this can have military applications should not preclude its use in other emergency medical situations. Just because it works on soldiers doesn't mean it wouldn't work on, say, a dude whose legs were just torn off by a tire shredder. Lots of tech hits the military first before diffusing into the market.
 
2013-03-20 12:10:52 PM  

Bruxellensis: Do the needful: Superglue?

 
2013-03-20 12:11:09 PM  
Considering the volume of gel it took to fill that "wound", medics will be carrying vats of that stuff around. Still cool though.
 
2013-03-20 12:13:11 PM  

mcgreggers99: Otherwise known as "Medi-Gel" from Mass Effect.


The article covered as much, but your comment should at least help gamers who don't bother to read the article.
 
2013-03-20 12:13:57 PM  

Electromax: After actually watching the video, I'll upgrade my reaction to "awesome".

The fact that this can have military applications should not preclude its use in other emergency medical situations. Just because it works on soldiers doesn't mean it wouldn't work on, say, a dude whose legs were just torn off by a tire shredder. Lots of tech hits the military first before diffusing into the market.


my biggest question: is it like the quik-clot powder, not just in performance but the fact that it hurts like a MOTHERFARKER when it's applied, or is this one a smidge less painful?

/knew the stuff stung from using it on other people, didn't know just how bad till i had to use it on myself.
//it also manages to make most wounds look like necrotic zombie flesh for a day or two.
 
2013-03-20 12:15:25 PM  

studs up: Considering the volume of gel it took to fill that "wound", medics will be carrying vats of that stuff around. Still cool though.


They'll start looking like the Medic from TF2, carrying around backpacks full of gel and spraying people down with their magical healing hose.

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-20 12:16:50 PM  

lantawa: Bruxellensis: Do the needful: Superglue?

 
2013-03-20 12:18:46 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Awesome, we can keep fighting more wars, and not throw away our precious investments, er, soldiers. We can save save save on training!


.... Really? This?  This literally has life-saving uses OUTSIDE of combat. And you, of *all* people, are STILL pissed about it?
 
2013-03-20 12:20:09 PM  

Enfenestrate: mcgreggers99: Otherwise known as "Medi-Gel" from Mass Effect.

The article covered as much, but your comment should at least help gamers who don't bother to read the article.



Wait, articles can be "read"?

images.cheezburger.com
 
2013-03-20 12:20:47 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Awesome, we can keep fighting more wars, and not throw away our precious investments, er, soldiers. We can save save save on training!


Excellent, then we can invest that money into space technology advancements =)
 
2013-03-20 12:21:59 PM  

Felgraf: Quantum Apostrophe: Awesome, we can keep fighting more wars, and not throw away our precious investments, er, soldiers. We can save save save on training!

.... Really? This?  This literally has life-saving uses OUTSIDE of combat. And you, of *all* people, are STILL pissed about it?


Also it seems to presume the people who decide to fight wars care about throwing away the lives of soldiers or the cost of training new ones.
 
2013-03-20 12:24:09 PM  
I've got a gel that can be applied to bleeding gashes.
 
2013-03-20 12:24:54 PM  

Jubeebee: studs up: Considering the volume of gel it took to fill that "wound", medics will be carrying vats of that stuff around. Still cool though.

They'll start looking like the Medic from TF2, carrying around backpacks full of gel and spraying people down with their magical healing hose.

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 200x200]


They always ubercharge you at the wrong time though.
 
2013-03-20 12:28:01 PM  

studs up: Considering the volume of gel it took to fill that "wound", medics will be carrying vats of that stuff around. Still cool though.


Looked to me a half inch diameter syringe with maybe 2 inches of gel in it, how is that really a lot considering he cut like a 5 inch cut down that meat and then had tons of blood pumping out like it hit a major artery... That was pretty amazing all things considered and I do imagine the combat medic (or civilian medics, hospitals, etc.) would have plenty on hand for missions/treatment.

Questions (I didn't read the whole article yet), how does this store (temperature) and does it break down if not stored right, what about the pain factor if any, could some kind of anti-pain drug also be in the compound to numb the nerves in the area, and what happens to the stuff after the fact, does it block up your veins and arteries forever?
 
2013-03-20 12:38:49 PM  

KellyX: does it block up your veins and arteries forever?


Presumably your white blood cells would go about attacking the invading substance, since it's plant based.
 
2013-03-20 12:46:04 PM  
After forgetting how horribly designed that site is, I could use some of that gel for my eyes right about now.

=Smidge=
 
2013-03-20 12:58:58 PM  

KellyX: Questions (I didn't read the whole article yet), how does this store (temperature) and does it break down if not stored right, what about the pain factor if any, could some kind of anti-pain drug also be in the compound to numb the nerves in the area, and what happens to the stuff after the fact, does it block up your veins and arteries forever?


From the minimal understanding gleaned from the article, this functions similar to having skin quickly seal over the wound. Your body would use this temporarily and try to regrow as best as possible.

I would imagine, however, there will be storage concerns. This needs to have some more striking trials.
 
2013-03-20 12:59:01 PM  

GoldSpider: Jubeebee: studs up: Considering the volume of gel it took to fill that "wound", medics will be carrying vats of that stuff around. Still cool though.

They'll start looking like the Medic from TF2, carrying around backpacks full of gel and spraying people down with their magical healing hose.

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 200x200]

They always ubercharge you at the wrong time though.


I haven't played in a couple of years, but I got ubercharged as a scout a few times. One time I killed a sentry nest with the baseball bat.
 
2013-03-20 01:01:31 PM  
Approves
 
2013-03-20 01:05:06 PM  

idesofmarch: Approves


Bah, that was supposed to have a photo of Dr. Chakwas.  I really should preview.
 
2013-03-20 01:06:21 PM  
It doesn't matter how much is required. I'm sure every hemophiliac would love to carry around a few syringes worth of this gel, just in case.
 
2013-03-20 01:12:07 PM  

labman: SpdrJay: I also make a gel that stops bleeding.

But it only works on women, and only in one spot....

and only for so long


I also manufacture a product like this, but mine is more of a paste instead of a gel.
It also requires 30 seconds to a minute of prep work to get the paste out of the tube.
 
2013-03-20 01:15:14 PM  

ZMugg: lantawa: Bruxellensis: Do the needful: Superglue?


well, umm... i was going to say that
 
2013-03-20 01:19:26 PM  
All fine and dandy till it moves upstream and clogs your arteries.
 
2013-03-20 01:31:37 PM  

Felgraf: Quantum Apostrophe: Awesome, we can keep fighting more wars, and not throw away our precious investments, er, soldiers. We can save save save on training!

.... Really? This?  This literally has life-saving uses OUTSIDE of combat. And you, of *all* people, are STILL pissed about it?


He got his ass handed to him yesterday in a gun thread, go easy on the poor retard. He can't help his condition.
 
2013-03-20 01:32:07 PM  

studs up: Considering the volume of gel it took to fill that "wound", medics will be carrying vats of that stuff around. Still cool though.


A) That was a long and deep cut.
B) One turkey injector of that stuff per patient should suffice.
C) Long....Deep....Cut....
 
2013-03-20 01:49:26 PM  

MagicChicken: It doesn't matter how much is required. I'm sure every hemophiliac would love to carry around a few syringes worth of this gel, just in case.


Definitely, I'm one of those poor bastards who has to take blood thinners so bleeding out is always a risk. This gel is relevant to my interests.
 
2013-03-20 02:38:16 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: my biggest question: is it like the quik-clot powder, not just in performance but the fact that it hurts like a MOTHERFARKER when it's applied, or is this one a smidge less painful?


While I get this, is it really that big of a concern?

"Hey, your femoral artery's severed, and if we don't do anything, you'll be dead in about 45 seconds. I've got this gel that will save your life. It'll hurt like a biatch, but the other option is a 6-foot descent in a pine box."

"Pain? Oh, no thanks. I'll just die instead."
 
2013-03-20 02:42:49 PM  

Gonz: buttery_shame_cave: my biggest question: is it like the quik-clot powder, not just in performance but the fact that it hurts like a MOTHERFARKER when it's applied, or is this one a smidge less painful?

While I get this, is it really that big of a concern?

"Hey, your femoral artery's severed, and if we don't do anything, you'll be dead in about 45 seconds. I've got this gel that will save your life. It'll hurt like a biatch, but the other option is a 6-foot descent in a pine box."

"Pain? Oh, no thanks. I'll just die instead."


Plus I doubt anyone is making a lucid, informed decision with a severed femoral artery. That would be a decision made by the medic, not the guy bleeding out.
 
2013-03-20 02:44:37 PM  

Gonz: buttery_shame_cave: my biggest question: is it like the quik-clot powder, not just in performance but the fact that it hurts like a MOTHERFARKER when it's applied, or is this one a smidge less painful?

While I get this, is it really that big of a concern?

"Hey, your femoral artery's severed, and if we don't do anything, you'll be dead in about 45 seconds. I've got this gel that will save your life. It'll hurt like a biatch, but the other option is a 6-foot descent in a pine box."

"Pain? Oh, no thanks. I'll just die instead."


pain, specifically an overabundance of it, can be dangerous to a patient that's already traumatized and in shock from an injury. you can deepen the shock, for one, which is pretty negative.

and if someone's hurt bad but not in shock(yet) the pain can throw them into shock if it's severe enough, which is really dangerous, if say, you're using it on yourself in an environment where exposure would be a real and legitimate concern. rendering yourself incapacitated is generally NOT a good thing.
 
2013-03-20 02:48:47 PM  

duffblue: He got his ass handed to him yesterday in a gun thread, go easy on the poor retard. He can't help his condition.


But he constantly talks about how all technology and research needs to be focused on life extension, which is one of the reasons he gripes in space threads, since he sees it as diverting resources that could be put into research to extend his (and everyone else's) lives.

and THAT IS SOMETHING THIS PRODUCT WILL HELP DO.

Which is why that made my brain hurt.
 
2013-03-20 02:58:25 PM  
Huh, just like Har-Jel.  Pretty neat.  Every once and a while I see some new technology and I think to myself:
I'm living in the FUTURE!
 
2013-03-20 03:00:35 PM  
KellyX:

Questions (I didn't read the whole article yet), how does this store (temperature) and does it break down if not stored right, what about the pain factor if any, could some kind of anti-pain drug also be in the compound to numb the nerves in the area, and what happens to the stuff after the fact, does it block up your veins and arteries forever?

As far as the pain goes, they said in the article they can add other medications in the gel (like antibiotics) so I imagine they can throw some morphine or fentanyl in the gel as well.
 
2013-03-20 03:10:22 PM  
Actually, the first time I read about this concept was in the Warhammer 40K rule book.  I think they called it synthi-skin or something like that.

Which predates Mass Effect by many years.
 
2013-03-20 03:13:23 PM  

duffblue: Felgraf: Quantum Apostrophe: Awesome, we can keep fighting more wars, and not throw away our precious investments, er, soldiers. We can save save save on training!

.... Really? This?  This literally has life-saving uses OUTSIDE of combat. And you, of *all* people, are STILL pissed about it?

He got his ass handed to him yesterday in a gun thread, go easy on the poor retard. He can't help his condition.


He could stick to his original shtick for consistencies sake.
He said he favored longevity over space exploration, yet he pisses on a product that actually helps people live longer.

/People with holes in them, but still...
/Which reminds me, I need to buy a new plate carrier.
/Biofoam is for pussies.
 
2013-03-20 03:17:05 PM  

Electromax: After actually watching the video, I'll upgrade my reaction to "awesome".

The fact that this can have military applications should not preclude its use in other emergency medical situations. Just because it works on soldiers doesn't mean it wouldn't work on, say, a dude whose legs were just torn off by a tire shredder. Lots of tech hits the military first before diffusing into the market.


In this case, FDA trials are beginning the same time the product reaches the military. Products used by the military do not require FDA approval.
 
2013-03-20 03:19:45 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: is it like the quik-clot powder, not just in performance but the fact that it hurts like a MOTHERFARKER when it's applied, or is this one a smidge less painful?


We've been told that the new Celox-like stuff doesn't hurt as much as the quik-clot.  So they say.  Haven't seen it actually used yet.
 
2013-03-20 03:24:45 PM  
Another question:  I don't know much about biology beyond what I learned in my Gen Ed courses through college...but if you have massive bleeding and seal the skin, isn't the artery still losing a shiatton of blood under the skin?  It seems like you're keeping the blood from leaving the body, but you're still going to have nasty internal bleeding.
 
2013-03-20 03:28:34 PM  
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Approves.
 
2013-03-20 03:42:50 PM  

Glitchwerks: Actually, the first time I read about this concept was in the Warhammer 40K rule book.  I think they called it synthi-skin or something like that.

Which predates Mass Effect by many years.


The difference is that the product he was working on was previously called "Medi-Gel", which was the name of that compound in Mass Effect.
 
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