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2013-03-20 08:26:26 AM  
Isn't immigration a federal problem while Joe is a sheriff?
He can complain about them not doing their job, but its their job to not do.
 
2013-03-20 08:29:19 AM  
I'm pretty sure the headline typoed "fecal" position.

HTH
 
2013-03-20 08:31:09 AM  
He probably got a massive boner because it means there'll be more immigrants on the streets that he can dominate.
 
2013-03-20 08:35:25 AM  
Now, let the pot smokers out.
 
2013-03-20 08:39:00 AM  
RELEASE THE KRAKEN ILLEGALS!
 
2013-03-20 08:41:07 AM  
Make it hurt.
 
2013-03-20 08:49:03 AM  
Budget cuts cause more immigrants to be released. Sheriff Arpaio last seen in the fetal position with massive, throbbing tumescence.
 
2013-03-20 08:51:49 AM  
Outrage meter - not even ticking. I got 99 problems, but immigrants ain't one.
 
2013-03-20 08:52:16 AM  
only a handful were considered serious felons...

seriously?
you dicks

'we have these bad guys who aren't even allowed in this country..
What do we do?
Meh, release them. Let 'em be someone else's problem'
 
2013-03-20 08:58:25 AM  
The article did not clarify where they were released.  Isn't deportation a form of releasing when you release them across the border?  I am pretty sure that detained illegal immigrants are released across the border as per SOP.  Now how long they stay there is well up to them and those that try to stop them.
 
2013-03-20 09:01:20 AM  
Whee!

I wonder if this means more of the farms my company does payroll for will have a mexican work permit assistant site supervisor making 35 dollars more than the main site supervisor because the government tells the company that he deserves it for having to travel 2 hours on a bus that the farm pays for from a housing development that the farm pays for.
 
2013-03-20 09:01:55 AM  
"35 an hour more" that should have said
 
2013-03-20 09:06:02 AM  
Think of the good they will do for the economy.  That's like 12 jobs filled that us lazy piece of shiat 'Mericuns don't want to do.
Plus if they make 22$ an hour, it's that much more money going into the economy from some magic black hole that isn't going to get passed on to us in the form of 20$ a gallon milk.  Win win....
 
2013-03-20 09:09:37 AM  

ChuDogg: Make it hurt.


I think that's what Obama is trying to do... Picking not the wanton waste to cut, but rather the more vital services.
 
2013-03-20 09:18:35 AM  
The budget is still higher than 2011... can someone link the 2011 articles of mass released? Surely they happened then.
 
2013-03-20 09:26:46 AM  
Nice derp subby

Illegal immigrants not immigrants

You also forgot to mention that the release included felons who have committed serious crimes.
 
2013-03-20 09:33:20 AM  

lack of warmth: I am pretty sure that detained illegal immigrants are released across the border as per SOP.



No, these were illegals awaiting deportation proceedings   In other words, they already were in the process of being deported when they were released.   And as for SOP, we can't actually deport someone without a lengthy court process and a LOT of hang wringing and gnashing of teeth.
 
2013-03-20 09:35:54 AM  
You know how we know the whole "prisoner release because of cuts" thing is nothing more than scare tactics and a political move? Because, apparently, illegal immigrants are the only ones being released. I guess there are no American citizens that are locked up that could be released at all.
 
2013-03-20 09:37:00 AM  
Also, yes, ALL of these (previously) detained were considered a flight risk, or a felon.  Otherwise they wouldn't have been in detention while awaiting their court hearing.
 
2013-03-20 09:47:49 AM  
If by "fetal-position" you mean "pacing the state border, obsessively racking his shotgun, and sporting harder wood than a Viagra and ecstasy-fueled trip to the National Collegiate Cheer Finals", then yes. Yes he is.

Nothing will justify his hard-lined approach to "teh ilegals" than when he has to shoot one for even once daring to eyeball him.  And his supporters will nod solemnly and praise him for "having the courage".
 
2013-03-20 09:50:20 AM  
Don't have any respect for companies that don't pay the Hispanics the same as everyone else or give them the same benefits. We pay our Hispanics the same (some even more because they take on more responsibility), give them the same benefits. Hell, most of them have never had health or life insurance before. Most didn't know what life insurance even was until they started working here. Same with paid vacations.

/yes we verify before they start working
 
2013-03-20 09:54:46 AM  
Thanks Obama (voters)
 
2013-03-20 10:00:09 AM  

cwolf20: Whee!

I wonder if this means more of the farms my company does payroll for will have a mexican work permit assistant site supervisor making 35 dollars more than the main site supervisor because the government tells the company that he deserves it for having to travel 2 hours on a bus that the farm pays for from a housing development that the farm pays for.


Simple solution, really.  The farm can just stop providing that expensive housing and that expensive bus for their workers.  Think of the money they'll save as their crops shrivel & die because nobody will come work for them.  Don't want the expense of hiring illegals?, then don't hire illegals.
 
2013-03-20 10:00:38 AM  
Liberal narrative: "budget cuts forced us to release all these dangerous immigrants who are also criminals!" Media repeats it exactly, surprise surprise.

Reality: budget cuts mean you can choose to lop off expenses anywhere, and even if you do decide to release jailed immigrants, you can release the ones who are not also criminals.

As usual, this is government acting like a petulant child. They're mad that their budgets got cut, so they'er going to do whatever they can to hurt the taxpayer so that (they hope) the taxpayer will just cry uncle and re-approve a huge and sloppy-fat budget.

Liberalism: a mental disorder spread through self-pity.
 
2013-03-20 10:04:10 AM  
FARK should start a voluntary donation fund so when the Feds finally nail Sheriff Joe, there will enough money to keep him in jail for his full sentence.
 
2013-03-20 10:04:52 AM  

3StratMan: You know how we know the whole "prisoner release because of cuts" thing is nothing more than scare tactics and a political move? Because, apparently, illegal immigrants are the only ones being released. I guess there are no American citizens that are locked up that could be released at all.


Its a matter of dept budget. Realeasing state prisoners doesn't help lower the federal dept of homeland security budget.
 
2013-03-20 10:05:28 AM  

sodomizer: Liberal narrative: "budget cuts forced us to release all these dangerous immigrants who are also criminals!" Media repeats it exactly, surprise surprise.

Reality: budget cuts mean you can choose to lop off expenses anywhere, and even if you do decide to release jailed immigrants, you can release the ones who are not also criminals.

As usual, this is government acting like a petulant child. They're mad that their budgets got cut, so they'er going to do whatever they can to hurt the taxpayer so that (they hope) the taxpayer will just cry uncle and re-approve a huge and sloppy-fat budget.

Liberalism: a mental disorder spread through self-pity.


This dreck made me laugh out loud...
 
2013-03-20 10:11:26 AM  
Federal agency emails show they are being told to make the cuts hurt, and to make sure the cuts don't deviate from what the President has said would happen.

He can waste millions to play gold with Tiger Woods, throw big parties, but heaven forbid some school kids get to see the White House.

Really is pathetic. If Bush did this, you guys would be outraged to the point of insanity.
 
2013-03-20 10:30:07 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: 3StratMan: You know how we know the whole "prisoner release because of cuts" thing is nothing more than scare tactics and a political move? Because, apparently, illegal immigrants are the only ones being released. I guess there are no American citizens that are locked up that could be released at all.

Its a matter of dept budget. Realeasing state prisoners doesn't help lower the federal dept of homeland security budget.


It is also a matter of what can be changed mid year in a budget from unexpected legislation.

Agencies are not, and should not, immediately begin selling off assests for pennies on the dollar. They should not break contracts and pay through the nose getting out of them either.

DHS has drones, anti-mine vehicles, and god knows what else it should never have purchased. They have contracts already in place for this fiscal year.

The key is to legislate future budgets and audit budgets to ensure proper things are even capable of being cut to meet those future budgets. This means penciling cuts in the future and sticking to them.

That is, as we see atm, something unfortunately difficult for our congress to do.
 
2013-03-20 10:34:22 AM  

natas6.0: only a handful were considered serious felons...

seriously?
you dicks

'we have these bad guys who aren't even allowed in this country..
What do we do?
Meh, release them. Let 'em be someone else's problem'


We live in a very sick and decadent society. Criminals are everywhere, not just in prisons. They are in our schools, waiting to become adults. They are in our police departments, in our churches, in our workplaces, in our courthouses.

The criminals who do the most damage, though, those criminals "work" on Wall Street, and in the halls of Democracy. Instead of Wranglers and work boots, these criminals wear suits and smiles.
 
2013-03-20 10:45:30 AM  

3StratMan: You know how we know the whole "prisoner release because of cuts" thing is nothing more than scare tactics and a political move? Because, apparently, illegal immigrants are the only ones being released. I guess there are no American citizens that are locked up that could be released at all.


So by your logic it would be better to release citizens jailed for whatever reasons and keep paying to house low priority undocumented immigrants.
 
2013-03-20 10:46:53 AM  

Smackledorfer: ThrobblefootSpectre: 3StratMan: You know how we know the whole "prisoner release because of cuts" thing is nothing more than scare tactics and a political move? Because, apparently, illegal immigrants are the only ones being released. I guess there are no American citizens that are locked up that could be released at all.

Its a matter of dept budget. Realeasing state prisoners doesn't help lower the federal dept of homeland security budget.

It is also a matter of what can be changed mid year in a budget from unexpected legislation.

Agencies are not, and should not, immediately begin selling off assests for pennies on the dollar. They should not break contracts and pay through the nose getting out of them either.

DHS has drones, anti-mine vehicles, and god knows what else it should never have purchased. They have contracts already in place for this fiscal year.

The key is to legislate future budgets and audit budgets to ensure proper things are even capable of being cut to meet those future budgets. This means penciling cuts in the future and sticking to them.

That is, as we see atm, something unfortunately difficult for our congress to do.


Sequester has been delayed for two years. The budget has still grown in those two years. Thabks for ad mitting Obama and the executive did not plan for cuts that they wete given a 2 year notice for.
 
2013-03-20 10:49:46 AM  

Retro42: 3StratMan: You know how we know the whole "prisoner release because of cuts" thing is nothing more than scare tactics and a political move? Because, apparently, illegal immigrants are the only ones being released. I guess there are no American citizens that are locked up that could be released at all.

So by your logic it would be better to release citizens jailed for whatever reasons and keep paying to house low priority undocumented immigrants.


But it isn't racism.
Don't you dare say that.

Immigrants aren't scary and aren't destroying our nation.

Any one immigrant joining the workforce is no different than an american family having had one more kid twenty years ago. Well, the economy does lose out on the capitalism of buying said kid toys and clothes I guess. Bfd.
 
2013-03-20 10:50:06 AM  
It's funny that people think "Obama" "chose" to release these people. The whole problem with across-the-board cuts is that nobody gets to pick or choose.
Thanks a lot Boehner. (voters)
 
2013-03-20 11:00:58 AM  

jso2897: It's funny that people think "Obama" "chose" to release these people. The whole problem with across-the-board cuts is that nobody gets to pick or choose.
Thanks a lot Boehner. (voters)


The republicans raging about the released inmates would have a seizure if they knew what the courts were doing.

/Admin closure granted!
 
2013-03-20 11:09:20 AM  
Animal and Plant Health Inspection agency guy.

In the internal email, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service official Charles Brown said he asked if he could try to spread out the sequester cuts in his region to minimize the impact, and he said he was told not to do anything that would lessen the dire impacts Congress had been warned of. "We have gone on record with a notification to Congress and whoever else that 'APHIS would eliminate assistance to producers in 24 states in managing wildlife damage to the aquaculture industry, unless they provide funding to cover the costs.' So it is our opinion that however you manage that reduction, you need to make sure you are not contradicting what we said the impact would be,"


So basically, federal agencies are being told to make the cuts have as great an impact as possible, so Obama looks good in his dire warnings. Farking sickening.

 
2013-03-20 11:09:22 AM  

jso2897: It's funny that people think "Obama" "chose" to release these people. The whole problem with across-the-board cuts is that nobody gets to pick or choose.
Thanks a lot Boehner. (voters)


Well, someone does. Border patrol is getting more of the cbp cuts than customs in terms of percent of their budget. The seperate budgets are handing down the cuts they receive differently as well. Agents will lose 40% of their pay between furloughs and loss of OT. ICE agents will see their salaries protected by instead cutting detainment fees.

Both methods will, of course, result in less enforcement.

Personally I don't think cutting the pay of agents is the way to go. Attrition over time if you have too many, finding waste within the programs, etc is the way. But as I say in all these threads, actual good cuts can't be done at a moments notice like sequestration.

I doubt there is any way to do such instant cuts efficiently, fairly, or in the best interest of the departments' operations.
 
2013-03-20 11:38:15 AM  

hlehmann: cwolf20: Whee!

I wonder if this means more of the farms my company does payroll for will have a mexican work permit assistant site supervisor making 35 dollars more than the main site supervisor because the government tells the company that he deserves it for having to travel 2 hours on a bus that the farm pays for from a housing development that the farm pays for.

Simple solution, really.  The farm can just stop providing that expensive housing and that expensive bus for their workers.  Think of the money they'll save as their crops shrivel & die because nobody will come work for them.  Don't want the expense of hiring illegals?, then don't hire illegals.


Too bad he's legal then isn't it.  There are work cards that the legal ones are allowed to have 3 or four years on before they either go back or try and renew.  Any of the "illegal" ones aren't being paid through this payroll company, since they have to have that legal work identification pdf saved to the employee file in our computer and in the filing cabinet before they get paid.

Either the employee has proof they're a citizen, or legally allowed to work in the U.S., or we don't want to know the client has them on site.

And something tells me that 55 dollars an hour for a position that pays 35 less if the person is not mexican (this was told to the farm owners by a government rep) can probably cover the bus at least.  The farm has always covered housing for all the workers, so that isn't an issue.
 
2013-03-20 11:47:07 AM  
Oh, and the same rep told them that that particular position will always be available for mexicans first or the farm will have so many audits that they'll need alcohol to get through it.

So, a job that pays 20 an hour, can't be considered for anyone other than mexicans if mexicans are turning in applications for it.  Even if someone willing to work for 20 an hour is better qualified.
 
2013-03-20 11:54:42 AM  

jso2897: It's funny that people think "Obama" "chose" to release these people. The whole problem with across-the-board cuts is that nobody gets to pick or choose.
Thanks a lot Boehner. (voters)


Gop gave the senate the choice to allow Obama to make more rational cuts, they rejected the offer
 
2013-03-20 11:54:50 AM  
Obama gets to keep his Hawaiian vacation and parties with Adlele, but conveniently is "forced" to release criminals in his opponents' backyards.  People still think he's a good guy??  At least Sheriff Joe is trying to do his job.
 
2013-03-20 12:00:48 PM  
Subby is ignorant of the facts.

Fact is .. Obama said clearly to punish America. a 2% cut in  spending does not equate to "Let the worst bastards go to prey on women and children"

Subby? It's Obama acting out like a Tyrant Dicktator. Or, is that too hard to understand?
 
2013-03-20 12:06:20 PM  

Thunderpipes: So basically, federal agencies are being told to make the cuts have as great an impact as possible, so Obama looks good in his dire warnings. Farking sickening.


So a request from an individual field officer, is an indictment of the entire spectrum of federal agencies?

You're saying that this is a conspiracy directing all federal agencies to maximize the impact of sequestration in an effort to make Obama look good? Do you have any idea how delusional that sounds?

It is far more likely that this would be in order to force a special exception for the conniving field officer's budget. What other goal could possibly motivate an action like this? There are tons and tons of Republican bureaucrats. They're not going to all start doing a shiatty job in an effort to rally support for Obama.
 
2013-03-20 12:42:26 PM  
what do you guys expect from a Farker who named himself "sodomizer"?

p000p thread!
 
2013-03-20 01:15:00 PM  
When people are deported the federal government should just re coup costs from whatever country the person is being deported to. If other countries dont have laws that tell their citizens in wrong to do this, then we need to create laws that force them to pay us back the money we waste on their mistakes.

farking stupid there isnt anything like this right now.
 
2013-03-20 01:20:27 PM  

c4rr0tc4k3: When people are deported the federal government should just re coup costs from whatever country the person is being deported to. If other countries dont have laws that tell their citizens in wrong to do this, then we need to create laws that force them to pay us back the money we waste on their mistakes.

farking stupid there isnt anything like this right now.


That'll end well....

U.S.: I'd like to return these for a full refund.

Random Country: Yeah....nope. You can keep em. Kthxbai!
 
2013-03-20 01:52:21 PM  

sodomizer: Liberalism: a mental disorder spread through self-pity.


If repeating the same line over and over, ad nauseam, didn't get your point across, I don't think a bigger font will help.

/"People aren't agreeing with my awesome and totally not retarded phrase. Could it be that something is wrong with my argument? Nah, couldn't be. Must be the formatting."
 
2013-03-20 02:20:06 PM  

cwolf20: Oh, and the same rep told them that that particular position will always be available for mexicans first or the farm will have so many audits that they'll need alcohol to get through it.

So, a job that pays 20 an hour, can't be considered for anyone other than mexicans if mexicans are turning in applications for it.  Even if someone willing to work for 20 an hour is better qualified.


I'm pretty skeptical of your claims in this thread, I hope you won't take it personally.
 
2013-03-20 03:24:31 PM  

MyRandomName: Gop gave the senate the choice to allow Obama to make more rational cuts, they rejected the offer


except that...you know, the GOP in the senate weren't really keen on the idea of taking the powers of the purse and giving it to the executive. Do you honestly think giving Obama (or any future democratic president) the ability to decide who gets cash and who doesn't for future budgets is a terrible, awful idea. The point of the House getting such a power is to democratically divvy up the allocations within the budget across the country. You give that power to a president and he has no one to check him in his power. so he could, in theory, deny funding to states that he dislikes.

and you really think that's a good idea?
 
2013-03-20 03:49:01 PM  

Retro42: 3StratMan: You know how we know the whole "prisoner release because of cuts" thing is nothing more than scare tactics and a political move? Because, apparently, illegal immigrants are the only ones being released. I guess there are no American citizens that are locked up that could be released at all.

So by your logic it would be better to release citizens jailed for whatever reasons and keep paying to house low priority undocumented immigrants.


What I'm saying is that there has to be some American citizens in prisons and jails SOMEWHERE that would qualify to be released before some of the immigrants are. Why can it only be illegal (yes, ILLEGAL) immigrants that are released? Political move all the way.

By your logic, apparently, ALL illegal immigrant's crimes are way lower priority than ANY American citizen's crimes.
 
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