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2013-03-20 09:32:29 AM
I've used Reader since 2009; will miss it, but won't be migrating to whateverthef--k social media excuse they've come up with to replace it.
 
2013-03-20 10:06:31 AM
I've also really enjoyed Reader. I recently started using Brief - a Firefox plugin that operates off of live bookmarks. I'm liking it so far since, like Reader, it lives in its own tab instead of in the status bar or as a side panel. It's not the same but it's closest of anything I've tried yet.
=Smidge=
 
2013-03-20 10:11:01 AM
Yes, I could have actually bookmarked Google Reader, but I trusted Google

Well there's your problem.
 
2013-03-20 10:17:45 AM
'don't be evil...be chaotic neutral'
 
2013-03-20 10:19:58 AM
I tried out a few and found  http://theoldreader.com to be the least horrible alternative. It's decent, but Google Reader was better.

It's so irritating that they're doing it in the first place. Social media is a terrible way to keep track of news stories, webcomics, and all the other assorted crap that RSS is so good at. I mean, the clue  is in the name, right? Social media is designed for keeping in touch with people I know socially. Try to force it to do other things and it's gonna suck at it.

Oh, and Google+ is orders of magnitude worse than Facebook (which is itself not a particularly well designed site). All they're doing is losing good will and driving customers away. Nobody is going to be thinking "Oh, I really liked Google Reader so I guess I'll use Google+ instead.". They're thinking "This is really farking annoying, now I have to find a new RSS reader and go to the effort of setting it up the way I like.".
 
2013-03-20 10:36:47 AM

Gunther: I tried out a few and found  http://theoldreader.com to be the least horrible alternative. It's decent, but Google Reader was better.

It's so irritating that they're doing it in the first place. Social media is a terrible way to keep track of news stories, webcomics, and all the other assorted crap that RSS is so good at. I mean, the clue  is in the name, right? Social media is designed for keeping in touch with people I know socially. Try to force it to do other things and it's gonna suck at it.


But its a great way to monetize dumbasses.


Oh, and Google+ is orders of magnitude worse than Facebook (which is itself not a particularly well designed site). All they're doing is losing good will and driving customers away. Nobody is going to be thinking "Oh, I really liked Google Reader so I guess I'll use Google+ instead.". They're thinking "This is really farking annoying, now I have to find a new RSS reader and go to the effort of setting it up the way I like.".


Hubris and nemesis at google.  I'm sure they have many powerpoints to convince themselves otherwise.
 
2013-03-20 10:37:48 AM
Actually no, google would never use powerpoint amirite? But whatever the Google Office equivalent to powerpoint is. Anyone know? Not like I'm going to use google office and find out any time today.
 
2013-03-20 10:53:05 AM
I use reader to keep track of pages I want to keep up to date on without having 40-50 tabs open, but generally read the links on the original page (except for some webcomics where the image is included in the RSS feed). So it was a requirement for me to have the ability to middle-click on links and open a bunch of them in a browser, which limited me to browser based RSS readers. (side note: I did like the format and feel of RSSOwl but it was not ideal in the aforementioned regard). I tried feedly which I hated (for Fark's RSS feeds, it cut off most of the link text in the title view, the closest to the old reader format...the magazine format and all the rest were just a waste of space with unnecessary images and white space) and, while I liked another online-based reader whose name currently escapes me, I didn't like the fact that it was $24 or $36 for a yearly subscription and the free version limited you to 12 feeds and updating every half hour.

I had bought a virtual private server a few months back at $40 for the year to set up some simple web hosting, so when I came across Tiny Tiny RSS, it seemed a good fit. I installed it yesterday with minimal effort and have been up and running since then. The developer is extremely involved with the software; I suggested a new feature (disabling embedded images on a per-feed basis so you could remove embedded images from NSFW/other feeds where you don't care about the image content) and within an hour he had the new code in the github repository. Anyway, if you've got the hardware and aren't liking any of the suggested replacements for reader, I would highly recommend giving it a try.

http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki
http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki/InstallationNotes

The link on that page labeled "weekend project" was extremely helpful even to a complete newb to apache2/php/mysql. I have a cron job set up to update all feeds every 2 minutes. So far it's been pretty lightweight as far as I can tell and has served my needs completely.
 
2013-03-20 11:14:31 AM
Google Reader has been mostly dead for a while now, ever since they got rid of the sharing and commenting feature and pushed those over to Google+. At this point, good riddance.
 
2013-03-20 01:19:49 PM

Smidge204: I've also really enjoyed Reader. I recently started using Brief - a Firefox plugin that operates off of live bookmarks. I'm liking it so far since, like Reader, it lives in its own tab instead of in the status bar or as a side panel. It's not the same but it's closest of anything I've tried yet.
=Smidge=


I've been using feedly for about a week and I wish I'd heard of it sooner. Not in the PC, but on the mobile phone (galaxy nexus) it completely annihilates Google Reader. Plus contingency plan to migrate trasnparently = sold!
 
2013-03-20 02:30:14 PM

sotua: I've been using feedly for about a week and I wish I'd heard of it sooner. Not in the PC, but on the mobile phone (galaxy nexus) it completely annihilates Google Reader. Plus contingency plan to migrate trasnparently = sold!


I've been using feedly for a couple of years. I like the magazine type interface but I caution you to temper your expectations. For the past six months or so they've made constant UI changes for no apparent reason other than to change things. At the same time, the stability of the app has gone way down. This doesn't give me a whole lot of hope for them getting the backend programming right when they clone Google Reader. Be sure to have a export of your feeds in case an "ooops, sorry about that" type of event happens with feedly.
 
2013-03-20 03:21:21 PM

bsharitt: Google Reader has been mostly dead for a while now, ever since they got rid of the sharing and commenting feature and pushed those over to Google+. At this point, good riddance.


You do realize you aren't the only person around using Google Reader, right?
 
2013-03-20 03:40:39 PM

Gunther: I tried out a few and found http://theoldreader.com to be the least horrible alternative. It's decent, but Google Reader was better.


Thank you. I tried replacing google reader before and couldn't find a suitable alternative, but this appears workable. Too bad I have to sign into google to use it, I was hoping I could finally wipe my hands clean of their BS.
 
2013-03-20 03:43:41 PM

bmckenna: Tiny Tiny RSS


You just gave my RasbPi a new use. Emulator+wireless PS3 controller AND web server!
 
2013-03-20 05:18:59 PM
Am I the only one that just types addresses into my browser like reader.google.com?
It's quicker than looking for a bookmark....
 
2013-03-20 05:59:11 PM
RSS being replaced by social media?     I thought the internet experience was going to evolve over time, not devolve.   So now rather have a customized pool of specified news I can cultivate from, I have to sift through hundreds of brain droppings from people describing what they ate for lunch or how much being stuck in 5 o'clock traffic gives them a sad?   Oh, I hope it's in an illegible letter salad of acronyms, abbreviations, phonetics and mis-spellings with no semblance of correct punctuation.   What a great day for the advancement of society through technology!   I'm sorry, what I meant to say is "Wut a gr8 day 4 teh advancemunt of soc. thru tehcnoloG!!!!11  #GrumpyCatRules"


And I'm generally not a Google basher but this is pants on the head retarded.   You know a really good way to ensure that no one ever uses Google+?   Create a precedent that you'll rip a product out from under your consumers feet after they've invested a lot of time customizing and cultivating it.    And as far as crying that 3rd parties are using your service as a backbone, I'm sorry but cry me a river.  Don't spend all your time and effort and promotion attempting to position yourself at the epicenter of the online experience and then whine that too many entities are branching off of you.
 
2013-03-20 10:00:43 PM

Gunther: I tried out a few and found http://theoldreader.com to be the least horrible alternative. It's decent, but Google Reader was better.


I tried it out, and it seemed really slow and inconsistent at getting new stories. I set it up with all of my feeds from Reader, marked everything as read to basically start from zero and let it go. A new story would appear in reader hours (even a whole day) before it would show up in theoldreader.

Am I the only one with this problem? Has it improved?

I'm still looking for a reader replacement. I only have 3 basic requirements:
1.) keep my feeds organized and up to date. There seem to be a lot that do this okay enough, but none as good as Reader.
2.) Just give me a simple interface. TheOldReader seemed good for this by mimicking Reader's interface. Feedly seems to fail at this, as I can see no rhyme or reason on how it is presenting my feeds.
3.) If I have it pinned as an app tab in FireFox light up the tab when a new story comes through a feed. In Firefox, if something changes on a pinned tab, a highligh shows up under the favicon to let you know that something is new. So far NONE of the possible replacements have done this.

Anyone found anything good? Preferably better than Feedly or TheOldReader, unless they have improved as well.
 
2013-03-21 01:51:46 AM

EngineerAU: sotua: I've been using feedly for about a week and I wish I'd heard of it sooner. Not in the PC, but on the mobile phone (galaxy nexus) it completely annihilates Google Reader. Plus contingency plan to migrate trasnparently = sold!

I've been using feedly for a couple of years. I like the magazine type interface but I caution you to temper your expectations. For the past six months or so they've made constant UI changes for no apparent reason other than to change things. At the same time, the stability of the app has gone way down. This doesn't give me a whole lot of hope for them getting the backend programming right when they clone Google Reader. Be sure to have a export of your feeds in case an "ooops, sorry about that" type of event happens with feedly.


Dammit. THanks for the advice.
 
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