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2013-03-20 12:00:16 AM  

elpresidenteALO: feckingmorons: djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.

I'll buy you a gun if you want. You have to pass the background check, fill out the 4473, and (this is my rule not the government's) take and pass an NRA safety course.

I'll take that deal. There's a sig mosquito at wild west I've had my eye on.



Oh, no I get to pick the guns. If it were that easy I'd take my own deal.
 
2013-03-20 12:01:17 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: noitsnot: Stop being goofy, troll. Blues, Jazz, and Rock all came from black people. Scottish Gaels - what the hell is that supposed to be? Next you'll be saying it was aliens.

Either you're pretending to be ignorant for the sake of sarcasm or you're a close contender for the most ignorant left-liberal on this thread (and God knows, it's already a crowded field). If you genuinely haven't heard of the Scottish Gaels then you have no business commenting on matters to do with the ethnic origin of popular music in the United States -- you can just go back to your Sociology 101 class and the all- purpose explanation for all evils that "it was the white man what done it".


www.clashmusic.com

Yo, man - I'ma let you finish, but I created all music in all forms in all of history - except y'all country-ass banjo crap.  That's on you, whitey.
 
2013-03-20 12:01:55 AM  

feckingmorons: Think of it as analagous to the anti-Muslim move and the murder of our ambassador and three others on September 11, 2012.


Holy crap, the retards just when full Benghazi

/ You never go full Benghazi
 
2013-03-20 12:02:16 AM  

jso2897: EvilRacistNaziFascist: Apparently, you either can't or don't read, either. I have already stated, at various points in this thread that I am not black,


So you're a cringing, self- hating white liberal sack of sh*t? Believe me, I'm sorry to hear it -- I'd much rather have believed that you were a proud black man, to hear the way you've slandered people of European origin as being ignorant, inbred, merely a "recessive mutation" doomed to extinction, etc. -- at least a black man would have been saying these things out of his own misguided pride, but for you to damn your ancestors and your descendants to annihilation, well -- you may hate yourself for your skin colour, you pathetic bastard, but most of the rest of us Whiteys don't feel the same way; and just to spite you we will continue to breed and frustrate whatever goddamn monoracial dystopia it is that you have in mind for the future. Now kindly kill yourself and stop polluting our gene pool.
 
2013-03-20 12:02:39 AM  

jso2897: feckingmorons: jso2897: feckingmorons: jso2897: I've been goofing on an actual retard.

Many people find the term retard offensive.

I'm disappointed an official of the site gave you TF, you don't deserve it as you are classless and vulgar. I hope you go away.

Says the guy who calls himself a " f**king moron"- apparently unaware that the term "moron" is also considered offensive, and, like "retarded", was once an acceptable term for a mentally deficient person.

In 1840. You'll notice that my user name is plural, it refers to people such as yourself.

Idiot and imbecile were also common terms in the mid 19th century, in fact there was a hierarchy of those terms. You may select whichever you wish for yourself.

Again - I am just performing a service - helping perpetual victims feel even more victimized. Calling me names is a waste of your time - I am tired of American men who whine and cry like little girls anytime anything inconveniences them. You embarrass me, and I am telling you so. In one way or another, I will continue to do so until you grow up and stop whining and crying all the time.
I don't order people I don't like to go away - the fact that someone disagrees with me on the internet does not rank as a problem in my life. If what I say bothers you that much, you should ask yourself why - it's the element of truth that makes words hurt - bullshiat is easily laughed off.


If a mod gives someone TF can he also take it away? I certainly hope so as you really don't add anything to these conversations, you're just odd.
 
2013-03-20 12:03:22 AM  

noitsnot: EvilRacistNaziFascist: noitsnot: Stop being goofy, troll. Blues, Jazz, and Rock all came from black people. Scottish Gaels - what the hell is that supposed to be? Next you'll be saying it was aliens.

Either you're pretending to be ignorant for the sake of sarcasm or you're a close contender for the most ignorant left-liberal on this thread (and God knows, it's already a crowded field). If you genuinely haven't heard of the Scottish Gaels then you have no business commenting on matters to do with the ethnic origin of popular music in the United States -- you can just go back to your Sociology 101 class and the all- purpose explanation for all evils that "it was the white man what done it".

[www.clashmusic.com image 280x303]

Yo, man - I'ma let you finish, but I created all music in all forms in all of history - except y'all country-ass banjo crap.  That's on you, whitey.


( IRONY: The banjo actually has an African origin... )
 
2013-03-20 12:04:10 AM  

feckingmorons: BGates: feckingmorons: BGates: A magazine is part of the firearm that allows the firearm to discharge.

No, that would be the firing pin. The magazine holds the bullets.

Have you ever actually seen or touched a gun? Go to a gun store they will explain it to you. You'll probably enjoy the sport if you just give it a try with an open mind. Leave wikipedia at home.

No shiat!

Can you now tell me why an ammo can full of belted ammo is considered a magazine?  I bet you think the rifle wouldn't shoot without it.


I really have no idea what you are on about. If you have a firearm and one round of ammunition you can fire the weapon.

What really are you talking about, it seems as if you're arguing with yourself and you needn't type all those out. Go into a small dark room and talk amongst yourself.


Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.
 
2013-03-20 12:05:02 AM  

Fart_Machine: feckingmorons: Fart_Machine: feckingmorons: No, we all know that police departments don't have PIO's available when important news stories are breaking. Think of it as analagous to the anti-Muslim move and the murder of our ambassador and three others on September 11, 2012.

Yes, that's the perfect analogy.  This is the most important news story ever!  You're a loon.

I used an analogy, not a direct comparison. You're a simpleton.

See an analogy would be something comparable.  An international incident involving murder isn't the same as being bothered by CPS.  You farking dipshait.


No, you don't understand. I'll try to make it clearer. After the attack on the US compound the Obama administration made up a bullshiat story that any rational person saw right through. The apologists for his administration bought it hook line and sinker and tried to resell it to the normal people, but we weren't buying.

In the matter instant the police chief is stalling for time to get all his facts from the officers so the story he makes up is not as transparently nonsense.

I hope that helped.
 
2013-03-20 12:06:15 AM  

BGates: feckingmorons: BGates: feckingmorons: BGates: A magazine is part of the firearm that allows the firearm to discharge.

No, that would be the firing pin. The magazine holds the bullets.

Have you ever actually seen or touched a gun? Go to a gun store they will explain it to you. You'll probably enjoy the sport if you just give it a try with an open mind. Leave wikipedia at home.

No shiat!

Can you now tell me why an ammo can full of belted ammo is considered a magazine?  I bet you think the rifle wouldn't shoot without it.


I really have no idea what you are on about. If you have a firearm and one round of ammunition you can fire the weapon.

What really are you talking about, it seems as if you're arguing with yourself and you needn't type all those out. Go into a small dark room and talk amongst yourself.

Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.


Neither a clip nor a magazine are required to fire a rifle. I'll ask one more time, what is your point?
 
2013-03-20 12:06:20 AM  

HeadLever: jso2897: So, you ARE talking about the same NRA that wanted to ban "Saturday Night Specials" because they were commonly used by the "wrong sort of people", if you know what I mean.

The NRA actually had a hand in sinking Nixon's proposal to ban these weapons.  Just so you know....

That being said, there was some concern about their saftey.


They supported the ban up until 1970, then reversed themselves. It was never about safety.
 
2013-03-20 12:08:06 AM  

BGates: Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.


According to Webster Dictionary clip and magazine are synonymous.  Until you get them to change the definitions please stop.

/I don't agree with Webster since they are not the same in my opinion, but they have added an "also" to clip which is the same as the definition for magazine, and if we are to accept them as the final word on anything instead of just letting people decide any random string of letters means whatever they say it does, we have to hold somebody as the authority.
 
2013-03-20 12:10:46 AM  
The Blaze could report the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and I'd be skeptical.
 
2013-03-20 12:11:17 AM  

feckingmorons: No, you don't understand. I'll try to make it clearer. After the attack on the US compound the Obama administration made up a bullshiat story that any rational person saw right through. The apologists for his administration bought it hook line and sinker and tried to resell it to the normal people, but we weren't buying.

In the matter instant the police chief is stalling for time to get all his facts from the officers so the story he makes up is not as transparently nonsense.

I hope that helped.


Yes, you're a conspiracy loon.  Thanks for making it clear.
 
2013-03-20 12:11:44 AM  

feckingmorons: BGates: feckingmorons: BGates: feckingmorons: BGates: A magazine is part of the firearm that allows the firearm to discharge.

No, that would be the firing pin. The magazine holds the bullets.

Have you ever actually seen or touched a gun? Go to a gun store they will explain it to you. You'll probably enjoy the sport if you just give it a try with an open mind. Leave wikipedia at home.

No shiat!

Can you now tell me why an ammo can full of belted ammo is considered a magazine?  I bet you think the rifle wouldn't shoot without it.


I really have no idea what you are on about. If you have a firearm and one round of ammunition you can fire the weapon.

What really are you talking about, it seems as if you're arguing with yourself and you needn't type all those out. Go into a small dark room and talk amongst yourself.

Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.

Neither a clip nor a magazine are required to fire a rifle. I'll ask one more time, what is your point?


And I'll say again.  NO SHIAT!  That isn't the discussion.  The discussion is the difference between a clip and a magazine.
 
2013-03-20 12:12:02 AM  
EvilRacistNaziFascist (farkied: Screen name does not seem at all ironic): Incidentally, the most "inbred" people in the Western world at the moment are Muslim immigrants to the UK, who due to extensive cousin marriage are responsible for a vastly disproportionate share of birth defects in that country; but no doubt merely to mention that fact is WAAH WACIST,

No, it's not "WAAH WACIST."  It's not even implausible.  It just ain't *so* unless you can back it up.

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2013-03-20 12:12:51 AM  

jso2897: HeadLever: jso2897: So, you ARE talking about the same NRA that wanted to ban "Saturday Night Specials" because they were commonly used by the "wrong sort of people", if you know what I mean.

The NRA actually had a hand in sinking Nixon's proposal to ban these weapons.  Just so you know....

That being said, there was some concern about their saftey.

They supported the ban up until 1970, then reversed themselves. It was never about safety.


There is also the consideration that everyone is entitled to a firearm to protect themselves. The poor could not afford expensive handguns, but the less expensive revolvers were in the price range such that lower income folks, those often more susceptible to violent crime could protect themselves. The NRA was,and has always been, the champion of every law abiding citizen, white or black, rich or poor, having the right to own a firearm if they so choose.
 
2013-03-20 12:13:31 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: jso2897: EvilRacistNaziFascist: Apparently, you either can't or don't read, either. I have already stated, at various points in this thread that I am not black,

So you're a cringing, self- hating white liberal sack of sh*t? Believe me, I'm sorry to hear it -- I'd much rather have believed that you were a proud black man, to hear the way you've slandered people of European origin as being ignorant, inbred, merely a "recessive mutation" doomed to extinction, etc. -- at least a black man would have been saying these things out of his own misguided pride, but for you to damn your ancestors and your descendants to annihilation, well -- you may hate yourself for your skin colour, you pathetic bastard, but most of the rest of us Whiteys don't feel the same way; and just to spite you we will continue to breed and frustrate whatever goddamn monoracial dystopia it is that you have in mind for the future. Now kindly kill yourself and stop polluting our gene pool.


No. Your pointless rage amuses me, and I would like to see more of it. The fact that you take yourself, and the imaginary construct you think is your "race" so seriously is hilarious, to me. You are the perfect model of the perpetual victim, and seem to view the whole world as some vast conspiracy aimed at you
My God,man, don't you have any real grasp of how microscopically unimportant you are? Or I am, for that matter? Or the imaginary "white race" that we don't belong to because it doesn't exist? How can you waste your time and mind believing in this crap?
 
2013-03-20 12:13:44 AM  

manimal2878: BGates: Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.

According to Webster Dictionary clip and magazine are synonymous.  Until you get them to change the definitions please stop.

/I don't agree with Webster since they are not the same in my opinion, but they have added an "also" to clip which is the same as the definition for magazine, and if we are to accept them as the final word on anything instead of just letting people decide any random string of letters means whatever they say it does, we have to hold somebody as the authority.


I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.  You also don't have to read my comments.  Easy fix for you.
 
2013-03-20 12:15:14 AM  

BGates: The discussion is the difference between a clip and a magazine.


No, the discussion is about police and social services staff improperly demanding access to a man's house to inspect his guns. The man refused their request to enter and they went away mad. The rights we hold under the Constitution against illegal search prevailed over some pushy woman from DFYS.


You've just attempted to derail the real discussion for your own bizarre purposes.
 
2013-03-20 12:15:56 AM  

BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.


Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.
 
2013-03-20 12:16:38 AM  

feckingmorons: jso2897: HeadLever: jso2897: So, you ARE talking about the same NRA that wanted to ban "Saturday Night Specials" because they were commonly used by the "wrong sort of people", if you know what I mean.

The NRA actually had a hand in sinking Nixon's proposal to ban these weapons.  Just so you know....

That being said, there was some concern about their saftey.

They supported the ban up until 1970, then reversed themselves. It was never about safety.

There is also the consideration that everyone is entitled to a firearm to protect themselves. The poor could not afford expensive handguns, but the less expensive revolvers were in the price range such that lower income folks, those often more susceptible to violent crime could protect themselves. The NRA was,and has always been, the champion of every law abiding citizen, white or black, rich or poor, having the right to own a firearm if they so choose.


That's why I thought the NRA were hypocrites then, for supporting the ban, and why they are hypocrites now for not supporting the general right to keep and bear arms. They only support the right to keep and bear the sort of arms that nice, "respectable" (and we all know what that means) people keep and bear.
 
2013-03-20 12:16:38 AM  

BGates: manimal2878: BGates: Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.

According to Webster Dictionary clip and magazine are synonymous.  Until you get them to change the definitions please stop.

/I don't agree with Webster since they are not the same in my opinion, but they have added an "also" to clip which is the same as the definition for magazine, and if we are to accept them as the final word on anything instead of just letting people decide any random string of letters means whatever they say it does, we have to hold somebody as the authority.

I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.  You also don't have to read my comments.  Easy fix for you.


I wouldn't hold a logically inconsistent farker with a limited grasp on the English language as an authority either.

Now, what qualifications do you have in etymology?
 
2013-03-20 12:18:59 AM  

manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.


Dictionaries tend to focus on traditional, common, and popular usage of words. They're not so good with technical terms and jargon.
 
2013-03-20 12:20:36 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: EvilRacistNaziFascist (farkied: Screen name does not seem at all ironic): Incidentally, the most "inbred" people in the Western world at the moment are Muslim immigrants to the UK, who due to extensive cousin marriage are responsible for a vastly disproportionate share of birth defects in that country; but no doubt merely to mention that fact is WAAH WACIST,

No, it's not "WAAH WACIST."  It's not even implausible.  It just ain't *so* unless you can back it up.


From http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam

"A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in the United Kingdom, 55% of whom marry a first cousin. Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability."

What, even more inbred than white British people?!? Surely not. Back to those banjo stereotypes...
 
2013-03-20 12:20:39 AM  

lolpix: manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.

Dictionaries tend to focus on traditional, common, and popular usage of words. They're not so good with technical terms and jargon.


So you're upset with dictionaries because they're conservative!?
 
2013-03-20 12:22:30 AM  

feckingmorons: You might not like the NRA but they stand for the freedoms that made this country great


The NRA stands for putting Republicans in public office.  Republicans do not "stand for the freedoms that made this country great" or any other freedom except for the freedom of plutocrats to privatize profit and socialize risk.
 
2013-03-20 12:23:04 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Lee Jackson Beauregard: EvilRacistNaziFascist (farkied: Screen name does not seem at all ironic): Incidentally, the most "inbred" people in the Western world at the moment are Muslim immigrants to the UK, who due to extensive cousin marriage are responsible for a vastly disproportionate share of birth defects in that country; but no doubt merely to mention that fact is WAAH WACIST,

No, it's not "WAAH WACIST."  It's not even implausible.  It just ain't *so* unless you can back it up.

From http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam

"A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in the United Kingdom, 55% of whom marry a first cousin. Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability."

What, even more inbred than white British people?!? Surely not. Back to those banjo stereotypes...


See? It's not HIS "race" that's inbred and inferior! It's that OTHER "race" that's inbred and inferior, you racist!
 
2013-03-20 12:23:10 AM  

rohar: lolpix: manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.

Dictionaries tend to focus on traditional, common, and popular usage of words. They're not so good with technical terms and jargon.

So you're upset with dictionaries because they're conservative!?


No. I'm not upset about anything at the moment. I'm simply pointing out the dictionary is not the final word among people who know what words mean.
 
2013-03-20 12:24:21 AM  

rohar: BGates: manimal2878: BGates: Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.

According to Webster Dictionary clip and magazine are synonymous.  Until you get them to change the definitions please stop.

/I don't agree with Webster since they are not the same in my opinion, but they have added an "also" to clip which is the same as the definition for magazine, and if we are to accept them as the final word on anything instead of just letting people decide any random string of letters means whatever they say it does, we have to hold somebody as the authority.

I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.  You also don't have to read my comments.  Easy fix for you.

I wouldn't hold a logically inconsistent farker with a limited grasp on the English language as an authority either.

Now, what qualifications do you have in etymology?


Stop it, you two.

This is like arguing whether a tomato is a vegetable or fruit. The answer is "yes".

Botanically it's a fruit. It's a culinary vegetable.
 
2013-03-20 12:24:50 AM  

lolpix: rohar: lolpix: manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.

Dictionaries tend to focus on traditional, common, and popular usage of words. They're not so good with technical terms and jargon.

So you're upset with dictionaries because they're conservative!?

No. I'm not upset about anything at the moment. I'm simply pointing out the dictionary is not the final word among people who know what words mean.


So the conservative definition I wrong, and your new, less traditional definition is right?

/farking liberals...
 
2013-03-20 12:25:53 AM  

jaytkay: This is like arguing whether a tomato is a vegetable or fruit. The answer is "yes".


This discussion has gone full potato.
 
2013-03-20 12:26:34 AM  

feckingmorons: elpresidenteALO: feckingmorons: djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.

I'll buy you a gun if you want. You have to pass the background check, fill out the 4473, and (this is my rule not the government's) take and pass an NRA safety course.

I'll take that deal. There's a sig mosquito at wild west I've had my eye on.


Oh, no I get to pick the guns. If it were that easy I'd take my own deal.


Great. So I'm gonna be the guy at the range with the hot pink, bedazzled Hi point.... Actually that does'nt sound bad. Do your worst sir.
 
2013-03-20 12:26:51 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Lee Jackson Beauregard: EvilRacistNaziFascist (farkied: Screen name does not seem at all ironic): Incidentally, the most "inbred" people in the Western world at the moment are Muslim immigrants to the UK, who due to extensive cousin marriage are responsible for a vastly disproportionate share of birth defects in that country; but no doubt merely to mention that fact is WAAH WACIST,

No, it's not "WAAH WACIST."  It's not even implausible.  It just ain't *so* unless you can back it up.

From http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam

"A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in the United Kingdom, 55% of whom marry a first cousin. Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability."


There.  Was that hard?

What, even more inbred than white British people?!? Surely not. Back to those banjo stereotypes...

One, I wasn't aware that "white British people" were stereotyped as inbred.  Two, I'm Southern and I have little use for "banjo stereotypes."
 
2013-03-20 12:27:43 AM  

jso2897: That's why I thought the NRA were hypocrites then, for supporting the ban, and why they are hypocrites now for not supporting the general right to keep and bear arms. They only support the right to keep and bear the sort of arms that nice, "respectable" (and we all know what that means) people keep and bear.


No, not really. Read the Armed Citizen column, many of them are obviously black and poor and... well not the Country Club set. They don't say Negro Robert Smith, 32 from Watts like the newspapers did 50 years ago, but you can tell the coach from MLK HS in Detroit is probably a black, not rich guy. Lots of people that have to use firearms to defend themselves are just regular folks.

The NRA hasn't done a good job marketing itself to the black community, or the hispanic community, or the lower income communities, but they do advocate for the rights of all citizens who can lawfully own a gun. Heck they're pushing for Chicago inner city residents right to own and carry a gun for their own protection, something their lilly white, millionaire mayor opposes vehemently.

The NRA is doing a tiny bit better of late as they have some black spokesperson and are making strides to be more inclusive. Black ,white, rich, poor, gay, straight, atheist, Bible thumper, the NRA doesn't care who you are if you want firearms training, firearms safety information or an advocate for your Second Amendment rights the NRA is the place for you.
 
2013-03-20 12:28:13 AM  

rohar: lolpix: rohar: lolpix: manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.

Dictionaries tend to focus on traditional, common, and popular usage of words. They're not so good with technical terms and jargon.

So you're upset with dictionaries because they're conservative!?

No. I'm not upset about anything at the moment. I'm simply pointing out the dictionary is not the final word among people who know what words mean.

So the conservative definition I wrong, and your new, less traditional definition is right?

/farking liberals...


Do you get paid to act like a twat on the internet, or is it just hobby you take very seriously?
 
2013-03-20 12:29:42 AM  
A clip nothing more than a convenient packaging device containing an friendly, predefined number of rounds for an end-user to load into a magazine. In other words, in rare occasions such as belt-fed weapons (whereas the can itself could be mounted to the weapon, in which the can could be considered both a clip and a magazine, clips are not considered part of a weapon's sub-system.
 
2013-03-20 12:32:23 AM  

jaytkay: Guy with self-proclaimed Internet "gun-law expert" lawyer on speed dial "just happens" to innocently provoke an unconscionable gun search from DFS (or so he claims).


The question is, how many times did social services do something like this until they finally ran into someone who was in the position to tell them to fark off?
 
2013-03-20 12:34:05 AM  

rohar: BGates: manimal2878: BGates: Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.

According to Webster Dictionary clip and magazine are synonymous.  Until you get them to change the definitions please stop.

/I don't agree with Webster since they are not the same in my opinion, but they have added an "also" to clip which is the same as the definition for magazine, and if we are to accept them as the final word on anything instead of just letting people decide any random string of letters means whatever they say it does, we have to hold somebody as the authority.

I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.  You also don't have to read my comments.  Easy fix for you.

I wouldn't hold a logically inconsistent farker with a limited grasp on the English language as an authority either.

Now, what qualifications do you have in etymology?


I've been logically consistent the entire time.  I'm not going to debate this with you as you are trying to take the discussion away from your failed attempts to define a magazine a clip and a can of ammo a magazine.  You are wrong and are now trying to make it personal.
 
2013-03-20 12:34:05 AM  

feckingmorons: No, not really. Read the Armed Citizen column,


Dear NRA,

I never thought this would happen to me. This one time, at band camp...
 
2013-03-20 12:34:18 AM  

manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.


The entire world speaks English?

If we were to pick a dictionary we felt was authoritative in the English speaking world it would have to be the Oxford English Dictionary
 
2013-03-20 12:34:35 AM  

lolpix: rohar: lolpix: rohar: lolpix: manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.

Dictionaries tend to focus on traditional, common, and popular usage of words. They're not so good with technical terms and jargon.

So you're upset with dictionaries because they're conservative!?

No. I'm not upset about anything at the moment. I'm simply pointing out the dictionary is not the final word among people who know what words mean.

So the conservative definition I wrong, and your new, less traditional definition is right?

/farking liberals...

Do you get paid to act like a twat on the internet, or is it just hobby you take very seriously?


Meh, I work predicate logic for money.  It's kinda a side effect of my profession.

You see, logic constrains the mind.  I doesn't allow one to be vague or inconsistent.

How you feeling after being so vague and inconsistent?
 
2013-03-20 12:36:35 AM  

rohar: feckingmorons: rohar: Quantum Apostrophe: rohar: mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]

You sure you've got that right?  You see, a magazine is just a pile of rounds stored or fed in to a breach.  A magazine is mechanically intrinsic to the loading of the breach.  From the picture, it appears you've got it bass ackwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_%28ammunition%29

Look at that, you submitted a definition that states a clip is a magazine with no distinguishing characteristics.
Sorry, I'm suddenly bored with this conversation.

It is pretty easy, and if you want to make it basic so that we can all go with a common understanding a clip holds bullets but is removed when the bullets are loaded (into a gun or magazine). A magazine holds bullets inside it and from there the bullets are forced with the use of a spring into the firing chamber of a gun.

It is all about the spring.

Look at that, a magazine with no spring:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 393x599]

You sure you've got a handle on what this is all about?


You seriously don't know shiat about firearms.  That isn't a magazine.  That's commonly called a "belt".
 
2013-03-20 12:37:02 AM  

feckingmorons: BGates: The discussion is the difference between a clip and a magazine.

No, the discussion is about police and social services staff improperly demanding access to a man's house to inspect his guns. The man refused their request to enter and they went away mad. The rights we hold under the Constitution against illegal search prevailed over some pushy woman from DFYS.


You've just attempted to derail the real discussion for your own bizarre purposes.


That was the discussion you may have been having 500 comments ago.  But not the one I am in.
 
2013-03-20 12:37:15 AM  

lolpix: I'm simply pointing out the dictionary is not the final word among people who know what words mean.


Yeah it is, thats actually the definition of dictionary.
 
2013-03-20 12:37:20 AM  

BGates: rohar: BGates: manimal2878: BGates: Keep up then.  The discussion was about the difference between a clip and a magazine.  It's obvious you don't know the difference.

According to Webster Dictionary clip and magazine are synonymous.  Until you get them to change the definitions please stop.

/I don't agree with Webster since they are not the same in my opinion, but they have added an "also" to clip which is the same as the definition for magazine, and if we are to accept them as the final word on anything instead of just letting people decide any random string of letters means whatever they say it does, we have to hold somebody as the authority.

I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.  You also don't have to read my comments.  Easy fix for you.

I wouldn't hold a logically inconsistent farker with a limited grasp on the English language as an authority either.

Now, what qualifications do you have in etymology?

I've been logically consistent the entire time.  I'm not going to debate this with you as you are trying to take the discussion away from your failed attempts to define a magazine a clip and a can of ammo a magazine.  You are wrong and are now trying to make it personal.


Hardly personal.  I didn't bring this issue up.  I'm more curious why it needs to be an issue than that it is an issue.

Maybe you could help me out.  Given all that's available, publically, to define these terms, could you define them within the constraints of the common vernacular?
 
2013-03-20 12:37:36 AM  

jso2897: No. Your pointless rage amuses me, and I would like to see more of it. The fact that you take yourself, and the imaginary construct you think is your "race" so seriously is hilarious, to me.


O wait! I think I've heard this particular line of bullsh*t -- races are imaginary, especially the white race, but at the same time the racism of white people (who don't exist, except as a construct) is not only not imaginary but can be blamed for most of the world's problems. Is that right?

You are the perfect model of the perpetual victim, and seem to view the whole world as some vast conspiracy aimed at you

Err, no. Did I say that? True, I don't like craven, cowardly white liberals who hate themselves for their skin colour, but that doesn't logically entail that I feel victimized myself (except to the degree that one normally feels victimized by the abject stupidity of others -- though perhaps the more accurate term is "unpleasantly surprised...")

My God,man, don't you have any real grasp of how microscopically unimportant you are? Or I am, for that matter?

From a cosmic perspective you are correct; from a human perspective you are as wrong as it is possible to be. And if you were merely looking at things from the cosmic perspective -- like the superior thinker you doubtless imagine yourself to be -- you would have no reason to embrace the extinction of the white race in particular, as opposed to any other racial group on the earth.

Just imagine that I had come into this thread prophesying the eventual obliteration of black people as a race and -- when you objected -- imagine that I had replied that "it doesn't matter anyway because we're all unimportant from a cosmic perspective". Would you have respected that as a legitimate response, and absolved me of the charge of racism? F*ck no you wouldn't have, you hypocritical scumbag.

Or the imaginary "white race" that we don't belong to because it doesn't exist? How can you waste your time and mind believing in this crap?

Yep, as usual the white race doesn't exist, but white racism does... and you were talking about "crap"? Physician, heal thyself.
 
2013-03-20 12:37:43 AM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: willfullyobscure: Next gun thread I'm handicapping to 5 posts max. just to recap, we're good, right? hit all the notes, covered all the bases? White boy in fatigues with a miltary-style rifle, he's a fine young lad, Dad isn't a freak or a prepper at all, go it.  And we're all good with this fine young man, clearly also a target shooter out to plink, I assume?

[www.healthtrainingguide.com image 850x565]

Well, who's the young man in the photo? If it's a black adolescent in the States out shooting with his father, who cares? If (as is more likely, since you've bothered to post it) it's a black adolescent in the Congo or Sierra Leone or elsewhere in Africa who's been conscripted into taking part in his country's war then -- guess what pal -- the context is completely different. The only reason you can't see any distinction is because you've been indoctrinated to believe that guns, despite being inanimate objects in themselves, are inherently destructive or evil regardless of how they are used; in other words, you've fallen prey to the mindless emotional hysteria that has governed the gun- control movement since forever (and which has only recently been further exacerbated by Sandy Hook).


Heh.

That's the best $5 I ever spent on a farker.
 
2013-03-20 12:38:22 AM  

OgreMagi: rohar: feckingmorons: rohar: Quantum Apostrophe: rohar: mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]

You sure you've got that right?  You see, a magazine is just a pile of rounds stored or fed in to a breach.  A magazine is mechanically intrinsic to the loading of the breach.  From the picture, it appears you've got it bass ackwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_%28ammunition%29

Look at that, you submitted a definition that states a clip is a magazine with no distinguishing characteristics.
Sorry, I'm suddenly bored with this conversation.

It is pretty easy, and if you want to make it basic so that we can all go with a common understanding a clip holds bullets but is removed when the bullets are loaded (into a gun or magazine). A magazine holds bullets inside it and from there the bullets are forced with the use of a spring into the firing chamber of a gun.

It is all about the spring.

Look at that, a magazine with no spring:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 393x599]

You sure you've got a handle on what this is all about?

You seriously don't know shiat about firearms.  That isn't a magazine.  That's commonly called a "belt".


So what's the box that the belt is contained in called?
 
2013-03-20 12:38:49 AM  

rohar: lolpix: rohar: lolpix: manimal2878: BGates: I wouldn't hold Websters as an authority on this subject.

Too bad for you that everyone else in the world does.

Dictionaries tend to focus on traditional, common, and popular usage of words. They're not so good with technical terms and jargon.

So you're upset with dictionaries because they're conservative!?

No. I'm not upset about anything at the moment. I'm simply pointing out the dictionary is not the final word among people who know what words mean.

So the conservative definition I wrong, and your new, less traditional definition is right?

/farking liberals...


You think I'm a liberal?
 
2013-03-20 12:39:09 AM  

Brick-House: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x682]


On the off chance you're not trolling, do you not realize the difference between fascism and communism?
 
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