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2013-03-19 11:37:44 PM

NephilimNexus: sbking: If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

Ahem...

"He also said Moore is more than qualified to carry the firearms, as he holds three significant firearms designations, including an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, NRA Certified Range Safety Instructor, and NJ State Certified Firearms Hunting Instructor."

That kid actually understands things like firearm safety, he doesn't have the need to wave his balls in people's faces and he doesn't think he's above the law.  So I'd trust that kid with a gun more than I would trust any overweight skinhead in badge who thinks people's ten pound dogs make for good target practice.


Am I the only one that thinks letting the NRA decide who is qualified to be a gun instructor is about like allowing nambla to certify grade school swim locker changeing room attendants
 
2013-03-19 11:38:03 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: FTFA: After he told them they could not enter, a DYFS representative threatened to take his children. When Moore asked for her name, she refused to give it to him and soon left "empty handed and seeing nothing."

Sounds like she took NO for an answer to me.


Not initially. She threatened to take the kid away, which can strike fear in the heart of any parent.

I had to deal with social services when an asshole pediatrician filed a report about neglect after he examined my 6 month old and found out that he was very underweight. (blowing off the fact that i made the appt with him specifically to address the weight issue.)  SS opened an investigation on me and interviewed my 4 other kids and husband and made me sign a contract promising to follow the doc's instructions to the letter (and prove I was).  the next few months were the most stressful of my life.

My point being that using children as the threat can be a powerful motivator not to fight back. This lady is a first class biatch and I'd relish her identity being leaked to the media.
 
2013-03-19 11:38:16 PM

feckingmorons: Talk about music styles.... anything..... confuse them until we can come up with some other canard.


SARAH PALIN!  PreSIDENT......RON PAUL...Ackkk
 
2013-03-19 11:38:45 PM

BGates: Check out Wiki for the definition I am referring to.


Um, I did.  It said clips are a subset of magazines.  Where the hell are you trying to go with this?
 
2013-03-19 11:39:14 PM

HeadLever: yep.  Source chosen for your specific bent.


Fair enough.  But lets not pretend that I believe it now because it came from huff post and not the blaze.  I believe it now because the first article was bullshiat and showed no semblance of being anything more than being a rehash blog of what was said on some web forum.

The huff article showed evidence that somebody actually did some investigating and tried to find out the trutha and there quotes and names of officials so anyone could follow up themselves if they wanted to and verify the story was accurate.  You know what journalists are supposed to do.
 
2013-03-19 11:39:29 PM

Fart_Machine: All of which only have the one guy's side of the story.


And wich the other side was offered to tell its side and refused.  Something sounds fishy but not from the Parent's side.
 
2013-03-19 11:41:32 PM

rohar: BGates: rohar: feckingmorons: Want to try that image again ace?


Yes, the term magazine has other uses, heck there is a building in Colonial Williamsburg you can tour that is a Powder Magazine (where ammunition was stored until needed). I tried to keep it simple for you distinguishing between a clip and a magazine as used in modern sporting rifles. Yes, there are firearms that are belt fed and hopper fed and even water cooled, but I didn't want to give you too much the first day.

You'll notice the device on the left is intrinsic to loading the cartridge in the chamber.  The device on the right most likely is not.  This is the defining characteristic of the subset of magazines that can be called clips.

I'm starting to think that many, who bring this issue up, have no idea what they're talking about.

Except that the stripper clip that the ammo is loaded on is not intrinsic to the firearm.  It is placed on the top of the firearm and is not used in firing the firearm.  The clip is generally used to speed load the internal magazine of the firearm so that the firearm can be fired.

Assuming the cartridge can be fed to the breach without the "clip" it's not a clip at all, simply a magazine.

Given all of this discussion, I have to ask.  What do you see as the definitive difference between the superset magazine, and the subset clip?


The clip is a tool used to reload the magazine of a firearm.  A magazine is part of the firearm that allows the firearm to discharge.
 
2013-03-19 11:41:33 PM

Frank N Stein: jso2897: You actually think I am black, and serious?

What race are you, if you don't mind me asking?


Human.
 
2013-03-19 11:41:44 PM

cardex: NephilimNexus: sbking: If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

Ahem...

"He also said Moore is more than qualified to carry the firearms, as he holds three significant firearms designations, including an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, NRA Certified Range Safety Instructor, and NJ State Certified Firearms Hunting Instructor."

That kid actually understands things like firearm safety, he doesn't have the need to wave his balls in people's faces and he doesn't think he's above the law.  So I'd trust that kid with a gun more than I would trust any overweight skinhead in badge who thinks people's ten pound dogs make for good target practice.

Am I the only one that thinks letting the NRA decide who is qualified to be a gun instructor is about like allowing nambla to certify grade school swim locker changeing room attendants


Yeah, what could the National Rifle Association possibly know about firearms? Everyone knows they whisper into the ears of children and tell them to murder blacks. Or, now follow me, maybe you're being an asshole for comparing an organization you politically disagree with to a bunch of pedophiles?
 
2013-03-19 11:42:00 PM

manimal2878: But lets not pretend that I believe it now because it came from huff post and not the blaze.


Eveything is through the partisan lense, amiright?

Lol, no wonder why we are quickly going downhill.
 
2013-03-19 11:42:40 PM

jso2897: Frank N Stein: jso2897: You actually think I am black, and serious?

What race are you, if you don't mind me asking?

Human.


*rolls eyes*
 
2013-03-19 11:43:45 PM

cardex: Am I the only one that thinks letting the NRA decide who is qualified to be a gun instructor is about like allowing nambla to certify grade school swim locker changeing room attendants


There are many other fine organizations that offer gun safety, shooting, and hunter safety programs led by their instructors. Most states Department of Natural Resources or their analog have instructors and classes, the military of course certifies instructors, and many local shooting organizations have their own insturctors.

The NRA is the largest organization, I'll grant you that and they offer the most classes from basic gun orientation, to basic handgun, women's self defense - the Don't Be A Victim program - to firearm education for children. The core message in the Eddie Eagle program for children when they encounter a gun in an unsupervised situation is ""If you see a gun, STOP! Don't Touch. Leave the Area. Tell an Adult."

How can you argue with that, and why do you equate the NRA with a group of criminal perverts? You might not like the NRA but they stand for the freedoms that made this country great. The same type of freedom you have that allows you to criticism them and attempt to besmirch their good name.

You belittle only yourself with comments like that.
 
2013-03-19 11:44:22 PM

feckingmorons: jso2897: I've been goofing on an actual retard.

Many people find the term retard offensive.

I'm disappointed an official of the site gave you TF, you don't deserve it as you are classless and vulgar. I hope you go away.


Says the guy who calls himself a " f**king moron"- apparently unaware that the term "moron" is also considered offensive, and, like "retarded", was once an acceptable term for a mentally deficient person.
 
2013-03-19 11:44:46 PM

Tommy Moo: Oh really? Where does the 18 round magazine go in that one?

Why do you people have such a hard time understanding this? Single shot bolt action = hunting. Lots of bullets without having to stop to reload = mass murder.


I don't know about that one, but my .22 is almost identical, and holds 14 rounds in the tube. No magazine. And you aren't exactly going to commit mass murder with a .22LR rifle.

Tommy Moo: OK, then they are both assault rifles, and should both be banned. Satisfied?


And if you think a .22LR rifle is an "assault rifle", you are even more ill-informed than I first thought.
 
2013-03-19 11:44:47 PM

jso2897: Wow. This is actually REAL for you, isn't it?


Well yeah, I mean I've posted facts and basically told the truth so... facts and truth are real enough for me.

If you are trying to prove that palefaces are smart, you best find an example other than yourself.

See the list of scientific, philosophical, musical and literary names of White Oppressors I posted earlier in the thread... as I said before, you wouldn't even have the opportunity to post your anti- White bullsh*t if it weren't for the white men who laid the technological foundation for computing, you parasite. When you think about it, really, it's actually up to you to prove that non- European people have made a significant contribution to Anglo- American civilization rather than vice- versa -- unless you're one of those delusional idiots who believes that our entire civilization was stolen from the black Nubians who flew gliders over the pyramids, in which case you're totally beyond help.
 
2013-03-19 11:45:13 PM

rohar: BGates: Check out Wiki for the definition I am referring to.

Um, I did.  It said clips are a subset of magazines.  Where the hell are you trying to go with this?


Interesting since the word subset isn't found anywhere in the Wiki article.  What it did say is that the clip is used to load the magazine.
 
2013-03-19 11:46:29 PM

HeadLever: Fart_Machine: All of which only have the one guy's side of the story.

And wich the other side was offered to tell its side and refused.  Something sounds fishy but not from the Parent's side.


According to the AP story which is what HP re-printed the Police Chief was contacted late Tuesday so it's doubtful they could have gotten back an answer in time.  I guess we'll have to see.
 
2013-03-19 11:46:33 PM

feckingmorons: cardex: Am I the only one that thinks letting the NRA decide who is qualified to be a gun instructor is about like allowing nambla to certify grade school swim locker changeing room attendants

There are many other fine organizations that offer gun safety, shooting, and hunter safety programs led by their instructors. Most states Department of Natural Resources or their analog have instructors and classes, the military of course certifies instructors, and many local shooting organizations have their own insturctors.

The NRA is the largest organization, I'll grant you that and they offer the most classes from basic gun orientation, to basic handgun, women's self defense - the Don't Be A Victim program - to firearm education for children. The core message in the Eddie Eagle program for children when they encounter a gun in an unsupervised situation is ""If you see a gun, STOP! Don't Touch. Leave the Area. Tell an Adult."

How can you argue with that, and why do you equate the NRA with a group of criminal perverts? You might not like the NRA but they stand for the freedoms that made this country great. The same type of freedom you have that allows you to criticism them and attempt to besmirch their good name.

You belittle only yourself with comments like that.


So, you ARE talking about the same NRA that wanted to ban "Saturday Night Specials" because they were commonly used by the "wrong sort of people", if you know what I mean.
 
2013-03-19 11:46:34 PM

BGates: A magazine is part of the firearm that allows the firearm to discharge.


No, that would be the firing pin. The magazine holds the bullets.

Have you ever actually seen or touched a gun? Go to a gun store they will explain it to you. You'll probably enjoy the sport if you just give it a try with an open mind. Leave wikipedia at home.
 
2013-03-19 11:47:26 PM

GUTSU: cardex: NephilimNexus: sbking: If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

Ahem...

"He also said Moore is more than qualified to carry the firearms, as he holds three significant firearms designations, including an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, NRA Certified Range Safety Instructor, and NJ State Certified Firearms Hunting Instructor."

That kid actually understands things like firearm safety, he doesn't have the need to wave his balls in people's faces and he doesn't think he's above the law.  So I'd trust that kid with a gun more than I would trust any overweight skinhead in badge who thinks people's ten pound dogs make for good target practice.

Am I the only one that thinks letting the NRA decide who is qualified to be a gun instructor is about like allowing nambla to certify grade school swim locker changeing room attendants

Yeah, what could the National Rifle Association possibly know about firearms? Everyone knows they whisper into the ears of children and tell them to murder blacks. Or, now follow me, maybe you're being an asshole for comparing an organization you politically disagree with to a bunch of pedophiles?


What I am saying is that the NRA has taken an extremist view on the subject and may not be the most unbiased group to be doing the certification would you want MADD setting the amount of alcohol in beer or do you think a more neutral 3 party should have the final say
 
2013-03-19 11:47:55 PM

jso2897: feckingmorons: jso2897: I've been goofing on an actual retard.

Many people find the term retard offensive.

I'm disappointed an official of the site gave you TF, you don't deserve it as you are classless and vulgar. I hope you go away.

Says the guy who calls himself a " f**king moron"- apparently unaware that the term "moron" is also considered offensive, and, like "retarded", was once an acceptable term for a mentally deficient person.


In 1840. You'll notice that my user name is plural, it refers to people such as yourself.

Idiot and imbecile were also common terms in the mid 19th century, in fact there was a hierarchy of those terms. You may select whichever you wish for yourself.
 
2013-03-19 11:48:22 PM
Guns:  more important than children.

NRA for ever!
 
2013-03-19 11:49:26 PM

bingo the psych-o: Guns:  more important than children.

NRA for ever!


Cry more.
 
2013-03-19 11:49:53 PM

BGates: rohar: BGates: Check out Wiki for the definition I am referring to.

Um, I did.  It said clips are a subset of magazines.  Where the hell are you trying to go with this?

Interesting since the word subset isn't found anywhere in the Wiki article.  What it did say is that the clip is used to load the magazine.


But a magazine is often times a storage container nowhere near attached to the weapon.

I'm starting to think English is a second language for you.

Bah, let's ignore reality for a moment.  Why is this such a large issue for you?
 
2013-03-19 11:50:30 PM

Fart_Machine: HeadLever: Fart_Machine: All of which only have the one guy's side of the story.

And wich the other side was offered to tell its side and refused.  Something sounds fishy but not from the Parent's side.

According to the AP story which is what HP re-printed the Police Chief was contacted late Tuesday so it's doubtful they could have gotten back an answer in time.  I guess we'll have to see.


No, we all know that police departments don't have PIO's available when important news stories are breaking. Think of it as analagous to the anti-Muslim move and the murder of our ambassador and three others on September 11, 2012. The police chief needs to get his story straight with everyone. There are important details to be concocted.
 
2013-03-19 11:50:39 PM
Well, at least this kid is now prepared to defend himself when he goes and stands in line for a pair of Air Jordans.
 
2013-03-19 11:51:22 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: jso2897: Wow. This is actually REAL for you, isn't it?

Well yeah, I mean I've posted facts and basically told the truth so... facts and truth are real enough for me.

If you are trying to prove that palefaces are smart, you best find an example other than yourself.

See the list of scientific, philosophical, musical and literary names of White Oppressors I posted earlier in the thread... as I said before, you wouldn't even have the opportunity to post your anti- White bullsh*t if it weren't for the white men who laid the technological foundation for computing, you parasite. When you think about it, really, it's actually up to you to prove that non- European people have made a significant contribution to Anglo- American civilization rather than vice- versa -- unless you're one of those delusional idiots who believes that our entire civilization was stolen from the black Nubians who flew gliders over the pyramids, in which case you're totally beyond help.


Apparently, you either can't or don't read, either. I have already stated, at various points in this thread that I am not black, that I am trolling you, and that you are a whiny, victimized idiot for drooling on about how great us honkies are, as if anybody cares. How stupid are you, anyway? How can one even avoid trolling somebody as dumb as you are? You will believe anything, no matter how ridiculous, that allows you to cast yourself as a victim. Grow a pair, Nancy. You are embarrassing the men here.
 
2013-03-19 11:51:24 PM

cardex: What I am saying is that the NRA has taken an extremist view on the subject and may not be the most unbiased group to be doing the certification would you want MADD setting the amount of alcohol in beer or do you think a more neutral 3 party should have the final say


I'm not usually one to defend the NRA but you seem to be confusing certification of firearms safety with writing laws about guns.  THey aren't the same thing.

NRA certification would be like if MADD had a program to teach you to drive safely and gave you a certificate after you completed it, it would have nothing to do setting the amount of alcohol in beer or anything else.
 
2013-03-19 11:52:14 PM

feckingmorons: BGates: A magazine is part of the firearm that allows the firearm to discharge.

No, that would be the firing pin. The magazine holds the bullets.

Have you ever actually seen or touched a gun? Go to a gun store they will explain it to you. You'll probably enjoy the sport if you just give it a try with an open mind. Leave wikipedia at home.


No shiat!

Can you now tell me why an ammo can full of belted ammo is considered a magazine?  I bet you think the rifle wouldn't shoot without it.
 
2013-03-19 11:52:43 PM

noitsnot: Stop being goofy, troll. Blues, Jazz, and Rock all came from black people. Scottish Gaels - what the hell is that supposed to be? Next you'll be saying it was aliens.


Either you're pretending to be ignorant for the sake of sarcasm or you're a close contender for the most ignorant left-liberal on this thread (and God knows, it's already a crowded field). If you genuinely haven't heard of the Scottish Gaels then you have no business commenting on matters to do with the ethnic origin of popular music in the United States -- you can just go back to your Sociology 101 class and the all- purpose explanation for all evils that "it was the white man what done it".
 
2013-03-19 11:52:47 PM
blu.stb.s-msn.com

The kid looks like he's better trained to handle guns than the average nut who feels the need to pose with them.
 
2013-03-19 11:52:57 PM

MrHappyRotter: If we teach our kids to hold big guns and shoot big guns, imagine what other large phallic objects they'll want to fondle and stick in their mouths.  This is a Christian nation, and everybody has the right to own a gun, but as a parent it is your duty to teach your kids to be heterosexual and not have him idolize guns and shooting stuff that might turn him gay.  Furthermore, if you insist on teaching your kid his way around a rifle, you better be sure not to dress him so snappy and fashionable.  You're practically sticking your cock in his mouth.  It's wrong.  It's sick.  It's got to stop.  It's time to support the National Association of Guns and Gun Education and Re-education Society.


I appreciate you.
 
2013-03-19 11:53:03 PM

feckingmorons: No, we all know that police departments don't have PIO's available when important news stories are breaking. Think of it as analagous to the anti-Muslim move and the murder of our ambassador and three others on September 11, 2012.


Yes, that's the perfect analogy.  This is the most important news story ever!  You're a loon.
 
2013-03-19 11:53:12 PM

cardex: GUTSU: cardex: NephilimNexus: sbking: If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

Ahem...

"He also said Moore is more than qualified to carry the firearms, as he holds three significant firearms designations, including an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, NRA Certified Range Safety Instructor, and NJ State Certified Firearms Hunting Instructor."

That kid actually understands things like firearm safety, he doesn't have the need to wave his balls in people's faces and he doesn't think he's above the law.  So I'd trust that kid with a gun more than I would trust any overweight skinhead in badge who thinks people's ten pound dogs make for good target practice.

Am I the only one that thinks letting the NRA decide who is qualified to be a gun instructor is about like allowing nambla to certify grade school swim locker changeing room attendants

Yeah, what could the National Rifle Association possibly know about firearms? Everyone knows they whisper into the ears of children and tell them to murder blacks. Or, now follow me, maybe you're being an asshole for comparing an organization you politically disagree with to a bunch of pedophiles?

What I am saying is that the NRA has taken an extremist view on the subject and may not be the most unbiased group to be doing the certification would you want MADD setting the amount of alcohol in beer or do you think a more neutral 3 party should have the final say


You believe that the NRA would purposely sabotage someone trying to get a certification? Really? Also I wonder why the NRA has taken an "extremist view" it's almost as if a group of people are trying to push massive firearm bans or something!
 
2013-03-19 11:53:29 PM

cardex: would you want MADD setting the amount of alcohol in beer


No, but they sure did a great job of forcing our legislators to lower the prima facie limit of impairment (legally drunk) to .08mg/dl. So, in essence they did change the law.

I think you're confusing things though. Nobody is required to take any courses from the NRA. They are completely optional for everyone. If you want to learn gun safety the NRA is a great place to go.

If you want to learn to paint happy trees Bob Ross is your man (RIP).
 
2013-03-19 11:53:35 PM

jso2897: So, you ARE talking about the same NRA that wanted to ban "Saturday Night Specials" because they were commonly used by the "wrong sort of people", if you know what I mean.


The NRA actually had a hand in sinking Nixon's proposal to ban these weapons.  Just so you know....

That being said, there was some concern about their saftey.
 
2013-03-19 11:54:13 PM

MrHappyRotter: Well, at least this kid is now prepared to defend himself when he goes and stands in line for a pair of Air Jordans.


What and take off those blue/green (urban camo) shoes he has on?
 
2013-03-19 11:54:30 PM

BGates: Can you now tell me why an ammo can full of belted ammo is considered a magazine?


Because that's what we, in the English speaking world, chose to call it.  Kinda the same reason we call you a "man".  Language works that way.
 
2013-03-19 11:54:59 PM

tzzhc4: There isnt a DYFS for the state of New Jersey. The state agency is DCFS though there are county DYFS agencies

Still I call shenanigans on the story. Too many holes and no semi-credible source.


It's a Nutty Raving Asshole. He probably made this story up.
 
2013-03-19 11:55:22 PM

rohar: BGates: rohar: BGates: Check out Wiki for the definition I am referring to.

Um, I did.  It said clips are a subset of magazines.  Where the hell are you trying to go with this?

Interesting since the word subset isn't found anywhere in the Wiki article.  What it did say is that the clip is used to load the magazine.

But a magazine is often times a storage container nowhere near attached to the weapon.

I'm starting to think English is a second language for you.

Bah, let's ignore reality for a moment.  Why is this such a large issue for you?


It's not a large issue for me.

Just funny that you think a clip is a mag and that a can of belted ammo is a mag.  All are different.
 
2013-03-19 11:55:44 PM

Fart_Machine: feckingmorons: No, we all know that police departments don't have PIO's available when important news stories are breaking. Think of it as analagous to the anti-Muslim move and the murder of our ambassador and three others on September 11, 2012.

Yes, that's the perfect analogy.  This is the most important news story ever!  You're a loon.


I used an analogy, not a direct comparison. You're a simpleton.
 
2013-03-19 11:57:16 PM

GUTSU: cardex: GUTSU: cardex: NephilimNexus: sbking: If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

Ahem...

"He also said Moore is more than qualified to carry the firearms, as he holds three significant firearms designations, including an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, NRA Certified Range Safety Instructor, and NJ State Certified Firearms Hunting Instructor."

That kid actually understands things like firearm safety, he doesn't have the need to wave his balls in people's faces and he doesn't think he's above the law.  So I'd trust that kid with a gun more than I would trust any overweight skinhead in badge who thinks people's ten pound dogs make for good target practice.

Am I the only one that thinks letting the NRA decide who is qualified to be a gun instructor is about like allowing nambla to certify grade school swim locker changeing room attendants

Yeah, what could the National Rifle Association possibly know about firearms? Everyone knows they whisper into the ears of children and tell them to murder blacks. Or, now follow me, maybe you're being an asshole for comparing an organization you politically disagree with to a bunch of pedophiles?

What I am saying is that the NRA has taken an extremist view on the subject and may not be the most unbiased group to be doing the certification would you want MADD setting the amount of alcohol in beer or do you think a more neutral 3 party should have the final say

You believe that the NRA would purposely sabotage someone trying to get a certification? Really? Also I wonder why the NRA has taken an "extremist view" it's almost as if a group of people are trying to push massive firearm bans or something!


No I believe that the NRA would never sabotage a certification I think they will give one to anyone who hands them 19.99 + shipping so its not worth the paper it's printed on just like the doctorate in metaphysics I got from the universal life church
 
2013-03-19 11:58:04 PM

BGates: rohar: BGates: rohar: BGates: Check out Wiki for the definition I am referring to.

Um, I did.  It said clips are a subset of magazines.  Where the hell are you trying to go with this?

Interesting since the word subset isn't found anywhere in the Wiki article.  What it did say is that the clip is used to load the magazine.

But a magazine is often times a storage container nowhere near attached to the weapon.

I'm starting to think English is a second language for you.

Bah, let's ignore reality for a moment.  Why is this such a large issue for you?

It's not a large issue for me.

Just funny that you think a clip is a mag and that a can of belted ammo is a mag.  All are different.


Just to be clear, you seem to have a hard time understanding what you're told, a clip is a specialized subset of magazines.  Belt fed ammo is just ammo, the can it's stored in is a magazine.

Predicate logic's a biatch, I know, but it is what it is.  Given your hardship with the English language and Arizona's recent laws, I'm left with no choice:

PAPERS PLEASE!?
 
2013-03-19 11:58:16 PM

BGates: feckingmorons: BGates: A magazine is part of the firearm that allows the firearm to discharge.

No, that would be the firing pin. The magazine holds the bullets.

Have you ever actually seen or touched a gun? Go to a gun store they will explain it to you. You'll probably enjoy the sport if you just give it a try with an open mind. Leave wikipedia at home.

No shiat!

Can you now tell me why an ammo can full of belted ammo is considered a magazine?  I bet you think the rifle wouldn't shoot without it.



I really have no idea what you are on about. If you have a firearm and one round of ammunition you can fire the weapon.

What really are you talking about, it seems as if you're arguing with yourself and you needn't type all those out. Go into a small dark room and talk amongst yourself.
 
2013-03-19 11:58:22 PM

feckingmorons: djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.

I'll buy you a gun if you want. You have to pass the background check, fill out the 4473, and (this is my rule not the government's) take and pass an NRA safety course.


I'll take that deal. There's a sig mosquito at wild west I've had my eye on.
 
2013-03-19 11:58:54 PM

feckingmorons: jso2897: feckingmorons: jso2897: I've been goofing on an actual retard.

Many people find the term retard offensive.

I'm disappointed an official of the site gave you TF, you don't deserve it as you are classless and vulgar. I hope you go away.

Says the guy who calls himself a " f**king moron"- apparently unaware that the term "moron" is also considered offensive, and, like "retarded", was once an acceptable term for a mentally deficient person.

In 1840. You'll notice that my user name is plural, it refers to people such as yourself.

Idiot and imbecile were also common terms in the mid 19th century, in fact there was a hierarchy of those terms. You may select whichever you wish for yourself.


Again - I am just performing a service - helping perpetual victims feel even more victimized. Calling me names is a waste of your time - I am tired of American men who whine and cry like little girls anytime anything inconveniences them. You embarrass me, and I am telling you so. In one way or another, I will continue to do so until you grow up and stop whining and crying all the time.
I don't order people I don't like to go away - the fact that someone disagrees with me on the internet does not rank as a problem in my life. If what I say bothers you that much, you should ask yourself why - it's the element of truth that makes words hurt - bullshiat is easily laughed off.
 
2013-03-19 11:59:27 PM

cardex: No I believe that the NRA would never sabotage a certification I think they will give one to anyone who hands them 19.99 + shipping


You can't actually get them in the mail, there is a didactic and practical component.
 
2013-03-19 11:59:31 PM
cardex:
No I believe that the NRA would never sabotage a certification I think they will give one ...

So the largest organization to provide gun safety for over a hundred years is unqualified because...?
 
2013-03-19 11:59:57 PM

rohar: BGates: Can you now tell me why an ammo can full of belted ammo is considered a magazine?

Because that's what we, in the English speaking world, chose to call it.  Kinda the same reason we call you a "man".  Language works that way.



English is a difficult language.  Words can have many meanings, as in this case.  It's OK if you can't comprehend this, don't let it get you down.
 
2013-03-20 12:00:05 AM

feckingmorons: Fart_Machine: feckingmorons: No, we all know that police departments don't have PIO's available when important news stories are breaking. Think of it as analagous to the anti-Muslim move and the murder of our ambassador and three others on September 11, 2012.

Yes, that's the perfect analogy.  This is the most important news story ever!  You're a loon.

I used an analogy, not a direct comparison. You're a simpleton.


See an analogy would be something comparable.  An international incident involving murder isn't the same as being bothered by CPS.  You farking dipshait.
 
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