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2013-03-19 10:08:02 PM

sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???


My 9 year old owns a gun. And I'm a certified foster parent. So from the very bottom of my heart, Fark you.
 
2013-03-19 10:08:37 PM
Thank you, Dugitman, for the month of free Fark! I will try to do something useful with it - and right now, I am Land-poor an shiat broke for about a year, so it's a luxury I couldn't have justified for myself.
Just don't tell me what I did to "earn" it - there's always a danger I might do it again.
 
2013-03-19 10:10:17 PM

prjindigo: NephilimNexus: sbking: If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

Ahem...

"He also said Moore is more than qualified to carry the firearms, as he holds three significant firearms designations, including an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, NRA Certified Range Safety Instructor, and NJ State Certified Firearms Hunting Instructor."

That kid actually understands things like firearm safety, he doesn't have the need to wave his balls in people's faces and he doesn't think he's above the law.  So I'd trust that kid with a gun more than I would trust any overweight skinhead in badge who thinks people's ten pound dogs make for good target practice.

That technically makes him more qualified than the cop to carry a firearm within city limits.

I think the real funny is that most cops are ONLY allowed to carry their issued pistol with the issued low velocity ammunition.
Its the biggest untold joke of law enforcement.  You can do more damage with a BRICK.
When you hear about these firefights where the cops shoot a hundred rounds and the only person who hit the perp WAS the perp its mostly because firing underpowered rounds makes the guns behave poorly.  Try cheap ammo in an HK MP series weapon, it'll spray shiat all over the place.


The San Jose PD kill somebody about every month (and I'm not really complaining)
 
2013-03-19 10:10:38 PM

willfullyobscure: Next gun thread I'm handicapping to 5 posts max. just to recap, we're good, right? hit all the notes, covered all the bases? White boy in fatigues with a miltary-style rifle, he's a fine young lad, Dad isn't a freak or a prepper at all, go it.  And we're all good with this fine young man, clearly also a target shooter out to plink, I assume?

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Well, who's the young man in the photo? If it's a black adolescent in the States out shooting with his father, who cares? If (as is more likely, since you've bothered to post it) it's a black adolescent in the Congo or Sierra Leone or elsewhere in Africa who's been conscripted into taking part in his country's war then -- guess what pal -- the context is completely different. The only reason you can't see any distinction is because you've been indoctrinated to believe that guns, despite being inanimate objects in themselves, are inherently destructive or evil regardless of how they are used; in other words, you've fallen prey to the mindless emotional hysteria that has governed the gun- control movement since forever (and which has only recently been further exacerbated by Sandy Hook).
 
2013-03-19 10:11:02 PM
I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.
 
2013-03-19 10:11:16 PM

noitsnot: The San Jose PD kill somebody about every month (and I'm not really complaining)


Let's face it - there's too damn many people as it is.
 
2013-03-19 10:11:43 PM

SuperNinjaToad: true but I would hazard a guess that vast majority of Americans don't have a 'family' attorney they have on speed dial.I know for me if a similar situation happens I my have to ask the cops to wait a while I  frantically thumb  through the yellow pages.


That will work. If they ask to come in just say no thank you. If they force their way in we have the Courts for redress. If you have a lawyer already call him, if you don't you can call tomorrow. If some government agent is determined to violate the law there is little you can do (or should do) to stop them. Redress after the fact is quite proper.
 
2013-03-19 10:11:47 PM

cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right


Let me know when someone shoots up a school with a fully automatic assault homosexual.
 
2013-03-19 10:13:14 PM

djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.


You mean the same NRA that wanted to ban "Saturday Night Specials" back in the Seventies, because they were the weapon of choice of you-know-who? THAT NRA?
 
2013-03-19 10:13:35 PM

feckingmorons: NRA life memberships are $700 off during a promotion.

Three hundred bucks for a life membership in the NRA is sweet.


ok seriously.. I kinda like guns and love shooting and I obviously have no issue with the 2nd amendment nor people owning firearms.. eventhough I don not care too much for NRA's politics nor some of the derp LaPierre spews being a member holds me no grudge...so what can someone like me benefit from an NRA membership if any?

/serious
 
2013-03-19 10:13:50 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: fully automatic assault homosexual.


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2013-03-19 10:14:29 PM

real_headhoncho: Why haven't this Social Services agents (SS agents?...) been outed for public ridicule and a good thrashing.

/I'd shoot anyone threatening to take away my kids so they can BS their way into my home.


Yeah, don't go quite that far. Talking to them, as in this case, worked well. Keep it simple, two letter words are easily understood. Use NO a lot.

Can we come in? NO
Can we see your guns? NO
Can we see your gun safe? NO
Can we register your guns? NO
Can we have a cup of coffee? NO
Can we go away angry because you wouldn't let us bully you? Sure, be my guest.
 
2013-03-19 10:15:22 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right

Let me know when someone shoots up a school with a fully automatic assault homosexual.


Fortunately, as far as I know, Peter North doesn't do gay porn. Then we'd have to put up with half a dozen "it shoots through schools" jokes.
 
2013-03-19 10:15:46 PM

jso2897: djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.

You mean the same NRA that wanted to ban "Saturday Night Specials" back in the Seventies, because they were the weapon of choice of you-know-who? THAT NRA?


Obama and his time machine. Again.
 
2013-03-19 10:15:55 PM

djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.


The Youth Shooting Sports Alliance (YSSA) has introduced a new Donated Firearms Program to help support youth shooting programs. If you donate a "previously-owned" firearm, the YSSA will auction the gun on Gunbroker.com. After the gun is sold, the Youth Shooting Sports Alliance, a 501(c)(3) charitable foundation, will provide the donor with a receipt showing the sale value. You can then claim this amount as a charitable deduction on your income taxes. 
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2009/03/help-young-shooters-with -t ax-deductible-gun-donations/
 
2013-03-19 10:16:23 PM
New Jersey, how far you have fallen.  This picture was taken at my Grandfather's house in Robbinsville, NJ, back in 1967:

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I still don't care for that "Roman nose" style stock, though.
 
2013-03-19 10:16:48 PM

feckingmorons: real_headhoncho: Why haven't this Social Services agents (SS agents?...) been outed for public ridicule and a good thrashing.

/I'd shoot anyone threatening to take away my kids so they can BS their way into my home.

Yeah, don't go quite that far. Talking to them, as in this case, worked well. Keep it simple, two letter words are easily understood. Use NO a lot.

Can we come in? NO
Can we see your guns? NO
Can we see your gun safe? NO
Can we register your guns? NO
Can we have a cup of coffee? NO
Can we go away angry because you wouldn't let us bully you? Sure, be my guest.


Yup.
 
2013-03-19 10:17:24 PM

dittybopper: sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???

My 9 year old owns a gun. And I'm a certified foster parent. So from the very bottom of my heart, Fark you.


I'm too lazy to scroll up and find the original post to reply to, so I'm adding on to yours:

Anyone of any age can purchase and own a gun in the US, what's controlled is ammunition: minors cannot legally purchase, or in most states possess, shotgun or rifle ammo below the age of 18 or pistol ammo below 21 without the supervision of an adult.  Most states also restrict the _use_ of said gun or transport of the gun on their person (especially loaded) unsupervised, but actually most don't ban ownership as such.

I'm not sure why people that have surely looked into basic gun control laws since they clearly feel they're informed enough to have an opinion on the subject would not know that.  Maybe they had an fear-stroke when they heard someone pop their gum and are now dealing with the subsequent brain damage or something.
 
2013-03-19 10:17:58 PM

djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.


I'll buy you a gun if you want. You have to pass the background check, fill out the 4473, and (this is my rule not the government's) take and pass an NRA safety course.
 
2013-03-19 10:18:57 PM

jaytkay: War criminal!!
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Terrorists!!
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2nd Amendment hero!!
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Three instances of different people in different parts of the world holding a tool for different purposes and trying to justify them all being the same thing. You're trying too hard.
 
2013-03-19 10:21:07 PM

EvilEgg: Ow! That was my feelings!: sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???

So, an 11 year old holding a .22lr causes you to piss your pants?  Geezus, I have no words.

It's black and has a clip, that's an assault weapon.


So does this...
www.airsoft-gun-info.com

And this...
www.fairchildgiftcompany.com

Even this...
www.airsoftmagic.com

They has full auto capabilities, can fire 100+ rounds, some have clips... are they assault weapons?

/hint: they're -all- BB guns.
 
2013-03-19 10:22:01 PM

super_grass: feckingmorons: jaytkay: BarkingUnicorn: Had they simply showed up to see if there was a kid playing with firearms, OK. But demanding access to a safe with a lie about checking registration that isn't required is into professional misconduct territory.

The miracle was the lawyer on speakerphone. Otherwise, that kid would be in foster care.

The story sounds perfect to impressionable gun nutters.

It's a conservative's wet dream about the ebil gubmint and Obama taking my gunz!!
  And none of it is corroborated. The only source is his crappy blog.

And his lawyer, and the pictures of the police, and many other sites who have spoken to the lawyer and corresponded with the man.

Yet you're seething.

No no no, you just don't get it, do you?

There is a massive Koch-funded conservative NRA media conspiracy (led by Faux Snooz) trying to trick the ignorant gun-toting rednecks into defending the second amendement despite the fact that nobody is trying to take their guns away.

And this is getting in the way of our righteous campaign to pass more gun restrictions and bans.


Heheh you said "massive Koch"
 
2013-03-19 10:22:20 PM

feckingmorons: jaytkay: feckingmorons: jaytkay: And the guy just happened to be on speaker phone with his self-described gun law "expert" lawyer when he arrived home that day.

If you read the article he called his lawyer when his wife said the child protective service and cops where there, and he went immediately home.

I guess you didn't read the article.

Yeah, when if my wife said DFS was at the door, I would totally call the lawyer who has Youtube videos and radio interviews about guns all over Google.

Who I just happened to have on speed dial.

It's almost as if the guy sensed he was about to manufacture an Internet gun outrage from some non-incident.

Eeerie. Some people just have a sixth sense, I guess.

Or a phone that can store phone numbers. I hear they make those these days.

You want so badly for this not to be true you could burst.

Pop!


Right.

Guy with self-proclaimed Internet "gun-law expert" lawyer on speed dial "just happens" to innocently provoke an unconscionable gun search from DFS (or so he claims).

Totally plausible.
 
2013-03-19 10:22:51 PM

willfullyobscure: Next gun thread I'm handicapping to 5 posts max. just to recap, we're good, right? hit all the notes, covered all the bases? White boy in fatigues with a miltary-style rifle, he's a fine young lad, Dad isn't a freak or a prepper at all, go it.  And we're all good with this fine young man, clearly also a target shooter out to plink, I assume?

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You keep trying to mince shiat.

The boy in the article is again, a boy with a hobby. he is not going to be forced to fight before the year is up.

the boy in the photo you just pointed is most likely a child soldier, he will most likely have to fight and die.

Yes, im going by the information I get from the picture, yes its stereotyping, its also based on farking reality. Like it or not, we form stereotypes based on what we know and have been shown. Stereotypes do not arise out of the mist and out of hate. I don't hate or dislike the boy in that picture, I feel sad for him. I really do wish he was getting the equal treatment the boy in the article is, but I am willing to bet he is not.
 
2013-03-19 10:23:13 PM

dittybopper: New Jersey, how far you have fallen.  This picture was taken at my Grandfather's house in Robbinsville, NJ, back in 1967:

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I have a picture (sadly not at hand, or I'd post it) of my father holding me as a baby, while he was wearing his British Army uniform and a semi- automatic rifle slung over his shoulder; doubtless in our more enlightened contemporary world he would have been properly identified as a child abuser, and I would have been saved from his subliminal violence by being placed in the relative bliss of foster care. What a shame that the socialist utopia will arrive too late to undo the psychic damage he caused.
 
2013-03-19 10:23:46 PM

feckingmorons: real_headhoncho: Why haven't this Social Services agents (SS agents?...) been outed for public ridicule and a good thrashing.

/I'd shoot anyone threatening to take away my kids so they can BS their way into my home.

Yeah, don't go quite that far. Talking to them, as in this case, worked well. Keep it simple, two letter words are easily understood. Use NO a lot.

Can we come in? NO
Can we see your guns? NO
Can we see your gun safe? NO
Can we register your guns? NO
Can we have a cup of coffee? NO
Can we go away angry because you wouldn't let us bully you? Sure, be my guest.


Trouble is these farks don't take NO for an answer.  They had COPS with them.  The COPS should have told them to pull their heads out of their asses instead of standing there with their thumbs up theirs.
 
2013-03-19 10:23:54 PM

SuperNinjaToad: feckingmorons: NRA life memberships are $700 off during a promotion.

Three hundred bucks for a life membership in the NRA is sweet.

ok seriously.. I kinda like guns and love shooting and I obviously have no issue with the 2nd amendment nor people owning firearms.. eventhough I don not care too much for NRA's politics nor some of the derp LaPierre spews being a member holds me no grudge...so what can someone like me benefit from an NRA membership if any?

/serious


Good magazines (I get American Rifleman - others are American Hunter or America's First Freedom). 10K worth of gun insurance, discounts at places (you get them with AAA too - motels, car rental that sort of thing) admission to NRA events for free, voting rights for the NRA board, and they lobby our elected representatives to preserve our Second Amendment rights. They don't try to do 12 different things like some organizations, they are a one issue organization that stays on mission and is very effective.

If you don't like their politics you probably wouldn't want to join, but if you like guns and hunting and do join the American Hunter magazine is probably for you, you can switch magazines if you like (ha! an unintended gun joke).
 
2013-03-19 10:23:57 PM

Jim_Callahan: dittybopper: sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???

My 9 year old owns a gun. And I'm a certified foster parent. So from the very bottom of my heart, Fark you.

I'm too lazy to scroll up and find the original post to reply to, so I'm adding on to yours:

Anyone of any age can purchase and own a gun in the US, what's controlled is ammunition: minors cannot legally purchase, or in most states possess, shotgun or rifle ammo below the age of 18 or pistol ammo below 21 without the supervision of an adult.  Most states also restrict the _use_ of said gun or transport of the gun on their person (especially loaded) unsupervised, but actually most don't ban ownership as such.

I'm not sure why people that have surely looked into basic gun control laws since they clearly feel they're informed enough to have an opinion on the subject would not know that.  Maybe they had an fear-stroke when they heard someone pop their gum and are now dealing with the subsequent brain damage or something.


What's the point of adults having guns if children can't? In many cases, adults have already reproduced - and at that point, it's too late.
 
2013-03-19 10:25:11 PM

teeny: IF this story has any truth to it (and that's a pretty big 'if') then it sounds more like the biggest fault is with the nosy, asshole douche that made the initial phone call. We have no way of knowing what information the police and child services were told. It's not like they saw the picture and immediately dispatched.

Dealing with child services can be a real biatch. In my experience, they're incompetent nozzles with a bloated sense of their own power. My guess (based on nothing but this one-sided article) is:

1.douchy asshole person calls police and makes bullshiat claim about child endangerment with a firearm
2. police are dispatched as well as child services.
3. child service agent gets demandy and rude, which escalates when her authority is questioned and they (rightly) refuse to comply.
4. after a bit of a standoff, father/lawyer win the day and agent goes home.
5. father hits the internet with "THEY CUMIN FER OUR GUUUUNS!!!"


I agree with your assessment, but...they really were coming for his guns. Knowing the CPS nuts and today's "take first, leave gun owner to fight for own property back later" attitude, I guarantee no matter how well-built the safe was, how well-stored the keys were, and no matter if everysinglegun has three locks on it that insure you'll be shot by a burglar before you get them all off and gun loaded, it STILL wouldn't be enough for those people BECUZ CHULDRIN.
 
2013-03-19 10:25:43 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Let me know when someone shoots up a school with a fully automatic assault homosexual.


Let me know when you know anything even remotely close to the subject you're talking about
 
2013-03-19 10:26:04 PM

Jim_Callahan: Anyone of any age can purchase and own a gun in the US


That is incorrect.
 
2013-03-19 10:26:51 PM

jaytkay: Guy with self-proclaimed Internet "gun-law expert" lawyer on speed dial "just happens" to innocently provoke an unconscionable gun search from DFS (or so he claims).

Totally plausible.


tinfoilhat.jpg
 
2013-03-19 10:29:17 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right

Let me know when someone shoots up a school with a fully automatic assault homosexual.


Well Floyd Corkins tried to shoot up the Family Research Council while that was not a school he was technically an armed assault homosexual.

What fully automatic weapons were used in school shootings? I don't ever recall a fully automatic weapon being used.
 
2013-03-19 10:29:59 PM

feckingmorons: djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.

I'll buy you a gun if you want. You have to pass the background check, fill out the 4473, and (this is my rule not the government's) take and pass an NRA safety course.


EIP.

As an NRA member registered in the 5th grade and safety course at that time., do I have to do it over?
 
2013-03-19 10:30:06 PM

Frank N Stein: Quantum Apostrophe: Let me know when someone shoots up a school with a fully automatic assault homosexual.

Let me know when you know anything even remotely close to the subject you're talking about


Well, I haven't sucked a cock in a while, that's true.
/It was my own
//Haven't been able to do that since high school
 
2013-03-19 10:31:03 PM

Tom_Slick: I posted pictures and video of my 10 year old nephew skeet shooting and at the rifle range, nobody said a thing.

/He does live in Rural Alabama


Dude, gross.
 
2013-03-19 10:31:22 PM

jaytkay: feckingmorons: jaytkay: feckingmorons: jaytkay: And the guy just happened to be on speaker phone with his self-described gun law "expert" lawyer when he arrived home that day.

If you read the article he called his lawyer when his wife said the child protective service and cops where there, and he went immediately home.

I guess you didn't read the article.

Yeah, when if my wife said DFS was at the door, I would totally call the lawyer who has Youtube videos and radio interviews about guns all over Google.

Who I just happened to have on speed dial.

It's almost as if the guy sensed he was about to manufacture an Internet gun outrage from some non-incident.

Eeerie. Some people just have a sixth sense, I guess.

Or a phone that can store phone numbers. I hear they make those these days.

You want so badly for this not to be true you could burst.

Pop!

Right.

Guy with self-proclaimed Internet "gun-law expert" lawyer on speed dial "just happens" to innocently provoke an unconscionable gun search from DFS (or so he claims).

Totally plausible.


Seems like you're the only one outraged. The rest of us are just amused you are so worked up.
 
2013-03-19 10:32:26 PM

djkutch: feckingmorons: djkutch: I don't understand why the gun folks and NRA don't buy every citizen a gun that can't afford it. Why is that different that any kind of charity?

Put up, or be reasonable.

I'll buy you a gun if you want. You have to pass the background check, fill out the 4473, and (this is my rule not the government's) take and pass an NRA safety course.

EIP.

As an NRA member registered in the 5th grade and safety course at that time., do I have to do it over?


Well the FFL will have to see your certificate. If you can't afford a gun and want one a gun will be appointed to you....EIP.
 
2013-03-19 10:34:27 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Frank N Stein: Quantum Apostrophe: Let me know when someone shoots up a school with a fully automatic assault homosexual.

Let me know when you know anything even remotely close to the subject you're talking about

Well, I haven't sucked a cock in a while, that's true.
/It was my own
//Haven't been able to do that since high school


You should probably go lie down for a while with a cool compress on your forehead, you seem to be in some state.
 
2013-03-19 10:35:04 PM
www.knewance.com
 
2013-03-19 10:37:34 PM

mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]


You sure you've got that right?  You see, a magazine is just a pile of rounds stored or fed in to a breach.  A magazine is mechanically intrinsic to the loading of the breach.  From the picture, it appears you've got it bass ackwards.
 
2013-03-19 10:38:52 PM

feckingmorons: What fully automatic weapons were used in school shootings? I don't ever recall a fully automatic weapon being used.


Some people call semi-autos "automatic". They may even use the terms clip and magazine interchangeably.

So Sarah Palin is President.

And murdering a classroom of first graders is totally cool.

FREEDOM!!
 
2013-03-19 10:40:01 PM

mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]


i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-19 10:40:26 PM

rohar: mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]

You sure you've got that right?  You see, a magazine is just a pile of rounds stored or fed in to a breach.  A magazine is mechanically intrinsic to the loading of the breach.  From the picture, it appears you've got it bass ackwards.


You sure about that?
 
2013-03-19 10:40:36 PM

rohar: mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]

You sure you've got that right?  You see, a magazine is just a pile of rounds stored or fed in to a breach.  A magazine is mechanically intrinsic to the loading of the breach.  From the picture, it appears you've got it bass ackwards.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_%28ammunition%29
 
2013-03-19 10:41:14 PM

feckingmorons: Seems like you're the only one outraged. The rest of us are just amused you are so worked up.


Yep, this story is being spread about the numerous web sites you mentioned because gun nuts are amused.

/ You're not even trying to make sense
 
2013-03-19 10:42:35 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: rohar: mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]

You sure you've got that right?  You see, a magazine is just a pile of rounds stored or fed in to a breach.  A magazine is mechanically intrinsic to the loading of the breach.  From the picture, it appears you've got it bass ackwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_%28ammunition%29


Look at that, you submitted a definition that states a clip is a magazine with no distinguishing characteristics. 

Sorry, I'm suddenly bored with this conversation.
 
2013-03-19 10:43:02 PM

mike_the_engineer: [www.knewance.com image 344x415]


Another magazine

ttag.zippykidcdn.com
 
2013-03-19 10:43:26 PM
jso2897: It's not so much that you can't - it's just - why would you bother? They'll be bred out of existence in a few more years, anyway. Whiteness is a recessive mutation, only useful in an ice age.

To be fair, whiteness was also useful for things like developing modern (i.e., effective) medicine and technology, for abolishing slavery and establishing the concepts of "human rights" and individual freedoms, and for originating the greatest art, music, and literature that humanity has ever known. Genetics determines culture. Doubtless we Whiteys will be missed when we finally arrive at the homogenous coffee- coloured utopia of the future (tho' naturally it'll be represented as the triumph of "diversity" when everybody is exactly the same) -- at least I assume we will be missed, judging by the fact that contemporary mass migration patterns are overwhelmingly in the direction of white- majority countries, and mysteriously never in the direction of the countries of Asia and Africa.

Speaking purely from a scientific perspective, you seem to have fallen into the common trap of believing that every "mutation" is negative, which from a Darwinist perspective is obviously nonsense; without mutations, humanity would not have evolved to begin with. As for "recessive": blonde hair in women is recessive, but does that mean that blondes are less attractive than other women? 19 out of 20 "blonde" women are actually dying their hair, so the answer would appear to be no... in short, if you really care about "diversity", or if you're so keen on preserving the variety in nature that you want to save the polar bear, think about saving Whitey as well.

/and before you bleat "waah wacism"... save your breath, I've heard it all before -- it's the truth, and that's all that matters
 
2013-03-19 10:44:20 PM

jaytkay: feckingmorons: Seems like you're the only one outraged. The rest of us are just amused you are so worked up.

Yep, this story is being spread about the numerous web sites you mentioned because gun nuts are amused.

/ You're not even trying to make sense


Dude - nobody actually thinks that Cletus' little blog tale actually went down the way he said it did, and nobody cares. It's a good story, and this is Fark.com - where it's all about the narrative.
Anyway, you can prove practically anything with facts - facts are a crutch for weak minded people.
Pussy.
 
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