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(Opposing Views)   Father takes pic of 11-year-old son with gun, social services shows up at his door demanding entry into his home and access to guns or else they will "take his kids"   (opposingviews.com) divider line 756
    More: Stupid, Shawn Moore, social services, door demanding, The Blaze, guns  
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2013-03-19 08:08:46 PM  
When some government agency wishes to enter your home uninvited involving your attorney is always the wisest thing to do.
 
2013-03-19 08:11:39 PM  
OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right
 
2013-03-19 08:13:15 PM  
Ok, we have a story posted on a pro second amendment "site"
Any other sources?
 
2013-03-19 08:13:32 PM  
Hmmm I was shooting my dad's 44 magnum at 7 or 8 years old. Glad Facebook didnt exist back then.

Really though, in this day in age with all the psychotics running around at schools, why would you even post this? DYFS was wrong for sure, but the dad wasnt the brightest here either.
 
2013-03-19 08:13:57 PM  

baka-san: Ok, we have a story posted on a pro second amendment "site"
Any other sources?


Yes.

The Blaze.
 
2013-03-19 08:13:58 PM  
molon labe?
 
2013-03-19 08:14:00 PM  
Imagine if he would have had a picture with the constitution!
 
2013-03-19 08:14:19 PM  
Good for him for knowing his rights and keeping a calm head to consult his attorney. A lot of people would have done something stupid and he didn't. I give him credit for that and hope they leave him alone, but chances are his life is going to be hell for some time unfortunately. Once you're on child protective services' radar, it's hard to get off
 
2013-03-19 08:14:24 PM  
"[Triple-licensed gun instructor] father takes pic of [licensed] 11-year old son with hunting rifle..."

I don't see what the problem is.
 
2013-03-19 08:14:25 PM  

cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right


Dammit. I was hoping to see a pink rifle. ;-)
 
2013-03-19 08:14:30 PM  

cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right


Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly
 
2013-03-19 08:15:02 PM  

cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right


You could have just done this.
 
2013-03-19 08:15:07 PM  
"When Moore asked for her name, she refused to give it to him and soon left "

When an unidentified person attempts to gain entry your house it is best to call the cops. The article says the police were there, but I find it less than credible that the government official did not tell the cops her name.
 
2013-03-19 08:15:11 PM  
Yay, training your kid to commit the next Columbine or Sandy Hook. Patriotism!!
 
2013-03-19 08:15:25 PM  
I'm thinking bullshiat:


He ended his post by saying, "People it can happen that fast. Most people wouldn't have stood up to them like I did."

links to the inquisitor and blaze.
 
2013-03-19 08:15:29 PM  
Take the kids?  Take the guns?  I think the government's heads were exploding on trying to decide which rights they wanted to stomp on first.
 
2013-03-19 08:15:31 PM  
We seem to Be headed in this direction
 
2013-03-19 08:16:16 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-19 08:16:42 PM  

Pangit: Hmmm I was shooting my dad's 44 magnum at 7 or 8 years old. Glad Facebook didnt exist back then.

Really though, in this day in age with all the psychotics running around at schools, why would you even post this? DYFS was wrong for sure, but the dad wasnt the brightest here either.


Here in Roanoke, a few years ago we had a front page article in the newspaper about a 6 year old (?) girl who took down a bear (with her father's help). I don't recall CPS (or whatever) getting involved.
 
2013-03-19 08:16:50 PM  
Obama.
 
2013-03-19 08:17:12 PM  
He's right, most people would not have refused entry. Good for him for exercising his rights. Shame on the authorities for bothering him and his family in the first place.
 
2013-03-19 08:17:37 PM  
I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???
 
2013-03-19 08:17:38 PM  
Are we supposed to be outraged?  The story's tag implies so.  What is this father doing posting photos of a minor on Facebook?  That's absolutely grounds for losing custody of his child.  Think of all the molesters out there that might jerk off to that photo and the people that steal kids and then sell stolen kids to people without kids in other countries might be able to use the photos to identify the kid's location and steal him.  It's completely irresponsible and we need to teach these parents a lesson -- post photos of your kids online and you'll lose your kid.  Either the government will take your child, or people that steal kids will take your child.  It's better if the government does it first because at least your kid will go to molesters in the United States rather than molesters in the Ukraine.
 
2013-03-19 08:18:30 PM  

Pangit: Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly


flagg.deratrius.com

You'd be surprised.  Those most targeted for hate crimes are the people who need the most personal defense.
 
ecl
2013-03-19 08:18:55 PM  
This sounds totally legit.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-19 08:19:10 PM  

jaytkay: Yay, training your kid to commit the next Columbine or Sandy Hook. Patriotism!!


Wow. Surprised you didn't go with "become the next Hitler". I mean, if you're going to go with logical stretches, go for the really grandiose ones.
 
2013-03-19 08:19:15 PM  
Oh, it was the gun I was supposed to be outraged about.  I couldn't tell.  Give me a minute longer to channel my fake outrage over the gun.
 
2013-03-19 08:19:50 PM  

Pangit: Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly


Citation please.
 
2013-03-19 08:19:51 PM  

sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???


It's a .22, the kid is
 
2013-03-19 08:20:11 PM  
Do a lot of people have a lawyer on retainer that they can just call up whenever? Especially one that specializes in 2nd amendment cases?
 
2013-03-19 08:20:26 PM  
War criminal!!
www.awsg.us

Terrorists!!
4.bp.blogspot.com

2nd Amendment hero!!
 www.opposingviews.com
 
2013-03-19 08:20:31 PM  
The lesson to be learned:

Don't post pictures on Facebook.
 
2013-03-19 08:20:41 PM  

jaytkay: Yay, training your kid to commit the next Columbine or Sandy Hook. Patriotism!!


That is frankly the most absurd comment I have ever seen on Fark. What do you really mean? Are you in favor of warrantless searches of homes?

Are you so afraid of a licensed hunter that you have to label him as a future mass murderer?

You need to live in reality with the rest of us. Guns are tools, just like you.
 
2013-03-19 08:20:53 PM  

NephilimNexus: Pangit: Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly

[flagg.deratrius.com image 463x250]

You'd be surprised.  Those most targeted for hate crimes are the people who need the most personal defense.


My thinking exactly. You'd think minorities (women as well) would be more interested in personal defense if anything. Gay bashing isn't so fun if they can shoot back.
 
2013-03-19 08:21:26 PM  

sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???


So, an 11 year old holding a .22lr causes you to piss your pants?  Geezus, I have no words.
 
2013-03-19 08:22:07 PM  

NephilimNexus: Pangit: Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly

[flagg.deratrius.com image 463x250]

You'd be surprised.  Those most targeted for hate crimes are the people who need the most personal defense.


news.gunholsters.com

Jeesus cracker hopping Christ!  Somebody actually thought that this was a good idea?
 
ecl
2013-03-19 08:22:10 PM  
Fark: Trollfest2k13
 
2013-03-19 08:22:16 PM  

2xhelix: Pangit: Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly

Citation please.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-19 08:22:29 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???

So, an 11 year old holding a .22lr causes you to piss your pants?  Geezus, I have no words.


It's black and has a clip, that's an assault weapon.
 
2013-03-19 08:22:38 PM  

sbking: If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.


It is a .22 cal rimfire rifle. It is a target shooting gun.

I know it looks scary and should be banned simply because.
 
2013-03-19 08:22:52 PM  

sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???


Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Respect for weapons, and learning how to handle them properly, should be ingrained into a person well before they are of legal age to own one.

What you are suggesting is essentially the anti-gun version of "abstinence only education". And it does not work.

/liberal
 
2013-03-19 08:22:59 PM  

Pangit: cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right

Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly


I don't know- I joined a gun forum for liberals recently and I've found a few on there. No big deal, ain't no thang.
 
spr
2013-03-19 08:23:10 PM  
the "kid" was certified by his home state (New Jersey) as being *trained* to use that firearm for hunting.  he'd passed the state test.     

Molon Labe.
 
2013-03-19 08:23:12 PM  

feckingmorons: You need to live in reality with the rest of us


I am eager to learn how much this guy's story has to do with reality.

It smells worse than Courtney Love's hoo-hah after a three week shower-free crack bender.
 
2013-03-19 08:23:32 PM  
DFS was the TSA before the TSA was the TSA.
 
2013-03-19 08:23:42 PM  

EvilEgg: The article says the police were there, but I find it less than credible that the government official did not tell the cops her name.


I assume the police knew who she was, but that none of them would tell the parents.

In California, it's common for Officers to cover their badge numbers and name tapes with black tape.  I'm not surprised that civilians are getting in on the same anonymity action.
 
2013-03-19 08:23:54 PM  
There isnt a DYFS for the state of New Jersey. The state agency is DCFS though there are county DYFS agencies

Still I call shenanigans on the story. Too many holes and no semi-credible source.
 
2013-03-19 08:23:56 PM  

clowncar on fire: NephilimNexus: Pangit: Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly

[flagg.deratrius.com image 463x250]

You'd be surprised.  Those most targeted for hate crimes are the people who need the most personal defense.

[news.gunholsters.com image 850x637]

Jeesus cracker hopping Christ!  Somebody actually thought that this was a good idea?


That's not a good idea, that's an AWESOME idea.
Too bad it won't fit in my daughter's backpack :(
 
2013-03-19 08:24:11 PM  

Pangit: cman: OMG A GUN!
OMG A GAY!

Only two different letters and yet they cause most of the fear on the left and the right

Gays mostly dont like Guns.

/mostly


Seems the Jews could teach them something.
 
2013-03-19 08:24:22 PM  

sbking: I am not antigun and i believe in the 2nd amendment BUT COME ON...

If those parents let that kid, who is not even a teenager, hold that gun then they have no business being parents.  Foster homes are bad but they would be not cause as much damage to the kid as that home and they would probably save another mass shooting down the road.

I know, i know: guns don't kill people: bla, bla, bla.  How would you feel if he was holding a bottle of bourbon (legal)???


Father and son hunting is very traditional. Plus a father teaching a son how to shoot other guns is also traditional.

Not as well practiced as it once was, but still, taking something like that away as a potential Father/Son bonding time is a bit stupid.
 
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