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2013-03-19 08:25:16 PM
The silver lining here?  It's a lot easier to fit your boot up someone's ass when you use your arms for the extra 3 feet or so of reach.
 
2013-03-19 08:26:25 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Bwahaha: But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.

They won.
Osama won.


Well, Israel is still supported by us and there are still troops in Saudi Arabia, plus that prick is dead.

I can certainly say that Osama most definitely lost
 
2013-03-19 08:27:10 PM

Bwahaha: Yes, soldiers are people too. But is it too much to ask to have a little sense used in the airport screening system? They said that they had to confiscate my Zippo. I asked why. They couldn't give a reason why. I asked them if they were afraid that I might catch the goddamn plane on fire with a cigarette lighter, and they sent me to secondary screening.  So, then it was a choice between making more of a fuss over them stealing my Zippo, and missing the plane, or letting them steal the lighter and carry on.
To my embarrassment, I put my shoes back on, did up my belt, and sheepishly made my way on board. So, yes, soldiers are people too. And I was a soldier. But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.


I havent flown since 2007 (though I used to fly a lot for work).  Even back then I knew to take off my shoes, not carry any liquids, blades (razors) etc.  I remember a couple of times having to let some pizza box employee feel me up.  It blew and apparently 6 years later it still does. I wasnt a soldier, and you are right, The terrorists won considering how things are handled on airlines (and proposed other forms of transit) since 9/11.
 
2013-03-19 08:29:44 PM
What are you biatching about? It makes me feel safer and, in the end, feelings are what really matter.
 
2013-03-19 08:31:39 PM
Stopped reading at "Arizona"

www.sixtharmygroup.com
 
2013-03-19 08:31:41 PM
Sky Harbor...of course.
 
2013-03-19 08:32:06 PM

Bwahaha: Yes, soldiers are people too. But is it too much to ask to have a little sense used in the airport screening system? They said that they had to confiscate my Zippo. I asked why. They couldn't give a reason why. I asked them if they were afraid that I might catch the goddamn plane on fire with a cigarette lighter, and they sent me to secondary screening.  So, then it was a choice between making more of a fuss over them stealing my Zippo, and missing the plane, or letting them steal the lighter and carry on.
To my embarrassment, I put my shoes back on, did up my belt, and sheepishly made my way on board. So, yes, soldiers are people too. And I was a soldier. But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.


You too huh?
Flying back on a chartered flight from a year in Djibouti.  I had gotten a zippo done up at a jeweler's in Bahrain with 'fark TERRORISM" engraved on one side (a nod to John Wayne's 'fark communism' zippos he handed out to troops in Vietnam) and a eagle, globe, and anchor made from two hundred dollars of white old bolted on the other.

The first security guy wanted me to hand over the lighter.  I managed to convince him to just take the guys - the gauze stuff, the striker, etc - but let me keep the casing.  The guy in Virginia where I switched over to commericial wanted to take even that.  Apparently, a two inch hinged box made of stainless steel and gold was a deadly weapon.  Having paid so much for it, I did not bend and let the guy steal it from me.  That farker was going home if I had to store it in the rear hold along with Bruce Willis's father's watch.
 
2013-03-19 08:36:28 PM

Igor Jakovsky: Bwahaha: Yes, soldiers are people too. But is it too much to ask to have a little sense used in the airport screening system? They said that they had to confiscate my Zippo. I asked why. They couldn't give a reason why. I asked them if they were afraid that I might catch the goddamn plane on fire with a cigarette lighter, and they sent me to secondary screening.  So, then it was a choice between making more of a fuss over them stealing my Zippo, and missing the plane, or letting them steal the lighter and carry on.
To my embarrassment, I put my shoes back on, did up my belt, and sheepishly made my way on board. So, yes, soldiers are people too. And I was a soldier. But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.

I havent flown since 2007 (though I used to fly a lot for work).  Even back then I knew to take off my shoes, not carry any liquids, blades (razors) etc.  I remember a couple of times having to let some pizza box employee feel me up.  It blew and apparently 6 years later it still does. I wasnt a soldier, and you are right, The terrorists won considering how things are handled on airlines (and proposed other forms of transit) since 9/11.


The terrorists won because we've spent trillions of dollars in wasteful, unnecessary situations out of fear and opportunism.  Not because we have to take our shoes off.

Seriously.  That's not a big deal.
 
2013-03-19 08:36:59 PM

strangeluck: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x224]
Not saying what the TSA did was right, but to be fair, his legs could have been loaded.


You're a bad person and you should feel bad for stealing my post.
 
2013-03-19 08:37:15 PM

waffle299: Sky Harbor...of course.


It's ironic that the home state of the Secretary of Homeland Security has the most embarrassing TSA gaffes.
 
2013-03-19 08:37:39 PM

cman: Zarquon's Flat Tire: cman: Soldiers are people, too.

They have the same amount of risk as the mean folk when it comes to violence.

DTA: Dont Trust Anyone

Must be tough to choose between a do nothing government agency whose sole reason for existence is to give illusion of safety and a wounded veteran. Typical lib.

Well at least you didnt call me a Republican, unlike the "typical libs" do.

/There are more than 2 parties and 2 ideologies, folks


Yeah I'm not very good at trolling. Mainly I lack the dedication.
 
2013-03-19 08:38:43 PM
Elzar:
// A Romney administration would have disbanded it by now

stupid obama starting up the TSA!
 
2013-03-19 08:41:30 PM
I think it has been reported that the TSA is a dead end job filled with bottom of the barrel types.  I can't say I am too surprised by anything I have read in this thread.
 
2013-03-19 08:45:32 PM

MattyFridays: I've said this before, and I will say it again:

Staff TSA with returning military personnel.  They follow rules to the letter, they know what real terrorists look like, and they carry a real authority people can respect compared to less-than-rent-a-cops that TSA is.

That said, being a better informed consumer when going through TSA checkpoints is your best bet to handle these goons.  KNOW your rights.  Exercise them.  And film, film, film.


This!!!! Such a good idea. Its hard for a lot of them to find div jobs.
 
2013-03-19 08:49:44 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Gyrfalcon: Really, it's horrible, but the simple fact is, somebody can think of a reason why we have to have the TSA do this, and things will proceed as they have been since 9/11. The sentence will start like this: "It is terrible that an active-duty soldier could be treated like this...BUT..." and anything said after the word "but" will be reason enough to maintain the status quo, even if it's "He might pull out his robe and wizard hat from his hollow wooden legs and transform the airplane into a dragon."

We have the TSA because of civil liabilities for the airlines. The federal government bailed the airlines out after 9-11. Too bad the airlines didn't install hardened cockpits before the attacks.

The airlines got bailed out, the civil liabilities for future attacks are covered by the federal government now. Everybody wins. Except for disable Marines and millions of other travelers.

/A ticket agent almost stopped two of the hijackers for irregularities on their paperwork. Didn't want to get sued. /That's why have the TSA now.


[shrug] The airlines didn't install hardened cockpits before 9/11 because they had no reason to. The mindset hadn't progressed past the hijackings of the 70's and 80's. As to your ticket agent who didn't want to get sued, that's irrelevant to why the TSA exists. TSA does not exist to prevent lawsuits. The TSA is a federal agency, and they could do their job 110% and the plane could get hijacked anyway and you could still sue Southwest if you wanted to for whatever reason your attorney could think of.

TSA is there because people are afraid and think that somehow taking of our shoes and belts at a "security gate" will prevent a terrorist from taking down a plane. Nobody wants to realize that the only thing that needed to change was the mindset of how and why planes were being hijacked. After 9/11 people were demanding the government keep knives off the planes in the same way and for the same reason people are demanding we keep gunz out of schools today. The government could have calmed everyone down, but chose not to. So we have the TSA today. The airlines did the sensible thing which was lock the cockpit doors. But it has very little do with fears of lawsuits.
 
2013-03-19 08:50:20 PM

Dafatone: Igor Jakovsky: Bwahaha: Yes, soldiers are people too. But is it too much to ask to have a little sense used in the airport screening system? They said that they had to confiscate my Zippo. I asked why. They couldn't give a reason why. I asked them if they were afraid that I might catch the goddamn plane on fire with a cigarette lighter, and they sent me to secondary screening.  So, then it was a choice between making more of a fuss over them stealing my Zippo, and missing the plane, or letting them steal the lighter and carry on.
To my embarrassment, I put my shoes back on, did up my belt, and sheepishly made my way on board. So, yes, soldiers are people too. And I was a soldier. But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.

I havent flown since 2007 (though I used to fly a lot for work).  Even back then I knew to take off my shoes, not carry any liquids, blades (razors) etc.  I remember a couple of times having to let some pizza box employee feel me up.  It blew and apparently 6 years later it still does. I wasnt a soldier, and you are right, The terrorists won considering how things are handled on airlines (and proposed other forms of transit) since 9/11.

The terrorists won because we've spent trillions of dollars in wasteful, unnecessary situations out of fear and opportunism.  Not because we have to take our shoes off.

Seriously.  That's not a big deal.


The shoes didn't come off until after the shoe bomber.  Maybe we all should have to drop our drawers after the underwear bomber.  My point was more toward after 9/11 it wasn't the TSA that stopped a terrorist from bringing a plane down, it was the other passengers.  Whether or not our forays into foreign lands had any merit, well that has been debated for the last 10 years.  What has the TSA really accomplished?
 
2013-03-19 08:50:22 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: On his way to a Spring Training game. Not in uniform. Just another citizen at that point.

I dislike the TSA as much as thr next Farker, but this is much ado about absolutely nothing.


He made have not been in uniform, but he was on active duty and carrying his military identification.
 
2013-03-19 08:55:09 PM

Igor Jakovsky: Dafatone: Igor Jakovsky: Bwahaha: Yes, soldiers are people too. But is it too much to ask to have a little sense used in the airport screening system? They said that they had to confiscate my Zippo. I asked why. They couldn't give a reason why. I asked them if they were afraid that I might catch the goddamn plane on fire with a cigarette lighter, and they sent me to secondary screening.  So, then it was a choice between making more of a fuss over them stealing my Zippo, and missing the plane, or letting them steal the lighter and carry on.
To my embarrassment, I put my shoes back on, did up my belt, and sheepishly made my way on board. So, yes, soldiers are people too. And I was a soldier. But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.

I havent flown since 2007 (though I used to fly a lot for work).  Even back then I knew to take off my shoes, not carry any liquids, blades (razors) etc.  I remember a couple of times having to let some pizza box employee feel me up.  It blew and apparently 6 years later it still does. I wasnt a soldier, and you are right, The terrorists won considering how things are handled on airlines (and proposed other forms of transit) since 9/11.

The terrorists won because we've spent trillions of dollars in wasteful, unnecessary situations out of fear and opportunism.  Not because we have to take our shoes off.

Seriously.  That's not a big deal.

The shoes didn't come off until after the shoe bomber.  Maybe we all should have to drop our drawers after the underwear bomber.  My point was more toward after 9/11 it wasn't the TSA that stopped a terrorist from bringing a plane down, it was the other passengers.  Whether or not our forays into foreign lands had any merit, well that has been debated for the last 10 years.  What has the TSA really accomplished?


Not really a ton, and whether they need to be there is certainly debatable.  But I think it's pretty dumb to hear "OMG our freedoms are gone!" because we have to get our shoes searched to fly on a plane.  There are many, many bigger issues.
 
2013-03-19 08:59:35 PM

Gergesa: I think it has been reported that the TSA is a dead end job filled with bottom of the barrel types.  I can't say I am too surprised by anything I have read in this thread.


They were recruiting off pizza boxes

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-19 09:00:39 PM
maybe they would be ok with him carrying a knife...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-19 09:04:04 PM
Did the TSA Agents kick his stubs while the prosthetics were off??

Assholes
 
2013-03-19 09:05:08 PM

Ambivalence: From Philly to Boston: And nothing happens. We all cry and gnash our teeth and do nothing.

Eventually some republican lawmaker's kid will be affected then all hell will break loose.


They have charted private jets.  They don't need to wait in line with the proles.
 
2013-03-19 09:05:13 PM

Dafatone: Igor Jakovsky: Dafatone: Igor Jakovsky: Bwahaha: Yes, soldiers are people too. But is it too much to ask to have a little sense used in the airport screening system? They said that they had to confiscate my Zippo. I asked why. They couldn't give a reason why. I asked them if they were afraid that I might catch the goddamn plane on fire with a cigarette lighter, and they sent me to secondary screening.  So, then it was a choice between making more of a fuss over them stealing my Zippo, and missing the plane, or letting them steal the lighter and carry on.
To my embarrassment, I put my shoes back on, did up my belt, and sheepishly made my way on board. So, yes, soldiers are people too. And I was a soldier. But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.

I havent flown since 2007 (though I used to fly a lot for work).  Even back then I knew to take off my shoes, not carry any liquids, blades (razors) etc.  I remember a couple of times having to let some pizza box employee feel me up.  It blew and apparently 6 years later it still does. I wasnt a soldier, and you are right, The terrorists won considering how things are handled on airlines (and proposed other forms of transit) since 9/11.

The terrorists won because we've spent trillions of dollars in wasteful, unnecessary situations out of fear and opportunism.  Not because we have to take our shoes off.

Seriously.  That's not a big deal.

The shoes didn't come off until after the shoe bomber.  Maybe we all should have to drop our drawers after the underwear bomber.  My point was more toward after 9/11 it wasn't the TSA that stopped a terrorist from bringing a plane down, it was the other passengers.  Whether or not our forays into foreign lands had any merit, well that has been debated for the last 10 years.  What has the TSA really accomplished?

Not really a ton, and whether they need to be there is certainly debatable.  But I think it's pretty dumb to hear "OMG our freedoms are ...


It is all a symptom of the same problem, that which is ongoing.
 
2013-03-19 09:07:53 PM
Sky Harbor TSA are the ones who tried to confiscate Marine WWII ace, Joe Foss' Medal of Honor. They thought it was some kind of fancy throwing star.

"I wasn't upset for me," he said. "I was upset for the Medal of Honor, that they just didn't know what it even was. It represents all of the guys who lost their lives - the guys who never came back. Everyone who put their lives on the line for their country. You're supposed to know what the Medal of Honor is."

Joe Foss may be the most famous person you never heard of:

He had 26 confirmed kills, most in the Pacific War.

He received the aforementioned Medal of Honor.

He achieved the rank of Brigadier General.

He was elected Governor of South Dakota.

He was the first Commissioner of the American Football League.

He was elected President of the National Rifle Association twice.

He hosted "The American Sportsman" and "The Outdoorsman" on national television, for 10 years.

He was also the brother of my first newspaper publisher (who was an amazing person himself).
 
2013-03-19 09:09:14 PM
Except that the TSA says that it will not make travelers review prostheses:

http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/passengers-prosthetics

Passengers with prostheses can be screened without removing them. The way screening will be conducted depends on the passenger's level of ability and whether or not he or she voluntarily chooses to remove his or her prosthetic during screening.

The passenger should inform the Transportation Security Officer (TSO) of the existence of a prosthetic, his or her ability, and of any need for assistance before screening begins. Passengers can use TSA's Notification Card to communicate discreetly with security officers. However, showing this card or other medical documentation will not exempt a passenger from additional screening when necessary.
Passengers with prostheses can be screened using imaging technology, metal detector, or a thorough patdown.
Regardless of whether a passenger is screened by a metal detector, imaging technology, or a thorough patdown, a prosthetic is subject to additional screening. An officer will need to see the prosthetic, which may require the lifting of clothing without exposing any sensitive areas or removing a belt that holds the prosthetic to the passenger's body. TSA also will use technology to test the prosthetic for traces of explosive material. If explosive material is detected, the passenger will have to undergo additional screening. If a passenger voluntarily removes his or her prosthetic during screening, it will be screened by X-ray.
Cast and Prosthesis imaging technology is used in some airports. Where available, this technology will also be used to inspect a prosthesis.
Passengers can request an alternate but equivalent level of screening in lieu of screening by Cast and Prosthesis imaging.

/Bash the TSA all you want
//The terrorists did not win by forcing travelers to deal with the TSA.  The terrorists want to kill us, destroy property, and cause us, well, terror.  They don't give a fark about causing us inconvenience at the airport.
 
2013-03-19 09:09:26 PM
And he followed orders, because he's a good soldier that follows orders.
 
m00
2013-03-19 09:10:04 PM
www.smbc-comics.com
 
2013-03-19 09:36:46 PM
Fark headline: "Injured Marine on active duty ordered to remove artificial legs at airport security checkpoint"

Article headline: "Video doesn't show Marine was ordered to remove artificial legs"

/Confused
 
2013-03-19 09:45:35 PM

IkonOlator: /Bash the TSA all you want
//The terrorists did not win by forcing travelers to deal with the TSA. The terrorists want to kill us, destroy property, and cause us, well, terror. They don't give a fark about causing us inconvenience at the airport.


Not to disagree with you, but the purpose of terrorism is rarely to kill and destroy. The purpose of terrorism is, as some experts have stated:

By distinguishing terrorists from other types of criminals and terrorism from other forms of crime, we come to appreciate that terrorism is :

political in aims and motives
violent - or, equally important, threatens violence
designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the immediate victim or target
(Source: Wikipedia, citing Bruce Hoffman)

The important part of "terrorism" is not that the victims or target remain in a state of "terror"--which is hard to maintain, after all--but that they alter their habits or politics after the initial act of terrorism. Saying "The terrorists have won" doesn't mean we remain in a state of terror but that we have altered our patterns of behavior to accommodate what the terrorists did EVEN AFTER the terroristic act has passed.

So al-Qaeda, by killing just over 3000 people, altered the behavior of over 300 million Americans without ever harming another American on US soil. They didn't have to kill us or destroy any more property to "terrorize" us, but the did have far-reaching psychological repercussions, don't you think? I'd say they pretty well achieved their goals on that day, and never had to spend another moment in America again. Of course, they lost in the long run; but that was a strategic failure, not a tactical one. But tactically, terrorism is seldom about killing large numbers of people; it's about forcing your target to do what you want him to do so you can exploit the change in behavior (or not).
 
m00
2013-03-19 09:53:28 PM

Gyrfalcon: The important part of "terrorism" is not that the victims or target remain in a state of "terror"--which is hard to maintain, after all--but that they alter their habits or politics after the initial act of terrorism. Saying "The terrorists have won" doesn't mean we remain in a state of terror but that we have altered our patterns of behavior to accommodate what the terrorists did EVEN AFTER the terroristic act has passed.

So al-Qaeda, by killing just over 3000 people, altered the behavior of over 300 million Americans without ever harming another American on US soil. They didn't have to kill us or destroy any more property to "terrorize" us, but the did have far-reaching psychological repercussions, don't you think? I'd say they pretty well achieved their goals on that day, and never had to spend another moment in America again. Of course, they lost in the long run; but that was a strategic failure, not a tactical one. But tactically, terrorism is seldom about killing large numbers of people; it's about forcing your target to do what you want him to do so you can exploit the change in behavior (or not).


Yeah.. I'm just waiting for the "vagina bomber" TSA will have a field day.
 
2013-03-19 10:28:56 PM

Watubi: Fark headline: "Injured Marine on active duty ordered to remove artificial legs at airport security checkpoint"

Article headline: "Video doesn't show Marine was ordered to remove artificial legs"

/Confused


this
 
2013-03-19 10:31:10 PM

Gyrfalcon: Really, it's horrible, but the simple fact is, somebody can think of a reason why we have to have the TSA do this, and things will proceed as they have been since 9/11. The sentence will start like this: "It is terrible that an active-duty soldier could be treated like this...BUT..." and anything said after the word "but" will be reason enough to maintain the status quo, even if it's "He might pull out his robe and wizard hat from his hollow wooden legs and transform the airplane into a dragon."


Or "It is terrible than an active duty soldier could be treated like this... BUT Do you have ANY idea how much money the Fear Industry (tm) generates for my campaign coffers?"
 
2013-03-19 10:33:40 PM

Elzar: A Romney administration would have disbanded it by now


LOL
 
2013-03-19 10:41:39 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Bwahaha: But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.

They won.
Osama won.


Correct.
 
2013-03-19 10:50:28 PM
Stopped reading after I saw the TSA "officer" ordered him to remove the leg.

These are $8/hr, failures in life, that got the lowest federal job because the job on the box top, on the pizza lid, is cheaper than paying them unemployment.

And they will send you to prison if you don't watch your child get fondled, looking for a IED in their spiderman undies.

This is the FreedomTM that makes this country great!
 
2013-03-19 11:23:22 PM

m00: [www.smbc-comics.com image 325x1500]

www.smbc-comics.com


OK FITABUS, should be the new UFIA
 
2013-03-19 11:27:29 PM
No ex-servicemember would ever commit a terrorist act.

Right, Tim?
www.historyguy.com
 
2013-03-19 11:34:06 PM
Monday, Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Republican, wrote to TSA Administrator John Pistole, demanding an explanation. "The Marine, whose prosthetics were exposed, was humiliated, according to accounts," Hunter said in the letter.
"Preliminary review of (closed-circuit television footage) indicates there was no removal of prosthetic limbs," the TSA said a statement to The Arizona Republic.
The two screeners were veterans themselves, the TSA said. One is a Marine, the other served in the Air Force 18 years.
The passenger was in a wheelchair carrying his military identification. Witnesses told Hunter's office the ordeal dragged on for at least 10 minutes.


So about 20 minutes less than the rest of us spend in the security line.

Those accounts came from a man accompanying five San Diego area Marines to a spring-training games as part of a volunteer effort to help wounded veterans with their recovery, Duncan's spokesman Joe Kasper said. None of the Marines, who were not in uniform at the time, have spoken about the incident, he added.
TSA and Sky Harbor officials said they had not received a formal complaint.
"We have no record of an email from anyone who says he or she was involved in, or witnessed the incident described in the letter," airport spokeswoman Julie Rodriguez said.
Added TSA spokesman Nico Melendez. "Right now it's a letter from a congressman. We've not seen the letter."


upload.wikimedia.org

This is heroic warrior-genius who also warned us (despite his carefully-scrubbed Wikipedia page) that repealing DADT would allow "hermaphrodites and transgenders" to serve in our military, which would of course be contrary to our holy Savior's wishes.
 
2013-03-19 11:34:25 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Bwahaha: But we have lost more than we might be willing to admit since 911. A heck of a lot.

They won.
Osama won.


I think it would be more accurate to say that everybody lost. Osama's real goals are just as far from being accomplished as ever, and his particular brand of Islamism has little appeal these days in most of the Muslim world.
 
2013-03-19 11:37:22 PM

Elzar: / Seriously though - fark the TSA
// A Romney administration would have disbanded it by now


For your mental health I hope that's the joke.

/can't tell, Poe's Law and all
 
2013-03-19 11:51:32 PM

IkonOlator: //The terrorists did not win by forcing travelers to deal with the TSA.  The terrorists want to kill us, destroy property, and cause us, well, terror.  They don't give a fark about causing us inconvenience at the airport.


Actually they did.  The definition of terrorism is rather contentious, but it usually uses "violence,  or the threat of violence, used for a variety of purposes."  Having overly intrusive security measures is a terrorist sucess because it forces our society to react out of fear of an attack.

Every time I have to remove my shoes to get screened, or have my groin felt up to make sure I am not wearing explosive boxers, I am reminded of the terrorist attack attempts that used those methods.  Terrorism or insurgency is not strictly about killing, it is about hearts and minds.  If a terrorist organization can discredit a government through forcing reactionary or opressive measures, they are severely weakening that government.

What bothers me about the TSA is that at all the various airports I have visited, there are "trusted traveler" or speedpass, or whatever the hell they are currently calling the fast lane through security.  Basic security practices demand that we treat everyone the same.  Our security is only as good as the lowest common level of screening.

If we as society think that our practices are too intrusive, we should relax them for all of society.  What we should not do, is make it so that the most influential segments of society do not have to comply.  I am not entirely sure, but I have a feeling there are any number of dissafected, rich, university educated types that could pass the means test to recieve preferential treatment.  Earlier in his career, I bet OBL could have been one of them, and if he was not, one of his siblings probably could.

/Job hunting vet
//Have seen a lot of tsa positions...
///...no
 
2013-03-19 11:57:12 PM

BuckTurgidson: Monday, Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Republican, wrote to TSA Administrator John Pistole, demanding an explanation. "The Marine, whose prosthetics were exposed, was humiliated, according to accounts," Hunter said in the letter.
"Preliminary review of (closed-circuit television footage) indicates there was no removal of prosthetic limbs," the TSA said a statement to The Arizona Republic.
The two screeners were veterans themselves, the TSA said. One is a Marine, the other served in the Air Force 18 years.
The passenger was in a wheelchair carrying his military identification. Witnesses told Hunter's office the ordeal dragged on for at least 10 minutes.

So about 20 minutes less than the rest of us spend in the security line.

Those accounts came from a man accompanying five San Diego area Marines to a spring-training games as part of a volunteer effort to help wounded veterans with their recovery, Duncan's spokesman Joe Kasper said. None of the Marines, who were not in uniform at the time, have spoken about the incident, he added.
TSA and Sky Harbor officials said they had not received a formal complaint.
"We have no record of an email from anyone who says he or she was involved in, or witnessed the incident described in the letter," airport spokeswoman Julie Rodriguez said.
Added TSA spokesman Nico Melendez. "Right now it's a letter from a congressman. We've not seen the letter."

[upload.wikimedia.org image 315x385]

This is heroic warrior-genius who also warned us (despite his carefully-scrubbed Wikipedia page) that repealing DADT would allow "hermaphrodites and transgenders" to serve in our military, which would of course be contrary to our holy Savior's wishes.


That is a face that needs to get smashed in with a frying pan at the earliest opportunity.
 
2013-03-19 11:59:51 PM

Ambivalence: From Philly to Boston: And nothing happens. We all cry and gnash our teeth and do nothing.

Eventually some republican lawmaker's kid will be affected then all hell will break loose.


Both Rand Paul and his drunken kid have been harassed by TSA...after a day of whining Paul went back to worrying about his light bulbs.
 
2013-03-20 12:04:25 AM
1) given that even former US military sorts have been converting to Islam and joining the "enemy", they have a valid reason for searching.

2) stop crying and do something; ie: stop flying. When unions feel their members are being treated unfairly, they protest by going on strike and denying services, and thus possibly revenue for the business. This can also be applied to most aspects of our 1st world lives: Don't like your class- stop going till change occurs; don't like your government- stop voting until they get the point; don't like how the TSA abuses you- stop flying.

No matter what though, subby, you need to stop farking crying you wet nap titty baby.
 
2013-03-20 12:18:33 AM

From Philly to Boston: And nothing happens. We all cry and gnash our teeth and do nothing.


Because overblown terrorist threat, or something...


/the USA didn't wet their pants like this when there was an actual enemy that could destroy the country in 30 minutes, not a loose collection of small terrorist cells that get lucky once every 10 years or so.
 
2013-03-20 12:28:35 AM
Flying isn't a right, it's a privilege
 
2013-03-20 02:43:11 AM

Ego edo infantia cattus: Now you just have to fark your half sister and the anti-Christ will be born.


If Charlize were my half-sister, there would be a lot of anti-Christs out there.
 
2013-03-20 03:47:11 AM

The Repeated Meme: Flying isn't a right, it's a privilege


Entering into contracts for any lawful purpose isn't a right? Since when?
 
2013-03-20 04:15:41 AM
Eh, it's a shame we long ago gave away the freedoms soldiers are supposedly fighting for.

Why, now, it's almost like they're just fighting because big corporations and stupid politicians demand it!
 
2013-03-20 04:59:56 AM
He's contacted an attorney and considering a lawsuit. However, the lawyer stated that he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
 
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