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(Phoenix New Times)   Arizona wants to go full "Where birth certifcit whe" on anyone who uses a public restroom   (blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com) divider line 160
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2013-03-19 04:45:16 PM
Kavanagh's strike-everything amendment to Senate Bill 1432, which proposes the following:

B. A PERSON COMMITS DISORDERLY CONDUCT IF THE PERSON INTENTIONALLY ENTERS A PUBLIC RESTROOM, BATHROOM, SHOWER, BATH, DRESSING ROOM OR LOCKER ROOM AND A SIGN INDICATES THAT THE ROOM IS FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF PERSONS OF ONE SEX AND THE PERSON IS NOT LEGALLY CLASSIFIED ON THE PERSON'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS A MEMBER OF THAT SEX.

C. SUBSECTION B OF THIS SECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO A PERSON WHO ENTERS A PUBLIC RESTROOM, BATHROOM, SHOWER, BATH, DRESSING ROOM OR LOCKER ROOM AND WHO IS OF A DIFFERENT SEX THAN THAT INDICATED ON THE SIGN IF THE PERSON IS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

1. ENTERING AS PART OF THE PERSON'S JOB RESPONSIBILITIES.
2. ENTERING TO GIVE AID OR ASSISTANCE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
3. A CHILD WHO NEEDS ASSISTANCE.
4. PHYSICALLY DISABLED.


So ... was he caught with a tranny recently?
 
2013-03-19 04:51:19 PM
remind me not to go potty in AZ. I'm lucky i have my driver's license on me. I'm not about to carry my birth certificate
 
2013-03-19 04:53:40 PM
Woo hoo, Arizona.  Making transsexualism a crime.  Way to go.
 
2013-03-19 04:58:57 PM

GAT_00: Woo hoo, Arizona.  Making transsexualism a crime.  Way to go.

 
2013-03-19 05:02:02 PM
It's only March, but so far this may well be the dumbest idea I've heard all year. It has been pointed out that transsexuals (post or pre-op) are FAR better off going to the ladies room. But let's ask the Farkettes: Does that bother ANY of you at all? Honestly?

/I've seen women in the mens room at concerts, no one cared.
 
2013-03-19 05:10:59 PM

nekom: It has been pointed out that transsexuals (post or pre-op) are FAR better off going to the ladies room. But let's ask the Farkettes: Does that bother ANY of you at all? Honestly?


Doesn't bother me.  Then again, I don't live in Arizona where everyone seems to be afraid of their own shadow.
 
2013-03-19 05:12:13 PM
Give me your tired, your poor, your transgendered masses yearning to take a pee...
 
2013-03-19 05:22:10 PM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-19 05:25:02 PM
I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"
 
2013-03-19 05:25:55 PM
So, if I use the men's room because its empty and there' are four chicks waiting in line for the ladies, I'm a felon?
 
2013-03-19 05:27:12 PM

cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"


FYI: Fark is twice as hard when one is high from marijuana.

Lets try that again with a proper URL, shall we?
 
2013-03-19 05:28:39 PM
To bad we can get a national id. Good for citizen checks, voting and welfare programs.
 
2013-03-19 05:29:06 PM

cman: FYI: Fark is twice as hard when one is high from marijuana.


I hear that stuff can make you post the same tfd thread twice.
 
2013-03-19 05:30:36 PM

nekom: It's only March, but so far this may well be the dumbest idea I've heard all year. It has been pointed out that transsexuals (post or pre-op) are FAR better off going to the ladies room. But let's ask the Farkettes: Does that bother ANY of you at all? Honestly?

/I've seen women in the mens room at concerts, no one cared.


Not in the slightest. I never really understood the whole men's and women's rooms, anyway.  If someone is a deviant predator waiting to abduct me or do something horrible in the bathroom, that "women's" sign isn't going to deter him, or make him say "oh wait, I can't be in here. Better go somewhere else."  I really don't care who is in the bathroom with me, so long as they aren't in the same stall as i am using - and I'd have a problem if a woman did that, as well.
 *shrug*

I really don't pay enough attention to people minding their own business and not bothering anyone to have the slightest care or concern to this end.
 
2013-03-19 05:34:23 PM

cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"


Because there are no laws on the book that protect children from adult predators now?
Because that sign on the door, or that "disorderly conduct" charge is really going to make a predator say "never mind..." and go home and have a cup of tea and do the crossword instead?

It's blatantly obvious this is just a little "f-you" to transsexual and transgender people and when they realized just how blatant it was, they padded it out with some "protecting the little girls" bullshiat.  Because by this logic, who is protecting the girls from female predators? Or the boys from male predators? Maybe they need children only bathrooms because of this epidemic of child molesters in the bathrooms in AZ!  Or, you know, they just want to make like a little more difficult for, while further marginalizing, trans people and it has nothing at all to do with "the children."
 
2013-03-19 05:34:34 PM

what_now: So, if I use the men's room because its empty and there' are four chicks waiting in line for the ladies, I'm a felon?


A very naughty girl at the least
 
2013-03-19 05:35:00 PM
It sounds like its aimed at transgendered people.

/and drag queens who do bumps of cocaine in the ladies room.
 
2013-03-19 05:35:05 PM

cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.


But its sole purpose is to target those folk.
 
2013-03-19 05:36:23 PM

serpent_sky: cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"

Because there are no laws on the book that protect children from adult predators now?
Because that sign on the door, or that "disorderly conduct" charge is really going to make a predator say "never mind..." and go home and have a cup of tea and do the crossword instead?

It's blatantly obvious this is just a little "f-you" to transsexual and transgender people and when they realized just how blatant it was, they padded it out with some "protecting the little girls" bullshiat.  Because by this logic, who is protecting the girls from female predators? Or the boys from male predators? Maybe they need children only bathrooms because of this epidemic of child molesters in the bathrooms in AZ!  Or, you know, they just want to make like a little more difficult for, while further marginalizing, trans people and it has nothing at all to do with "the children."


Thats not it.

Sometimes men could be waiting for a victim and get caught before they can do anything. We could not charge him on anything. Although he had yet to commit the crime of sexual assault, it could have still been his intention.

Thats just my opinion.
 
2013-03-19 05:37:46 PM

Slaxl: cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

But its sole purpose is to target those folk.


Right now

But there is a chance to change that

Tack on an amendment with the language. If he votes against it he will be labeled an enabler of sexual assault.
 
2013-03-19 05:38:59 PM
The meme is "whar xxxxx whar" not "where xxx whe".

/if you use memes, use them responsibly
 
2013-03-19 05:39:38 PM

cman: Slaxl: cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

But its sole purpose is to target those folk.

Right now

But there is a chance to change that

Tack on an amendment with the language. If he votes against it he will be labeled an enabler of sexual assault.


I see, use his own bill against him... an interesting plan, but no one will go for it, because they don't want to be labelled an enabler of rights for all humans and a tolerant person. That'll cost you elections.
 
2013-03-19 05:42:54 PM

grinding_journalist: The meme is "whar xxxxx whar" not "where xxx whe".

/if you use memes, use them responsibly


I'd vote for a ban on high capacity memes
 
2013-03-19 05:43:56 PM
Don't you see what they're trying to do???

1. Require birth certificate in order to use bathroom
2. Invite Obama down to "public" event
3. Serve him lots of beer...

It's brilliant, really...
 
2013-03-19 05:43:59 PM

grinding_journalist: The meme is "whar xxxxx whar" not "where xxx whe".

/if you use memes, use them responsibly


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-19 05:44:10 PM

cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"


Dude, it is specifically FOR transgendered folk. As in "If you're TG get the fark out of AZ... or at least don't even THINK about taking your perverted little self out in public."
 
2013-03-19 05:44:41 PM

grinding_journalist: The meme is "whar xxxxx whar" not "where xxx whe".

/if you use memes, use them responsibly


No, subby is fine.  I don't have the picture that goes with it, though.
 
2013-03-19 05:44:47 PM
I vaguely remember going to a nightclub with a unisex bathroom. A very crowded unisex bathroom. I was so blitzed outta my mind that there was probably more going on in there than the rest of the club. Oh god, I was being hit on by a gay guy, wasn't I. I guess this is true....

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2013-03-19 05:44:55 PM

unlikely: cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"

Dude, it is specifically FOR transgendered folk. As in "If you're TG get the fark out of AZ... or at least don't even THINK about taking your perverted little self out in public."


cman: FYI: Fark is twice as hard when one is high from marijuana.

 
2013-03-19 05:45:05 PM

unlikely: cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"

Dude, it is specifically FOR transgendered folk. As in "If you're TG get the fark out of AZ... or at least don't even THINK about taking your perverted little self out in public."


Annnnnnd I see this ground has already been covered. I'm going back to youtube videos of baby pangolins.
 
2013-03-19 05:45:06 PM
 
2013-03-19 05:45:52 PM

what_now: So, if I use the men's room because its empty and there' are four chicks waiting in line for the ladies, I'm a felon?


Yes, if your bc says you're a woman.  Get in the kitchen where you belong!

/disorderly conduct's a misdemeanor
 
2013-03-19 05:46:43 PM
Representative Kavanagh,

No transsexual is interested in your dick and this isn't going to make them any more interested.
 
2013-03-19 05:47:49 PM
img810.imageshack.us

Would like a word.
 
2013-03-19 05:48:28 PM
Forget the transgenders, what if the men's room is out of order?  I mean, I follow the proper procedure and all- if it's a multi-person bathroom I call into the bathroom to make sure no women are there, leave a friend at the door to let people know I'm there... what about a one person bathroom?  I know lots of small shops that have two one person bathrooms.  You really want to make it a crime to use the wrong one?  (Why shops with just two bathrooms don't make two unisex bathrooms I don't know.)

And what about unisex bathrooms?  Is that ONLY for transgendered now?

I understand there is some fear that guys going in the women's bathrooms may be rapists.  Is a public nuisance law actually going to stop a rapist from going into a women's bathroom though?  So now that you have your only legitimate reason thrown out, why bully the people with gender identity issues?  (Of course, that's obviously the point, but let's call it out for the bigotry that it is.)
 
2013-03-19 05:49:28 PM

Tiiba: img810.imageshack.us

Would like a word.


That's the wizard from that monthly stick figure webcomic.
Is that still running? I used to like that one!
 
2013-03-19 05:50:46 PM
He seems like the type to refer to a transsexual as "it".
 
2013-03-19 05:50:57 PM

cman: I would see nothing wrong with this if there was language added to protect transgendered folk.

You gotta admit, there is a litlebit of logic concerning "grown men go into girls bathroom for children"


Also missing is a provision for out-of-order restrooms.  I suppose that could be taken care of by temporarily covering the gender sign on the working one.

But if he really wants to protect delicate sensibilities, he should ban unisex restrooms.  It makes me  sick to see bloody tampons in the toilet, and cooties are highly contagious!
 
2013-03-19 05:51:34 PM
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"Sometimes, not being a cop just isn't good enough to tap my foot. What if you used to be a woman?"
 
2013-03-19 05:52:22 PM

unlikely: Tiiba: img810.imageshack.us

Would like a word.

That's the wizard from that monthly stick figure webcomic.
Is that still running? I used to like that one!


It's weekly now.
 
2013-03-19 05:52:52 PM

what_now: So, if I use the men's room because its empty and there' are four chicks waiting in line for the ladies, I'm a felon?


You would be robbing me of the petty satisfaction I get walking past an endless line of women waiting with their legs crossed as I breeze in and out of the men's room, so yes.
 
2013-03-19 05:54:20 PM

Relatively Obscure: grinding_journalist: The meme is "whar xxxxx whar" not "where xxx whe".

/if you use memes, use them responsibly

No, subby is fine.  I don't have the picture that goes with it, though.


I see. I've been using "whar xxxx whar" for years and have seen it on many other forums; this is the first I'm seeing that picture or the quote/meme/reference in this context.
 
2013-03-19 05:55:53 PM

grinding_journalist: Relatively Obscure: grinding_journalist: The meme is "whar xxxxx whar" not "where xxx whe".

/if you use memes, use them responsibly

No, subby is fine.  I don't have the picture that goes with it, though.

I see. I've been using "whar xxxx whar" for years and have seen it on many other forums; this is the first I'm seeing that picture or the quote/meme/reference in this context.


It's because it references the birth certificate. It's referencing that specific picture I posted.
 
2013-03-19 05:57:28 PM

gilgigamesh: what_now: So, if I use the men's room because its empty and there' are four chicks waiting in line for the ladies, I'm a felon?

You would be robbing me of the petty satisfaction I get walking past an endless line of women waiting with their legs crossed as I breeze in and out of the men's room, so yes.


You've never been to an opera, have you. The lines at the Gents are even longer than those at the Ladies. Elderly prostates can be a bugger.
 
2013-03-19 05:58:20 PM
pedophile republican poisons bill that would of allowed him to gain access into ladies room, but he didn't have any crippled people to assist, so he poisoned the bill.

/That seems to be the jizz of it.
//If he is not a pedobear, then he must be able to prove it with some type of government document.

Sarcasm? and what the fark is wrong with people who preach morals but stomp on puppies that pissed in his cornflakes.
 
2013-03-19 06:05:35 PM
The is simple if you have penis you use the men's room, regardless of your clothing or mental illness.
 
2013-03-19 06:06:14 PM

Tillmaster: Elderly prostates can be a bugger.


Much to my chagrin--THIS.
 
2013-03-19 06:07:31 PM

HoratioGates: Forget the transgenders, what if the men's room is out of order?


I'm

out of order?  I'm out of order?  You're out of order!  This whole courtroom is out of order!  Attica!  Attica!  Attica!

/obscure?
 
2013-03-19 06:09:47 PM

pisceandreamer: Then again, I don't live in Arizona where everyone seems to be afraid of their own shadow.


Be fair.  It would be better to phrase this as "Then again, I don't live in Arizona, where most of the country sends its old racist grandfathers and uncles during cold weather, which is coincidentally also when everyone votes."
 
2013-03-19 06:10:27 PM

rickythepenguin: I'm out of order? I'm out of order? You're out of order! This whole courtroom is out of order! Attica! Attica! Attica!

/obscure?


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