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(HyperVocal)   There's showing no remorse, then there's showing up to court with a "KILLER" T-shirt and flipping off victims' families   (hypervocal.com) divider line 360
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2013-03-19 07:25:21 PM  
There are some problems that are best resolved with .45 ACP. He is one of them.
 
2013-03-19 07:27:05 PM  
Just a little info on his childhood.The records say between 1995 and 1997, the boy's father and mother, Sara A. Nolan, were each charged with domestic violence against each other.
At a later date, the father was charged with assaulting a police officer and served time in prison after trying to suffocate another woman he married several years after his son was born, according to court records.

Gosh, combine that childhood with mental illness and color me surprised that he turned to violence. But, that's okay, he'll get the loving he never got as a child from the rapist in prison, amiright?
 
2013-03-19 07:28:42 PM  

2headedboy: JonnyG: The Stealth Hippopotamus: nekom: You do realize that the death penalty is more expensive, don't you? Legal fees and all that.

expensive, but worth it.

Only because of the bleeding hearts. People like this don't deserve appeals. Sorry, but the only way to peace is to eliminate hate. Sure, we'll lose a few innocents, but in the end the world will be a happy place.

Isn't it funny how conservatives scream and wail for less government except when it comes to state authorized murder?


If anything, feeding and monitoring prisoners for their entire natural life is more government.
 
2013-03-19 07:29:26 PM  

NightOwl2255: Just a little info on his childhood.The records say between 1995 and 1997, the boy's father and mother, Sara A. Nolan, were each charged with domestic violence against each other.
At a later date, the father was charged with assaulting a police officer and served time in prison after trying to suffocate another woman he married several years after his son was born, according to court records.

Gosh, combine that childhood with mental illness and color me surprised that he turned to violence. But, that's okay, he'll get the loving he never got as a child from the rapist in prison, amiright?


Don't forget genetics. Of the four most evil people I've met, two pairs of father and son. Nature, nurture, who knows but it does run in families once in a while.
 
2013-03-19 07:31:08 PM  

jeffdo1: He's doing the tough guy routine now, but after six months in an adult prison he'll be regretting that. In a year he will find Jesus, claim his dad molested him etc etc.


Are you a gypsy fortune teller or a writer for The Onion?
 
2013-03-19 07:32:14 PM  

Alonjar: Wonder what the "victims" did to make this guy so far off the deep end.

Hate like that doesn't just materialize.


The "victims" were High School children. HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. They didn't DO anything to deserve death, you sick farker.
 
2013-03-19 07:32:37 PM  

TrixieDelite: I don't think it's okay for people to be raped/killed in prison. I think it's okay for this person to be raped/killed in prison.



Bingo.

It's not like this guy was merely arrested for having a bag of weed in his car.
 
2013-03-19 07:32:55 PM  

Great Janitor: To me, life in prison without the chance at parole is the worst punishment possible, even worse than death.  If you're sentenced to life in prison, but have the chance at parole, at least you have something to look forward to.  Something that you can work towards.  There is hope that you can be free.  With the death penalty, there is a date that it will end.

When it's life without parole, that means that for decades you are going to be in prison, that there is no escape, no release, no hope.  No hope of release or parole, nothing to work towards.  When you're still a teenager, three life sentences and no chance at parole means that four-fifths of your life (assuming a 100 year life) will be in prison.  It's a life where there is nothing to really work towards, no goals, no dreams and zero hope.  Worse yet, this kid will probably never have a visitor or letter from the outside world, unless his parents still give a damn about him, and honestly, they could disown him at this point and no one would blame them.

My personal belief is that instead of life without parole, we might as well just do the humane thing and execute.


From a logical perspective I would agree. However, I think the survival instinct would be too strong to ignore for most people (myself included) when the time to make that decision actually came, which is why there have been lots of people who have pleaded guilty and accepted life without parole in order to avoid the death penalty. I'm against the death penalty for several reasons, but I would be OK with offering a humane execution as a voluntary option for prisoners who are sentenced to life, assuming there would be mental health professionals involved to make sure they're not making that decision because of a treatable psychological problem. But if they're of sound mind then they should be able to choose death.
 
2013-03-19 07:32:58 PM  

Magnanimous_J: And at the end of that interminably long prison sentence, he will have to face the knowledge that he accomplished absolutely nothing and died insignificant and alone, completely forgotten by the world and everyone in it.


This is a fate far worse than death. The people that want him to die? I don't know what their motivations are, but they're very short sighted. A long, cold, boring, uneventful life is a hellish one. Nobody will care about what he did, or who he was, and then he'll die alone. Even the people that put him in the ground won't know him. They'll just dump some old man in an incinerator and then go get lunch. That's revenge you can only buy on an institutional level, and it's worth a lot more than a few seconds of violence.
 
2013-03-19 07:37:00 PM  

Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Wonder what the "victims" did to make this guy so far off the deep end.

Hate like that doesn't just materialize.

The "victims" were High School children. HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. They didn't DO anything to deserve death, you sick farker.


*shrug* I'm happy that you never had to deal with the kind of experiences that allow you to comprehend why or how a person can be pushed over the edge.
 
2013-03-19 07:38:25 PM  

Talos: But jurors don't get "just" a cop's say so anymore. They get multiple witnesses, they get DNA evidence, they get surveillance evidence, they get firearm and blade forensic evidence, they get fingerprint, palm prints, foot prints, they get hair evidence, etc. And at times they even get confessions. So what about those that are without a doubt, they absolutely committed the crime and were given the death penalty? Are you satisfied that they get 20 appeals over the next 50 years when its been proven beyond any doubt whatsoever they are guilty? That's why the death penalty is so expensive.


So are you arguing that no one gets convicted unjustly of crimes these days? Say, no one within the last 10 years has been convicted of a serious felony (We could just even limit it to murder and rape!) that they didn't commit?
 
2013-03-19 07:38:51 PM  

MaxxLarge: I'd say the over / under on him getting a shower-shank in the pen is about 3 weeks / 2 months.


I don't understand why anyone would want to show him that kind of mercy. Spending the whole of your natural life in prison with no possibility of parole starting at age 17 is much worse than getting stabbed to death, even with a small knife, after three and a half weeks. This kid will be praying to be shanked by age 25.
 
2013-03-19 07:40:09 PM  

Alonjar: *shrug* I'm happy that you never had to deal with the kind of experiences that allow you to comprehend why or how a person can be pushed over the edge.


Sometimes people are just horrible folks too. The Columbine shooters, it turned out, weren't lashing out at bullying, and I somehow doubt the people in the movie theater in colorado bullied the shooter.

Or, ooh. Maybe all those gradeschool kids in Sandy Hook elementry were bully the shooter!

/Sometimes, people are just farked in the head.
 
2013-03-19 07:40:23 PM  

Talos: Since 1973, 142 people on death row have been released after being found innocent.

Justice is not a simple matter of majority rule. It is not a matter of expedience or economy.

Those figures are not accurate. They're put out by a anti-death penalty group (deathpenalty.org) and the bulk of those numbers include people who the prosecutors asked for the death penalty, but were found not guilty by the jury. In fact, this organization is hard pressed to provide a single example where in the last 50 years anyone has been wrongfully executed.

And yes, I also think DNA is great stuff - in fact, it reinforces my "one appeal and you're done" example. This isn't the early 60's and before anymore. People don't get sentenced to death just because one witness said so or a bad cop fudged evidence. There are major forensic and surveillance forces at work now and jurors demand to see it before convicting. If someone is sentenced to death these days, it's because they did the crime and it was horrific enough in nature to warrant the death penalty.


I didn't have that info about the stats.  Thank you; I'll see how true it is.

It's great that the justice system has become less fallible.  It is not infallible, as you choose to believe.  Nor is it incorruptible.  I am not prepared to trust it with the death penalty.
 
2013-03-19 07:40:27 PM  

scottydoesntknow: lockers: What's the big deal? I masturbate with the hand that held my ladies boob.  How does that make me history's greatest monster?

That depends, was the boob still attached to the lady when you did it?


I'm failing to see why that matters. It made sure to put the lotion on its skin. I'll go with attached, as there was plenty of hide left in the shirt i made.
 
2013-03-19 07:40:34 PM  
It was that horrible "Swing" dance that's to blame, isn't it?  That godless jive, brought over by those colored fellas.

We need to ban that dance, before our sweet God-fearing sons & daughters are seduced and turned.
 
2013-03-19 07:40:46 PM  

skantea: Quaker: Great Janitor: You know, he was found guilty, no possible way he was going to be let free, the families of his victims could not do anything but sit there and watch, might as well go ahead and get one last verbal jab at them, not really going to make any difference.  He will never again be a free man.

This is part of the reason I'm opposed to sentencing anyone to life without the possibility of parole. It gives them very little reason to even think about things that could potentially lead them to becoming a better person, and at the very least it's more likely to make them a bigger problem/danger for prison staff since many people in that situation will feel like they have nothing to lose.

Also, I do believe that anyone CAN change. Not that it will happen for all or even most of them, but given enough time some people genuinely do. And this is especially true for young offenders as in this case. Life can look a lot different at age 47 than it did at 17. So at least allow for the possibility that they might be let out at some point in the future.

After the mid twenties it gets extremely hard for people to change.  That said, those changes have to be internally motivated.  The outside world is kind of just a spectator at some point. In any case the population is growing too fast for quality social work to keep up.


I agree that it's very difficult to do, especially for the kinds of people who get sent to prison for serious offenses. But however difficult it is, it's not impossible, so I don't see the harm in just allowing for the possibility.
 
2013-03-19 07:40:55 PM  

PreMortem: At least he didn't placate himself by crying for mercy, giving a fake apology, or admitting the errors of his ways. I admire such conviction.


That's pretty much how I felt after reading it.

I read somewhere that most of us are at the same level of moral development as three year olds - we behave out of fear of external punishment, not out of adherence to a internally derived moral code. Weird to think that this guy is actually a step ahead - his actions are governed by what ever internal moral code he established. And he seems to have adhered to it - defiantly even.
 
2013-03-19 07:43:30 PM  

Alonjar: Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Wonder what the "victims" did to make this guy so far off the deep end.

Hate like that doesn't just materialize.

The "victims" were High School children. HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. They didn't DO anything to deserve death, you sick farker.

*shrug* I'm happy that you never had to deal with the kind of experiences that allow you to comprehend why or how a person can be pushed over the edge.


Oh and I am sure YOU have. I am sure you served in a forward position in Afghanistan after graduating with your PhD in Clinical Psychology.

I on the other hand, have a lousy 4 yr degree and was mercifully bullied and abused during my school years. So I guess I have absolutely no idea what I am talking about compared to you.
 
2013-03-19 07:45:05 PM  

WhippingBoy: My friend used to work as a prison guard. Whenever some cocky shiat-rat came through and started trash-talking them, they'd make sure he'd get "randomly" get paired with an AH* designated cell-mate.

*AH = Aggressive Homosexual


Your friend is either completely full of shiat or it was a long time ago as in 30 years ago.

If you do that stuff now, you run a real risk of ending up in prison yourself.I know of one officer who was accused of this and is now in prison for life. They had no real evidence, but they railroaded her.

Also, he will go to a special unit where there is no chance of bongo-bongo, willing or forced.
 
2013-03-19 07:46:01 PM  
Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... the top sheet on the bottom... and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...  the box..
 
2013-03-19 07:48:32 PM  
Flawless victory for this attention whore.
 
2013-03-19 07:50:06 PM  

Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Wonder what the "victims" did to make this guy so far off the deep end.

Hate like that doesn't just materialize.

The "victims" were High School children. HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. They didn't DO anything to deserve death, you sick farker.

*shrug* I'm happy that you never had to deal with the kind of experiences that allow you to comprehend why or how a person can be pushed over the edge.

Oh and I am sure YOU have. I am sure you served in a forward position in Afghanistan after graduating with your PhD in Clinical Psychology.

I on the other hand, have a lousy 4 yr degree and was mercifully bullied and abused during my school years. So I guess I have absolutely no idea what I am talking about compared to you.


I bet you still are. People don't change, only circumstances.
 
2013-03-19 07:50:43 PM  

Quaker: Great Janitor: To me, life in prison without the chance at parole is the worst punishment possible, even worse than death.  If you're sentenced to life in prison, but have the chance at parole, at least you have something to look forward to.  Something that you can work towards.  There is hope that you can be free.  With the death penalty, there is a date that it will end.

When it's life without parole, that means that for decades you are going to be in prison, that there is no escape, no release, no hope.  No hope of release or parole, nothing to work towards.  When you're still a teenager, three life sentences and no chance at parole means that four-fifths of your life (assuming a 100 year life) will be in prison.  It's a life where there is nothing to really work towards, no goals, no dreams and zero hope.  Worse yet, this kid will probably never have a visitor or letter from the outside world, unless his parents still give a damn about him, and honestly, they could disown him at this point and no one would blame them.

My personal belief is that instead of life without parole, we might as well just do the humane thing and execute.

From a logical perspective I would agree. However, I think the survival instinct would be too strong to ignore for most people (myself included) when the time to make that decision actually came, which is why there have been lots of people who have pleaded guilty and accepted life without parole in order to avoid the death penalty. I'm against the death penalty for several reasons, but I would be OK with offering a humane execution as a voluntary option for prisoners who are sentenced to life, assuming there would be mental health professionals involved to make sure they're not making that decision because of a treatable psychological problem. But if they're of sound mind then they should be able to choose death.


I am the opposite.  I've been in shiat environments and shiat situations.  The only thing that really got me through them was the knowledge that it would one day end.  Now, put me into a situation where I'm in utter hell, which is prison.  I've seen those shows about life behind bars on cable.  It's not a place I'd want to work carrying a gun, let alone a place I'd want to be in as a prisoner.  Give me the option of life in prison without ever getting out alive or a bullet to the back of the head and out the front, I'll take the bullet.

But I need the hope that I would get released.  I need to have something to work for, goals to reach.  Take all of that from me and tell me from day one that's the situation, and I'll ask for the release of death.  But that's me.  At least when there is the possibility of parole, you have something to work for.  Yeah they could always deny you each and every time, but as long as I have that hope of release, I have something.
 
2013-03-19 07:50:44 PM  

nekom: Livingroom: of course, we cant have a death penalty. instead this guy gets to live out his life on our dime. wtf. this guy should be the poster child for execution, especially with his little quote.

FTFA: Lane offered one harsh sentence of his own: "The hand that pulls the trigger that killed your sons now masturbates to the memory. fark all of you."

You do realize that the death penalty is more expensive, don't you? Legal fees and all that.

/fark that guy, life in a hole works just fine for him.


Correct, death penalty is more expensive. If I ever did something really bad, I'd choose death penalty over life in a hole, as it would be 100 times better.
 
2013-03-19 07:51:09 PM  

priapic_abandon: Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... the top sheet on the bottom... and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...  the box..


Haha. Got a kick out of that.... Clifton James was a good friend of my dads. Hung out with him many times when I was a kid. I think I still have a signed photo he gave me from Cool Hand Luke, buried in a drawer somewhere.

/CSB
 
2013-03-19 07:51:15 PM  
Lots of rape fetishists in this thread. Apparently rape is an acceptable punishment in certain circumstances. If you don't believe our current laws go far enough, run for office on a "tough on crime" platform or something and try to get a bill passed with your version of justice. Be sure to include every aspect of your rape fantasy in the text of the bill.

/Rape
 
2013-03-19 07:52:08 PM  
Sometimes people REALLY meant to do what they do! Why is this a surprise. He meant to do it he had his reasons he doesn't care. For some reason this REALLY bugs people.
 
2013-03-19 07:53:10 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: I bet you still are. People don't change, only circumstances.


I guess we're all zygotes, then?

/Seriously, what?
 
2013-03-19 07:53:11 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Magnanimous_J: And at the end of that interminably long prison sentence, he will have to face the knowledge that he accomplished absolutely nothing and died insignificant and alone, completely forgotten by the world and everyone in it.

This is a fate far worse than death. The people that want him to die? I don't know what their motivations are, but they're very short sighted. A long, cold, boring, uneventful life is a hellish one. Nobody will care about what he did, or who he was, and then he'll die alone. Even the people that put him in the ground won't know him. They'll just dump some old man in an incinerator and then go get lunch. That's revenge you can only buy on an institutional level, and it's worth a lot more than a few seconds of violence.


I agree with that normally, however this kid claims to masturbate to the memory of killing so I wouldn't expect that he understand the concepts of cold, boring, uneventful, alone, or hellish in a way we would recognize. So the long slow sentence may not be that satisfying for us unless we hear somewhere down the line that he totally cracked and is freaking out in prison.
 
2013-03-19 07:54:14 PM  
he has great penmanship
 
2013-03-19 07:54:51 PM  
Kid would fit right in at a teabagger rally.
 
2013-03-19 07:55:41 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Wonder what the "victims" did to make this guy so far off the deep end.

Hate like that doesn't just materialize.

The "victims" were High School children. HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. They didn't DO anything to deserve death, you sick farker.

*shrug* I'm happy that you never had to deal with the kind of experiences that allow you to comprehend why or how a person can be pushed over the edge.

Oh and I am sure YOU have. I am sure you served in a forward position in Afghanistan after graduating with your PhD in Clinical Psychology.

I on the other hand, have a lousy 4 yr degree and was mercifully bullied and abused during my school years. So I guess I have absolutely no idea what I am talking about compared to you.

I bet you still are. People don't change, only circumstances.


My point exactly. Last time I checked, I have not gone on a shooting rampage killing people because I was bullied. Thats why I (arguably) don't belong in prison for life. And this guy does. Thank you for proving my point, while attempting (lamely) to insult me!
 
2013-03-19 07:56:53 PM  

soupafi: Why didn't CNN talk about how his promising life is now ruined because of this conviction?


Dang... you beat me to it.  +1 for you.  :)
 
2013-03-19 07:56:53 PM  
 You farkers know what's not so funny about prison rape? The fact that both the raped and rapists will possibly walk among you someday.  Ha, ha. That guy who got raped in prison might someday be free and victimization is a cycle.

It's really funny that people get raped in prison. I hope you find male-on-maie rape so amusing when the released victim is raping one of your own kids. And, if you look at the stats on male rape, chances are high that when your child is raped they are going to suffer silently because boys are not supposed to get raped.

Forced sodomy as punishment and accepted by society? You farkers should be ashamed.
 
2013-03-19 07:57:59 PM  

Felgraf: YouSirAreAMaroon: I bet you still are. People don't change, only circumstances.

I guess we're all zygotes, then?

/Seriously, what?


Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse the anti-abortion crowd. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
2013-03-19 07:58:05 PM  

Micronaut: Forced sodomy as punishment and accepted by society? You farkers should be ashamed.


It's the only way they'll learn.
 
2013-03-19 07:58:15 PM  

NotoriousW.O.P: I don't think I've said this since the Newtown shooting, but WHAT THE fark IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!?


You mean apart from " hallucinations, psychosis and fantasies"?
 
2013-03-19 07:59:31 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Talos: Since 1973, 142 people on death row have been released after being found innocent.

Justice is not a simple matter of majority rule. It is not a matter of expedience or economy.

Those figures are not accurate. They're put out by a anti-death penalty group (deathpenalty.org) and the bulk of those numbers include people who the prosecutors asked for the death penalty, but were found not guilty by the jury. In fact, this organization is hard pressed to provide a single example where in the last 50 years anyone has been wrongfully executed.

And yes, I also think DNA is great stuff - in fact, it reinforces my "one appeal and you're done" example. This isn't the early 60's and before anymore. People don't get sentenced to death just because one witness said so or a bad cop fudged evidence. There are major forensic and surveillance forces at work now and jurors demand to see it before convicting. If someone is sentenced to death these days, it's because they did the crime and it was horrific enough in nature to warrant the death penalty.

I didn't have that info about the stats.  Thank you; I'll see how true it is.

It's great that the justice system has become less fallible.  It is not infallible, as you choose to believe.  Nor is it incorruptible.  I am not prepared to trust it with the death penalty.


I have no problem trusting our system with the death penalty in cases where it is proven beyond all doubt that the person sentenced to death did it.  If you have a situation where 12 people can identify the gunman of a mass shooter, along with security camera footage, prints on the gun that he was arrested with that ballistics examination proves that it was the gun that was fired, and DNA evidence, then yeah, execute.

If there is the chance that the person on trial is not the person who committed the crimes, then execution shouldn't be an option.  But this kind of points to a flaw with our legal system.  From what I've seen, it's gone less and less about the truth via facts and more about the win/loss ratio of the lawyers.
 
2013-03-19 07:59:38 PM  
I'm predicting an all-out BRAWL for the prisoners to decide who is going to make this kid his biatch.

/dibs!
 
2013-03-19 08:00:21 PM  

nekom: You do realize that the death penalty is more expensive, don't you? Legal fees and all that.


The only reason for that is the lack of teeth in the law. If you make capital punishment like the following, it would be less expensive:
 -- If convicted of a crime and given capital punishment, you get a maximum of 3 appeals
 -- Those 3 appeals must all happen within 3 years of the original trial
 -- If after those 4 total trials you are still found guilty, you have 30 days to live
 -- Period. Buh-bye scum

THAT is the capital punishment law I would like to see enacted and in place EVERYWHERE.

Might one or two innocent people get caught up? Maybe. But it is still a better law than what we have going now.

/endless lawsuits
//massive waste of taxpayer money
///farkers get even worse in jail and murder people there too
//fark them all
/real capital punishment like this will never happen - calm down bleeding hearts
 
2013-03-19 08:01:36 PM  

Summa cum loudly: Thats why I (arguably) don't belong in prison for life. And this guy does.


And no one questions he deserves to be in prison for life. It's you pathological desire to see him suffer that makes you, well, who you are.
 
2013-03-19 08:01:52 PM  

Summa cum loudly: YouSirAreAMaroon: Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Summa cum loudly: Alonjar: Wonder what the "victims" did to make this guy so far off the deep end.

Hate like that doesn't just materialize.

The "victims" were High School children. HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. They didn't DO anything to deserve death, you sick farker.

*shrug* I'm happy that you never had to deal with the kind of experiences that allow you to comprehend why or how a person can be pushed over the edge.

Oh and I am sure YOU have. I am sure you served in a forward position in Afghanistan after graduating with your PhD in Clinical Psychology.

I on the other hand, have a lousy 4 yr degree and was mercifully bullied and abused during my school years. So I guess I have absolutely no idea what I am talking about compared to you.

I bet you still are. People don't change, only circumstances.

My point exactly. Last time I checked, I have not gone on a shooting rampage killing people because I was bullied. Thats why I (arguably) don't belong in prison for life. And this guy does. Thank you for proving my point, while attempting (lamely) to insult me!


I didn't realize you had a point, I thought you were just sharing your rape/torture fantasies.
 
2013-03-19 08:02:42 PM  

Reverend J: LaraAmber: Ritley: The fact that most people think its OK for people to be raped/killed in prison is more sickening than this crime.

Okay?  No.  A viable alternative until the Government allows us to start catapulting people into the sun?  Yes.

Or, you know, we could have a system that rehabilitates prisoners like the rest of the civilized world.  But don't let me get in your way of need wanton violence.


The fact that you think a broken farked up POS that would say things like that to his victims family is even CAPABLE of rehab is proof that you are part of the problem.

/fark off bleeding heart
//You're not helping
 
2013-03-19 08:03:26 PM  
"Remorse is lacking," Judge David Fuhry said on Tuesday

Also, the surface sun is a little warm.
 
2013-03-19 08:07:43 PM  

Abox: Micronaut: Forced sodomy as punishment and accepted by society? You farkers should be ashamed.

It's the only way they'll learn.


So, you agree that rape is an abuse cycle and the future innocent victims are acceptable collateral damage?

1/10, troll.
 
2013-03-19 08:07:53 PM  

Ritley: The fact that most people think its OK for people to be raped/killed in prison is more sickening than this crime.


You can tell a lot about a civillization by how it treats its crimminals.You can tell even more by how its crimminals treat it.Truly we are godlike in our wisdom.Lock your doors,amen
 
2013-03-19 08:10:54 PM  

Quaker: Great Janitor: To me, life in prison without the chance at parole is the worst punishment possible, even worse than death.  If you're sentenced to life in prison, but have the chance at parole, at least you have something to look forward to.  Something that you can work towards.  There is hope that you can be free.  With the death penalty, there is a date that it will end.

When it's life without parole, that means that for decades you are going to be in prison, that there is no escape, no release, no hope.  No hope of release or parole, nothing to work towards.  When you're still a teenager, three life sentences and no chance at parole means that four-fifths of your life (assuming a 100 year life) will be in prison.  It's a life where there is nothing to really work towards, no goals, no dreams and zero hope.  Worse yet, this kid will probably never have a visitor or letter from the outside world, unless his parents still give a damn about him, and honestly, they could disown him at this point and no one would blame them.

My personal belief is that instead of life without parole, we might as well just do the humane thing and execute.

From a logical perspective I would agree. However, I think the survival instinct would be too strong to ignore for most people (myself included) when the time to make that decision actually came, which is why there have been lots of people who have pleaded guilty and accepted life without parole in order to avoid the death penalty. I'm against the death penalty for several reasons, but I would be OK with offering a humane execution as a voluntary option for prisoners who are sentenced to life, assuming there would be mental health professionals involved to make sure they're not making that decision because of a treatable psychological problem. But if they're of sound mind then they should be able to choose death.


Why the fark should prisoners be allowed to choose death when no one else is allowed to? People be suffering from some heinous diseases out there, have no quality of life and no hope of any and yet they are forced to remain alive against their will. You gonna give these real people the same right, or just the biatches who farking killed someone?
 
2013-03-19 08:11:00 PM  

Micronaut: Abox: Micronaut: Forced sodomy as punishment and accepted by society? You farkers should be ashamed.

It's the only way they'll learn.

So, you agree that rape is an abuse cycle and the future innocent victims are acceptable collateral damage?

1/10, troll.



Well when you put it that way with the mean voice...
 
2013-03-19 08:12:43 PM  

Micronaut: You farkers know what's not so funny about prison rape? The fact that both the raped and rapists will possibly walk among you someday.  Ha, ha. That guy who got raped in prison might someday be free and victimization is a cycle.

It's really funny that people get raped in prison. I hope you find male-on-maie rape so amusing when the released victim is raping one of your own kids. And, if you look at the stats on male rape, chances are high that when your child is raped they are going to suffer silently because boys are not supposed to get raped.

Forced sodomy as punishment and accepted by society? You farkers should be ashamed.


You make me laugh. What do you think prison should be? A walk in the garden picking daisies? Hey, I have an Idea! If you don't want to face the horrors of being in prison....don't commit crimes!
You and all the other holier-then-thou farkers in this thread are unbelievable. You wanna see a real prison, go to Turkey or Russia. The prisons in the US are a lot nicer in comparison. I am far from a conservative, but the bleeding-heart liberal apologists in this thread are really pathetic..
 
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