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200 times more is not equal to 200% more.

Subby must work for Verizon.

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Treygreen13: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Bad math aside, the marketing is stupid.

Scenario A:
#1  I think I'll have a cup of regular coffee.
#2  I think I'll join ya!

Scenario B:
#1  I think I'll have two three cups of regular coffee.
#2  Are you effing crazy?!?!

FTFY

Convert a percent to a decimal by dividing by 100.

(200% / 100 = 2)

The amount of caffeine in one cup of coffee multiplied by 2 is the amount of caffeine in two cups of coffee.

If something has '200% more' caffeine it has 300% of the original amount.
The word "cuppa" makes me want to punch noses.
Although, making coffee that is only "Triple Strength" but using "200%" to trick people bad at math sounds like a good marketing ploy.
If you want caffeine, stay away from dark roasted coffee beans.

Roasting vaporizes caffeine out of the beans, which is why lighter roasted beans like breakfast blends will have more kick, but a lighter flavor.

Rule of thumb:  The darker the bean, the less the caffeine.
Apparently subby has been living by the mantra of "I was told there would be no math" since 3rd grade.
200 times? 200 percent? 200%, that's the amount of the Federal Budget that goes to PBS, right?

Listen to your doctor:

Step 1: Take a Caffeine tab if you want some caffeine. You'll get a consistent, known quantity that doesn't change depending on how fine the beans were ground or how hot the water is today.

Step 2: go down the street and get a tastey cup of coffee from your neighborhood indie coffee bar. Not that one, the one around the corner that doesn't suck.

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Treygreen13: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Bad math aside, the marketing is stupid.

Scenario A:
#1  I think I'll have a cup of regular coffee.
#2  I think I'll join ya!

Scenario B:
#1  I think I'll have two three cups of regular coffee.
#2  Are you effing crazy?!?!

FTFY

Convert a percent to a decimal by dividing by 100.

(200% / 100 = 2)

The amount of caffeine in one cup of coffee multiplied by 2 is the amount of caffeine in two cups of coffee.

If the claim was "200% of your normal dose of caffeine" you'd be right. But it's not. It was "200% more than your normal dose of caffeine". So you start at 100% (one cup) then add another 200% (2 cups), for a total of 3 cups

karmaceutical: What is the LD50 for caffeine anyway?

From Wikipedia:

Extreme overdose can result in death.[69][70] The 50) given orally, is 192 milligrams per kilogram in rats. The LD50 of caffeine in humans is dependent on individual sensitivity, but is estimated to be about 150 to 200 milligrams per kilogram of body mass or roughly 80 to 100 cups of coffee for an average adult.[4]
What is the LD50 for caffeine anyway?
200% more = 3 times as much = still much less than an espresso if brewed as a normal pot.

Not impressed.
And I am pretty sure 200 TIMES the amount of caffeine of a coffee at once WOULD actually be a death wish.   Wasn't there a story of some guy who OD'ed on caffeine powder and died recently?
Double the caffeine, 200 times the caffeine, it's all the same
 1 vote:
Per cent non equalat per unum

You suck, subby
 1 vote:
Anhydrous? Why not just say "powdered"?
 1 vote:
Sounds to me like Subby was having a little fun with us.  Niiiiice.  I see what you did there.  +1 intarnets for you, Subby.
 1 vote:

Professor Science: ERNesbitt: karmaceutical: Alphakronik: If you want caffeine, stay away from dark roasted coffee beans.

Roasting vaporizes caffeine out of the beans, which is why lighter roasted beans like breakfast blends will have more kick, but a lighter flavor.

Rule of thumb:  The darker the bean, the less the caffeine.

Has more to do with the steep time doesn't it?

Most of the caffeine in tea is released in the first 30-45 seconds of brewing, so you can "decaf" tea by brewing for 30-45 seconds, pouring it out, and putting in fresh water. Caffeine being a volatile compound, I'd imagine similar to be true of coffee. My Google-fu in the two minutes I tried searching is not producing links to actual studies. But, I'll keep looking.

Coffee grounds tend to have a larger characteristic thickness than tea leaves, so the diffusion is probably a bit slower.  How much slower, I don't know.  I do know that when I find the office coffee pot empty and I don't want to wait for the entire pot to brew, putting my coffee mug under the basket for the first cup and then switching it for the pot produces a single cup of surprisingly tasty coffee with caffeine levels in the "high yield tactical" to "strategic" range.  It's pretty awesome.

As a guy who has often gazed longingly into the stream of coffee pour out of the office machine, waiting for the pot to be full; I can say that the coffee you get at the beginning of the drip brew is stronger/better than that at the end.
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ERNesbitt: karmaceutical: Alphakronik: If you want caffeine, stay away from dark roasted coffee beans.

Roasting vaporizes caffeine out of the beans, which is why lighter roasted beans like breakfast blends will have more kick, but a lighter flavor.

Rule of thumb:  The darker the bean, the less the caffeine.

Has more to do with the steep time doesn't it?

Most of the caffeine in tea is released in the first 30-45 seconds of brewing, so you can "decaf" tea by brewing for 30-45 seconds, pouring it out, and putting in fresh water. Caffeine being a volatile compound, I'd imagine similar to be true of coffee. My Google-fu in the two minutes I tried searching is not producing links to actual studies. But, I'll keep looking.

Coffee grounds tend to have a larger characteristic thickness than tea leaves, so the diffusion is probably a bit slower.  How much slower, I don't know.  I do know that when I find the office coffee pot empty and I don't want to wait for the entire pot to brew, putting my coffee mug under the basket for the first cup and then switching it for the pot produces a single cup of surprisingly tasty coffee with caffeine levels in the "high yield tactical" to "strategic" range.  It's pretty awesome.
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Parallax: My friend Keith was a coder in the early '90s.

He once drank three six packs of Jolt over a 36-hour period while banging out a "Schoolhouse Rock" game before deadline.  That's the equivalent of 36 Cokes at a rate of one per hour.

This is the same man who once ate a whole wheel of cheese and a Swiss Colony Beef Log for lunch.  Casually.  As in, it's just what he had in the kitchen to bring with him that day.

Amazingly, he's not dead.  He found a woman to clean him up, make him healthy, and have a couple equally ingenious kids.  I miss that guy.  He won at life.

At his parties he would just serve gigantic bowls of meat.  That's it, just meat.

Is this him?

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Wait, what? Two hundred times the caffeine? That's 200 cups of coffee at once. That is death in a cup.

200% of the caffeine? That's like adding a shot of espresso. At most you'll get a little jittery if you're not used to it.

Little difference there, I'd say.
 1 vote:
Bad math aside, the marketing is stupid.

Scenario A:
#1  I think I'll have a cup of regular coffee.
#2  I think I'll join ya!

Scenario B:
#1  I think I'll have two cups of regular coffee.
#2  Are you effing crazy?!?!
 1 vote:
Subby fails at percentages.
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dletter: And I am pretty sure 200 TIMES the amount of caffeine of a coffee at once WOULD actually be a death wish.   Wasn't there a story of some guy who OD'ed on caffeine powder and died recently?

Yeah, if you drank the same amount of coffee with 200 times more caffeine, you probably would die of a caffeine OD.

But 200% more caffeine...meh.  That's just getting into the caffeine level of most energy drinks.
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Subby should switch to decaf

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