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2013-03-19 07:03:28 PM
2 votes:
OLD NEWS.

EVERYONE has been playing video games since the late 1970s and early 1980s. We used to have these places called "arcades", and in these "arcades" they had all sorts of video games. Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, Super Pac-Man, Pac-Man Jr., Asteroids, Space Invaders, Centipede, Millipede, Q*Bert, Dig Dug, Galaga, Vanguard, Bag Man, Super Bag Man, Joust, Dragon's Lair, Pole Position, Donkey Kong, Space War, Mr. Do, Donkey Kong Jr., Mario Bros., Zaxxon, Amidar, Pooyan, Bubble Bobble, Mappy, Mappyland, Crystal Castles, Berserk, Elevator Action, Duck Hunt, Wild Gunman, Tapper, Qix, Tron, Gorf, Wizard of Wor, Venture, and many, many more.

At these "arcades", people of all ages and genders would put round shiny things called "quarters" or sometimes "tokens" into these video games. Boys, girls, men, women, transvestites, transsexuals... Everybody played these video games... And they kept on playing them at home. Pong, Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Odyssey2, Intellivision, Colecovision, Nintendo Entertainment System, Sega Master System, Gameboy, and on and on. People kept playing these games.

Why, there were even hit songs on the radio about video games (Pac-Man Fever), and movies in the theaters about them, too!

When tablets, home computers, cell phones, and handheld gaming systems became popular, people kept playing these games. Men, Women, children. All ages. All sexual orientations. All shoe sizes.

Video games have been popular, mainstream entertainment since the late 1970s. By the 1990s they started made more money than Hollywood movies-- Another mainstream form of entertainment.

Girls playing video games is not remarkable or new. Your mom and grandma play video games. Your boring aunt plays video games. Unless they have some moral opposition to video games, most people in America play video games at least sometimes.

I do not understand why this "news" keeps coming up every few years. It's about as dumb as if they'd announce "Women Watch Movies!", "Women Enjoy Driving!" or "Girls Read Books That Aren't About Kissing!"
2013-03-20 12:38:40 AM
1 votes:

CtrlAltDestroy: PanicMan: Everyone I know under the age of 40 plays games, in one way or another.  And a few that are over.  Gender is not a factor.

Not me. But in either case, playing games and being a gamer are two different things. I like to go bowling every once in a while. But with frequency of doing so and my level of skill I wouldn't call myself a bowler.

And because this is Fark, keep your Scotsman stuff to yourself. Don't be "that guy" and you know damn well what I mean.


Gamer =/= occasional player of games.

IMO, a gamer is one who plays a lot of games, and frequently.
Hmm, since we're playing the analogue game..
Same way
A guy who marries his first love and has only had sex with her is not a womanizer.  He is also quite likely to have no idea what he's missing, may be married to a total super-biatch and be none the wiser.

Playing Mini golf does not make you a golfer.
Playing guitar hero does not make one a musician.
Driving a vehicle with a manual transmission does not make you a professional racecar driver.  It's a hatchback dude, give it up already.
Playing with Legos(awesome as it is) does not make one an Architect.


You've got to play enough games(and know the mechanics well) within a genre to be able to make an informed decision based on your tastes and the merits and flaws of a variety of games.

As some say, WoW has a huge following, but that's the first and last game many of those people will ever play.

I laugh when gamer friends and family are all talking about various games, and some random non gamer keeps bringing up about WoW because that's all he's ever known, well, besides angry birds and farmville and sudoku.

You know who does that?  Children.

No offense to WoW players that are possibly fledgling gamers, but I strongly encourage that you expand your horizons asap.  There are hundreds of games out there that won't suck the life out of you.

No offense to people that don't want to move on.  Sometimes you get lucky and WoW is perfect, or you don't have time to move on to other games.

No offense, but you are not gamers. The beauty in it is that you don't have to be.  Gamers are no better than anyone else.  Sure, same with all groups, you get elitist assholes, but no more here than anyone else.  Having played more games is not a status symbol of any sort.  Being a gamer only represents the ability to engage others on a wide variety of games.  That's it.

The only reason a lot of gamers take issue with non-gamers, is that, in my mind, when non gamers use games for small talk.  It's akin to saying "Hot enough for ya'?" No, I'd prefer it be over 110, god damn morons.

YMMV, but small talk like that is a pet peeve, more so when it comes to a hobby I actually take interest in.  I have some "almost" gamers in my family.  They play a lot of games, but never really get to know them.  They may be in the middle of a discussion about the game, and the mere whisper of anything else from someone in the background and it's as if the house caught on fire, couldn't care less about gaming at that point in time.  Boom, off to watch a movie, or step out side or anything, as if they were saved from talking about video games, oh the horror.

THAT is what bugs me about a lot of people that call themselves gamers who really aren't, and why I like to make the distinction.  They simply don't care, but like the geek chic image it gives them, to them it is a status thing almost.  They can brainlessly play a game like people turn into zombies and fall asleep with the tv on.

If you're not interested in talking about other games, don't horn in on the discussion just to desert it the second something else comes up.  That's not being a gamer, that's being very lonely and needy.

/rant

My bad, just got to rolling and it went.
Well, I finished my snack..about 5 minutes ago, back to Skyrim.
2013-03-19 10:52:13 PM
1 votes:

Cyno01: spamdog: Jim_Callahan: There's a reason why the 'straight healer' meta-design is being phased out entirely

To me the appeal of the healer was the things you could do to support your group beyond just healing. CC, debuffs, doing some extra damage.
They seem to understand that the tank has a role in doing extra damage too, but there doesn't seem to be much space for healers to do extra damage yet.

I know firsthand that healing shaman in wow regen mana from dealing damage (telluric currents), i think theres also something that a DoT (flame shock) will proc increased healing throughput. I switched to ele since mists though, so i could be wrong. Im pretty sure that sort of thing is one of the design focuses behind the Monk class, and im 99% sure Disc Priests and Palys have their own damage into healing things.


Death knight blood tanks are also awesome healers.

I ran death strike + rune tap (+glyph) and would keep my entire party alive during safety dance.
2013-03-19 09:34:46 PM
1 votes:

IrishFarmer: The 'Women are playing more games' story is stupid because, who cares the proportion of people playing games?


No, informed society members know and don't care.  We are still the minority for now.  The "news" is not for us, hell, most of us don't even watch TV(Fark geek/hipster trope)..

You people place far too much faith in the unwashed masses, far too optimistic of their views of women and video games.

Does anyone not recall very recent blaming of video games(yet again) for acts of violence?  There are a LOT of people who buy into that bullshiat.  We almost need lighthearted news just to not scrape by the skin of our teeth when some lump of old conservatives decide they want to do something about these evil video games.

We even see many Democrats call into question violent video games(as did a tacky reporter in the video).  These are people "we" elected, regardless of party because all parties have some of this nonesense.

Also, as far as the point I "missed"

ZeroCrpse: EVERYONE has been playing video games since the late 1970s and early 1980s


ZeroCrpse: Everybody played these video games


See the absolutes?  Sure, "many" even "lots" of people were in arcades.  All of them?  Not so much.

Even today there is a "video games are for kids" mentality floating around.  Of course, some of that is largely dependent on where you live, so I can't blame you for not having exposure if that's the case.  That is why I went on about how one's experiences aren't the limit to the variety out there, not even necessarily indicative of a tendency.

We live in a society where people still rally in large numbers to the cause of barring vaccines because they cause autism, holocaust deniers, think gay marriage should be illegal, people who are racist, or think women's vagina's should be regulated, etc etc etc, and you all are going to defend the populace as a whole for being more up to date and in general, being sharper than I suggest....

I laugh at your terminal optimism.
2013-03-19 06:02:35 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: [oyster.ignimgs.com image 651x1500]

oblig.


Yeah pretty much that.  It's not like gamer girls are smashing some social barrier like the right to vote or equal pay.  Shut up and play the game.
2013-03-19 05:44:38 PM
1 votes:

LostInTO: My daughter loves to play Skyrim, although she plays it somewhat differently than I do.  I look at my armor stats, and figure out which armor is the best, and wear that.  Find better armor, wear it, sell the old armor.  She keeps multiple outfits in her inventory, and changes her characters clothes depending upon the circumstances.  Goes into town, puts on a nice outfit, Goes to a dungeon, and realizes she still wearing a dress and has to change clothes during combat...It's likes Barbies with swords for her.


I have several different sets of armor/clothes depending on what I'm doing, all have different stats and enchantments. I have several sets of armor, a mage outfit, a stealth outfit and if I'm just running around the village I wear regular clothes. I even have an outfit specifically for blacksmithing and another for alchemy. I think you'll find your daughter isn't alone on this, that's why they call them role playing games.
2013-03-19 03:31:59 PM
1 votes:

Inigo: [i.imgur.com image 671x367]


You'd think an earl would know the difference between 'to' and 'too'
2013-03-19 03:22:47 PM
1 votes:
Everyone I know under the age of 40 plays games, in one way or another.  And a few that are over.  Gender is not a factor.
2013-03-19 03:03:24 PM
1 votes:
Pixiest:

Don't you ever farking heal my raid.

Healing takes constant attention because the deeps always farking stand in the farking fire/poison/whatever. And the Tank always gets some burst damage from the mob which will kill him unless you're watching with your finger on the button.

/Plays WoW and many other games
//Yes, I'm usually the healer
///Yes, I'm a woman


You.  I like you.  Another woman healer here; I do it because I'm a contentious asshole that likes to have an excuse to drink.  I mentored my first healer with two other healers (dudes) in Burning Crusade and somewhere in there, I learned the most valuable piece of wisdom that carries me and my contentiousness to this day: As a healer, the boss of any fight isn't the giant farking thing the team is whaling on, it's your own farking raid.

I love healing, I genuinely do.  I've tanked, I've DPS'd, I always go back to healing.  On a good fight, there's nothing more complicated and it's always the healers cleaning up your shiat.
2013-03-19 02:49:36 PM
1 votes:

LostInTO: My daughter loves to play Skyrim, although she plays it somewhat differently than I do.  I look at my armor stats, and figure out which armor is the best, and wear that.  Find better armor, wear it, sell the old armor.  She keeps multiple outfits in her inventory, and changes her characters clothes depending upon the circumstances.  Goes into town, puts on a nice outfit, Goes to a dungeon, and realizes she still wearing a dress and has to change clothes during combat...It's likes Barbies with swords for her.


I do that in Skyrim just so I can laugh at myself for playing like a kid.  Wore the cooks outfit for the entire assassin's guild mission where you pretended to be a famous cook to assassinate the...well, no spoilers, but you get the idea.

Then again, I used to pen and paper role play, so getting into character can be fun, if ridiculous.
2013-03-19 02:48:30 PM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Giltric: There was some sort of study done by a student that talked about how alot of guilds are run by husband/wife or bf/gf teams. The male usually taking the tank role and the woman almost always being the healer.

Studies are usually pretty restricted to WoW, and thus not really valid for "gamers" as a whole (many WoW players don't actually play games in general, just WoW).

Also, speaking as someone that usually got stuck playing the healer, that association of women with healers is... rather incredibly uncomplimentary, actually.  It's kind of the role where you can set at most a couple targets and a few hotkeys and watch TV on another monitor while you do your part in the raid.


Don't you ever farking heal my raid.

Healing takes constant attention because the deeps always farking stand in the farking fire/poison/whatever. And the Tank always gets some burst damage from the mob which will kill him unless you're watching with your finger on the button.

/Plays WoW and many other games
//Yes, I'm usually the healer
///Yes, I'm a woman
2013-03-19 02:26:13 PM
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: This. Any guy I've seen running around playing a healer is usually a bit odd(not the character, the guy at the controls).


I've known several healers, male and female. Haven't really noticed any significant difference. Not sure what the overall average is regarding this.
2013-03-19 02:17:29 PM
1 votes:

stuhayes2010: The reality:
Lt. Cheese Weasel: [images.inquisitr.com image 500x375]

Hot gamer chick thread, I can haz.

The Dream:
[images.inquisitr.com image 500x375]
The reality:
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cache.g4tv.com

Aisha Tyler (of Archer fame) would like a word with you

From her Facebook:

I play.

I've played since I was a little kid.
Since I begged my dad to buy me a Nintendo LCD Donkey Kong, Jr.
Since I blew through three weeks' allowance playing Defender at the laundromat.
Since you were a twinge in the left side of your daddy's underoos.

I've been a gamer since I made friends with a girl in the 5th grade just to get at her Atari.
Since I missed the bus playing Galaga after school.
Since I missed the start of Return of the Jedi playing Tempest in the theater lobby.

You think you know. You don't know.

I've been a gamer since before you could read.
Since I aced midterms after staying up all night playing Evil Tetris.
Since I became dorm champ at Leisure Suit Larry.
Since I double-wielded on Time Crisis 3 at Fuddrucker's.

I was a voice in not one, but two major video game titles.
I hosted the Reach Beta tutorial.
I was a Gears of War superfan panelist at ComicCon.
I hosted the Ubisoft presser at E3 2012.
I didn't do any of it for the money.
For most I got paid next to nothing, and for some, less than that.

I did it because I love video games.
Because I've dreamt since I was a kid of being in one of the games I love.
How many games have you done voices for?
How many cons have you repped at?
Your buddy's Unreal Tournament garage deathmatch doesn't count.

I go to E3 each year because I love video games.
Because new titles still get me high.
Because I still love getting swag.
Love wearing my gamer pride on my sleeve.
People ask me what console I play.
Motherfarker, ALL of them.

I get invited to E3 because real gamers know I'm a gamer.
I don't do it for the money.
I have plenty of money.
I don't do it for the fame.
fark fame.
I do it because I love video games.

I don't give out my gamertag because I don't want a mess of noob jackholes lining up
to assassinate me on XBL.
I don't give a shiat what you think about my gamerscore.
I don't play to prove a point.
I don't play to be the best.
I play because I love it.

I play.
I've been playing my whole life.
I'm not ashamed of it.
I don't apologize for it.
It's who I am.
To the core.
I'm a gamer.

So to all the haters out there who claim I don't play;
To the GAF dicks,
Gamespot trolls,
To every illiterate racist douchebag on Youtube:
Flame away. Go nuts.
Post every jackass comment your heart desires.
I'll still be playing when your mom's kicked you out of her basement
and you have to sell your old-ass console
and get a real job.

For now, I say to you respectfully,
and I mean this from the bottom of my heart,
GFYS.
2013-03-19 01:31:43 PM
1 votes:
images.inquisitr.com

Hot gamer chick thread, I can haz.
2013-03-19 12:38:41 PM
1 votes:
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