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2013-03-19 05:29:08 PM

HallsOfMandos: My priest had a macro so that whenever I cast Fade I also did the /helpme emote.


Play Disc and macro smite with a /yell of BY THE POWER OF CHRIST I COMPEL THEE! They will love you.
 
2013-03-19 05:31:09 PM

Girl Pants: Good. Now can we stop linking entertainment preferences with a whole load of stereotypes and smug bigotry?

If someone claims to enjoy a form of entertainment, there should only be 1 of 2 replies:

1. Oh, I do that too, maybe we can do that together sometime.
2. Oh, I don't do that but it's cool you find it fun.

We really need to move past the idea that "Oh, you like X, then you MUST be this 1D character".


/yes, with obvious exceptions to people who call murder, arson, etc their entertainment.


3. Oh, I do that too, maybe we ca- wait, what faction do yo- DIE SCUM!
 
2013-03-19 05:43:19 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Giltric: Women, possibly effeminate male types, gravitate towards the nurturing classes. Has something to do with the natural caregiver instincts of the female half of the two genders.

When i last played WoW i went healer just because it took 8 people to kill them in PvP.

/PvP balance in that game is a joke


Yeah part of the problem with PVP balance in raid type PVE games is that the healers are built to keep a group of people alive.
 
2013-03-19 05:44:38 PM

LostInTO: My daughter loves to play Skyrim, although she plays it somewhat differently than I do.  I look at my armor stats, and figure out which armor is the best, and wear that.  Find better armor, wear it, sell the old armor.  She keeps multiple outfits in her inventory, and changes her characters clothes depending upon the circumstances.  Goes into town, puts on a nice outfit, Goes to a dungeon, and realizes she still wearing a dress and has to change clothes during combat...It's likes Barbies with swords for her.


I have several different sets of armor/clothes depending on what I'm doing, all have different stats and enchantments. I have several sets of armor, a mage outfit, a stealth outfit and if I'm just running around the village I wear regular clothes. I even have an outfit specifically for blacksmithing and another for alchemy. I think you'll find your daughter isn't alone on this, that's why they call them role playing games.
 
2013-03-19 05:47:22 PM

Girl Pants: Good. Now can we stop linking entertainment preferences with a whole load of stereotypes and smug bigotry?


No, because there will always be some truth to it in some way or another, a minority of people will always take that too far and say things they shouldn't be so confident about.

Statistics and psychology...

*shrugs*
 
2013-03-19 05:54:11 PM

SultanofSchwing: I had an ex a long long time ago who was into video games and web culture and shiat like that, very artsy, did graphics and whatever.  Got irritating that she felt she had to remind me that she was "so nerdy" and a "gamer girl."

Luck would have it she was also a whore and a slut which made getting rid of that nightmare incredibly simple.


I think we dated the same scumbag.
 
2013-03-19 05:55:28 PM
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2013-03-19 05:55:44 PM
oyster.ignimgs.com

oblig.
 
2013-03-19 05:56:47 PM

LostInTO: My daughter loves to play Skyrim, although she plays it somewhat differently than I do.  I look at my armor stats, and figure out which armor is the best, and wear that.  Find better armor, wear it, sell the old armor.  She keeps multiple outfits in her inventory, and changes her characters clothes depending upon the circumstances.  Goes into town, puts on a nice outfit, Goes to a dungeon, and realizes she still wearing a dress and has to change clothes during combat...It's likes Barbies with swords for her.


I thought in one of the elder games (morrowind or oblivion) what you wore would affect your speechcraft or how other npc liked you. If you wore rich clothing they liked you better than if you were in rags.
Maybe it was a core mod that added this though.
 
2013-03-19 06:01:40 PM
Egoy3k:

My wife and I used to play COD on xbox live with another couple pretty regularly. We would encounter this often. Once my wife said something and some twit was astounded, so the other woman in the group said something and blew his mind. TWO girls! It's really fun when they start trolling to women too. See despite the bad rap that most COD players get at least half of them aren't complete morons and will dog-pile on the idiot kids.  It's not really even a matter of being a good community everyone hated 13 year old kids, and anyone making fun of girls was showing their youth.

Heh, the wife of one of my PSN buddies is a member of a pretty hardcore COD clan and they take a lot of pleasure in gang-stomping anybody who starts that kind of nonsense with her.
 
2013-03-19 06:02:35 PM

WhippingBoy: [oyster.ignimgs.com image 651x1500]

oblig.


Yeah pretty much that.  It's not like gamer girls are smashing some social barrier like the right to vote or equal pay.  Shut up and play the game.
 
2013-03-19 06:08:16 PM

andrewabc: LostInTO: My daughter loves to play Skyrim, although she plays it somewhat differently than I do.  I look at my armor stats, and figure out which armor is the best, and wear that.  Find better armor, wear it, sell the old armor.  She keeps multiple outfits in her inventory, and changes her characters clothes depending upon the circumstances.  Goes into town, puts on a nice outfit, Goes to a dungeon, and realizes she still wearing a dress and has to change clothes during combat...It's likes Barbies with swords for her.

I thought in one of the elder games (morrowind or oblivion) what you wore would affect your speechcraft or how other npc liked you. If you wore rich clothing they liked you better than if you were in rags.
Maybe it was a core mod that added this though.


A lot of games have had that. I know the biatch clothing saleswoman in Skyrim would be a lot nicer to you if you were wearing the clothing she sold, otherwise she would treat you like dirt (unless you were of the same race). They mostly worked on what race you were though.

Fallout: New Vegas had faction armor that would give you approval ratings for wearing their gear around them, but would also get you immediately shot at in other places (like wearing NCR armor around Caesar's legion).
 
2013-03-19 06:10:59 PM

PillsHere: Then I played WoW and the first woman I encountered in a raid guild manipulated the leader into letting her always be part of the raid despite her being the worst healer I've ever seen and then would cause him to rage log on the raid almost every week.  Then I really vowed to never deal with women in guilds again and the entire core of the guild left that guild and formed our own and we were awesome.I'm really not trying to be a betrayer of my gender, but in my experience they cause a lot of drama.  Not all of course, but the loudest/worst ones make us all look bad.


Ive been playing WoW for going on 7 years now. Ive known a lot of women in the game, many competent players. Ive also known a handful who were terrible players but still got invited to raids because they sent naked pictures to the GM. The few who wield their gender as an advantage "I just posted some pics from the beach on the guild forums, who wants to run me through a few dungeons? Teehee." give the rest a very bad name. Ive had guilds break up over scheduling conflicts, lack of interest, various things, its generally amicable. Ive never had a guild break up from drama that wasnt caused and perpetuated by the women.

"Well, im sorry youre not geared enough for naxx with the rest of us, but were not at the point we can carry anyone yet. Uh, no we cant/wont run you through dungeons during the day, we all play at night because the rest of us arent bored housewives. No were not going to run you through dungeons instead of raiding, if you want in, PUG stuff. No its not because youre a woman... Yes the young flirty girl gets people to run her through dungeons, no, i cant make anyone do the same for you..." That biatch broke up a 3 year old guild in the course of a few weeks... still bitter.
 
2013-03-19 06:15:22 PM

SultanofSchwing: I had an ex a long long time ago who was into video games and web culture and shiat like that, very artsy, did graphics and whatever.  Got irritating that she felt she had to remind me that she was "so nerdy" and a "gamer girl."

Luck would have it she was also a whore and a slut which made getting rid of that nightmare incredibly simple.


That pretty much describes most gamer girls. The drama that occurs when girls enter into the gaming circles is quite hilarious. They are either desperate whores, or whore, whores. We had 2 actual pornstars in our guild in WoW, back when Top 10 US meant something. Oh the stories and how fun vent was.
 
2013-03-19 06:21:44 PM

the money is in the banana stand: SultanofSchwing: I had an ex a long long time ago who was into video games and web culture and shiat like that, very artsy, did graphics and whatever.  Got irritating that she felt she had to remind me that she was "so nerdy" and a "gamer girl."

Luck would have it she was also a whore and a slut which made getting rid of that nightmare incredibly simple.

That pretty much describes most gamer girls. The drama that occurs when girls enter into the gaming circles is quite hilarious. They are either desperate whores, or whore, whores. We had 2 actual pornstars in our guild in WoW, back when Top 10 US meant something. Oh the stories and how fun vent was.




Am I the only one here that wouldn't mind playing video games with desperate whores?

/can't seem to find any whores that are into black ops, mass effect.
 
2013-03-19 06:27:47 PM

way south: the money is in the banana stand: SultanofSchwing: I had an ex a long long time ago who was into video games and web culture and shiat like that, very artsy, did graphics and whatever.  Got irritating that she felt she had to remind me that she was "so nerdy" and a "gamer girl."

Luck would have it she was also a whore and a slut which made getting rid of that nightmare incredibly simple.

That pretty much describes most gamer girls. The drama that occurs when girls enter into the gaming circles is quite hilarious. They are either desperate whores, or whore, whores. We had 2 actual pornstars in our guild in WoW, back when Top 10 US meant something. Oh the stories and how fun vent was.

Am I the only one here that wouldn't mind playing video games with desperate whores?

/can't seem to find any whores that are into black ops, mass effect.


Well to clarify I meant "whore" as in "cheating whore."  There's rarely "good whores" in the flock, but there might be.  Then there's a good subsection of normal ones.  The remainder are typically hose beasts or incredibly volatile.
 
2013-03-19 06:38:01 PM

MrEricSir: Breaking news: most video games don't require a penis


They...they don't? Jesus, I wish someone would tell me what this thing is for cause I'm totally clueless at this point.
 
2013-03-19 06:54:45 PM

WhippingBoy: [oyster.ignimgs.com image 651x1500]

oblig.


If you're feeling a bit cruel and like stoking fires, a simple, "huh, didn't notice; you sound like a dude" would probably work well.

MrEricSir: Breaking news: most video games don't require a penis


Well, there was a company that created an abomination that looks like a PS Move mated with a fleshlight. Stuff of nightmares, that one.
 
2013-03-19 07:03:12 PM

YodaBlues: MrEricSir: Breaking news: most video games don't require a penis

They...they don't? Jesus, I wish someone would tell me what this thing is for cause I'm totally clueless at this point.


it's a joystick for some one else to use to play you
 
2013-03-19 07:03:28 PM
OLD NEWS.

EVERYONE has been playing video games since the late 1970s and early 1980s. We used to have these places called "arcades", and in these "arcades" they had all sorts of video games. Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, Super Pac-Man, Pac-Man Jr., Asteroids, Space Invaders, Centipede, Millipede, Q*Bert, Dig Dug, Galaga, Vanguard, Bag Man, Super Bag Man, Joust, Dragon's Lair, Pole Position, Donkey Kong, Space War, Mr. Do, Donkey Kong Jr., Mario Bros., Zaxxon, Amidar, Pooyan, Bubble Bobble, Mappy, Mappyland, Crystal Castles, Berserk, Elevator Action, Duck Hunt, Wild Gunman, Tapper, Qix, Tron, Gorf, Wizard of Wor, Venture, and many, many more.

At these "arcades", people of all ages and genders would put round shiny things called "quarters" or sometimes "tokens" into these video games. Boys, girls, men, women, transvestites, transsexuals... Everybody played these video games... And they kept on playing them at home. Pong, Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Odyssey2, Intellivision, Colecovision, Nintendo Entertainment System, Sega Master System, Gameboy, and on and on. People kept playing these games.

Why, there were even hit songs on the radio about video games (Pac-Man Fever), and movies in the theaters about them, too!

When tablets, home computers, cell phones, and handheld gaming systems became popular, people kept playing these games. Men, Women, children. All ages. All sexual orientations. All shoe sizes.

Video games have been popular, mainstream entertainment since the late 1970s. By the 1990s they started made more money than Hollywood movies-- Another mainstream form of entertainment.

Girls playing video games is not remarkable or new. Your mom and grandma play video games. Your boring aunt plays video games. Unless they have some moral opposition to video games, most people in America play video games at least sometimes.

I do not understand why this "news" keeps coming up every few years. It's about as dumb as if they'd announce "Women Watch Movies!", "Women Enjoy Driving!" or "Girls Read Books That Aren't About Kissing!"
 
2013-03-19 07:03:32 PM

SultanofSchwing: Well to clarify I meant "whore" as in "cheating whore."  There's rarely "good whores" in the flock, but there might be.  Then there's a good subsection of normal ones.  The remainder are typically hose beasts or incredibly volatile.


Depends on one's wallet.  With the size of mine, there are no good whores.  Sluts on the other hand, being free and all....

Yes please.

YodaBlues: MrEricSir: Breaking news: most video games don't require a penis

They...they don't? Jesus, I wish someone would tell me what this thing is for cause I'm totally clueless at this point.


Many games may as well, as they do require a competitive streak that tends to reside more in people who have a penis as part of their anatomy and the relevant hormones.

That said, competitive chicks are HOT, and as it ties in above, often slutty in my experience.  Indeed, studies show that couples that participate in stimulating activities (sports/rides) are more....stimulated in other areas as well.
 
2013-03-19 07:08:33 PM

ZeroCorpse: I do not understand why this "news" keeps coming up every few years. It's about as dumb as if they'd announce "Women Watch Movies!"


Not really, a great portion of society still looks down on adults who play games in general, and women more so.

A news story oft repeated drills it in that it's perfectly ok for girls to play games.  There is a purpose to be served.

As much as you'd like to pretend otherwise, people who disagree with you and/or are less informed than you do still exist.
 
2013-03-19 07:21:09 PM

omeganuepsilon: ZeroCorpse: I do not understand why this "news" keeps coming up every few years. It's about as dumb as if they'd announce "Women Watch Movies!"

Not really, a great portion of society still looks down on adults who play games in general, and women more so.

A news story oft repeated drills it in that it's perfectly ok for girls to play games.  There is a purpose to be served.

As much as you'd like to pretend otherwise, people who disagree with you and/or are less informed than you do still exist.



I was there in the arcades. I've seen adults of almost every social class playing video games. I've seen adults playing video games in bars, too, with little social stigma. Places like Dave & Busters STILL exist to cater to the adults who want to play a variety of video and arcade games, and they're quite popular.

arcadeheroes.com

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Women, men, different ages... GASP! What pariahs they must have been !!!!
 
2013-03-19 07:31:56 PM
Oh, stop being a dipshiat.

Like I said, there are OTHER people who don't know.  That's who the "news" is for.  there exists a large population of people who's only real exposure to the world around them consists of the "news".  That's why it's called news, because for most people who see it, it is...ready for this...NEW.

If you know better, congrats, you've achieved being average, indeed, you may dip far below it in some areas, like intelligence and social skills.  You should be proud, you've come a long ways since you stopped trying to touch everyone in the arcade with your willy.

Come back next week sparky, maybe I can get some other people to help out, but I think we can teach you basic single digit addition, maybe explain how people other than you know things that you do not.  who know's, maybe by the time you are old enough to collect social security you'll not only be self aware, but recognize the fact that other people exist and live entirely different lives than yours.  The sky is the limit!

/or not  I don't have that much faith in fark's teaching ability.
 
2013-03-19 07:36:22 PM
I had an ex that I thought would be interesting because she said she liked video games and wanted to play against me in SC4 (note I hate fighting games in general).

With the biggest handicap (me with lowest health, her with highest), I still killed her every match.

Then she got in a huge fight with me cause I told her friends where one of the hidden treasures in GoW3 was, WHILE THEY WERE READING DIRECTLY FROM THE PRIMA GUIDE.

It didn't last very long.
 
2013-03-19 07:46:55 PM

hammer85: I had an ex that I thought would be interesting because she said she liked video games and wanted to play against me in SC4 (note I hate fighting games in general).

With the biggest handicap (me with lowest health, her with highest), I still killed her every match.

Then she got in a huge fight with me cause I told her friends where one of the hidden treasures in GoW3 was, WHILE THEY WERE READING DIRECTLY FROM THE PRIMA GUIDE.

It didn't last very long.


I mentioned competitive women above.  What you had was not a competitive woman, but a woman who expected to win.  There's a huge difference between the two.
 
2013-03-19 07:51:11 PM

hammer85: I had an ex that I thought would be interesting because she said she liked video games and wanted to play against me in SC4 (note I hate fighting games in general).

With the biggest handicap (me with lowest health, her with highest), I still killed her every match.

Then she got in a huge fight with me cause I told her friends where one of the hidden treasures in GoW3 was, WHILE THEY WERE READING DIRECTLY FROM THE PRIMA GUIDE.

It didn't last very long.


It's the rule rather than the exception.  In online gaming, no one should know the person's gender, only that they are good or bad.  Problem is girls love to attract attention to the fact that they are girls.  Why?  Because it allows them to manipulate others for their own benefit.
 
2013-03-19 07:54:35 PM
Possibly relevant CSB?

When I play an MMO I usually pick up a healer/tank class, because the easiest way to get a group is to...heal. DPS is ok, but there are billions of them, they're interchangable. Tanking is actual work, have to know where you're going, etc. So I heal. Because I'm lazy and it's the easiest way to get a group in most games that don't have decent cross-server LFG tools. It's not because I particularly love being support, it's just easy.

I do tend to pick the paladin types though, high armor/HP and healing over burst damage, but I hate dieing.
 
2013-03-19 07:56:33 PM
We have a lot of women  in my Rift guild including two Australian women. Only one is a healer and none cause any drama. But then we are mostly over 25 which may play a part.
 
2013-03-19 08:21:55 PM
To hell with that MMO crap. I want a woman who can play Contra with me without stealing my lives.
 
2013-03-19 08:38:29 PM

omeganuepsilon: hammer85: I had an ex that I thought would be interesting because she said she liked video games and wanted to play against me in SC4 (note I hate fighting games in general).

With the biggest handicap (me with lowest health, her with highest), I still killed her every match.

Then she got in a huge fight with me cause I told her friends where one of the hidden treasures in GoW3 was, WHILE THEY WERE READING DIRECTLY FROM THE PRIMA GUIDE.

It didn't last very long.

I mentioned competitive women above.  What you had was not a competitive woman, but a woman who expected to win.  There's a huge difference between the two.


You know, I fully intended to let her win like I do occasionally with my wife, but she kept talking so much shiat that I just had to bury her.


Also, in the mmo world, the best healer I've ever seen was a chick, the best boom kin also was a girl, and I was their tank protector who would pretend to be them when puggers started getting lewd.

Also created the guild drama by causing a breakup between the gm and his gf, then sleeping with said gf, and then promptly getting kicked out of the guild, taking half of it with me.

I'd like to say it was worth it. But it wasn't.
 
2013-03-19 08:39:47 PM
Click on my profile and scroll down.  The cute red-head is an avid video gamer.
 
2013-03-19 08:58:49 PM

omeganuepsilon: Oh, stop being a dipshiat.

Like I said, there are OTHER people who don't know.  That's who the "news" is for.  there exists a large population of people who's only real exposure to the world around them consists of the "news".  That's why it's called news, because for most people who see it, it is...ready for this...NEW.

/or not  I don't have that much faith in fark's teaching ability.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

He's spot-on and you're a dipshiat.
 
2013-03-19 08:59:51 PM
These pictures of arcades remind me that I must take a trip to Ground Kontrol in Portland, OR ASAP.
 
2013-03-19 09:01:41 PM

omeganuepsilon: Oh, stop being a dipshiat.

Like I said, there are OTHER people who don't know. That's who the "news" is for. there exists a large population of people who's only real exposure to the world around them consists of the "news". That's why it's called news, because for most people who see it, it is...ready for this...NEW.


I think you're missing the point, chief.  It's that even if someone doesn't know about this, it still makes the news look ridiculous.  It's just not a story, and they chose to frame it in the stupidest possible way.  The 'Women are playing more games' story is stupid because, who cares the proportion of people playing games?  It's stupid because women have always been a pretty decent percentage of gamers.  And it's stupid because more men, and more of every demographic, are playing games.  They're trumping this up like there's something special about it, and there just isn't.

This isn't news, it's just a cheap ploy for ratings like most of the rest of the news.  They're lazily playing to stereotypes.  So besides being stupid, it's also a little annoying and pandering.
 
2013-03-19 09:15:35 PM
Dear Aisha Tyler,

Nice poem there. But I don't understand one part. "Since I became dorm champ at Leisure Suit Larry. " Hmmmm. I never knew that LSL was a competitive game to become 'dorm champ'at?

/you still are an attention whore
/don't care if you are a 'gamer'
 
2013-03-19 09:34:46 PM

IrishFarmer: The 'Women are playing more games' story is stupid because, who cares the proportion of people playing games?


No, informed society members know and don't care.  We are still the minority for now.  The "news" is not for us, hell, most of us don't even watch TV(Fark geek/hipster trope)..

You people place far too much faith in the unwashed masses, far too optimistic of their views of women and video games.

Does anyone not recall very recent blaming of video games(yet again) for acts of violence?  There are a LOT of people who buy into that bullshiat.  We almost need lighthearted news just to not scrape by the skin of our teeth when some lump of old conservatives decide they want to do something about these evil video games.

We even see many Democrats call into question violent video games(as did a tacky reporter in the video).  These are people "we" elected, regardless of party because all parties have some of this nonesense.

Also, as far as the point I "missed"

ZeroCrpse: EVERYONE has been playing video games since the late 1970s and early 1980s


ZeroCrpse: Everybody played these video games


See the absolutes?  Sure, "many" even "lots" of people were in arcades.  All of them?  Not so much.

Even today there is a "video games are for kids" mentality floating around.  Of course, some of that is largely dependent on where you live, so I can't blame you for not having exposure if that's the case.  That is why I went on about how one's experiences aren't the limit to the variety out there, not even necessarily indicative of a tendency.

We live in a society where people still rally in large numbers to the cause of barring vaccines because they cause autism, holocaust deniers, think gay marriage should be illegal, people who are racist, or think women's vagina's should be regulated, etc etc etc, and you all are going to defend the populace as a whole for being more up to date and in general, being sharper than I suggest....

I laugh at your terminal optimism.
 
2013-03-19 09:38:22 PM
 
2013-03-19 09:45:18 PM

Pixiest: Healing takes constant attention because the deeps always farking stand in the farking fire/poison/whatever. And the Tank always gets some burst damage from the mob which will kill him unless you're watching with your finger on the button.


Maybe you're just... bad?

I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that, room for all kinds in social games.

Or potentially your teammates are bad, that can do it too.  We used to intentionally invite some girl's kid brother to be the third healer on our raids just to give us something to do (he could somehow take damage even in single-target encounters where the tank had control, and he healed like a first-expansion druid despite WoW being on expansion four at that point).

It... it takes a lot of fail to overcome the sheer number-to-number advantage that healing has over PvE damage in the vast majority of MMOs, though.  WoW especially, you can essentially (or, depending on patch number, sometimes literally) render one target almost entirely invulnerable while not decreasing your output on another.  There's a reason why the 'straight healer' meta-design is being phased out entirely in modern MMOs like GW2 or Rifts in favor of hybridized restoration mechanics and map squad games like LoL base the support meta on crowd control and active buffs, the healer thing is far too simplistic to be all that much fun beyond the entertainment value of your group steamrolling another in PvP situations where your opponents don't have one, and that wears thin pretty fast.

//This is the running beef I had with WoW's game design that caused me to quite in spurts and then permanently, if that's not obvious from the rantiness.  I understand the accessibility concerns where they didn't want a priest dropping the ball or being new to ruin the game for everyone else, but that doesn't excuse how absurdly overpowered my priest, who wasn't even specced for healing until dual-spec became a thing, was in PvE since basically launch.
 
2013-03-19 10:06:43 PM

Jim_Callahan: There's a reason why the 'straight healer' meta-design is being phased out entirely


To me the appeal of the healer was the things you could do to support your group beyond just healing. CC, debuffs, doing some extra damage.
They seem to understand that the tank has a role in doing extra damage too, but there doesn't seem to be much space for healers to do extra damage yet.
 
2013-03-19 10:34:02 PM

spamdog: Jim_Callahan: There's a reason why the 'straight healer' meta-design is being phased out entirely

To me the appeal of the healer was the things you could do to support your group beyond just healing. CC, debuffs, doing some extra damage.
They seem to understand that the tank has a role in doing extra damage too, but there doesn't seem to be much space for healers to do extra damage yet.


What I saw with Rifts did it ok.  I'm really tempted to finally buy it and sub for a while.  Most fun I'd had in an MMO since WoW released.

//I'll probably get GW2 though.
 
2013-03-19 10:34:27 PM

spamdog: Jim_Callahan: There's a reason why the 'straight healer' meta-design is being phased out entirely

To me the appeal of the healer was the things you could do to support your group beyond just healing. CC, debuffs, doing some extra damage.
They seem to understand that the tank has a role in doing extra damage too, but there doesn't seem to be much space for healers to do extra damage yet.


I know firsthand that healing shaman in wow regen mana from dealing damage (telluric currents), i think theres also something that a DoT (flame shock) will proc increased healing throughput. I switched to ele since mists though, so i could be wrong. Im pretty sure that sort of thing is one of the design focuses behind the Monk class, and im 99% sure Disc Priests and Palys have their own damage into healing things.
 
2013-03-19 10:40:53 PM

scottydoesntknow: Inigo: [i.imgur.com image 671x367]

You'd think an earl would know the difference between 'to' and 'too'


Earls aren't that bright.  They don't need to be; they just show up, and everyone tells them how great they are.

/they also can't parallel park worth a damn.
 
2013-03-19 10:52:13 PM

Cyno01: spamdog: Jim_Callahan: There's a reason why the 'straight healer' meta-design is being phased out entirely

To me the appeal of the healer was the things you could do to support your group beyond just healing. CC, debuffs, doing some extra damage.
They seem to understand that the tank has a role in doing extra damage too, but there doesn't seem to be much space for healers to do extra damage yet.

I know firsthand that healing shaman in wow regen mana from dealing damage (telluric currents), i think theres also something that a DoT (flame shock) will proc increased healing throughput. I switched to ele since mists though, so i could be wrong. Im pretty sure that sort of thing is one of the design focuses behind the Monk class, and im 99% sure Disc Priests and Palys have their own damage into healing things.


Death knight blood tanks are also awesome healers.

I ran death strike + rune tap (+glyph) and would keep my entire party alive during safety dance.
 
2013-03-19 11:15:23 PM
All of that and nothing about any specific girl gamers?  No Acer Scarlett or MegumixBear or anything like that?  Why not advertise some of the actually talented girl gamers instead of having a generic piece exclaiming what most gamers already knew about.
 
2013-03-19 11:29:39 PM

PanicMan: Everyone I know under the age of 40 plays games, in one way or another.  And a few that are over.  Gender is not a factor.


Not me. But in either case, playing games and being a gamer are two different things. I like to go bowling every once in a while. But with frequency of doing so and my level of skill I wouldn't call myself a bowler.

And because this is Fark, keep your Scotsman stuff to yourself. Don't be "that guy" and you know damn well what I mean.
 
2013-03-19 11:40:12 PM
In WoW I do all 3 roles. When leveling I tend to tank or heal because getting groups is faster. Also, so many tanks and healbots are awful. "You suck, I'll just do it myself", basically. I have 4 tanks and 3 healers. I get regular compliments for both roles. Green-bar-whack-a-mole can be fun but it's usually fairly uninteresting.

I love it when girls are gamers who can match me. Sitting next to a girl who can match or beat me in games is, to be honest, attractive. You like Tetris and The Sims? Kinda cool. You can match me kill for kill in Halo and Smash Bros? Hot. It's too bad that girls like that are rare as hell and are even more rarely single. Blah.
 
2013-03-20 12:04:17 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: And because this is Fark, keep your Scotsman stuff to yourself. Don't be "that guy" and you know damn well what I mean.


By the way, that wasn't directed at you, PanicMan. Just people in general. Mea culpa.
 
2013-03-20 12:23:17 AM

omeganuepsilon: LostInTO: My daughter loves to play Skyrim, although she plays it somewhat differently than I do.  I look at my armor stats, and figure out which armor is the best, and wear that.  Find better armor, wear it, sell the old armor.  She keeps multiple outfits in her inventory, and changes her characters clothes depending upon the circumstances.  Goes into town, puts on a nice outfit, Goes to a dungeon, and realizes she still wearing a dress and has to change clothes during combat...It's likes Barbies with swords for her.

I do that in Skyrim just so I can laugh at myself for playing like a kid.  Wore the cooks outfit for the entire assassin's guild mission where you pretended to be a famous cook to assassinate the...well, no spoilers, but you get the idea.

Then again, I used to pen and paper role play, so getting into character can be fun, if ridiculous.


I don't understand.  You mean, there are people that DON'T wear a chef outfit for that?  Where's the fun in that?
 
2013-03-20 12:38:40 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: PanicMan: Everyone I know under the age of 40 plays games, in one way or another.  And a few that are over.  Gender is not a factor.

Not me. But in either case, playing games and being a gamer are two different things. I like to go bowling every once in a while. But with frequency of doing so and my level of skill I wouldn't call myself a bowler.

And because this is Fark, keep your Scotsman stuff to yourself. Don't be "that guy" and you know damn well what I mean.


Gamer =/= occasional player of games.

IMO, a gamer is one who plays a lot of games, and frequently.
Hmm, since we're playing the analogue game..
Same way
A guy who marries his first love and has only had sex with her is not a womanizer.  He is also quite likely to have no idea what he's missing, may be married to a total super-biatch and be none the wiser.

Playing Mini golf does not make you a golfer.
Playing guitar hero does not make one a musician.
Driving a vehicle with a manual transmission does not make you a professional racecar driver.  It's a hatchback dude, give it up already.
Playing with Legos(awesome as it is) does not make one an Architect.


You've got to play enough games(and know the mechanics well) within a genre to be able to make an informed decision based on your tastes and the merits and flaws of a variety of games.

As some say, WoW has a huge following, but that's the first and last game many of those people will ever play.

I laugh when gamer friends and family are all talking about various games, and some random non gamer keeps bringing up about WoW because that's all he's ever known, well, besides angry birds and farmville and sudoku.

You know who does that?  Children.

No offense to WoW players that are possibly fledgling gamers, but I strongly encourage that you expand your horizons asap.  There are hundreds of games out there that won't suck the life out of you.

No offense to people that don't want to move on.  Sometimes you get lucky and WoW is perfect, or you don't have time to move on to other games.

No offense, but you are not gamers. The beauty in it is that you don't have to be.  Gamers are no better than anyone else.  Sure, same with all groups, you get elitist assholes, but no more here than anyone else.  Having played more games is not a status symbol of any sort.  Being a gamer only represents the ability to engage others on a wide variety of games.  That's it.

The only reason a lot of gamers take issue with non-gamers, is that, in my mind, when non gamers use games for small talk.  It's akin to saying "Hot enough for ya'?" No, I'd prefer it be over 110, god damn morons.

YMMV, but small talk like that is a pet peeve, more so when it comes to a hobby I actually take interest in.  I have some "almost" gamers in my family.  They play a lot of games, but never really get to know them.  They may be in the middle of a discussion about the game, and the mere whisper of anything else from someone in the background and it's as if the house caught on fire, couldn't care less about gaming at that point in time.  Boom, off to watch a movie, or step out side or anything, as if they were saved from talking about video games, oh the horror.

THAT is what bugs me about a lot of people that call themselves gamers who really aren't, and why I like to make the distinction.  They simply don't care, but like the geek chic image it gives them, to them it is a status thing almost.  They can brainlessly play a game like people turn into zombies and fall asleep with the tv on.

If you're not interested in talking about other games, don't horn in on the discussion just to desert it the second something else comes up.  That's not being a gamer, that's being very lonely and needy.

/rant

My bad, just got to rolling and it went.
Well, I finished my snack..about 5 minutes ago, back to Skyrim.
 
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