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(Cincinnati Enquirer)   The assault on the First Amendment continues as court rules that you can't falsely yell "Bingo" in a crowded bingo hall   (nky.cincinnati.com) divider line 99
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2013-03-19 11:53:29 AM
It's for your own safety.
 
2013-03-19 12:09:26 PM
languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu
 
2013-03-19 12:14:05 PM
If you ever got run over by a morbidly obese person in a hoveround, you would know this is for your own protection.
 
2013-03-19 12:16:30 PM
Oddly enough, "inciting to riot" is still an offense, and given some of the bingo halls I've been in, he's lucky to have escaped with his dignity and his skin intact. Bingo isn't played just by little old ladies.
 
2013-03-19 12:16:42 PM
24.media.tumblr.com

/that, oh....and "Ni!"
 
2013-03-19 12:17:37 PM
cache.reelz.com
 
2013-03-19 12:18:00 PM
Should have told them he had lost his dog.
 
2013-03-19 12:18:00 PM
Wow, that's a very poor ruling, and I hope that it get struck down.

Establishments can ban the guy, throw him out for good, but to charge him criminally is an abuse of the judicial system and is really quite unconstitutional, IMNSHO.
 
2013-03-19 12:18:45 PM
given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue
 
2013-03-19 12:19:47 PM

fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue


Ah. Belay my last. Missed that.
 
2013-03-19 12:20:11 PM

fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue


Wherever it happened, it's fraud.
 
2013-03-19 12:20:15 PM
Really people he was threatened with a $250 fine if he does it again in the next six months.  It's not like he is in jail or something.
 
2013-03-19 12:21:07 PM

FarkinHostile: Wow, that's a very poor ruling, and I hope that it get struck down.

Establishments can ban the guy, throw him out for good, but to charge him criminally is an abuse of the judicial system and is really quite unconstitutional, IMNSHO.


Exactly.  Mildly annoying people isn't the same as causing them danger.

What's next, can we charge the guy who yells, "And ONE" every single frigging drive to the basket, because we're disappointed the referees didn't call it?
 
2013-03-19 12:22:10 PM
And I thought having a drag queen shove candy down your throat was the worst bingo punishment.


/have also heard of forced donning of adult diapers as a false bingo punishment
 
2013-03-19 12:22:49 PM
As someone who went to a bingo hall and actually tried to have fun (before Mr. Poopypants behind us got all serious and called over the "manager").. I agree with the Weeners, It's for your own safety.  Crazy biatches know no age limits and Granny unloading her handbag over your head is no fun...
 
2013-03-19 12:22:49 PM
Can we do a cross reference to see how many times the 'Silly' tag coincides with a Cincinnati link?
 
2013-03-19 12:25:07 PM

FarkinHostile: fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue

Ah. Belay my last. Missed that.


Someone somewhere probably calls it "Upper Kentucky".
 
2013-03-19 12:25:27 PM

fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue


UK Kentucky?
 
2013-03-19 12:26:56 PM
there goes my tuesday night.
 
2013-03-19 12:28:31 PM
How do you get a little old Catholic lady to swear?

Call "Bingo!" before she can.

Old Catholic bingo joke...
 
2013-03-19 12:29:29 PM
If you make a false winning bid at an auction, what are the consequences?
 
2013-03-19 12:31:07 PM
Hell hath no fury like Granny one square away from a blackout
 
2013-03-19 12:33:03 PM
Add my name to the "believe me, it's for your own safety" list. Anyone foolish enough to yell a false bingo at my family's church should consider themself lucky to still be alive to pay a fine.
 
2013-03-19 12:33:03 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: If you make a false winning bid at an auction, what are the consequences?



You receive a wedgie.
 
2013-03-19 12:33:17 PM
 
2013-03-19 12:33:25 PM
Hasn't the regulation of free speech gone too far when people are being ordered to not use words?
 
2013-03-19 12:34:23 PM

Mr Guy: FarkinHostile: Wow, that's a very poor ruling, and I hope that it get struck down.

Establishments can ban the guy, throw him out for good, but to charge him criminally is an abuse of the judicial system and is really quite unconstitutional, IMNSHO.

Exactly.  Mildly annoying people isn't the same as causing them danger.

What's next, can we charge the guy who yells, "And ONE" every single frigging drive to the basket, because we're disappointed the referees didn't call it?


You guys are what is wrong with free speech.
 
2013-03-19 12:40:39 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: If you make a false winning bid at an auction, what are the consequences?


Usually nothing, depending on the auctioneer and who is running it. You will not be welcome back though, guaranteed. I guess if it was a bad day you could see some legal trouble, but most auctioneers just want to move on and sell the item to a person with money.
 
2013-03-19 12:40:55 PM
TFA
"He seemed to think he could say whatever he wanted because it was a public building. I tried to explain that that's not the case. Just because it's a public building doesn't give you the right to run into a theater and yell 'fire.' You can't go into a ballpark and yell 'out,' because people could stop the game."

uh - can't you though?  is yelling "out" at a ballgame a crime?  sure, it's grounds for them to toss your ass out, but i'm not sure how that's a crime.

same goes for this - equating it to yelling fire at a movie theater is either highly disingenuous or a HUGE reach.  shouting fire at a move theater presents a clear and present danger to people in the movie theater, shouting BINGO does not.

this is asinine and a good indicator of that should have been when he "probably would have sent him on his way with a warning" had he apologized, inciting the "well as long a you're sorry" clause.
 
2013-03-19 12:42:26 PM
You can't go into a ballpark and yell 'out,' because people could stop the game.

What? Really?
 
2013-03-19 12:45:08 PM

fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue


uh, no it didn't and yes there is.

this happened in Kentucky.
 
2013-03-19 12:45:53 PM

fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue


There's a reason it says Cincinatti on the pic next to the link, which goes to a Northern Kentucky newspaper....
 
2013-03-19 12:47:09 PM

BarkingUnicorn: You guys are what is wrong with free speech.


how do you figure?
 
2013-03-19 12:48:02 PM
My CSB:
I was in the Navy back in the late 80s and we were at sea off the coast of Cuba. Some joker that had the mid-watch (midnight to 0400) walked into the Pilot House and shouted out a rudder order. The helmsman repeated the order ("right 10 degrees rudder, aye Sir") and was about to do it when the Officer of the Deck screamed "Noooo!". The Officer of the Deck then sent someone to wake up the Captain. He was furious and immediately held Captain's Mast on the Bridge at 1215 am (AKA 0015). At first light they sent a helo out to take him to the Brig at Guantanamo. Obviously this was before it was being used to house terrorists.

/End CSB
 
2013-03-19 12:48:52 PM

BarkingUnicorn: You guys are what is wrong with free speech.


This. It's amazing to listen to people interpret the first amendment in a vacuum with no regard for context or proper behavior in society. "Hurr durr I have free speech! I can go to a park where there are dozens of children playing and loudly converse about sex while cursing! It's my RIGHT!" This wasn't a first amendment issue. This is a disorderly conduct issue. He went in, yelled bingo with the intent to cause disruption and ruin people's enjoyment. If that's not clear to anyone they're simply being intentionally ignorant.
 
2013-03-19 12:49:26 PM
Ohioans are serious about their Bingo, subs. Claiming a false bingo is means for a good lynchin'.
 
2013-03-19 12:54:21 PM

WinoRhino: BarkingUnicorn: You guys are what is wrong with free speech.

This. It's amazing to listen to people interpret the first amendment in a vacuum with no regard for context or proper behavior in society. "Hurr durr I have free speech! I can go to a park where there are dozens of children playing and loudly converse about sex while cursing! It's my RIGHT!" This wasn't a first amendment issue. This is a disorderly conduct issue. He went in, yelled bingo with the intent to cause disruption and ruin people's enjoyment. If that's not clear to anyone they're simply being intentionally ignorant.


are you equating using profanity and talking about sex in front of children with yelling bingo as a joke?
i'm not sure what you yet, but YOU are what's wrong with something or other.

This guy was charged with a crime and went to court, potentially facing jail time?  That means this took resources and therefore cost money to prosecute someone for basically being stupid.

not the same.
besides, Miller v California establishes quite clearly that profanity is not protected under the free speech clause.  Not sure Bingo falls under the umbrella of profanity.
 
2013-03-19 12:54:45 PM
Can you yell movie theatre in a crowded fire?
 
2013-03-19 12:55:56 PM
Followup story a month from now will begin "Prohibited from speaking the word "Bingo" they young man began to appear at other venues nervously watching Yahtzee and Jenga tournaments."
 
2013-03-19 12:57:52 PM

redmid17: fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue

There's a reason it says Cincinatti on the pic next to the link, which goes to a Northern Kentucky newspaper....


Because the brave patriots in Northern Kentucky stand upon the last intact ramparts of liberty, ever vigilant of tyranny everywhere?
 
2013-03-19 12:59:34 PM

Pathman: BarkingUnicorn: You guys are what is wrong with free speech.

how do you figure?


You defend its abuse.  That perverts its purpose, which is not "to enable assholes to be assholes."
 
2013-03-19 01:00:22 PM
Prior restraint be all up in this biatch
 
2013-03-19 01:02:31 PM
Austin Whaley's  troll face just before he yells bingo
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2013-03-19 01:05:54 PM
"The problem with this country is that old farks vote. We got stuff to do, old folks don't, the only thing they have to do is judge you and vote."
- Doug Stanhope
 
2013-03-19 01:06:30 PM
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2013-03-19 01:07:14 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Pathman: BarkingUnicorn: You guys are what is wrong with free speech.

how do you figure?

You defend its abuse.  That perverts its purpose, which is not "to enable assholes to be assholes."


it's not government's responsibility or right to make you a better person.  I don't believe you can make a reasonable case for criminal mischief, disturbance of the peace, disorderly conduct or any of the other anti-social behavior type crimes on him calling out Bingo one time.  If he did it more than once then that's another story - but a one off stupid joke?  yes, the purpose of the 1st amendment may not have been "to enable assholes to be assholes" but that is definitely a necessary component in serving what it was intended to do: stop government from making laws that infringe upon the freedom of speech.
 
2013-03-19 01:07:22 PM

Nuclear Monk: redmid17: fawlty: given that this happened in the UK, there is no 1st Amendment issue

There's a reason it says Cincinatti on the pic next to the link, which goes to a Northern Kentucky newspaper....

Because the brave patriots in Northern Kentucky stand upon the last intact ramparts of liberty, ever vigilant of tyranny everywhere?


It's because they have a Hofbrauhaus
 
2013-03-19 01:07:54 PM

blast yer scuppers: My CSB:
I was in the Navy back in the late 80s and we were at sea off the coast of Cuba. Some joker that had the mid-watch (midnight to 0400) walked into the Pilot House and shouted out a rudder order. The helmsman repeated the order ("right 10 degrees rudder, aye Sir") and was about to do it when the Officer of the Deck screamed "Noooo!". The Officer of the Deck then sent someone to wake up the Captain. He was furious and immediately held Captain's Mast on the Bridge at 1215 am (AKA 0015). At first light they sent a helo out to take him to the Brig at Guantanamo. Obviously this was before it was being used to house terrorists.

/End CSB


I only hope the Captian said "You think it's funny now?" as they boarded him on the bird.

Though would 10 degrees right on the rudder followed by a immediate correction be that bad of a thing? I could understand if he ordered full reverse and threw a screw off,  or got someone to fire off a deck gun...but the small course correction order was intercepted and no harm was done.
 
2013-03-19 01:10:39 PM

KimJ: And I thought having a drag queen shove candy down your throat was the worst bingo punishment.


/have also heard of forced donning of adult diapers as a false bingo punishment


where the hell do you go to bingo at? O_o
 
2013-03-19 01:12:17 PM
well, excuse me, it was in the US.  The place and court names seemed British to me. The punishment also seemed like something a British court would do. Never even noticed the Cinci reference.

Sheesh, what a bad punishment.
 
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