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(ESPN)   Baltimore Ravens: "Please Orioles, move your September 5 game so we can play at home for the opener, pleeeeaassee"   (espn.go.com) divider line 168
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2013-03-19 11:48:05 AM
So far, there's been no progress in talks for this season's opener, and Wednesday, Sept. 4 is not an option because it's the first night of Rosh Hashanah.

Wait... is Sandy Koufax pitching or something?
 
2013-03-19 11:59:45 AM

FriarReb98: So far, there's been no progress in talks for this season's opener, and Wednesday, Sept. 4 is not an option because it's the first night of Rosh Hashanah.

Wait... is Sandy Koufax pitching or something?


I think they meant it isn't an option for the Ravens.  But, I agree... the NFL readily plays games Christmas night and other sports I am guessing play games on Rosh Hashanah.... I think the NFL is just using that to stick to its guns for wanting the Thursday night opener.
 
2013-03-19 12:05:49 PM
Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Biscotti

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2013-03-19 12:14:25 PM
No, blow me.
 
2013-03-19 12:29:32 PM
you win a super bowl, you get a free pass to do anything you want for a year.  its how it works.
 
2013-03-19 12:30:55 PM

FriarReb98: So far, there's been no progress in talks for this season's opener, and Wednesday, Sept. 4 is not an option because it's the first night of Rosh Hashanah.

Wait... is Sandy Koufax pitching or something?


baltimore has a large jewish population.
 
2013-03-19 12:36:12 PM

SlothB77: you win a super bowl, you get a free pass to do anything you want for a year.  its how it works.


The Orioles schedule has long since been set.  Why do they have to move?
 
2013-03-19 12:52:00 PM

GAT_00: SlothB77: you win a super bowl, you get a free pass to do anything you want for a year.  its how it works.

The Orioles schedule has long since been set.  Why do they have to move?


Because the NFL is the freight train, and the MLB is the car crossing the tracks.
 
2013-03-19 12:55:05 PM
yourseosucks.com
 
2013-03-19 01:00:58 PM
Why can't they have both games at the same time? Nobody goes to Orioles games anyways. (Actually, you never know, the O's might be good again this year. Last season was fun)

They can play at the same time. It would be fun, one big party.
 
2013-03-19 01:02:44 PM

vernonFL: Why can't they have both games at the same time? Nobody goes to Orioles games anyways. (Actually, you never know, the O's might be good again this year. Last season was fun)

They can play at the same time. It would be fun, one big party.


I think the issue is (like many NFL & MLB parks now close to each other) they share the main parking area, and they plan their schedules as to not have their games at the same time.  They can even be afternoon/evening, but, at the same time, parking will be limited.
 
2013-03-19 01:03:57 PM
Somebody can correct me if I am wrong though about them sharing parking, and they are just worried about two games of traffic going the same direction vs. one.
 
2013-03-19 01:07:39 PM

dletter: Somebody can correct me if I am wrong though about them sharing parking, and they are just worried about two games of traffic going the same direction vs. one.


You're correct; pretty much the only thing between the two stadiums is parking lot.
 
2013-03-19 01:41:14 PM
So last year the NFL moved the opener to Wednesday because of the Messiah's keynote speech, but this year they refuse to move the opener because it's the REAL messiah's new years celebration?


Makes sense, I guess.  Jesus has been planning this particular bash since 1984.  I heard he booked Christopher Cross.
 
2013-03-19 01:43:57 PM
81 home games for the O's, 8 for the Ravens.  MLB, do the right thing, just move the damn game to a doubleheader or reset it to some useless makeup game in June.  i know september mmmmmmmmmmmmmight be relevant to the O's postgame hopes, but why take the chance?  just do the right thing, farksticks.
 
2013-03-19 01:45:16 PM
Why Would I Read the Article:

Jesus has been planning this particular bash since 1984.  I heard he booked Christopher Cross.

Jesus did like to go sailing.
 
2013-03-19 01:46:03 PM

dletter: I think the issue is (like many NFL & MLB parks now close to each other) they share the main parking area, and they plan their schedules as to not have their games at the same time.


I just don't see that being so big of a problem.  It's not like they are playing the Yankees that day.
 
2013-03-19 01:46:29 PM

dletter: Somebody can correct me if I am wrong though about them sharing parking, and they are just worried about two games of traffic going the same direction vs. one.


Well, I think there's the added issue of not enough parking spots (by a large margin) if both stadia are occupied.
 
2013-03-19 01:49:03 PM

vernonFL: Why Would I Read the Article:

Jesus has been planning this particular bash since 1984.  I heard he booked Christopher Cross.

Jesus did like to go sailing.



Well he's got such a long way to go (HUHCHA LONG WAYDA GOE)
To make it to the waters of Mexico (MAYGA TOTHA WODDAS HUH METSICOE)
So he'll ride (SO HILL RIIIII)
Ride like the wind
Bah-dah-bah-bah dah dah


/Christopher Cross, featuring Chewbacca on backing vocals)
 
2013-03-19 01:52:53 PM

rickythepenguin: 81 home games for the O's, 8 for the Ravens.  MLB, do the right thing, just move the damn game to a doubleheader or reset it to some useless makeup game in June.  i know september mmmmmmmmmmmmmight be relevant to the O's postgame hopes, but why take the chance?  just do the right thing, farksticks.


Because fark football, that's why.  The NFL can have its precious "Super Bowl Winner Opens At Home" tradition when we get our "The First Game of Baseball is Played in Cincinnati" tradition back.
 
2013-03-19 01:54:04 PM

FriarReb98: So far, there's been no progress in talks for this season's opener, and Wednesday, Sept. 4 is not an option because it's the first night of Rosh Hashanah.

Wait... is Sandy Koufax pitching or something?



Lulz.
 
2013-03-19 01:55:33 PM

rickythepenguin: 81 home games for the O's, 8 for the Ravens.  MLB, do the right thing, just move the damn game to a doubleheader or reset it to some useless makeup game in June.  i know september mmmmmmmmmmmmmight be relevant to the O's postgame hopes, but why take the chance?  just do the right thing, farksticks.


Exactly what I came in here to say. Looking at the schedule, that Thursday game is the 1st of a 4 game weekend series. Move the game to Saturday and make a day-night doubleheader out of it. By that time, rosters are expanded anyway so both teams would have enough pitching to handle it.
 
2013-03-19 01:57:39 PM

dletter:   the NFL readily plays games Christmas night


only when xmas falls on a sunday. and even then, they will only show one game on tv that night, the rest are all played thurs, sat, and mon.... at least that is what wiki says. generally, the NBA are the dbags that play xmas day. that is why when i am trying to avoid talking to (certain members) of my family, thanksgiving day is awesome and xmas sucks.
 
2013-03-19 01:59:16 PM

divgradcurl: dletter:   the NFL readily plays games Christmas night

only when xmas falls on a sunday. and even then, they will only show one game on tv that night, the rest are all played thurs, sat, and mon.... at least that is what wiki says. generally, the NBA are the dbags that play xmas day. that is why when i am trying to avoid talking to (certain members) of my family, thanksgiving day is awesome and xmas sucks.


you could just watch the nba...
 
2013-03-19 02:04:59 PM
Fark the NFL. As Katy Feeney mentioned, it's not just the O's who have to be made whole; the White Sox have dollars at stake that the Ravens and the NFL aren't even considering. (This is Chicago's only trip to Balmer, and the O's lone trip to Chicago falls in the middle of a home stand over Fourth of July, assuming that I'm reading the schedule correctly.)

If I were making the decision for MLB, I'd get both my teams on board and tell the NFL that the going price is $50 million, and the price goes up by $1 million every day until the agreement is accepted.

Once more, fark the NFL.
 
2013-03-19 02:06:30 PM

desertgeek: Exactly what I came in here to say. Looking at the schedule, that Thursday game is the 1st of a 4 game weekend series. Move the game to Saturday and make a day-night doubleheader out of it. By that time, rosters are expanded anyway so both teams would have enough pitching to handle it.


I thought MLB had banned day-night doubleheaders because people actually enjoyed them.
 
2013-03-19 02:09:28 PM

CommiePuddin: rickythepenguin: 81 home games for the O's, 8 for the Ravens.  MLB, do the right thing, just move the damn game to a doubleheader or reset it to some useless makeup game in June.  i know september mmmmmmmmmmmmmight be relevant to the O's postgame hopes, but why take the chance?  just do the right thing, farksticks.

Because fark football, that's why.  The NFL can have its precious "Super Bowl Winner Opens At Home" tradition when we get our "The First Game of Baseball is Played in Cincinnati" tradition back.


I hate Cincy, but THIS a thousand times.
 
2013-03-19 02:10:21 PM

FriarReb98: So far, there's been no progress in talks for this season's opener, and Wednesday, Sept. 4 is not an option because it's the first night of Rosh Hashanah.

Wait... is Sandy Koufax pitching or something?


Keep in mind the Orioles are playing on the 4th, only in Cleveland.  So somehow it's just fine for MLB to play on the jewish holiday, but the ever so precious NFL.
 
2013-03-19 02:11:37 PM

LibertyHiller: This is Chicago's only trip to Balmer



ah yes, the long, rich tapestry of sport's greatest rivalry:  the ChiSox and the O's.  It's basically ManU v Man City / NYG vs Philly / BoSox v Yanks / Lakers v Celtics / Dale vs Jeff Gordon times a million.
 
2013-03-19 02:12:23 PM
Are they asking Peter Angelos for a favor? WOW!!
 
2013-03-19 02:13:42 PM

IAmRight: desertgeek: Exactly what I came in here to say. Looking at the schedule, that Thursday game is the 1st of a 4 game weekend series. Move the game to Saturday and make a day-night doubleheader out of it. By that time, rosters are expanded anyway so both teams would have enough pitching to handle it.

I thought MLB had banned day-night doubleheaders because people actually enjoyed them.


Ernie Banks farking wept. (I was gonna say "weeps in the afterlife", but he's gone full Vigoda.)

// you know what he said after doubleheaders?
// "I'm tired."
 
2013-03-19 02:14:23 PM

InfrasonicTom: So somehow it's just fine for MLB to play on the jewish holiday, but the ever so precious NFL.


the irony of course how there are so few jewish NFL players and a fair number of jewish MLB players (ben "steroid boy" braun, youkilis comes to mind, and i think Shawn Greene is still playing).  you'd think for that reason, MLB might shut it down and the NFL keep oign, but, whatever.

when shawn greene was a Dodger a fwe years back, i kinda recall him saying that if the Dodgers made the playoffs and a game was set during either Rosh Hashnah or Yom Kippur, that  he'd sit.  but they didn't make the playoffs (that i recall) and it was a non-issue.
 
2013-03-19 02:15:36 PM

IAmRight: desertgeek: Exactly what I came in here to say. Looking at the schedule, that Thursday game is the 1st of a 4 game weekend series. Move the game to Saturday and make a day-night doubleheader out of it. By that time, rosters are expanded anyway so both teams would have enough pitching to handle it.

I thought MLB had banned day-night doubleheaders because people actually enjoyed them.


no, that was traditional scheduled doubleheaders.  the mlb is cool day-night doubleheaders because they can still charge the fans for both games.  granted i'm pretty sure the current collective bargaining agreement has banned day-night doubleheaders except in the case of rain-out rescheduling.
 
2013-03-19 02:16:53 PM

rickythepenguin: LibertyHiller: This is Chicago's only trip to Balmer


ah yes, the long, rich tapestry of sport's greatest rivalry:  the ChiSox and the O's.  It's basically ManU v Man City / NYG vs Philly / BoSox v Yanks / Lakers v Celtics / Dale vs Jeff Gordon times a million.


That hardly seems relevant.  Why should the White Sox agree to any change to their schedule, particularly one that could result in a doubleheader during a pennant race?
 
2013-03-19 02:20:24 PM

rickythepenguin: LibertyHiller: This is Chicago's only trip to Balmer


ah yes, the long, rich tapestry of sport's greatest rivalry:  the ChiSox and the O's.  It's basically ManU v Man City / NYG vs Philly / BoSox v Yanks / Lakers v Celtics / Dale vs Jeff Gordon times a million.


they used to share harold baines.  maybe they can battle over which hat he will wear when he doesn't get inducted into the hall of fame
 
2013-03-19 02:20:32 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Why should the White Sox agree to any change to their schedule, particularly one that could result in a doubleheader during a pennant race?



no, i agree with you on that, i was taking a poke at the guy's post, as "this is chicago's only trip to boddimore" implies to me that there's this great rivalry that cannot be disturbed.
 
2013-03-19 02:24:16 PM

rickythepenguin: LibertyHiller: This is Chicago's only trip to Balmer


ah yes, the long, rich tapestry of sport's greatest rivalry:  the ChiSox and the O's.  It's basically ManU v Man City / NYG vs Philly / BoSox v Yanks / Lakers v Celtics / Dale vs Jeff Gordon times a million.


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I'm just saying that it's not like the old days before interleague play, where you would play a team from the other division twice at home and twice on the road, for maybe a dozen games total; that would put some more flex in the scheduling.

But yeah, as a rivalry goes, meh. Nevertheless, fark the NFL.
 
2013-03-19 02:24:25 PM

animesucks: they used to share harold baines. maybe they can battle over which hat he will wear when he doesn't get inducted into the hall of fame


farm7.staticflickr.com

// you done hurt his feelings
 
2013-03-19 02:25:45 PM

animesucks: maybe they can battle over which hat he will wear when he doesn't get inducted into the hall of fame


I dub thee Lord O'Snapley
 
2013-03-19 02:25:55 PM

rickythepenguin: Yanks_RSJ: Why should the White Sox agree to any change to their schedule, particularly one that could result in a doubleheader during a pennant race?


no, i agree with you on that, i was taking a poke at the guy's post, as "this is chicago's only trip to boddimore" implies to me that there's this great rivalry that cannot be disturbed.


Oh, I took his comment to mean that since it's their only trip to Baltimore, there really aren't any scheduling options except a doubleheader that weekend.  If they have other makeup games (due to weather) during that time frame, it puts them at quite a disadvantage.
 
2013-03-19 02:27:35 PM
I don't see why they can't play on Wednesday.  Thursday night football games are dumb enough as it is.
 
2013-03-19 02:29:39 PM

IAmRight: desertgeek: Exactly what I came in here to say. Looking at the schedule, that Thursday game is the 1st of a 4 game weekend series. Move the game to Saturday and make a day-night doubleheader out of it. By that time, rosters are expanded anyway so both teams would have enough pitching to handle it.

I thought MLB had banned day-night doubleheaders because people actually enjoyed them.


There are at least two regularly-scheduled day-night doubleheaders this year due to "always-on" interleague play.  One of them is in Texas (and I believe involves the D-Backs).

You're thinking of the "traditional" doubleheader.  Two games, back-to-back, separated by about 25-30 minutes for the umpires to change gear.
 
2013-03-19 02:32:06 PM
The NFL is known to be complete dicks about scheduling and wanting their way. If the roles were reversed, no way NFL even considers it. So fark them
 
2013-03-19 02:32:56 PM

LibertyHiller: Fark the NFL. As Katy Feeney mentioned, it's not just the O's who have to be made whole; the White Sox have dollars at stake that the Ravens and the NFL aren't even considering. (This is Chicago's only trip to Balmer, and the O's lone trip to Chicago falls in the middle of a home stand over Fourth of July, assuming that I'm reading the schedule correctly.)

If I were making the decision for MLB, I'd get both my teams on board and tell the NFL that the going price is $50 million, and the price goes up by $1 million every day until the agreement is accepted.

Once more, fark the NFL.


LULZ.... The NFL isn't some small time geek you can push around. What would be hysterical if the NFL bought up all the tickets for the Thursday night baseball game. Pay $1.2 million for all the tickets and have a sold out game that nobody attends.
 
2013-03-19 02:35:27 PM

Peter von Nostrand: The NFL is known to be complete dicks about scheduling and wanting their way. If the roles were reversed, no way NFL even considers it. So fark them


Bingo.  If the NFL wants MLB to even consider this, they should at least have the decency not to schedule games on Thursday AND Sunday nights during the World Series.
 
2013-03-19 02:36:56 PM
Orioles, don't piss off Ray Lewis. It won't end well.

/is he still playing?
 
2013-03-19 02:46:17 PM
Man there are a lot of baseball fans in here pissed off that the NFL is the actual favored sport in the US.

I'll tell you this, if there's a Ravens game away because of this, you can expect EXCEPTIONALLY shiaty attendance for this O's game regardless of the O's standings.

Baltimore (like most of the country outside NY and Boston) is a football town. And forcing the Ravens to lose any of the prestige from the Super Bowl victory is a sure way to lose any good will Angelos and the O's have built up with last year's run.

At least any this year's lackluster off-season didn't.

And it's not like pissing on Baltimore sports fans is a NEW thing for Angelos either.
 
2013-03-19 02:51:33 PM

Deneb81: Man there are a lot of baseball fans in here pissed off that the NFL is the actual favored sport in the US.


i don't know if they're pissed, but, yeah.  NFL is the king.  news flash.  i'm more excited by FA and the draft than I am about how good so and so looks in spring training.  the older i get the less i care about NBA/MLB.  it is all about the bloodsport, the sport of kings, the crucible of manhood that is The Shield.
 
2013-03-19 02:54:03 PM

Deneb81: Man there are a lot of baseball fans in here pissed off that the NFL is the actual favored sport in the US.


The fact that the NFL is #1 doesn't mean that baseball has to bend over backwards to accommodate every request it makes.
 
2013-03-19 02:55:28 PM

Deneb81: Man there are a lot of baseball fans in here pissed off that the NFL is the actual favored sport in the US.

I'll tell you this, if there's a Ravens game away because of this, you can expect EXCEPTIONALLY shiaty attendance for this O's game regardless of the O's standings.

Baltimore (like most of the country outside NY and Boston) is a football town. And forcing the Ravens to lose any of the prestige from the Super Bowl victory is a sure way to lose any good will Angelos and the O's have built up with last year's run.

At least any this year's lackluster off-season didn't.

And it's not like pissing on Baltimore sports fans is a NEW thing for Angelos either.


People aren't being butt hurt here.  They are pointing out the overly presumptive nature of the NFL to assume that everyone everywhere will simply cower in the corner to them.

Why doesn't GODell do what he really wants and move the game to New York as a "neutral site" game. I'm sure his asspal owner of the Giants will gladly put up his stadium for the game.
 
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