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(MassLive)   How long does war keep costing America? The government is still paying benefits for service in the Civil War   (masslive.com) divider line 15
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2013-03-19 01:58:08 PM  
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olddinosaur: Robert Heinlein told the story of a drummer boy who served in the War of 1812 at age 12.

When he was 65, he married a girl who was 15, and she lived to be 85.

So the last pension for the war of 1812 was paid in 1935, 121 years after the war was over.


Knowing Heinlein, the drummer boy was their son.
2013-03-19 01:18:34 PM  
3 votes:

CygnusDarius: It's the gift that keeps on giving.


You're thinking of the Jelly of the Month Club.
2013-03-19 09:57:40 AM  
3 votes:
The Civil War payments are going to two children of veterans - one in North Carolina and one in Tennessee- each for $876 per year.

$1,752!! F*cking takers....
2013-03-19 01:26:03 PM  
2 votes:
I got no problem paying pension to the children of Union soldiers.  Just so long as no money is going to any children of traitors from the south.  In fact, the children of Confederates should be taxed to pay for the pension for the children of the American soldiers.
2013-03-19 01:25:19 PM  
2 votes:
Jesus. How much money does Larry King need?!?
2013-03-19 12:28:37 PM  
2 votes:
Don't worry the wars pay for themselves in increased productivity. It really gets the economy moving.
2013-03-19 10:28:39 AM  
2 votes:
That's not unheard of. At age 86, Juanita Tudor Lowrey is the daughter of a Civil War veteran. Her father, Hugh Tudor, fought in the Union army. After his first wife died, Tudor was 73 when he remarried her 33-year-old mother in 1920. Lowrey was born in 1926.

Lowrey, who lives in Kearney, Mo., suspects the marriage might have been one of convenience, with her father looking for a housekeeper and her mother looking for some security. He died a couple years after she was born, and Lowrey received pension benefits until she was 18.


Damn. Dude was a playa.
2013-03-19 01:52:02 PM  
1 votes:

Taylor Mental: Without a breakdown on how many lazy brown people are defrauding the government of welfare this information is useless.

Furthermore, the sum total wouldn't dent the ginormous debt Farbongo is wracking up with foodstamps.

So who cares?


There are far more lazy white people on welfare than brown people.  Fact!
2013-03-19 01:39:40 PM  
1 votes:
We also pay $174k per year to every one of our senators and representatives.

If i remember correctly; we pay them $174k a year for life. 435 current representatives, plus 100 senators for a total of 535 people guaranteed to get $174k for life. That's $93 million a year. And that's just for the people currently in congress. We also pay benefits to their families.
2013-03-19 01:33:36 PM  
1 votes:

The Southern Dandy: I got no problem paying pension to the children of Union soldiers.  Just so long as no money is going to any children of traitors from the south.  In fact, the children of Confederates should be taxed to pay for the pension for the children of the American soldiers.



In this weeks episode of Idiot or Troll, we find this interesting comment.
2013-03-19 01:26:55 PM  
1 votes:

That Magnificent Bastard!: flamingboard: But Bush and Co. said Iraq would pay for itself.

Reference needed.


Here's a reference for the 'and Co.' part - Paul Wolfowitz, congressional testimony on March 27, 2003:

There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.
2013-03-19 01:24:58 PM  
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wickedragon: I seem to remember that the last wife of a Civil War veteran died just a couple of years ago. Or was that "the wife of a civil war vet"?


Maudie Hopkins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maudie_Hopkins

She was 19, he was 86. The Arkansas legislature passed a law in 1937 banning women who married Civil War veterans (72 years after the war) from getting a widow's pension, and they expanded it to state no pensions at all for women born after 1870. Presumably the others were okay.

This wasn't that uncommon- easy way to make sure someone was taken care of, even if the family didn't have any money of its own.

It's frustrating from a genealogical standpoint- unless you can prove the marriage, it throws you off. An age gap like that is typically grandparent-grandchild, not husband and wife. I chased one set for months before finding the pension paperwork.

Laws like this make for interesting situations. My great-great-great-grandfather owned a hill in his small town, and one day, the steel mill wanted to lay a railroad track down. He agreed, as long as there was a fee paid in perpetuity. It was a nickel a car.

We still get a check once a year. It's not much now, just about twenty bucks since Wheeling Steel doesn't use it much, but it's neat.
2013-03-19 01:21:27 PM  
1 votes:

dryknife: CygnusDarius: It's the gift that keeps on giving.

You're thinking of the Jelly of the Month Club.

herpes.
2013-03-19 01:18:12 PM  
1 votes:
Our Civil War?
2013-03-19 12:19:20 PM  
1 votes:
Step 1: Get poor folk to fight for you
Step 2: Pay lip service to their service
Step 3: Reneg on benefits to give yourself tax breaks
Step 4: No Uncertainty or ??, goto Step 5
Step 5: Profit!
 
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