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(Lansing State Journal)   Fox News Reporter: "This union thug sucker-punched me, I have video evidence" Prosecutor: "Well, after looking at the UNEDITED video, I came to the legal conclusion that you are a lying dumb-ass"   (lansingstatejournal.com) divider line 35
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2013-03-19 01:16:57 PM
14 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.


It's nice to see you finally come out against the invasion of Iraq.
2013-03-19 01:11:59 PM
4 votes:

mrshowrules: Stone Meadow: How is 'editing the video and claiming to have been sucker punched' not a criminal offense under the umbrella of 'filing a false police report'?

Did he say something he should have know was false in the police report?  Did he give an edited video tape to the police?  Not clear but if he did, I'm pretty sure those are crimes.  I think he just guilty of being a huge douche.


He did give the edited tape to the police.  The full video didn't come out until the DA's office requested it.
2013-03-19 12:56:35 PM
4 votes:
How is 'editing the video and claiming to have been sucker punched' not a criminal offense under the umbrella of 'filing a false police report'?
2013-03-19 12:33:49 PM
3 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: cameroncrazy1984: Weaver95: that reporter was f*cking stupid.

Well, yeah, he works for Fox.

I get that its his job to report the news but...the mood that crowd was in, he should have packed up and moved to a more secure location.  standing there and daring the crowd to come get him was beyond stupid.  he's lucky he didn't get killed.

I fully agree. However it's said that we feel that way. It would be nice to have a counter protest and not worry about getting hurt.


Aren't reporters supposed to be impartial, to not get involved in either a protest or a counter-protest?  If you move into a potentially violent crowd, and all protests have to potential to turn to violence, then you have to understand that you might get caught up in that violence.  If you take an active part, like say pushing one of the protesters, then you have given up that veil of impartiality and are almost certain to get caught up.
2013-03-19 10:00:56 AM
3 votes:

Dixon Cider: I could careless...


It just gets worse and worse...
2013-03-19 03:42:22 PM
2 votes:
Let's remove the press/reporter/union/redteam/blueteam aspects of this for a second.

The guy throwing punches was clearly in the wrong, even if he had been knocked over because he doesn't seem to have any idea WHO pushed him and you don't have a legal right to just start whaling on random people becasue you got knocked down. Completely understandable, of course, but still not acceptable in current societal norms.

And I can see that Crowder had a legitimate cause to press charges for assault, because he got punched in the face repeatedly by some guy when he supposedly wasn't the one who pushed him. (From the tape you can't see who did, but since the guy seems to have fallen from behind and to the side of Crowder, it is less likely to have been Crowder, but who knows)

And the DA or the Prosecuter has a legitimate reason not to waste tax payers dollars trying to prosecute a case with little chance of a solid conviction.

If this had happened at a St. Paddy's day parade, it would be a complete non-issue, and so to some extent I am pleased to see that things are proceeding as they should

That being said, Crowder is an opportunistic, decietful little pussy who deserves a few more punches in the face for taking this incident and trying to advance his career by ramping it up as a hyper-partisan fauxtreversy.
2013-03-19 01:47:20 PM
2 votes:
He's about as much a reporter as Stuttering John was for Stern back in the days when he was syndicated.
2013-03-19 01:12:41 PM
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: The union thug was pushed by someone else or fell.
when he got up he started swinging and hit the reporter.

self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.

whose the guy who is threatening to shot him after the incident?


You just couldn't tell the truth or be correct if your life depended on it, could you?
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2013-03-19 10:40:49 AM
2 votes:
Didn't the "Fox reporter" part tip him off?
2013-03-19 09:46:42 AM
2 votes:
I could careless... I just like seeing a Faux News "reporter" socked in the snot box!
2013-03-19 04:03:20 PM
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Weaver95:

I get that its his job to report the news but...the mood that crowd was in, he should have packed up and moved to a more secure location.  standing there and daring the crowd to come get him was beyond stupid.  he's lucky he didn't get killed.

Kinda like that chick in Stuebenville, OH ?  She just should of known better.


No. This is nothing like rape. Please don't compare it to rape. Crowder is an unfunny idiot who was taunting people in a highly combustible political situation. He deserved what he got.

This kind of bullshiat is from the crowd who biatches about their stupid guns and how said stupid guns are a tool to shoot liberals and the government with.

I also find it highly amusing that the same crowd who crows about the Government putting itself in their lives is totally comfortable with the fact that the Government of Michigan took steps to nullify contracts between private businesses and labor.

Big Government Conservatism at work in its finest. Come for the guns, stay for the morbid rape comparisons.
2013-03-19 03:09:19 PM
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: Halli: Tyee: Did the reporter file charges?

FTA: Steven Crowder filed a police report following the Dec. 11 incident at the Capitol, which Michigan State Police had referred to Dunnings' office for review.

Then again reading is probably too hard for you.

This was after he first challenged the guy to an MMA match.  Totally not an attention whore.


And don't forget that the local law enforcement actually publicly called him out for not filing a police report after a few days of going on all the Fox shows to talk about how he was assaulted.  Only then did he decide to press charges.  I'd guess that someone in Fox's legal department finally figured out that claiming you were assaulted only really sounds credible if you actually, you know, file assault charges.
2013-03-19 02:38:18 PM
1 votes:
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I'll give him this much: The man has an extremely punchable face.
2013-03-19 02:38:18 PM
1 votes:

pxsteel: Tomahawk513: make me some tea: So how did the guy end up on the ground, and why did he think it was the reporter? You can't tell from the video.

You're right, you can't tell.  In law, that's called Reasonable Doubt.

You can see the reporter had his hands up long before the push took place and was to the side of the direction the guy was pushed.  It is pretty obvious the reporter was not the one that pushed him down.

So I guess now if you get pushed, you can just slug whoever you want to.  I kind of remember this as a boyhood tactic, wasn't me and point at the guy standing next to you.  The look on the innocent guys face is priceless as he realizes that he is about to get pummeled by the one that just got tripped or pushed.


Too late. Crowder and Fox News had a chance to make that case from the beginning, they chose to lie. They don't get to say "yeah well the union guy was still wrong" now. They lied, and had charges filed on the basis of lies. They must pay.
2013-03-19 01:51:15 PM
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If he did get pushed it had nothing to do with his violence


The fark are you talking about? As the prosecutor said, "It's pretty clear the person that they wanted to charge was acting in self-defense."
2013-03-19 01:47:41 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: EvilEgg: Good call, a better one would have been to charge the reporter with assault for pushing him.

huh?  The reporter was standing in front of him.
There were people between the reporter and the union thug.
The union thug fell to his left.
How do you get that from that the reporter pushed him?


That's a really shiatty haiku.
2013-03-19 01:41:11 PM
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Weaver95:

I get that its his job to report the news but...the mood that crowd was in, he should have packed up and moved to a more secure location.  standing there and daring the crowd to come get him was beyond stupid.  he's lucky he didn't get killed.

Kinda like that chick in Stuebenville, OH ?  She just should of known better.


Bahahaha wtf

Never stop derping.
2013-03-19 01:30:12 PM
1 votes:

Epoch_Zero: EyeballKid: mrshowrules: Did he say something he should have know was false in the police report? Did he give an edited video tape to the police? Not clear but if he did, I'm pretty sure those are crimes.
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2013-03-19 01:28:16 PM
1 votes:
How about a charge of perjury then?

These insane assholes need a real beatdown to stop their slick.  Lying in court is pretty frowned upon last time I checked, even Illegal.
2013-03-19 01:27:27 PM
1 votes:

monoski: One might even go so far as to say that editing video then submitting it as evidence constitutes perjury.


Or at least filing a false police report.

I find it amusing that Crowder calls himself a reporter. As far as I can tell the only reporter involved in this whole fiasco is the cameraman. You know, the guy who recorded events without influencing or interfering with them.
2013-03-19 01:15:23 PM
1 votes:
Weaver95:

I get that its his job to report the news but...the mood that crowd was in, he should have packed up and moved to a more secure location.  standing there and daring the crowd to come get him was beyond stupid.  he's lucky he didn't get killed.

Kinda like that chick in Stuebenville, OH ?  She just should of known better.
2013-03-19 01:12:50 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Did he say something he should have know was false in the police report? Did he give an edited video tape to the police? Not clear but if he did, I'm pretty sure those are crimes.

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2013-03-19 01:12:23 PM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: How is 'editing the video and claiming to have been sucker punched' not a criminal offense under the umbrella of 'filing a false police report'?


The only reason that I can think of is because they can't tell with 100% certainty from the tape if Crowder pushed him or not. From the DA's decision it seems pretty clear that he believes Crowder pushed him, but he doesn't have the clear cut evidence to open up what will become a high profile can of worms. And just for the record, I also believe that Crowder pushed him. Who watches a person fall in front of them and their first reaction is to throw up their hands in the "I didn't do it" motion?
2013-03-19 01:10:52 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: cameroncrazy1984: Weaver95: that reporter was f*cking stupid.

Well, yeah, he works for Fox.

I get that its his job to report the news but...the mood that crowd was in, he should have packed up and moved to a more secure location.  standing there and daring the crowd to come get him was beyond stupid.  he's lucky he didn't get killed.


Pushing a guy to the ground probably wasn't a smart idea either.
2013-03-19 01:03:26 PM
1 votes:

timujin: Aren't reporters supposed to be impartial, to not get involved in either a protest or a counter-protest? If you move into a potentially violent crowd, and all protests have to potential to turn to violence, then you have to understand that you might get caught up in that violence. If you take an active part, like say pushing one of the protesters, then you have given up that veil of impartiality and are almost certain to get caught up.


1) They never said he push him. Never said anyone pushed him. Hell he could have just tripped.
2) The union guy wasn't yelling about getting pushed. If he did get pushed it had nothing to do with his violence. The DA just basically said that if someone pushes you (or you say that someone pushes you) you have the right to start wailing on someone. Or and this is more likely, he doesn't want to waste his time with an assault and battery case that should just be pleaded out.
3) The reporter was there with the counter protest. He made no bones about it. People do reports all the time about things they think are wrong. Most of the time they are called investigations.
4) My comment was about how uncivil our discourse is, Not saying this is anything new! Just wish it wasn't the case.
2013-03-19 12:51:43 PM
1 votes:
Right wing douche wants to stir shiat up, finds out what stirring shiat up means. Edited film at 11.
2013-03-19 12:51:32 PM
1 votes:
Oh come on. One guy who got pushed to the ground got back up and threw a punch. And even that was played up for ratings/Republican agenda.
"Lucky he didn't get killed?" Please. This wasn't the farking L.A. riots. The guy was a shiat stirrer, stirring shiat, and he ended up getting the footage he wanted.

The fact a judge called bullshiat on Fox News' version of events is going to do next to nothing - it's like the retraction buried on page C17 (though Fox News won't actually do a retraction, obviously, and will probably still push the original story of their babe in the woods reporter being attacked by union thugs).
2013-03-19 12:50:41 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Weaver95: standing there and daring the crowd to come get him was beyond stupid.  he's lucky he didn't get killed.

yeah just a bunch of out of control union thugs, right

if I'm ever in an 'angry crowd' situation you can bet your ass i'm gonna get outta there fast as I can.


Jackson Herring lives in Massachusetts. The only "angry crowd" situation we get in is when the Trader Joes runs out of organic Cabernet.
2013-03-19 12:46:36 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: The union thug was pushed by someone else or fell.
when he got up he started swinging and hit the reporter.

self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.

whose the guy who is threatening to shot him after the incident?


Case closed.  Get over it.
2013-03-19 12:45:29 PM
1 votes:
Now the "union thug" should turn around and sue Crowder for libel.
2013-03-19 12:43:56 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: The union thug was pushed by someone else or fell.
when he got up he started swinging and hit the reporter.

self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.

whose the guy who is threatening to shot him after the incident?


You show your bias by the use of the word "thug"
2013-03-19 12:17:45 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Weaver95: that reporter was f*cking stupid.

Well, yeah, he works for Fox.


I get that its his job to report the news but...the mood that crowd was in, he should have packed up and moved to a more secure location.  standing there and daring the crowd to come get him was beyond stupid.  he's lucky he didn't get killed.
2013-03-19 12:11:51 PM
1 votes:
Good call, a better one would have been to charge the reporter with assault for pushing him.
2013-03-19 11:59:55 AM
1 votes:

Weaver95: that reporter was f*cking stupid.


Well, yeah, he works for Fox.
2013-03-19 11:45:18 AM
1 votes:
that reporter was f*cking stupid.
 
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