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(Lansing State Journal)   Fox News Reporter: "This union thug sucker-punched me, I have video evidence" Prosecutor: "Well, after looking at the UNEDITED video, I came to the legal conclusion that you are a lying dumb-ass"   (lansingstatejournal.com) divider line 169
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2013-03-19 06:28:36 PM  

Stone Meadow: Bf+: Cletus C.: "FoxNews' brightest, funniest young Conservative mind,"
Wow.

Hey, the pool is pretty shallow at that end.


Like a single molecule deep...
 
2013-03-19 06:32:58 PM  

Tak the Hideous New Girl: PDid: This same guy was at CPAC making rape jokes about Asley Judd.

Classy

I'm surprised he isn't punched in the face on a daily basis, he has that classic punchable face.


Why? He hangs out with the Party of Rape...
 
2013-03-19 06:34:43 PM  

pxsteel: So I guess now if you get pushed, you can just slug whoever you want to.  I kind of remember this as a boyhood tactic, wasn't me and point at the guy standing next to you.  The look on the innocent guys face is priceless as he realizes that he is about to get pummeled by the one that just got tripped or pushed.


So in other words, this isn't actually a "now" thing, you've seen it happen for years.
 
2013-03-19 06:39:16 PM  

PDid: This same guy was at CPAC making rape jokes about Asley Judd.

Classy


Yea, and he had like 3 chuckles at each of his "jokes". I think it's funny that he joked about having a union guy punch him, based on this thread and story...
 
2013-03-19 07:02:37 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: The union thug was pushed by someone else or fell.
when he got up he started swinging and hit the reporter.

self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.

whose the guy who is threatening to shot him after the incident?

Case closed.  Get over it.

Even the commentator admitted that there is no evidence that he was pushed by the reporter.
If you look at the video and where they each were standing, it is obvious that the reported was in no position to push over the big thug so he lands side ways.

So yes, it is case closed.
The thug slugged an innocent reporter because he was angry that he was pushed by someone else or he tripped and fell.


Your guy got punched in the head and acted like a whiney biatch.  You win...I guess.
 
2013-03-19 08:51:28 PM  

The Why Not Guy: tenpoundsofcheese: self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.

It's nice to see you finally come out against the invasion of Iraq.


Ohhhhhh...so nice :)
 
2013-03-19 09:08:21 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: The guy throwing punches was clearly in the wrong, even if he had been knocked over because he doesn't seem to have any idea WHO pushed him and you don't have a legal right to just start whaling on random people becasue you got knocked down. Completely understandable, of course, but still not acceptable in current societal norms.


How can you argue that he doesn't know who pushed him? He may very well know who pushed him, and there is evidence even in the edited video (which is all we've seen) that it was Crowder.

That said, I don't support attacking someone because they pushed you. That's escalation of violence, not self defense.

My verdict: The union guy was a hothead. Crowder was and continues to be a douche.
 
2013-03-19 09:11:53 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I bet Fox will provide fair and balanced coverage of this.


According to a few poles... they actually will.
 
2013-03-19 09:13:57 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.


I agree. It shouldn't even include slugging someone who pushed you, or even pushing them back. If they started to do it again or came at you again, that would be different.

Nevertheless, even based on the edited video, which is all we've seen, there is some evidence to suggest that Crowder actually pushed him. If you've got something else, point us to it in the unedited video.
 
2013-03-19 09:20:16 PM  

mrshowrules: EvilEgg: Good call, a better one would have been to charge the reporter with assault for pushing him.

That would have been to far but he could have imposed fines for wasting the courts time with frivolous charges.

/not a lawyer


Hard to prove. Has to be malice. Not just stupidity.
 
2013-03-19 09:23:02 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The union thug was pushed by someone else or fell.
when he got up he started swinging and hit the reporter.

self defense shouldn't include attacking someone who didn't attack you.


Tell that to Travon Martin
 
2013-03-20 01:38:13 AM  

Zasteva: That said, I don't support attacking someone because they pushed you. That's escalation of violence, not self defense.


The standard for self-defense is whether those actions could have seemed reasonable at the time - not whether those actions necessarily represented the optimal course of action when viewed in hindsight.
 
2013-03-20 01:40:19 AM  
That said, I'm having a hard time thinking of any scenario where punching Steven Crowder in the face might not be the optimal course of action.
 
2013-03-20 02:48:52 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: EvilEgg: Good call, a better one would have been to charge the reporter with assault for pushing him.

huh?  The reporter was standing in front of him.
There were people between the reporter and the union thug.
The union thug fell to his left.
How do you get that from that the reporter pushed him?


That thug is the thuggiest thug who ever thugged a thug.

THUG THUG!
 
2013-03-20 08:18:44 AM  

The Lone Gunman: tenpoundsofcheese: EvilEgg: Good call, a better one would have been to charge the reporter with assault for pushing him.

huh?  The reporter was standing in front of him.
There were people between the reporter and the union thug.
The union thug fell to his left.
How do you get that from that the reporter pushed him?

That thug is the thuggiest thug who ever thugged a thug.

THUG THUG!


Not just a thug, a union thug. The thuggiest kind of thug that ever thugged.
 
2013-03-20 09:55:57 AM  

Hack Patooey: The Lone Gunman: tenpoundsofcheese: EvilEgg: Good call, a better one would have been to charge the reporter with assault for pushing him.

huh?  The reporter was standing in front of him.
There were people between the reporter and the union thug.
The union thug fell to his left.
How do you get that from that the reporter pushed him?

That thug is the thuggiest thug who ever thugged a thug.

THUG THUG!

Not just a thug, a union thug. The thuggiest kind of thug that ever thugged.


Thugs rule, Corwder drools.
 
2013-03-20 12:14:24 PM  

mediablitz: antidisestablishmentarianism: I bet Fox will provide fair and balanced coverage of this.

As will Drudge, Daily Caller, and Deadmoran...


You forgot WND and Freeperland.

Weaver95: fuhfuhfuh: Figures that a libby lib liberal would not prosecute. Protecting their own and dismissing this airtight case, how churlish. Justice is weeping.

Meh.  needed more jesus.

I award you no points.


And may god have mercy on your soul.
 
2013-03-20 05:09:24 PM  

Zasteva: My verdict: The union guy was a hothead. Crowder was and continues to be a douche.


Which was pretty much my assesment.
 
2013-03-20 06:37:02 PM  

CygnusDarius: Wow, The Young Turks actually getting a mention? I always thought most online news shows were looked down upon.


I'm a regular watcher of TYT, and also found it surprising. Not familiar with too many other online news shows; any others worth a watch?
 
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