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2013-03-19 09:32:16 AM
Any chance something similar could work with Steam?
 
2013-03-19 09:35:06 AM

xanadian: Any chance something similar could work with Steam?


Yes
 
2013-03-19 09:49:01 AM
It's a great big beautiful, wonderful, incredible super-spectacular day.  You're heart is hummin' with good times comin' and you got that happy feeling things are going your way.  All the bells are ringin' and a little bird singin' as he sits on your window sill, saying "Yessiree this will plainly be most definitely a super-spectacular day".....

Until...
 
2013-03-19 10:06:33 AM
I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.
 
2013-03-19 10:31:01 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.


It probably is a decent game. And not ALL of EA is malicious. For instance, I feel pretty terrible for their CEO that just resigned. He seems like he tried to do good. But giant companies more beholden to a handful of powerful stockholders than to every other stakeholder, well this is what you get.

However, it's understandable as the customer group of stakeholders, we're rather pissed off at our treatment, and would rather play games like Civilization, Stardrive, Anno 2070 (still packed with uplay crap from Ubisoft sadly), even though they're comparable products, and not the utter joy that was SimCity 2000.

We're just piling on with the schadenfreude.
 
2013-03-19 10:32:16 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.


I like it too, but there's still a lot of problems. I wish the cities were bigger and the traffic fixed. It's got potential if they can also address the abandoned cities issue. Unfortunately, I don't think city size will be addressed until they release an expansion, but I hear a traffic fix is in the works.

That said, I'm still never going to pre-order another game again. I have a pre-order in for Bioshock Infinite from way back in August, but that's the last one I'll ever do.

/Except maybe Civilization.
//I love all the Civ games. BotS is still the best of the straight Civs, though.
///I wish they would update Alpha Centauri. (shutupandtakemymoney.jpg)
 
2013-03-19 10:37:06 AM

SnarfVader: I have a pre-order in for Bioshock Infinite from way back in August, but that's the last one I'll ever do.


I have a free copy of that coming that came with my new video card. My free copy of Crysis 3 lies dormant on my old RAID because Origin doesn't let you copy the installer to a new drive, and forces you to re-download and authenticate your software. Origin + Hassle + forever of download != the fun of playing Crysis. I don't know if that's a critique of Crysis, or just how bad Origin is.

That said, it was very pretty running with the settings set to ultimate.
 
2013-03-19 11:06:57 AM
What it might look like when Origin and gaming was a good thing.
gamesdbase.com
 
2013-03-19 11:12:11 AM
More than 10 million people thought to have accounts with Electronic Arts's (EA) Origin game store are at risk from a hack attack that swaps games for malicious code, researchers say.

... how could they tell the difference?
 
2013-03-19 11:12:40 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.


It may be designed to dispense steak-covered blowjobs filled with $100 bills, but when it's sold as "Chef Gordon Ramsay's signature filet mignon expertly wrapped around a loving oral embrace of your member, on a whimsical bed of Benjamin-Franklin-adorned paper currency" and what we get is a grilled hockey puck stapled to Julia Roberts' TMJ-afflicted chompers and Monopoly money, we're going to be pissed.

Don't tell us it's great if it's not - we'll expect great and ding you for overselling. If your product falls below The Mendoza Line of Products (less hassle/more fun to smash it to pieces than get it to work as intended) to boot, you deserve to be fired.

// out of a cannon
// into the sun
 
2013-03-19 11:13:46 AM
Excellent.
 
2013-03-19 11:22:42 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.


that certainly apologizes for all the consumer wrongs EA has done in the sake of more glorious profit, at the expense of their paying customers. But, I expect someone like you to be a corporate apologist and take whatever they decide to feed you. After all, one day you will grow up to be a corporation!
 
2013-03-19 11:24:57 AM
I insisted on returning Mass Effect 3 after I bought it on Launch day and Origin resisted all efforts to install it for the next 4 hours.  I no longer buy products from companies that do this kind of thing, and I suggest none of you do either.

Really liked Dragon Age.  Won't ever play anything else from the brand.  Really loved ME2, won't get anything else they release.  EA isn't getting a dime of my money until they've gone 2 years without an incident like this, and that goes for every other game company out there.  Before widespread high speed internet you couldn't release garbage and just patch it later, and I refuse to accept that model.
 
2013-03-19 11:26:22 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.


Lucy Bradshaw, is that you?
 
2013-03-19 11:27:35 AM
Copy/Pasta from the other thread where this came up:

Meh, it's a URI exploit. Not to excuse them, but that's hardly anything new. AIM and ICQ (as well as Steam) can be utilized in an attack via it's URI (AIM://, Steam://).  The only way to execute this exploit is if you were to click on an a link on a webpage with the malicious URI. It's kind of an important thing. So, unless you go around on clicking on links on totallynotahackingsite.ru, You'll be fine.

Origin still sucks donkey balls and I wouldn't put it past them to have some kind of Spyware in Origin, but no need to freak out over a technique that is almost as old as the internet.
 
2013-03-19 11:27:39 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.


There's no harm in having a contrary opinion. Just ask the guys who ride mopeds and fark fat chicks.
 
2013-03-19 11:28:34 AM

SnarfVader: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.

I like it too, but there's still a lot of problems. I wish the cities were bigger and the traffic fixed. It's got potential if they can also address the abandoned cities issue. Unfortunately, I don't think city size will be addressed until they release an expansion, but I hear a traffic fix is in the works.

That said, I'm still never going to pre-order another game again. I have a pre-order in for Bioshock Infinite from way back in August, but that's the last one I'll ever do.

/Except maybe Civilization.
//I love all the Civ games. BotS is still the best of the straight Civs, though.
///I wish they would update Alpha Centauri. (shutupandtakemymoney.jpg)


I pre-purchased Bioshock Infinite on Steam and got a free copy of XCOM for my troubles, so there's that.
 
2013-03-19 11:30:38 AM
whatever, just let me finish my replaythrough of ME3.  I might have to do multiplayer to get the ending I want for my renegade FemShep.

/I wonder if Liara is going to tell me she's preggers or something.  that would be the coolest thing a game has done.
 
2013-03-19 11:31:17 AM
"I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game."

Yes, you do.
 
2013-03-19 11:33:06 AM
Glad I haven't touched anything EA has made in, well, probably a decade.
 
2013-03-19 11:34:36 AM
(hugs his copy of Tomb Raider)
 
2013-03-19 11:36:04 AM
But I just got a coupon for 50% off Crysis 3.....

And the new Army of Two is a ton of fun actually..

Oh.. wait... These are PC GAMING problems. LAWLS *hugs xbox*
 
2013-03-19 11:39:39 AM
It looks like Subby bought the same lousy thesaurus I did. It's bad, really bad, really very bad.
 
2013-03-19 11:41:04 AM

SnarfVader: /Except maybe Civilization.
//I love all the Civ games. BotS is still the best of the straight Civs, though.
///I wish they would update Alpha Centauri. (shutupandtakemymoney.jpg)


I'll probably be pre-ordering Brave New World. Gods and Kings is awesome.

/I used to think BtS was the bees knees too before Civ V came out
//I know Civ V has its haters but I just can't go back to squares and stacks now.. I just -can't-
 
2013-03-19 11:43:29 AM

Jackpot777: It looks like Subby bought the same lousy thesaurus I did. It's bad, really bad, really very bad.


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-03-19 11:47:11 AM

YodaBlues: Copy/Pasta from the other thread where this came up:

Meh, it's a URI exploit. Not to excuse them, but that's hardly anything new. AIM and ICQ (as well as Steam) can be utilized in an attack via it's URI (AIM://, Steam://).  The only way to execute this exploit is if you were to click on an a link on a webpage with the malicious URI. It's kind of an important thing. So, unless you go around on clicking on links on totallynotahackingsite.ru, You'll be fine.

Origin still sucks donkey balls and I wouldn't put it past them to have some kind of Spyware in Origin, but no need to freak out over a technique that is almost as old as the internet.


The way I read it, they had hacked origin itself, and replaced your game path with what ever evil thing. So it would be you, using origin, clicking to open angry birds or whatever, and the link going to takeoveryourpc.exe instead.
 
2013-03-19 11:52:54 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: xanadian: Any chance something similar could work with Steam?

Yes


good
 
2013-03-19 11:53:01 AM

Jackpot777: It looks like Subby bought the same lousy thesaurus I did. It's bad, really bad, really very bad.



Ahem...

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-19 11:54:10 AM

FoxKelfonne: SnarfVader: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.

I like it too, but there's still a lot of problems. I wish the cities were bigger and the traffic fixed. It's got potential if they can also address the abandoned cities issue. Unfortunately, I don't think city size will be addressed until they release an expansion, but I hear a traffic fix is in the works.

That said, I'm still never going to pre-order another game again. I have a pre-order in for Bioshock Infinite from way back in August, but that's the last one I'll ever do.

/Except maybe Civilization.
//I love all the Civ games. BotS is still the best of the straight Civs, though.
///I wish they would update Alpha Centauri. (shutupandtakemymoney.jpg)

I pre-purchased Bioshock Infinite on Steam and got a free copy of XCOM for my troubles, so there's that.


I just pre-purchased Bioshock Infinite and it came with the first two Bioshocks. Green man gaming is having a package deal thing. Even if Infinite isn't worth 60 bucks, 20 bucks per game is good enough for me.
 
2013-03-19 11:54:37 AM

angrymacface: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.

Lucy Bradshaw, is that you?


Unless she's into cosplay and itsy-bitsy-teeny- bikinies, I don't think so...
 
2013-03-19 11:56:59 AM
Maybe EA should work on selling more games in Australia.
 
2013-03-19 12:05:09 PM

dittybopper: It's a great big beautiful, wonderful, incredible super-spectacular day.  You're heart is hummin' with good times comin' and you got that happy feeling things are going your way.  All the bells are ringin' and a little bird singin' as he sits on your window sill, saying "Yessiree this will plainly be most definitely a super-spectacular day".....

Until...


Had that same issue of Mad Magazine back in the day...

Theaetetus: More than 10 million people thought to have accounts with Electronic Arts's (EA) Origin game store are at risk from a hack attack that swaps games for malicious code, researchers say.

... how could they tell the difference?


The malicious code actually runs.... the games do not.

/anyone else seeing the ads on the sidebar for Sim City?
 
2013-03-19 12:07:31 PM

penguinfark: Maybe EA should work on selling more games in Australia.


Based on the prices of games there, I think they only have to sell 1 copy to make a profit.
 
2013-03-19 12:11:49 PM

xanadian: Any chance something similar could work with Steam?


Not sure.  I think the basic problem is that the Games section for Origin still works out of a web interface, which is how they can insert malicious code to execute.  The Library section on Steam doesn't have the same interface, only the Store section does, so It could go either way.
 
2013-03-19 12:12:08 PM

FoxKelfonne: I pre-purchased Bioshock Infinite on Steam and got a free copy of XCOM for my troubles, so there's that.


Thanks for the heads up. I grabbed the same package. XCOM was a damn fun game, but I borrowed my friends PS3 copy and it loved to crash. Especially after not saving for a long time
 
2013-03-19 12:14:00 PM
I miss the days when Origin had Privateer and Lucas Arts had Xwing... But then they never made a game that was both. Xwing Alliance is as close as it gets, I guess.
 
2013-03-19 12:17:51 PM

squegeebooo: YodaBlues: Copy/Pasta from the other thread where this came up:

Meh, it's a URI exploit. Not to excuse them, but that's hardly anything new. AIM and ICQ (as well as Steam) can be utilized in an attack via it's URI (AIM://, Steam://).  The only way to execute this exploit is if you were to click on an a link on a webpage with the malicious URI. It's kind of an important thing. So, unless you go around on clicking on links on totallynotahackingsite.ru, You'll be fine.

Origin still sucks donkey balls and I wouldn't put it past them to have some kind of Spyware in Origin, but no need to freak out over a technique that is almost as old as the internet.

The way I read it, they had hacked origin itself, and replaced your game path with what ever evil thing. So it would be you, using origin, clicking to open angry birds or whatever, and the link going to takeoveryourpc.exe instead.


The way they overwrite the exe is via a URI that launches a malicious script. It still requires:
a.) the user to be an idiot and click on a bad link on a webpage, executing the code to overwrite the executable.
b.) the user to be an idiot and run some randomly downloaded executable, which overwrites Origin.exe, granting execute privileges on the Origin:// URI scheme.

Neither of these make Origin anymore insecure than any other application, it's just another vector to execute a known type of attack.
 
2013-03-19 12:20:19 PM

MightyPez: FoxKelfonne: I pre-purchased Bioshock Infinite on Steam and got a free copy of XCOM for my troubles, so there's that.

Thanks for the heads up. I grabbed the same package. XCOM was a damn fun game, but I borrowed my friends PS3 copy and it loved to crash. Especially after not saving for a long time


XCOM is the best game of last year hands down. I seriously hope they do a sequel that's more randomized. Clean up the original's interface, keep the randomization and the depth(multiple bases, attacks on your base, etc), and use something like Frostbite 2 for your engine.

Could you imagine XCOM with Frostbite 2's level of destruction? GLORIOUS!
 
2013-03-19 12:22:12 PM

DigitalCoffee: dittybopper: It's a great big beautiful, wonderful, incredible super-spectacular day.  You're heart is hummin' with good times comin' and you got that happy feeling things are going your way.  All the bells are ringin' and a little bird singin' as he sits on your window sill, saying "Yessiree this will plainly be most definitely a super-spectacular day".....

Until...

Had that same issue of Mad Magazine back in the day...

Theaetetus: More than 10 million people thought to have accounts with Electronic Arts's (EA) Origin game store are at risk from a hack attack that swaps games for malicious code, researchers say.

... how could they tell the difference?

The malicious code actually runs.... the games do not.

/anyone else seeing the ads on the sidebar for Sim City?




What ads?
 
905
2013-03-19 12:23:33 PM
Those who stray must be guided back to the path. Those who reject the path to enlightenment, must be destroyed.  The power and the greatness of the Ori cannot be denied.  It is the will of the Ori, that we should spread Origin to all those blessed by their creation.

Those who seek the path to enlightenment must not be led astray!

Hallowed are the Ori.
 
2013-03-19 12:27:40 PM

Theaetetus: ... how could they tell the difference?


SimCity starts to work?

/cheap shot
 
2013-03-19 12:29:35 PM

cgraves67: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.

There's no harm in having a contrary opinion. Just ask the guys who ride mopeds and fark fat chicks.


Judging from the number of people who buy EA products, aren't you the contrarian or hating them?
 
2013-03-19 12:40:57 PM

FoxKelfonne: I pre-purchased Bioshock Infinite on Steam and got a free copy of XCOM for my troubles, so there's that.


I did the same but when I did it the threshold for x-com hadn't been reached yet. I'm assuming from your post it has, and that means I'll be playing xcom when I get home tonight.
 
2013-03-19 12:42:19 PM
Always-online DRM farks the user over with no real increase in IP security?

NO.  You don't farkING say.
 
2013-03-19 12:42:54 PM
I have an Origin account, but haven't used it (or the game associated with it) in months. Recently, I got an email that said, "Your password has been successfully changed." As I hadn't changed it, I figured something must be up. I went to Origin's website and easily found the links for what to do in the event of blah blah blah and I could barely believe the "solution" Origin has in place for this issue.
Their instructions, and I'm pretty sure they were serious, were to create a new Origin account using a different email address than I'd used for my original Origin account and then to email the Origin help team my phone number so they could call me. I double checked all my previous correspondences with Origin from when I initially setup the account to make sure I hadn't provided any method for making purchases or accruing charges through the account and said fark it. I'd rather let some random internet hacker guy have my worthless Origin account than to have to provide them with yet another email account they can spam as well as my phone number. What a joke.
 
2013-03-19 12:43:47 PM

LL316: cgraves67: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know I'm a broken record, but I like the game.

There's no harm in having a contrary opinion. Just ask the guys who ride mopeds and fark fat chicks.

Judging from the number of people who buy EA products, aren't you the contrarian or hating them?


Got any numbers? The one I saw said 1.1 million copies sold in 2 weeks. This does not take into account refunds and returns, which numbered in the thousands. And 1.1 million, while large, is pretty paltry compared ot other releases. TES: Skyrim sold 3x that in ONE DAY.
 
2013-03-19 12:50:56 PM

905: Those who stray must be guided back to the path. Those who reject the path to enlightenment, must be destroyed.  The power and the greatness of the Ori cannot be denied.  It is the will of the Ori, that we should spread Origin to all those blessed by their creation.

Those who seek the path to enlightenment must not be led astray!

Hallowed are the Ori.


...and blessed be Claudia Black and Morena Baccarin.
 
2013-03-19 12:58:14 PM
scottydoesntknow


Got any numbers? The one I saw said 1.1 million copies sold in 2 weeks. This does not take into account refunds and returns, which numbered in the thousands. And 1.1 million, while large, is pretty paltry compared ot other releases. TES: Skyrim sold 3x that in ONE DAY.


I read the same numbers. Didn't Black Ops 2 2-2 or 2 1/2 (whatever the new one was) sell like 50 million in the first week. That 1.1 million is pretty pathetic in comparison.
 
2013-03-19 01:04:51 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: scottydoesntknow


Got any numbers? The one I saw said 1.1 million copies sold in 2 weeks. This does not take into account refunds and returns, which numbered in the thousands. And 1.1 million, while large, is pretty paltry compared ot other releases. TES: Skyrim sold 3x that in ONE DAY.

I read the same numbers. Didn't Black Ops 2 2-2 or 2 1/2 (whatever the new one was) sell like 50 million in the first week. That 1.1 million is pretty pathetic in comparison.


It's pathetic when compared to a multi-platform title. For a PC-only title, it's pretty good.
 
2013-03-19 01:09:21 PM
Later today on Lucy Bradshaw's Blog:

"I hate to disturb you when you're having an awesome time playing SimCity but I thought I should tell you about a great new feature of your Origin account!"
 
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