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(KATU)   Looking at this wreck, you'd never guess that the woman driving the car was out of the hospital before the tractor-trailer driver even sobered up   (katu.com) divider line 49
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2013-03-19 08:38:54 AM  
storage.canoe.ca

Intrigued
 
2013-03-19 08:51:35 AM  
second degree criminal mischief?

Sounds like he was toilet papering someone's yard.

How can you convey the message that drinking and driving is serious when you basically say "Bad boy, no cookie for you".
 
2013-03-19 09:58:49 AM  
The boys from the funeral home can be quick like that. Sometimes they like 'em still warm.
 
2013-03-19 10:00:03 AM  
Jesus. What car?
 
2013-03-19 10:02:48 AM  
Wow.. she's lucky she didn't end up with a skull fraction
 
2013-03-19 10:05:03 AM  
I'd like to know what she was driving because it just passed a serious crash safety test.
 
2013-03-19 10:07:24 AM  

diaphoresis: Wow.. she's lucky she didn't end up with a skull fraction


They said there would be no math. That is one seriously lucky lady. She should probably try her chances at lotto before her luck wears off, because looking at the "car" she was in, it's a miracle that she didn't leave the scene in a body bag.
 
2013-03-19 10:11:18 AM  

DeadMouseTails: diaphoresis: Wow.. she's lucky she didn't end up with a skull fraction

They said there would be no math. That is one seriously lucky lady. She should probably try her chances at lotto before her luck wears off, because looking at the "car" she was in, it's a miracle that she didn't leave the scene in a body bag.


Ziploc bags, no less
 
2013-03-19 10:14:03 AM  
I want to know what kind of car she was driving.
 
2013-03-19 10:15:25 AM  
I too am very happy to see the lady alive, especially since her car looks like a wadded up piece of tin foil.

The truck driver should be banned from driving ANYTHING (including a lawn mover) for LIFE.

I am a truck driver, and as such, I try to hold myself to a higher standard. My friends may give me flack about why I don't drink or even try smoking a joint, I explain to them that the last thing i want is to loose my CDL. I have worked hard for it and want to keep it.

Then again, after seeing the way many people drive (and I drive in Boston a lot), some day I want to get hammered. But not before calling a cab first and making sure I'm not driving the next day.
 
2013-03-19 10:16:04 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: I want to know what kind of car she was driving.


You would hope that the pictures in the article would help there, yet they are of a shopping bag and police lights. WTF?
 
2013-03-19 10:18:26 AM  

Hopman: I am a truck driver, and as such, I try to hold myself to a higher standard.


THIS is why I feel a fark of a lot safer behind a semi than I do behind an SUV. When I was driving my Neon (which is really low to the ground, comparatively), I couldn't see anything, and boy did I hate SUV drivers and pick-up trucks. Especially F-150s for some reason. The only people I felt I could trust were CDL drivers.

So, thank you.
 
2013-03-19 10:19:42 AM  
They really need to take a look at any camera footage of that truck stop out in Troutdale and charge the owner of the bar inside if they over served the driver.

/I submitted this with a better headline.
 
2013-03-19 10:21:42 AM  

Hopman: The truck driver should be banned from driving ANYTHING (including a lawn mover) for LIFE.


I agree. You read about too many accidents where the cause was a repeat offender. About a year ago some truck driver drove into THE SIDE of an Amtrak train. He wasn't trying to beat the train at the crossing, he just f*cking drove into THE SIDE of the train. The guy had something like five major moving offenses and his licence had been suspended on more than one occasion. He got another chance to kill some people and he finally did.
 
2013-03-19 10:23:14 AM  
Can't find the link, but KGW reported the vehicle as being a 2002 red Honda Civic
 
2013-03-19 10:27:15 AM  
Useless article is useless without the make of the car.  Tsk tsk.
 
2013-03-19 10:27:43 AM  
Fifty years from now people will look back at our highway system as being sheer madness...  I hope.
 
2013-03-19 10:28:34 AM  
She had no visible scars and was able to stand and move around.

Shouldn't that be cuts and bruises? But then again, maybe the writer thought if you could survive this crash you could heal in a matter of hours.
 
2013-03-19 10:32:31 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Hopman: The truck driver should be banned from driving ANYTHING (including a lawn mover) for LIFE.

I agree. You read about too many accidents where the cause was a repeat offender. About a year ago some truck driver drove into THE SIDE of an Amtrak train. He wasn't trying to beat the train at the crossing, he just f*cking drove into THE SIDE of the train. The guy had something like five major moving offenses and his licence had been suspended on more than one occasion. He got another chance to kill some people and he finally did.


Holy cow!

The trucking industry's kind of in a catch-22 right now. There's a shortage of drivers, so bad ones get to keep driving for the most part. On the other hand, it's very difficult to get a CDL, and some people freak out when they see how complex a truck can be or it's not as glamourors as the movies make it out to be. Plus, if you haul Haz-Mat or drive a school bus, the background checks a pretty rigorous.
Not to mention driers & trucking campanies deal with a whole alphabet soup of regulations & agancies on a regular basis. You deal with the USDOT, ICC, FMCSA, SP, PD, EPA, and so on.
 
2013-03-19 10:40:05 AM  
Somebody send her car manufacturer a medal, pronto.
 
2013-03-19 10:41:33 AM  

Hopman: I too am very happy to see the lady alive, especially since her car looks like a wadded up piece of tin foil.

The truck driver should be banned from driving ANYTHING (including a lawn mover) for LIFE.

I am a truck driver, and as such, I try to hold myself to a higher standard. My friends may give me flack about why I don't drink or even try smoking a joint, I explain to them that the last thing i want is to loose my CDL. I have worked hard for it and want to keep it.

Then again, after seeing the way many people drive (and I drive in Boston a lot), some day I want to get hammered. But not before calling a cab first and making sure I'm not driving the next day.


I admire your restraint.  I drove 5-tons in the Reserves; if I drove a heavy rig in Boston, I'd probably last about three days before going on a squishing rampage.

Lotta morons on the road here.
 
2013-03-19 10:43:18 AM  
Scary fact time.  One friend who taught in a CDL program told me this about the law concerning alcohol:

A truck driver can get blind, drop-dead, stone cold DRUNK....and 2 hours after their blood alcohol limit hits .08 they can legally get behind the wheel of a semi.

But if they smoke weed within the past 30 days it'll show up on a piss test and they'll get canned.
 
2013-03-19 10:56:51 AM  
Good thing she wasn't driving a Smart Car.
 
2013-03-19 11:14:16 AM  
 
2013-03-19 11:14:32 AM  

PunGent: I admire your restraint.  I drove 5-tons in the Reserves; if I drove a heavy rig in Boston, I'd probably last about three days before going on a squishing rampage.

Lotta morons on the road here.


Thank you, PunGent for your service!

I drive a truck that's just below CDL weight (sheet metal & HVAC duct work doesn't weight much), but has a 26' long body on it. Even though you don't have to have a CDL to drive my truck, you still need to have a clue what you're doing, especially getting in & out of tight job sites.

Personally, if a truck is bigger than a 1-ton, you should have a CDL, This also goes for RV's as well, as many of them are just bus shells with few seats.
 
2013-03-19 11:20:29 AM  

ristst: Scary fact time.  One friend who taught in a CDL program told me this about the law concerning alcohol:

A truck driver can get blind, drop-dead, stone cold DRUNK....and 2 hours after their blood alcohol limit hits .08 they can legally get behind the wheel of a semi.

But if they smoke weed within the past 30 days it'll show up on a piss test and they'll get canned.

Then your buddy needs to go back to school,the legal limit for a cdl holder is a bac of .02,and no they can't legally get behind the wheel of a semi and drive,if they drive and get busted,they loose their cdl's for a year.
 
2013-03-19 11:42:25 AM  

Hopman


some people freak out when they see how complex a truck can be or it's not as glamourors as the movies make it out to be.


o_O
 
2013-03-19 11:46:56 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Hopman: The truck driver should be banned from driving ANYTHING (including a lawn mover) for LIFE.

I agree. You read about too many accidents where the cause was a repeat offender. About a year ago some truck driver drove into THE SIDE of an Amtrak train. He wasn't trying to beat the train at the crossing, he just f*cking drove into THE SIDE of the train. The guy had something like five major moving offenses and his licence had been suspended on more than one occasion. He got another chance to kill some people and he finally did.


<csb>

I was ON a train when someone drove into the side of it.  (Alaska Railroad, not Amtrak)  No barricade at an intersection and a woman in a pickup truck more concerned with digging through her purse than watching where she was going.  Watching karma and stupidity join hands and lay the smackdown on that Chevy was the best part of the trip.

<end csb>
 
2013-03-19 11:49:51 AM  
High Capacity Truck Ban.
 
2013-03-19 11:54:36 AM  

RatOmeter: I'd like to know what she was driving because it just passed a serious crash safety test.


Ditto.
 
2013-03-19 11:56:19 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Hopman: The truck driver should be banned from driving ANYTHING (including a lawn mover) for LIFE.

I agree. You read about too many accidents where the cause was a repeat offender. About a year ago some truck driver drove into THE SIDE of an Amtrak train. He wasn't trying to beat the train at the crossing, he just f*cking drove into THE SIDE of the train. The guy had something like five major moving offenses and his licence had been suspended on more than one occasion. He got another chance to kill some people and he finally did.


Oh boy.

See, this is where I come to rant about MY now-hatred for semi drivers who don't pay attention.

Some of you have heard this story- bear with me.

My late husband WAS a class A driver, with doubles and triples and hazmat endorsements. He drove everything from semis to hazardous gasses. He knew exactly how long it takes them to start after a stop, and generally knew what a driver of a semi would normally do.

Coming home from work one day on his motorcycle, he sees a semi with a left blinker on in the oncoming lane of a two-lane highway. Of course, in his mind, there's no way this driver would START a left hand turn across traffic with a motorcycle coming his way and a car behind him, right?

WRONG.

This asshole driver is on record in the police report saying that he SAW MY HUSBAND COMING, and THOUGHT HE HAD ENOUGH TIME.

Yet, they blamed my husband for apparently careening his way into the side of a semi.

So I got nothing. I couldn't sue the trucking company for negligence because the cops blamed the motorcycle. I lost my house and everything because this trucker decided he owned the farking road.

I'm glad this lady is ok though.

Thanks to the guy upthread who takes driving a class A very seriously.
 
2013-03-19 11:58:38 AM  

Hopman: Personally, if a truck is bigger than a 1-ton, you should have a CDL, This also goes for RV's as well, as many of them are just bus shells with few seats.


UHaul is probably against this.

I do think it's pretty strange that I can walk in to a place like that and rent a 26 foot truck with a car trailer on the back and then drive it around with every farking thing I own stacked all unevenly inside with no training nor oversight whatsoever, though.
 
2013-03-19 12:01:00 PM  
holy fark, she was lucky.  nothing against the honda civic but it was sheer blind luck that she's  alive.

years ago, when portions of 101 between manchester and hampton were still two lanes, I came across a strange pile of debris in the middle of the road.  At first I thought it was bark mulch.  And there was a dump truck pulled over on my side of the road, and a lincoln town car with a damaged left front fender on the other side.  As I drove around the pile in the road, I realized it was the remains of a car that I had seen from behind.

There happened to be a driveway right beside the intersection where the accident happened.  I pulled in and watched the tableau unfold.  I was the first car other than the vehicles involved in the accident to reach the scene.

The car pile in the road was an older roller skate honda (hmm).  What had happened was the driver of the honda was waiting to take a left turn into the intersection off of 101.  The town car came up behind and failed to notice the stopped car waiting to turn until it was too late.  The attempted evasive maneuver clipped the right rear of the honda, sending it spinning directly into the path of the dump truck, moving at 55 MPH (road's speed limit).  The dump truck folded the right rear end of the honda up and diagonally over the passenger compartment of the honda.  Anybody in the back seats or the front passenger seat would have been jelly, as the left side of the dump truck crimped the right side of the car like a ravioli.  Except for the driver's seat.  The front end of the car was barely damaged at all.  Think of a apple turnover, a rectangle folded into a triangle.

The rescue squads came, cruisers, ambulance.  I had a front row seat to the action (but no camera, this was way before cell phone cams).  They get out the angle cutters and the spreaders, and about 8 minutes later, the girl gets out of her car under her own power, not a scratch and walks over to the ambulance where they put her on a gurney.  You could see the elation and relief on the rescuers faces as they were probably expecting a sponge and baggie clean up.

I hope she bought a lottery ticket as soon as possible, while the improbability storm was still raging around her.  This was the same stretch of road where I witnessed a  drunk driver in front of me veer into the other lane and have a head on collision.  He got royally farked up, no lucky drunk bounce for him, face peeled to the bone, skin hanging, teeth exposed through the cheek.
 
2013-03-19 12:06:13 PM  
better have him on suicide watch
 
2013-03-19 12:18:20 PM  
images.bimedia.net
 
2013-03-19 12:21:25 PM  

RatOmeter: I'd like to know what she was driving because it just passed a serious crash safety test.


agreed
 
2013-03-19 12:59:14 PM  
 
2013-03-19 01:01:17 PM  
From the video, police radio chatter:

So, uh, is there going to be a pursuit?

I'm not pursuing him on the WRONG SIDE OF THE FREEWAY!

......

LOL
 
2013-03-19 01:04:17 PM  

Teaser: [images.bimedia.net image 405x304]




Appropriate...
 
2013-03-19 01:32:22 PM  
The woman was driving a 2002 Honda Civic, according to police reports.

Now you know.
 
2013-03-19 01:52:47 PM  

ztlonewolf: ristst: Scary fact time.  One friend who taught in a CDL program told me this about the law concerning alcohol:

A truck driver can get blind, drop-dead, stone cold DRUNK....and 2 hours after their blood alcohol limit hits .08 they can legally get behind the wheel of a semi.

But if they smoke weed within the past 30 days it'll show up on a piss test and they'll get canned.
Then your buddy needs to go back to school,the legal limit for a cdl holder is a bac of .02,and no they can't legally get behind the wheel of a semi and drive,if they drive and get busted,they loose their cdl's for a year.


Looks as if I stand corrected.  I'll email my friend and ask her to elaborate.

I'm tryihg to recall how long ago it was she told me that.....probably at least 10yrs or so.  Could be more....and laws change frequently.  Plus, googling the law reveals some variation from state to state.  The closest I can find was "You can't consume alcohol within 4 hours of reporting to work,"  so she could've been referring to that in some way.

But I do recall when she told me this, she was talking about WEED.  She was saying, "man, I'd love to be able to smoke weed, but with the CDL we get tested, and it would show up on a test...even if smoked 30 days ago".  And then she said "but ya wanna hear something STUPID?"  That's when she told me about the drinking.

And I do recall when she told me all the other instructors in the office nodded their heads in agreement (or shook them in amazement).
 
2013-03-19 02:14:07 PM  
media.katu.com

I know we rely on emergency personnel for 'behind the scenes' photos and all, but does this image bother anyone else?
 
2013-03-19 02:16:06 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Hopman

some people freak out when they see how complex a truck can be or it's not as glamourors as the movies make it out to be.


o_O


What, you've never seen Big Trouble in Little China?

/the check's in the mail
 
2013-03-19 02:21:53 PM  
Guess all those pesky side impact airbags did their job.

/good jorb
 
2013-03-19 02:49:46 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: second degree criminal mischief?

Sounds like he was toilet papering someone's yard.

How can you convey the message that drinking and driving is serious when you basically say "Bad boy, no cookie for you".


He's facing a lot more charges than that.  In most states DUI with injury is a felony.  That's just the tip of the iceberg for him.

ristst: Scary fact time.  One friend who taught in a CDL program told me this about the law concerning alcohol:

A truck driver can get blind, drop-dead, stone cold DRUNK....and 2 hours after their blood alcohol limit hits .08 they can legally get behind the wheel of a semi.

But if they smoke weed within the past 30 days it'll show up on a piss test and they'll get canned.


OMFG?!?!  A truck driver can drive two hours after they are at/below the legal limit?  That's just crazy.

I do agree the weed thing is BS though.  Since that's important to you go check out what Wa. set as a limit for DUI on weed.

Clint_Torres: [media.katu.com image 660x495]

I know we rely on emergency personnel for 'behind the scenes' photos and all, but does this image bother anyone else?


Yes the black paramilitary style uniforms are very troubling.

...Oh you were talking about someone taking pictures ....
 
2013-03-19 04:15:39 PM  

IRQ12: OMFG?!?! A truck driver can drive two hours after they are at/below the legal limit? That's just crazy.


Don't quote me just yet....I'm checking with my instructor friend to ensure I haven't screwed things up.  And if I haven't, it may be something that was in place from a decade or more back.  Although I could've sworn that was what she said.  Oh well....I ain't no spring chicken any more.

/get off my lawn
 
2013-03-19 04:39:23 PM  

ristst: IRQ12: OMFG?!?! A truck driver can drive two hours after they are at/below the legal limit? That's just crazy.

Don't quote me just yet....I'm checking with my instructor friend to ensure I haven't screwed things up.  And if I haven't, it may be something that was in place from a decade or more back.  Although I could've sworn that was what she said.  Oh well....I ain't no spring chicken any more.

/get off my lawn


I was being sarcastic how shatfaced you were or could be is really irrelevant if you are within the legal limit.  I am pretty sure for CDL holders that is effectively zero, but by law is like .04.  (which probably accounts for the "wait two hours after .08" which is terrible advice).

Anyway, this guy was most likely in the .2-.3%bac range with a bit of coke or meth to keep him barely functioning.
 
2013-03-19 07:13:54 PM  

Kahabut: The woman was driving a 2002 Honda Civic, according to police reports.

Now you know.


Yay, that's what I drive. She's lucky as hell, but Hondas rock.
 
2013-03-20 09:06:26 AM  
IRQ12: I was being sarcastic how shatfaced you were or could be is really irrelevant if you are within the legal limit.  I am pretty sure for CDL holders that is effectively zero, but by law is like .04.  (which probably accounts for the "wait two hours after .08" which is terrible advice).

OK, after checking in with my friend who instructs in the CDL program, she confirms your theory.  For one, she told me this something like 12-13yrs ago, and the laws have since changed.  At that time the bac for CDL was .04, thus the "wait 2 hours after you hit the legal limit of .08" was a ballpark kinda thing trukers did at that time.

And she also said:

It's way more serious now.  The rule of thumb is not to drink within 8 hours of driving.  Also now they have "dui less safe" where even if you are below the legal bac and appear to be impaired they can charge you with dui.
 
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