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(hooktheory)   Guy analyzes the chords to 1300 songs. This is what he found. Interactive discovery   (hooktheory.com) divider line 53
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2013-03-19 02:46:00 AM
OK, that's pretty farking cool
 
2013-03-19 03:18:11 AM
Great resource.
 
2013-03-19 06:17:48 AM
So, I-IV-V in various keys?

//Or I-III-V?
 
2013-03-19 06:19:04 AM
Interesting. As someone who isn't particularly musically inclined (and deaf in one ear, so I only perceive sound in 1 dimension), I still have trouble hearing the relationships between the songlists that are produced.
 
2013-03-19 06:56:02 AM
I was all ready to be snobbishly unimpressed when I clicked the link, but this is actually kind of fun. This is something I might actually show my students.

/music teacher
 
2013-03-19 07:13:56 AM

Virtuoso80: I was all ready to be snobbishly unimpressed when I clicked the link, but this is actually kind of fun. This is something I might actually show my students.

/music teacher


ditto.

I'm currently teaching piano to my girl and her sister, and my music theory is rusty from a decade of not being thought about (I have British grade 5, which is like a blue belt in music-fu) I can't wait to show her this link!

I can see this taking off in a big way, unless the RIAA gets all grumpycat about the youtube part.

Wonderful example of a creative teaching aid. Thanks for the link, subby!!
 
2013-03-19 07:15:11 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Interesting. As someone who isn't particularly musically inclined (and deaf in one ear, so I only perceive sound in 1 dimension), I still have trouble hearing the relationships between the songlists that are produced.


well, I hope this tool helps you evolve some musical ability.
 
2013-03-19 07:33:20 AM
I'm hard.
 
2013-03-19 07:34:10 AM

uttertosh: unless the RIAA gets all grumpycat about the youtube part.


"Fair Use" for educational purposes.  Of course, that means diddly-squat to the Music Mobsters...
 
2013-03-19 07:39:20 AM

ModernLuddite: So, I-IV-V in various keys?

//Or I-III-V?


At the risk of showing my ignorance here, isn't there a whole thing in music theory that explains what sounds good together? Circle of fifths and what-not?
 
2013-03-19 07:45:20 AM
Is it the Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression?


/I know, nothing is obscure on Fark
 
2013-03-19 07:56:10 AM
I'm going to have to check this out further later. Looks pretty neat.
 
2013-03-19 08:13:41 AM

Eddie Ate Dynamite: ModernLuddite: So, I-IV-V in various keys?

//Or I-III-V?

At the risk of showing my ignorance here, isn't there a whole thing in music theory that explains what sounds good together? Circle of fifths and what-not?


Well, yeah. For Western tonal music it has to do with Pythagoras, the overtone series, the codification of the major/minor system, harmonic progression involving common and disparate notes, tension and release, harmony and dissonance, and many years of tradition. Also, other things.

/diabolus in musica
 
2013-03-19 08:23:17 AM
So it turns out that Smoke on the Water really is the greatest song ever written, and not just because it is the only song you can teach your beagle to play but science.

/All I got is a red guitar, 3 chords and the truth
 
2013-03-19 08:35:05 AM
I seem to recall that when Boston released their first album in 1977 the running rumor was that they 'used a computer' to generate all of their chord progressions, which is why all of their songs were 'hits'.
 
2013-03-19 08:38:23 AM
Didn't read the article yet, but let me guess - they all sound like Pachelbel's canon in D?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM )
 
2013-03-19 08:40:04 AM
Didn't read the article yet, but let me guess - they all sound like Nickelback?!?
 
2013-03-19 08:43:31 AM
Yeah, so, uh, analysis of 1300 songs reveals that the 1-4-5 chord progression is popular (to echo what was already said)? Don't you get more cred and the same result if you go down in the basement with three friends and learn to play Ramones' songs?
 
2013-03-19 08:44:49 AM
www.vinylvendors.com
 
2013-03-19 08:46:49 AM
four of them make a million?

/more obscure than it should be

/DNRTFA
 
2013-03-19 09:02:35 AM
That's pretty cool.

I have this book and it's unbelievably thorough but it's a helluva dry read compared to that website:

www.di-arezzo.co.uk
 
2013-03-19 09:05:06 AM
Saw the words "Dire Straits".

Now I'll be listening to "Sultans of Swing" all day.
 
2013-03-19 09:14:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ

A bit old at this point, but I believe still relevant.
 
2013-03-19 09:21:23 AM

ModernLuddite: So, I-IV-V in various keys?

//Or I-III-V?


A lot of rock skips out on the IV and just deals with I-V.

A little rock gets really wild and will use a vi chord, or even go into augmented V's

Most modern music "innovates" by using unique beats. If you want real nifty chord progressions that aren't completely whacked out check out the late romantic period - Chopin, Wagner, Stravinsky, Rachmaninoff.
 
2013-03-19 09:34:19 AM

xanadian: uttertosh: unless the RIAA gets all grumpycat about the youtube part.

"Fair Use" for educational purposes.  Of course, that means diddly-squat to the Music Mobsters...


Yeah, I can see that being cool.

OTOH, he'd prolly need to maintain non-profit status, which is a crying shame cos the concept is pretty much genius usage of statistical datasets. Which should be rewarded at the highest possible rate, imho.

Hope this tool gets the acclaim it deserves. It's really rather special in what it does.

/wishes he had this whilst learning music theory
 
2013-03-19 09:38:50 AM
Wasn't this already figured out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I
 
2013-03-19 09:50:11 AM

The Morans Guy: four of them make a million?

/more obscure than it should be

/DNRTFA


Amen brother!

/Going to see Steven Wilson in Atlanta in a month.  The new album is great.
 
2013-03-19 10:18:55 AM
This was already figured out years ago. I-IV-V is the most popular progression of all time. From Louie Louie to Green Onions, every genre covers it. There have been entire University courses dedicated to just studying this progression and why it's so appealing.

Oh, and as funny as that Axis of Awesome clip is, most of it is wrong. The progression they're trying to lampoon is the I-V-vi-IV progression in C (aka Journey - Don't Stop Believin'), aka another one of the most overused progressions, but half the songs are actually in E and the other half are using the I-V-vi-iii progression in D (aka Pachelbel's Canon) so they're off-key for some and just flat out wrong for most (but that's okay, because if you know your circle of fifths just about any progression will do).

It only sounds like every song is the same because the lyrics are completing the pattern in your head, much like drawing lines between random dots produces a recognizable image.

So most of that skit is wrong, but that's okay because the point is comedy, not accuracy.
 
2013-03-19 10:43:41 AM

sevente: OK, that's pretty farking cool


Yeah it is... Already sent it to my buddy who's got his own band.
 
2013-03-19 10:45:53 AM

Wamphyr: I seem to recall that when Boston released their first album in 1977 the running rumor was that they 'used a computer' to generate all of their chord progressions, which is why all of their songs were 'hits'.


It could explain why all of their first three albums sounded exactly the farking same.
 
2013-03-19 10:49:33 AM
+many internets
 
2013-03-19 11:36:32 AM

Ishkur: It only sounds like every song is the same because the lyrics are completing the pattern in your head, much like drawing lines between random dots produces a recognizable image.

So most of that skit is wrong, but that's okay because the point is comedy, not accuracy.




Dave Grohl has got your back.
 
2013-03-19 12:07:05 PM
While I agree it is probably very useful from a teaching perspective, Isn't the purpose of songwriting commonly to "find something new"? Sure, often a person might want to go with a more traditional sound/progression, but I do think most songwriters are aware of the common progressions.


Also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=5pidokakU4I
 
2013-03-19 12:08:19 PM

zarberg: ModernLuddite: So, I-IV-V in various keys?

//Or I-III-V?

A lot of rock skips out on the IV and just deals with I-V.

A little rock gets really wild and will use a vi chord, or even go into augmented V's

Most modern music "innovates" by using unique beats. If you want real nifty chord progressions that aren't completely whacked out check out the late romantic period - Chopin, Wagner, Stravinsky, Rachmaninoff.


Surely you don't mean to imply musical taste and desires change progressively over hundreds of years?!?!?!

Or that the invention of modern accoustic processing technique revolutionized music theory, since we can manipulate the elements of sound in ways we could not do before?
 
2013-03-19 12:28:28 PM
So he invented Pandora.  Good for him.
 
2013-03-19 12:28:35 PM
a bookmark?

maybe...
 
2013-03-19 12:40:18 PM

zarberg: Most modern music "innovates" by using unique beats. If you want real nifty chord progressions that aren't completely whacked out check out the late romantic period - Chopin, Wagner, Stravinsky, Rachmaninoff.


You can find it.  You just have to get out of top 40 land.
 
2013-03-19 12:43:58 PM
Oz: Well, other bands know more than three chords. Your professional bands can play up to six, sometimes seven completely different chords.

//BtVS: Dopplegangland
 
2013-03-19 02:05:59 PM

THX 1138: That's pretty cool.

I have this book and it's unbelievably thorough but it's a helluva dry read compared to that website:

[www.di-arezzo.co.uk image 311x425]


That whole Grimoire series is simultaneously terrifying and engrossing.    It's like being lost in the basement archives of the Vatican.   Lots and lots and lots of arcane stuff that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to you, but is somehow deeply meaningful.
 
2013-03-19 02:07:23 PM

uttertosh: xanadian: uttertosh: unless the RIAA gets all grumpycat about the youtube part.

"Fair Use" for educational purposes.  Of course, that means diddly-squat to the Music Mobsters...

Yeah, I can see that being cool.


It's not just cool, it's the law.

Educational purposes are explicitly noted as fair use.
 
2013-03-19 02:09:11 PM
This is something that I regret not knowing much about, and it's getting late.
 
2013-03-19 02:16:07 PM

Rent Party: That whole Grimoire series is simultaneously terrifying and engrossing.    It's like being lost in the basement archives of the Vatican.   Lots and lots and lots of arcane stuff that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to you, but is somehow deeply meaningful.


Holy crap, that's about the most perfect description of it that I've ever seen.
 
kab
2013-03-19 03:32:12 PM

kroonermanblack: Or that the invention of modern accoustic processing technique revolutionized music theory


lolwut
 
2013-03-19 06:20:48 PM

scanman61: Is it the Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression?


/I know, nothing is obscure on Fark


Shut up and play yer guitar.
 
2013-03-19 06:23:41 PM
Not a music guy, but I played around with it.  Apparently, All You Need is Love has every chord progression.  It shows up no matter what you put in
 
2013-03-19 06:24:21 PM

Driedsponge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ

A bit old at this point, but I believe still relevant.


Never too old for a re-link to that. Still funny after all these years. Yeah, it's not perfect, but the point is made pretty well. Would be pretty fun to play the whole thing at a singer/songwriter open mic.
 
2013-03-19 09:08:10 PM
Thank you, subby.
 
2013-03-19 09:21:56 PM
 
2013-03-19 11:30:13 PM
Hey, has anyone posted that Axis of Awesome video yet?
 
2013-03-19 11:39:29 PM
Bookmarked
 
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