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2013-03-19 06:32:56 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it. Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is. It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case


I completely agree that it was farked up that they even tried to make that claim in this case.  But most cases aren't like this.

Without proof that she was incapacitated and couldn't give consent (as it is in most cases) it comes down to her word vs his, and in a country where you practice innocent until proven guilty, then yes she has to prove that (I am assuming you mean actually asked fro it, not oh she sleeps around, hung out with dudes and was wearing something slutty so she "asked" for it).
 
2013-03-19 06:34:09 AM

WTF Indeed: Girls making threats against a rape victim?


This is nothing new, unique, nor rare.
 
2013-03-19 06:38:22 AM

publikenemy: sevente: publikenemy:

Given that you apparently live in a world where raping while black with black friends is a successful defence I can see why you would struggle with the real world.

So, you choose to live in a state of denial then. I hear that state is over-crowded..

So do you deny my perfectly clear view that nearly every time we are dealing with a case of white vs black crime, or anything really, that the R word is an almost instinctual response to the question of why this crime or perceived injustice was committed?

To the point of I myself will be called a racist just for noticing this and commenting on it?

Do you not think that just maybe possibly there would've been a goddammed circus frenzy and the rage and sensationalism would not have been at a fevered pitch had both defendants been black?

So you don't agree that their defense lawyers may have asked out loud whether or not the police and prosecution were racist and didn't like the fact that 2 black men had consensual sex with a white girl?.....they would have been obligated to use every defense possible to get them off.

Reminds me of something....historical maybe..

(knock on door)...."open up ma'am, we need to speak to your husband!"

(lady in house)...."he's not home right now..what's this all about?"

(racism police).... "ma'am, your husbands been accused of spreading racist propaganda, now open up or you're gonna need a new door"

(lady in house)...."what!?...what could he possibly have done?"

(racist police)...."he said rap music sucks ma'am...he said it sucked"....here we come ma'am!


whatthefarkamireading.jpg
 
2013-03-19 06:40:27 AM

TopoGigo: Dafatone: GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.

Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.

It happens. Nobody knows how often it happens, but it definitely happens.


About 2% of the time, in line with other crimes, according to the FBI.

(stat is probably 10 years old, may be out of date by now)
 
2013-03-19 06:41:51 AM

Raymo853: WTF Indeed: Girls making threats against a rape victim?

This is nothing new, unique, nor rare.


Unfortunately... This.
 
2013-03-19 06:43:20 AM
Teenage girls can be hateful biatches, more at 11!
 
2013-03-19 06:47:11 AM

PunGent: TopoGigo: Dafatone: GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.

Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.

It happens. Nobody knows how often it happens, but it definitely happens.

About 2% of the time, in line with other crimes, according to the FBI.

(stat is probably 10 years old, may be out of date by now)


So what you're saying is - it would be wrong to assume that every victim is falsely accusing someone of rape since it is statistically more likely that they're telling the truth.

/clarifying for those Farkers arguing that it's necessary that rape victims be doubted by everyone until they've been tried in the media.
 
2013-03-19 06:50:26 AM

Owangotang: The difference is that no one really clamors for Lindsay Lohan to be spared prosecution, yet whether it is Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Paterno, or these kids from an Ohio H.S. football team people just seem willing to defend them. I'm not sure football is to blame but there is a definite correlation there.


For Ben Roethlisberger, both cases were dismissed. And when did Joe Paterno rape anyone again?

See, this is the other side to the "rape culture"...when the vengeance vultures decide to go crazy.  They get the bit in their mouths and they're impossible to stop, even long after the deed is done. That is why we have a trial system: to make absolutely sure.  But the vultures are not satisfied with just the rapists.  They suddenly have to "nuke everything in State College" or "burn Steubenville to the ground", heedless of the culpability of whoever's in there.  As much as we need to guard against rape, we also need to guard against vengeance vultures who think Nancy Grace and Xavier Von Erck are good role models. They are just as bad as Jerry Sandusky and O.J. Simpson, just from the other direction.

/Justice has been done. Everyone on both ends needs to let go.
 
2013-03-19 06:52:34 AM

the ha ha guy: ADHD Librarian: In a situation where someone is impaired by alcohol (yay, teenage party), they are unable to (by law in most jurisdictions) consent to a sexual encounter. If both participants are impaired, how does a legal system decide which one is the rapist?


Easy. The FBI says men can't be victims of rape, therefore it's impossible for the woman to be a rapist.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/frequently-asked-questions/ucr_ fa qs
For UCR reporting purposes, can a male be raped?

No. The UCR Program defines forcible rape as "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will" (p. 19). In addition, "By definition, sexual attacks on males are excluded from the rape category and must be classified as assaults or other sex offenses depending on the nature of the crime and the extent of injury".


You skipped 20)  "By definition, sexual attacks on males are excluded from the rape category and must be classified as assaults or other sex offenses depending on the nature of the crime and the extent of injury"

So, while it's not perfect, for a program set up in the 1920's, they're not completely ignoring the problem.

Unless, of course, it's in prison...
 
2013-03-19 06:52:47 AM

Warlordtrooper: Benevolent Misanthrope: Snarfangel: By the way, I am not suggesting that women are normally nicer than men (that's an argument for another day). I'm just saying that if a couple of woman ganged up and cut off  some innocent guy's Mr. Happy while he was drunk and forwarded pictures of the crime to all of their friends, I don't think a whole lot of men would make threats to the victim if the women were convicted. They would at least have some empathy at how horrific such a crime was.

Yes, even if they were 15 and 16 years old, and the women were beach volleyball stars or whatever. There are some things you just don't do.

Different crime.  When Mr. Happy is damaged, the man is unquestionably wronged.  No one asks whether he wanted it.

When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.

While I agree it's horrible. The only thing worse then a country that makes the prosecution prove their case is a country that doesn't

Do you seriously realize what you are asking for. A justice system where just the word of the victim is grounds for conviction. Do you not seriously see what's wrong with that type of system


be prepared to be a rape apologist for siding with the foundations of the US on this subject... Innocence until proven guilty is, apparently, ok for any other crime, but somehow women are incapable of telling a lie, so when a man is accused of rape, no proof is required, and he should be swifted past due process and hanged by the neck until dead...

for the record: I know how hard it is to prove rape sometimes, and i know it makes it feel like the victim is the one on trial when a case goes to court, but it IS the job of the defense to try and get the defendant off the hook guilty or not... Sometimes that means making the vic feel like they are the ones who are doing wrong, that is the tactic of the defense... rape vics aren't the only ones defense attorneys do this to. The system isn't perfect, but without it, we would literally be thrust into a modern Salem Witch hunt, where a combination of dishonest people and mass hysterical fear would see a lot of innocent people hanged...

I firmly believe that our system should handle rape cases with sensitivity and compassion, but it must uphold the core values of the legal system to maintain integrity. And make no mistake about it, anyone, male of female, found guilty of rape(non-consensual sexual activity), should be punished severely. I'm not opposed to life long punishments, imprisonment, house arrest, hell even banishment would be a good option in my opinion... But we can NOT undermine the legal system and give any human, male or female, unchecked power to strip freedom and life over another human being. That sort of power can quickly get out of control (See: Salem Witch Trials) and lead to a lot of innocent people, male and female, losing their lives...

If defending due process makes me a "rape apologist" then so be it...
 
2013-03-19 06:53:52 AM
We're going to learn that rape by the Rape Crew isn't entirely rare and that this victim isn't the first. She was an outsider and she didn't understand that Steubenville victims don't talk.

At least - that's how I'm betting this story unfolds.

When the girl first came forward - she was accused of being an outsider trying to destroy lives by twisting the facts. It wasn't so much outrage that she was raped - but merely that she'll was talking about it.

Also - think about the sheer number of people that witnessed it, tweeted it, and took pictures but said nothing nor tried to stop it.
 
2013-03-19 06:55:53 AM

IlGreven: Owangotang: The difference is that no one really clamors for Lindsay Lohan to be spared prosecution, yet whether it is Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Paterno, or these kids from an Ohio H.S. football team people just seem willing to defend them. I'm not sure football is to blame but there is a definite correlation there.

For Ben Roethlisberger, both cases were dismissed. And when did Joe Paterno rape anyone again?

See, this is the other side to the "rape culture"...when the vengeance vultures decide to go crazy.  They get the bit in their mouths and they're impossible to stop, even long after the deed is done. That is why we have a trial system: to make absolutely sure.  But the vultures are not satisfied with just the rapists.  They suddenly have to "nuke everything in State College" or "burn Steubenville to the ground", heedless of the culpability of whoever's in there.  As much as we need to guard against rape, we also need to guard against vengeance vultures who think Nancy Grace and Xavier Von Erck are good role models. They are just as bad as Jerry Sandusky and O.J. Simpson, just from the other direction.

/Justice has been done. Everyone on both ends needs to let go.


How would you classify Paterno's crimes?
 
2013-03-19 06:57:00 AM

orbister: the ha ha guy: She's either blaming the victim for being raped, or she's blaming the victim for reporting the crime. Either way, she appears to be blaming the victim for not accepting rape as a natural and unavoidable part of life.

It is alas very common for families to unite against people who report childhood sexual abuse. "How dare she send dear old Gramps to prison?"


Says the niece that's also a victim of Gramps' wandering fingers.
 
2013-03-19 06:57:16 AM
My family moved to a podunk town in Indiana when I was in eighth grade. The high school had won the state football title the previous year. In the most recent season, they had sucked, as they did every year after.

Yeah, that was one fun and happy town to live in.
 
2013-03-19 07:02:40 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: Owangotang: The difference is that no one really clamors for Lindsay Lohan to be spared prosecution, yet whether it is Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Paterno, or these kids from an Ohio H.S. football team people just seem willing to defend them. I'm not sure football is to blame but there is a definite correlation there.

People defended Michael Jackson like mad over allegations of child abuse and blamed the victims and their parents instead.


The whole Jackson thing was weird.  While I'd NEVER let a kid sleep at his place, I think he might actually NOT have molested anyone...seemed to me he actually wanted to BE a kid.

I don't care for his music, and I'm the last guy to defend a celebrity, but it seems to me that whole mess might have just been a shakedown, partly fueled by the fact the kid's parents were divorced.
 
2013-03-19 07:04:38 AM

Bontesla: How would you classify Paterno's crimes


He was informed of an "incident" by McQueery.  The police were called.

We don't knwo the severity of the incident (McQueery has changed his story about what he told him).

Legally Paterno did what was required.

Morally, especially for a guy who is touted as a "Hero" for doing the right thing, and making sure his role as an educator was #1, he failed miserably, but he never broke any laws.
 
2013-03-19 07:08:08 AM

CeroX: Zarquon's Flat Tire: bumper crop

what's a bumper crop? I'm not familiar with agricultural terms... by the sound of it, something that is grown at the ends of a field that is different than the rest of the field?


Not sure where the term comes from, but a 'bumper' crop is an exceptionally high yield.

Usually a good thing, but not if you're growing rape...
 
2013-03-19 07:08:22 AM

LavenderWolf: publikenemy: ...

whatthefarkamireading.jpg



A cry for attention from a child.
 
2013-03-19 07:08:48 AM

liam76: Bontesla: How would you classify Paterno's crimes

He was informed of an "incident" by McQueery.  The police were called.

We don't knwo the severity of the incident (McQueery has changed his story about what he told him).

Legally Paterno did what was required.

Morally, especially for a guy who is touted as a "Hero" for doing the right thing, and making sure his role as an educator was #1, he failed miserably, but he never broke any laws.


I thought for sure that Paterno held those kids down for Sandusky, and threatened their families with violence if they squealed.
 
2013-03-19 07:12:57 AM

liam76: Bontesla: How would you classify Paterno's crimes

He was informed of an "incident" by McQueery.  The police were called.

We don't knwo the severity of the incident (McQueery has changed his story about what he told him).

Legally Paterno did what was required.

Morally, especially for a guy who is touted as a "Hero" for doing the right thing, and making sure his role as an educator was #1, he failed miserably, but he never broke any laws.


A great lawyer is a damned good investment

//you're right. an unlikely scenario isn't sufficient to establish the necessary criteria for guilt in the court of law. But Goddammitsomuch.
/// but I can't believe people actually buy that story.
 
2013-03-19 07:13:57 AM

SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.


High school football.  SERIOUS BUSINESS
 
2013-03-19 07:15:24 AM
As the mother of a one year old son you'd better believe that my husband and I will be doing everything in our power to instill in him a sense of respect for other human beings and to teach him that crowds and the majority can be EXTREMELY wrong in certain situations and that deviating from their opinions and actions can be not only the right thing to do, but the legal thing as well.

That being said, I'll still be scared shiatless when he gets to high school. Teenagers in general are borderline psychopaths.
 
2013-03-19 07:17:11 AM

CeroX: Zarquon's Flat Tire: bumper crop

what's a bumper crop? I'm not familiar with agricultural terms... by the sound of it, something that is grown at the ends of a field that is different than the rest of the field?


Still no etymology...I'm too lazy to walk downstairs to my real dictionary...but bumper has a secondary meaning:  something large

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bumper
 
2013-03-19 07:17:42 AM

punishmentforshoplifting: As the mother of a one year old son you'd better believe that my husband and I will be doing everything in our power to instill in him a sense of respect for other human beings and to teach him that crowds and the majority can be EXTREMELY wrong in certain situations and that deviating from their opinions and actions can be not only the right thing to do, but the legal thing as well.

That being said, I'll still be scared shiatless when he gets to high school. Teenagers in general are borderline psychopaths.


Well, I think the first step is to make sure he avoids joining a rape crew.

/seriously though. Good luck.
 
2013-03-19 07:18:10 AM
Argh.
I read the other thread a few days ago. The one that said men need to be trained not to rape. The one that insisted we live in a rape culture. Like it was socialy accepted to say "hey guys I'm going to the store for some snacks and I'll probably rape the first woman I see. want anything?"
I thought bull.. we don't live in a "rape culture". Rape is one of the most reviled crimes around. No one in this day and age supports a convicted rapeist.
Now this crap from CNN and some of the stuff in these theads is makeing me loose a little more faith in humanity.
Its very hard to tell your self that you don't live in a rape culture when the lady on the national news crys for the poor poor rapeists and how the conviction will harm their future.
 
2013-03-19 07:19:59 AM

Dafatone: GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.

Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.


I'm female, I have a friend who has been raped. My ex was accused of rape by a woman who, as we found out, had a history of "crying rape" or sexual assault whenever she was fired from a job.

farked up, entitled people do exist and instead of just getting thrown out of court she should have been thrown in jail. I've no doubt she's just gone on to do it again.

My ex just wanted the whole thing over with, he was so broken from having to go through it.
 
2013-03-19 07:20:59 AM

GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around. Women get harassed for making a claim quite often, and other women discredit real claims by falsely crying rape without any real consequence.


And this is why, as mentioned earlier, women have to "prove" they were raped, because of a few attention-seeking and/or guilty-feeling individuals.  Actual rape victims are double-victimized by the Girls Who Cried Wolf.  It pisses me off because it trivializes when a rape really happens.  Not to mention that the "rape" suspect, who did nothing wrong, is also victimized by this slander.
 
2013-03-19 07:22:06 AM

Mcavity: Argh.
I read the other thread a few days ago. The one that said men need to be trained not to rape. The one that insisted we live in a rape culture. Like it was socialy accepted to say "hey guys I'm going to the store for some snacks and I'll probably rape the first woman I see. want anything?"
I thought bull.. we don't live in a "rape culture". Rape is one of the most reviled crimes around. No one in this day and age supports a convicted rapeist.
Now this crap from CNN and some of the stuff in these theads is makeing me loose a little more faith in humanity.
Its very hard to tell your self that you don't live in a rape culture when the lady on the national news crys for the poor poor rapeists and how the conviction will harm their future.


When people start blaming victims for tempting rapists then you know that society has gone to the dogs on sexual crimes.
 
2013-03-19 07:22:13 AM

WhyteRaven74: doglover: It will if you accuse someone with enough money to hire a lawyer worth their salt.

One word, relevance. Any time a defense attorney starts digging into whoever was the victim, in a burglary, theft etc the prosecutor just objects citing a lack of relevance. Because it's not relevant. And not going to find many judges who'd overrule the objection, cause they damn well it's not relevant. The one place where it somehow doesn't hold up is rape cases. Or at least in holds up in fewer court rooms. There are judges around who will make due with a single warning about trying to take shots at the character of the victim and if the defense attorney doesn't follow along, it starts getting expensive.


To play devil's advocate for a moment, if the accuser had a history of "giving" his property to people and then claiming it was stolen, it would be relevant. If the accuser had a history of giving his property to some people but not to others, it would not be relevant. If it was in evidence that the accuser had given his property to the defendant earlier in the evening but the question of fact was whether he changed his mind later...ok, the analogy totally breaks down here. What I'm saying, I guess, is that there would be some (not many) instances where the character of the accuser was relevant, and more instances where the prior actions of the accuser was relevant. It's up to the judge to determine when it is or isn't, and it's up to us to determine whether the judge keeps his job.*

*Offer void where judges are appointed. Must be over 18. No purchase necessary to win.
 
2013-03-19 07:26:02 AM
That's awesome that they got arrested for it. Set a precedence that law enforcement will not take it lightly.
 
2013-03-19 07:26:34 AM
By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.
 
2013-03-19 07:26:51 AM

thisone: Dafatone: GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.

Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.

I'm female, I have a friend who has been raped. My ex was accused of rape by a woman who, as we found out, had a history of "crying rape" or sexual assault whenever she was fired from a job.

farked up, entitled people do exist and instead of just getting thrown out of court she should have been thrown in jail. I've no doubt she's just gone on to do it again.

My ex just wanted the whole thing over with, he was so broken from having to go through it.


Just curious... How did you know he was innocent?
 
2013-03-19 07:28:58 AM

IlGreven: /Justice has been done. Everyone on both ends needs to let go.


THAT

This thread is closed to further comments.
 
2013-03-19 07:30:59 AM

GoldSpider: liam76: Bontesla: How would you classify Paterno's crimes

He was informed of an "incident" by McQueery.  The police were called.

We don't knwo the severity of the incident (McQueery has changed his story about what he told him).

Legally Paterno did what was required.

Morally, especially for a guy who is touted as a "Hero" for doing the right thing, and making sure his role as an educator was #1, he failed miserably, but he never broke any laws.

I thought for sure that Paterno held those kids down for Sandusky, and threatened their families with violence if they squealed.


I do remember that the victims in that case got threats form the Penn State "community". And you can still find people who think the NCAA was "too harsh" in punishing that "community".
Different people value different things, I guess.
 
2013-03-19 07:31:16 AM

robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.


Oh well sh*t, cancel that prison sentence and give the kids some medals. This changes everything.
 
2013-03-19 07:32:11 AM

robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.


Cool Story, Bro Disgusting Example of a Human Being.
 
2013-03-19 07:33:16 AM

xanadian: IlGreven: /Justice has been done. Everyone on both ends needs to let go.

THAT

This thread is closed to further comments.


The state attorney general has convened a grand jury to look into other suspected criminal activity related to the incident.
 
2013-03-19 07:33:36 AM

robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.


When I was in the jewelry business, I sold lots and lots of jewelry - to lots of people.
So when some guys hit my salesman and ripped me for $100,000 worth of merchandise, I totally had it coming.
 
2013-03-19 07:35:31 AM

TopoGigo: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

Cool Story, Bro Disgusting Example of a Human Being.


You know he is actually being snarky about the shiatty people at the school right?

You aren't dense enough to think those are his opinions even with the "from the kids in her school" clearly in the statement are you?
 
2013-03-19 07:35:58 AM

jso2897: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

When I was in the jewelry business, I sold lots and lots of jewelry - to lots of people.
So when some guys hit my salesman and ripped me for $100,000 worth of merchandise, I totally had it coming.


You shouldn't have put yourself in that kind of situation. Statistically, you should know that you tempt thieves. It's really your fault.
 
2013-03-19 07:36:35 AM
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Just think of the futures of these poor girls who now have criminal charges. Their lives are ruined.


/ok, I'm done.
//I got a TotalFark that says one of the parents says the next stupid thing.
 
2013-03-19 07:37:01 AM

jso2897: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

When I was in the jewelry business, I sold lots and lots of jewelry - to lots of people.
So when some guys hit my salesman and ripped me for $100,000 worth of merchandise, I totally had it coming.


i stand corrected...
 
2013-03-19 07:37:27 AM

jso2897: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

When I was in the jewelry business, I sold lots and lots of jewelry - to lots of people.
So when some guys hit my salesman and ripped me for $100,000 worth of merchandise, I totally had it coming.


Sold, not gave away.
 
2013-03-19 07:37:30 AM

CeroX: TopoGigo: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

Cool Story, Bro Disgusting Example of a Human Being.

You know he is actually being snarky about the shiatty people at the school right?

You aren't dense enough to think those are his opinions even with the "from the kids in her school" clearly in the statement are you?


So what?
 
2013-03-19 07:38:35 AM

publikenemy: sevente: publikenemy: I heard that the black lawyer said something to the effect of "if only you chose to hang with only your black friends that night. We totally could've beat this thing if your co-defendant were black. I could've used my handy dandy "rush-to-judgement racism" card, and we coulda beat this thing."...and he would have had many supporters. Including here on good ol' Fark

Did you even read what you just typed or did the stupid just fall out on to the keyboard?


Idk what world you live in, but this defense is used every day. To the point where the word hardly has meaning anymore


You're so right, black men never go to jail for rape in this country.

Pretty odd thread to whine about black people, but some people have a one track mind.
 
2013-03-19 07:39:48 AM

CeroX: jso2897: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

When I was in the jewelry business, I sold lots and lots of jewelry - to lots of people.
So when some guys hit my salesman and ripped me for $100,000 worth of merchandise, I totally had it coming.

i stand corrected...


I believe, ladies and gentlemen, that we have identified an individual who believes the Internet to be Serious Business.
Go white-knight your mama, Francis.
You'll get over it.
 
2013-03-19 07:41:15 AM

jso2897: CeroX: TopoGigo: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

Cool Story, Bro Disgusting Example of a Human Being.

You know he is actually being snarky about the shiatty people at the school right?

You aren't dense enough to think those are his opinions even with the "from the kids in her school" clearly in the statement are you?

So what?


Oh, ok, i didn't realize you were on their side... continue being a shiatty human being and continue defending the brats at the school...
 
2013-03-19 07:42:15 AM

cardex: Benevolent Misanthrope: 

When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town


She doesn't have to say "no", she has to say "yes". Your standard is from the Stone Age and is based on the idea that if a women does not scream "no" it's okay.

I can't take all your possessions and then say "well he didn't say no." And I can't go to you when you have a lack of capacity, due to drunkeness, and talk you into giving me all your worldly possessions.
 
2013-03-19 07:42:26 AM
I played high school football. I never raped anyone.

In fact, I gained no additional respect/favors/dates from anyone playing football even though I was one of the best players on the team. I started every varsity game for three years and I was the team captain my senior year. I didn't even go to my proms.

Just because this town has some farked up problems, don't somehow bunch every school/town/football program together. That is just stupid.

Just because you don't understand football there is no reason to bash it.

You want to blame something? How about now every kid at the age of 10 sees every kind of rape, murder, suicide, dead body, beheading, sexual act on the internet? By 12 they've seen every kind of depravity known to man and suddenly you are surprised that they are desensitized to fingerbanging a drunk girl?
 
2013-03-19 07:42:57 AM

CeroX: jso2897: CeroX: TopoGigo: robohobo: By all accounts from kids i her school, this girl was a train depot at parties.

Cool Story, Bro Disgusting Example of a Human Being.

You know he is actually being snarky about the shiatty people at the school right?

You aren't dense enough to think those are his opinions even with the "from the kids in her school" clearly in the statement are you?

So what?

Oh, ok, i didn't realize you were on their side... continue being a shiatty human being and continue defending the brats at the school...


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