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2013-03-19 02:31:24 AM
Rape rape for EVERYBODY!!!
 
2013-03-19 02:31:30 AM
Ooh, hang on... let me get out my rape apologist red and brand a few more farkers in here.
/just when you think you've got 'em all
 
2013-03-19 02:31:49 AM

stoli n coke: cmb53208: If you follow high school sports as an adult, you need to get a farking life.

They have lives, just not ones they like. For a lot of the hardcore high school football fans in my hometown, their days playing ball were the best their lives were or ever will get. Once they realized they wouldn't be Super Bowl heroes by age 20, they settled into a slow boil of a crap job, an annoying wife, dumb kids, and no hope for escape.

Those ten Friday nights a year are practically all they have.


I really don't understand the mindset of high school football fans in places like Ohio, and yet I grew up in a town where several of the high schools have teams that are routinely competing for the state championships and ranked as some of the best in the nation. Is this a phenomenon that happens when there's nothing else that a town has going for it other than the single high school football team? I mean, where I'm from, people like their high school football and the schools have produced some pretty big names but this whole idea that football is the be all and end all of the town identity where adults relive their glory days is just sad and pathetic.
 
2013-03-19 02:32:23 AM

stoli n coke: cmb53208: If you follow high school sports as an adult, you need to get a farking life.

They have lives, just not ones they like. For a lot of the hardcore high school football fans in my hometown, their days playing ball were the best their lives were or ever will get. Once they realized they wouldn't be Super Bowl heroes by age 20, they settled into a slow boil of a crap job, an annoying wife, dumb kids, and no hope for escape.

Those ten Friday nights a year are practically all they have.



All the more reason to nuke Steubenville from orbit. Put the poor imbeciles who live there out of their misery and make sure they can't cause misery for anyone else. I'm from Saskatchewan, I know what life is like in a small town full of small people. A nuclear holocaust is Christian charity compared to existing in a place where the best you can hope for in life is to be good at high school sports.
 
2013-03-19 02:34:41 AM

TopoGigo: Dafatone: GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.

Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.

It happens. Nobody knows how often it happens, but it definitely happens. While the words "cry rape" are pretty insensitive, the fact remains that it is hard to prove that any particular woman was "date raped". (God, how I hate that term.)
So, WTF can we do about it? We can't assume that any accuser is automatically telling the truth. We can't assume that any accuser is automatically lying. We can't assume that any accuser is automatically exaggerating. We can't read their f*cking minds. Polygraphs are inadmissible in court, for what I can only assume are good reasons. The only thing I know to do is to tell girls to fight. At least if there are physical injuries, there is evidence. Punch, claw, scratch, kick, bite. And accept that you might get your face irreparably smashed in, or your life abruptly ended. WTF, that doesn't work, either.


Sure, it happens.  People are falsely accused of other crimes, but if we get an article about someone running an illegal dog kennel, no one's yelling about how people get falsely accused of illegal dog kennels.

It happens, but it doesn't need to be pointed out in every thread about rape.  A thread about someone falsely accused?  Sure.  A thread about a trial itself, where the truth of the accusation is in question?  Sure.

But here, we have a thread about two asshole girls tweeting at a rape victim, whose attackers have already been found guilty.  What, there, has anything to do with "sometimes women falsely accuse men of rape" other than this sickening notion that in EVERY single thread on this subject, someone has to chime in with "sometimes women falsely accuse men of rape ?"
 
2013-03-19 02:34:41 AM

neongoats: ExperianScaresCthulhu: neongoats: cardex: Benevolent Misanthrope:
When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town

Are you seriously defending rapists... because "she was a slut" and "football". You belong in this state.

Except that Cardex is right.

Sorry, no. Unless "loves rapists" makes him "right".

I mean, it might make him "right wing" but not "correct".


That may be the first time I have ever been called right wing, I do like sucking dick and I know that is one of the main requirements to join the right but my worship of the FSM kicks me back out. And as I said I was not defending the guys could not give 2 shiats about football (or any other sport but I do enjoy the locker room at the gym for other reasons) my point was that the girl did not think it was rape until the entire school started calling her a slut, and several of my friends have kids in her age range and not a single one of them would allow one to go to a party without supervision and would not have called the cops long before the girl had a chance to wake up in a strange house the next day
 
2013-03-19 02:36:23 AM
Time to rename the town to Stupidville yet?
 
2013-03-19 02:36:29 AM

lacydog: http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/

This has to be the saddest tumblr I have ever found. Humanity blows.


Ugh... I want to throw up.
 
2013-03-19 02:37:51 AM

Dafatone: But here, we have a thread about two asshole girls tweeting at a rape victim, whose attackers have already been found guilty. What, there, has anything to do with "sometimes women falsely accuse men of rape" other than this sickening notion that in EVERY single thread on this subject, someone has to chime in with "sometimes women falsely accuse men of rape ?"


Well, the thread is about two asshole girls tweeting at a rape victim because they don't believe she's really a victim, because sometimes girls get drunk and falsely accuse men of rape. So, in a very circular reasoning sort of way, it applies. Kind of. Your point is taken, though.
 
2013-03-19 02:39:10 AM

cardex: neongoats: ExperianScaresCthulhu: neongoats: cardex: Benevolent Misanthrope:
When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town

Are you seriously defending rapists... because "she was a slut" and "football". You belong in this state.

Except that Cardex is right.

Sorry, no. Unless "loves rapists" makes him "right".

I mean, it might make him "right wing" but not "correct".

That may be the first time I have ever been called right wing, I do like sucking dick and I know that is one of the main requirements to join the right but my worship of the FSM kicks me back out. And as I said I was not defending the guys could not give 2 shiats about football (or any other sport but I do enjoy the locker room at the gym for other reasons) my point was that the girl did not think it was rape until the entire school started calling her a slut, and several of my friends have kids in her age range and not a single one of them would allow one to go to a party without supervision and would not have called the cops long before the girl had a chance to wake up in a strange house the next day


Right, teenagers never disobey their parents and sneak out to hit a party.

There is a difference here, going to a party and getting drunk is normal for kids. Going to a party, finding a farked up chick and videotaping yourself gang raping her while she is unconscious, that is not normal. And in fact, is wrong. And evil.

And I hope those guys spend their lives getting prison raped. fark that town..
 
2013-03-19 02:41:21 AM

TopoGigo: Dafatone: GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.

Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.

It happens. Nobody knows how often it happens, but it definitely happens. While the words "cry rape" are pretty insensitive, the fact remains that it is hard to prove that any particular woman was "date raped". (God, how I hate that term.)
So, WTF can we do about it? We can't assume that any accuser is automatically telling the truth. We can't assume that any accuser is automatically lying. We can't assume that any accuser is automatically exaggerating. We can't read their f*cking minds. Polygraphs are inadmissible in court, for what I can only assume are good reasons. The only thing I know to do is to tell girls to fight. At least if there are physical injuries, there is evidence. Punch, claw, scratch, kick, bite. And accept that you might get your face irreparably smashed in, or your life abruptly ended. WTF, that doesn't work, either.


Sorry, but I value my life and the intact bones on my face too much to do something that is not likely to result in anything other than me getting seriously injured or killed if I find myself in a situation where I know I'm not going to be able to successfully fight off an attacker. Your approach is why women for centuries couldn't get justice when they were raped. The very fact that a woman survived her rape was used as proof that she must have wanted it because someone who was really wanting to preserve her virtue would have fought back to the point of death.

Your approach is also why women who are raped carry massive amounts of unwarranted guilt with them for years--they've been programmed to believe that if they don't get the crap beat out of them then it's partly their fault because they didn't resist enough.

As horrible a crime as rape is, I'm not going to put my life on the line just to convince a bunch of misogynists that it wasn't consent, and I'm not going to ask anyone else to do so either. That attitude hearkens back to the idea that a woman's virginity was more important than her life.
 
2013-03-19 02:43:16 AM
i1048.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-19 02:43:24 AM

GAT_00: Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?

Bet they're cheerleaders.


The pic at the bottom of TFA suggests the girl that made the death threat is related to one of the convicted rapists. Not saying its right, but it appears to not just be jock sniffing.
 
2013-03-19 02:44:56 AM

Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?


On of the reason that other girls (and women) are often the most vocal when it comes to victim shaming is a rather unfortunate quirk of human psychology. When (some) girls look at this situation they see something which seems familiar to them, they too have had too much to drink at a party or trusted some boy more than they should. Yet, they have not been raped. Rather than look at this as normal (seriously girls, most of us men have a 100% success in not raping anyone), or as fortunate (yes, not 100% of men manage to die without having raped someone), the human brain tries to find a reason. So, 'obviously' they were not raped when they passed out at the party because {{insert rationalisation here}}. t may be because they 'didn't dress like that' or didn't 'lead them on' or 'flirt' or because everyone knows they are not like 'that'...
As such, their own sense of security comes from a fallacy of their own imagining which requires the rape victim to have had some hand in her own situation. After all, if it isn't partially her fault, why, it is almost like it could happen to anyone?

/As an interesting aside though (and I asked this question myself during a recent training session on counselling teenagers on matters of sexuality, but no one could (or would?) answer it clearly. Too many lawyers in the room for anyone to offer a free opinion).
In a situation where someone is impaired by alcohol (yay, teenage party), they are unable to (by law in most jurisdictions) consent to a sexual encounter. If both participants are impaired, how does a legal system decide which one is the rapist? Or, could it be (like with teenage self portraits) that one person can be both the victim AND the perpetrator of the crime?
//I am not saying that the situation with these two boys is such a case
///sometimes it is bloody obvious who the perpetrator(s) is (are)
 
2013-03-19 02:47:31 AM

lacydog: http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/

This has to be the saddest tumblr I have ever found. Humanity blows.


Yeah... Wow... It makes you kinda wish for a disease that only kills people with I.Q.s below 120.
 
2013-03-19 02:47:33 AM

GAT_00: Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?

Bet they're cheerleaders.


...maybe they were the girlfriends of the two guys.  Way to stick up for your men, ladies.

/And set feminism back another couple of decades.
 
2013-03-19 02:48:47 AM
Doesn't surprise me after the whole Paterno thing where people were livid over the fact that their beloved coach was "mistreated". They might have only been a few dozen in a crowd of thousands who just wanted his head... but they were there.

This is what gets me...

People will howl about the evils of video games or half a dozen other things but start talking about the dark underside of sports fanaticism and you're trying to ruin the entirely pure as the driven snow holiness that is sports. The fanatical level of sports enthusiasm creates far more problems for society than the video game set.
 
2013-03-19 02:50:31 AM

BunkoSquad: It's basically time to burn Steubenville to the ground and salt the earth so nothing grows again there, isn't it?


Wow.  That was my exact same thought.  Scary minds thing alike I guess. ;)
 
2013-03-19 02:52:11 AM
This is like the JV version of the Penn State scandal, with a large number of the people in the town doing whatever necessary to protect their precious football team, which has become more like a cult than a recreational activity for kids. Right or wrong, they don't care--if you fark with the team, you must be destroyed.

The football program should be burned to the ground, and the ground salted.
 
2013-03-19 02:53:30 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Seriously, you could just go on cha-cha and get the name right now. Hiding the girl is the exact opposite of what they should have done.


...if you think this incident was bad...imagine how they'd be if anyone who doesn't actually know her could do so? Are you seriously insinuating that, because you could find her name with some hunting, that you should be able to get it without the effort?
 
2013-03-19 02:53:47 AM

cardex: to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town


You might want to get your moral compass degaussed.
 
2013-03-19 02:54:13 AM
Aw crap, somebody else had my burn it to the ground and salt the earth idea.
 
2013-03-19 02:54:38 AM

stoli n coke: cmb53208: If you follow high school sports as an adult, you need to get a farking life.

They have lives, just not ones they like. For a lot of the hardcore high school football fans in my hometown, their days playing ball were the best their lives were or ever will get. Once they realized they wouldn't be Super Bowl heroes by age 20, they settled into a slow boil of a crap job, an annoying wife, dumb kids, and no hope for escape.

Those ten Friday nights a year are practically all they have.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-19 02:55:10 AM
Some of these comments here and other threads remind me when the world cup was in south africa and it seemed like the news just kinda said women are gonna get raped so you may as well  protect yourself, the whole time I was wondering is it really just that inevitable...and were pushing these devices on people, not sure that the device was even real

gistville.com
 
2013-03-19 02:55:56 AM
Settle down, whores
 
2013-03-19 02:58:48 AM
Apparently I'm the only person that RTFA.  So, to repeat:

THE GIRLS THAT MADE THESE THREATS ARE RELATED TO THE CONVICTED RAPISTS. THEY DID NOT DO THIS BECAUSE THEY JUST WORSHIP ATHLETES.

Does this change the fact that this was an extremely Farker up situation? No.
Are you justified in threatening someone because your cousin/ family member got caught raping her? No.
Is it important to get these kinds of details right as Steubenville hopefully starts the process of evolving into a less Farker up,community? Yes!
 
2013-03-19 02:59:49 AM

El_Swino: Interesting. A state with a significant percentage of functionally illiterate people, and a small town high school therein has 19 football coaches. Holy crap, America, your priorities are totally farked up.


When I was in high school we had a football team.  My senior year they lost every game.  I felt somehow proud of that.

ADHD Librarian: As such, their own sense of security comes from a fallacy of their own imagining which requires the rape victim to have had some hand in her own situation. After all, if it isn't partially her fault, why, it is almost like it could happen to anyone?


You raeped that nail but good.
 
2013-03-19 03:02:25 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."


See, the problem most people have is right here.  They think the default is Yes until she says No.  The actual default is No, and even though she can say Yes, that Yes can be revoked at any time before full consummation.

The fine line is whether the man was led to believe an encounter was consensual, but she later regretted it (This, I believe, was the crux of the Kobe Bryant case and at least one of the Roethlisberger cases). In this case, it doesn't even get close to that line; it never even got out of the default No, and by law it couldn't have even if she said Yes.
 
2013-03-19 03:05:34 AM
ADHD Librarian: Nice rant. But I'm guessing you didn't read the tweet. Here it is, because RTFA is hard: "You ripped my family apart, you made my cousin cry, so when I see you it's gonna be homicide."

Yes, that's a threat with a lot of anger towards the victim, but it doesn't blame her for getting raped.
 
2013-03-19 03:06:01 AM
I heard that the black lawyer said something to the effect of "if only you chose to hang with only your black friends that night. We totally could've beat this thing if your co-defendant were black. I could've used my handy dandy "rush-to-judgement racism" card, and we coulda beat this thing."...and he would have had many supporters. Including here on good ol' Fark
 
2013-03-19 03:08:27 AM
WTF is up with kids posting this shiat from their Twitter accounts. Is it *that hard* to use email? Or for something that truly needs to remain private, a note tied to a brick and thrown through a window?
 
2013-03-19 03:08:42 AM

SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.


Codenamechaz: Benevolent Misanthrope: SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.

Oh, just stick around in the thread.  You'll see lots here.  Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.

Makes me farking sick.

Once again, the Onion is prophetic


Came here to post this.
 
2013-03-19 03:09:25 AM

ADHD Librarian: In a situation where someone is impaired by alcohol (yay, teenage party), they are unable to (by law in most jurisdictions) consent to a sexual encounter. If both participants are impaired, how does a legal system decide which one is the rapist?



Easy. The FBI says men can't be victims of rape, therefore it's impossible for the woman to be a rapist.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/frequently-asked-questions/ucr_ fa qs
For UCR reporting purposes, can a male be raped?

No. The UCR Program defines forcible rape as "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will" (p. 19). In addition, "By definition, sexual attacks on males are excluded from the rape category and must be classified as assaults or other sex offenses depending on the nature of the crime and the extent of injury".
 
2013-03-19 03:11:21 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.


All they know is ball, and good....and rape.
 
2013-03-19 03:11:35 AM

publikenemy: I heard that the black lawyer said something to the effect of "if only you chose to hang with only your black friends that night. We totally could've beat this thing if your co-defendant were black. I could've used my handy dandy "rush-to-judgement racism" card, and we coulda beat this thing."...and he would have had many supporters. Including here on good ol' Fark


Did you even read what you just typed or did the stupid just fall out on to the keyboard?
 
2013-03-19 03:13:58 AM

Snarfangel: By the way, I am not suggesting that women are normally nicer than men (that's an argument for another day). I'm just saying that if a couple of woman ganged up and cut off  some innocent guy's Mr. Happy while he was drunk and forwarded pictures of the crime to all of their friends, I don't think a whole lot of men would make threats to the victim if the women were convicted. They would at least have some empathy at how horrific such a crime was.

Yes, even if they were 15 and 16 years old, and the women were beach volleyball stars or whatever. There are some things you just don't do.


There is nothing so vile and evil as a teenaged girl. Especially towards other teen girls.
 
2013-03-19 03:15:09 AM

sevente: publikenemy: I heard that the black lawyer said something to the effect of "if only you chose to hang with only your black friends that night. We totally could've beat this thing if your co-defendant were black. I could've used my handy dandy "rush-to-judgement racism" card, and we coulda beat this thing."...and he would have had many supporters. Including here on good ol' Fark

Did you even read what you just typed or did the stupid just fall out on to the keyboard?



Idk what world you live in, but this defense is used every day. To the point where the word hardly has meaning anymore
 
2013-03-19 03:17:19 AM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: ADHD Librarian: Nice rant. But I'm guessing you didn't read the tweet. Here it is, because RTFA is hard: "You ripped my family apart, you made my cousin cry, so when I see you it's gonna be homicide."

Yes, that's a threat with a lot of anger towards the victim, but it doesn't blame her for getting raped.



"You ripped my family apart, you made my cousin cry"

She's either blaming the victim for being raped, or she's blaming the victim for reporting the crime. Either way, she appears to be blaming the victim for not accepting rape as a natural and unavoidable part of life.
 
2013-03-19 03:19:10 AM

ZeroCorpse: lacydog: http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/

This has to be the saddest tumblr I have ever found. Humanity blows.

Yeah... Wow... It makes you kinda wish for a disease that only kills people with I.Q.s below 120.


No.  You don't have to be smart to be a decent human being.  I want a disease that kills assholes.
 
2013-03-19 03:20:22 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.


Um, when someone robs you or shoots you or something, you also have to prove:

1. The crime occurred
2. The crime was actually committed by the defendant

This is universally how it works for literally every crime, and does not constitute the defendant "being the one on trial".  People can argue that you gave them something instead of them stealing it when you're accusing them of theft, too, and that defense works about as often as arguing that rape was actually consensual.  Not very often, but sometimes.
 
2013-03-19 03:22:55 AM
Wow. That Tumblr link is heinous. I would be completely okay with euthanizing everyone featured on that blog. Disturbing the kind of prejudice that is so prevalent in this day in age. When you were raised correctly, without a care about differences like race, gender, or sexuality, it is easy to forget that other people are broken in the head. Sick, sad world.
 
2013-03-19 03:23:33 AM

Jim_Callahan: Um, when someone robs you or shoots you or something, you also have to prove:

1. The crime occurred
2. The crime was actually committed by the defendant


Don't you understand that we live in a rape culture! Rape is totally different and doesn't even have to be reported to the police or proven to punish the rapists for life. And of course by rapists I mean men, because all men are rapists!
 
2013-03-19 03:24:41 AM

Jim_Callahan: 1. The crime occurred
2. The crime was actually committed by the defendant


however you don't need defend your character as it won't be an issue.
 
2013-03-19 03:26:12 AM

cardex: [N]ot defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town


For not defending them, you're doing a bang-up job of it.
 
2013-03-19 03:26:23 AM

WhyteRaven74: Jim_Callahan: 1. The crime occurred
2. The crime was actually committed by the defendant

however you don't need defend your character as it won't be an issue.


It will if you accuse someone with enough money to hire a lawyer worth their salt.
 
2013-03-19 03:31:11 AM

stoli n coke: GAT_00: Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?

Bet they're cheerleaders.


Possibly. After all the craziness of the Sandusky trial, I learned just how much jocksniffers are willing to forgive because FOOTBALL!

Fortunately, social media and technology have made it near impossible for idiot criminals to keep their mouths shut.


Isn't it amazing how much celebrity you can get from being good at crashing into other people?
 
2013-03-19 03:31:25 AM

cardex: And as I said I was not defending the guys


What you said you were doing and what you did are two entirely different things.
 
2013-03-19 03:31:47 AM

doglover: Jim_Callahan: Um, when someone robs you or shoots you or something, you also have to prove:

1. The crime occurred
2. The crime was actually committed by the defendant

Don't you understand that we live in a rape culture! Rape is totally different and doesn't even have to be reported to the police or proven to punish the rapists for life. And of course by rapists I mean men, because all men are rapists!


Yeah.  That was the line.  Definitely done with you.
 
2013-03-19 03:32:01 AM

the ha ha guy: ADHD Librarian: In a situation where someone is impaired by alcohol (yay, teenage party), they are unable to (by law in most jurisdictions) consent to a sexual encounter. If both participants are impaired, how does a legal system decide which one is the rapist?


Easy. The FBI says men can't be victims of rape, therefore it's impossible for the woman to be a rapist.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/frequently-asked-questions/ucr_ fa qs
For UCR reporting purposes, can a male be raped?

No. The UCR Program defines forcible rape as "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will" (p. 19). In addition, "By definition, sexual attacks on males are excluded from the rape category and must be classified as assaults or other sex offenses depending on the nature of the crime and the extent of injury".


You could have just said this is rape rape because she didn't get pregnant
/thanks Obama
 
2013-03-19 03:32:05 AM
publikenemy:

Given that you apparently live in a world where raping while black with black friends is a successful defence I can see why you would struggle with the real world.
 
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