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2013-03-19 01:37:25 AM  

CWeinerWV: I mean, you can't teach empathy or class, but for Christ's sake why haven't these soulless assholes learned to stop posting this shiat on the internet!


My first thought on seeing your post

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15052506/images/130640 73 91502.jpg  (NSFW)
 
2013-03-19 01:41:41 AM  

BunkoSquad: It's basically time to burn Steubenville to the ground and salt the earth so nothing grows again there, isn't it?


That's a start. I propose the following:
-Life in prison as well as surgical castration and penectomy for the rapists
-Tithe the incomes of the population of Steubenville to pay for anything the victim might need at a rate of 25% per year. Make any attempt to fight this decree punishable by seizure of ALL assets
-Do same for anyone posting support for the rapists in social media or any other forum and for the talking heads at CNN et al who doubtless deliberately leaked the victim's name
Americans are very big on rape, and the only thing that will cure this fetish is constant, permanent punishment for those who indulge in it, be it through the actual act or by showing support for the act and its perpetrators.
 
2013-03-19 01:42:43 AM  

WillofJ2: An I know this isnt all cases but women/girls are so amazingly brutal towards each other especially in things like this, some odd lack of empathy that becomes aggression towards some victims


I had a cousin when I was younger explain to me that when boys/men fight, it's a physical slug fest and it's pretty much over.  Girls/Women are nastier when they fight because they don't go for the quick fight and it's over with.  They fight long term, they get nasty, dirty, there are no limits to what they will do to each other.
 
2013-03-19 01:43:55 AM  

GreenSun: Wow, high profile case, then you threaten the victim. Gaining unwanted negative attention didn't cross their minds?!


Kind of like roaches in a basement no one has been down to in ten years.
 
2013-03-19 01:45:46 AM  
WWWD?


/What would Whoopi do?
 
2013-03-19 01:46:37 AM  

CWeinerWV: Therion: I say we take off and nuke the entire site (Ohio) from orbit, just to be sure.

As someone who lives directly on the other side of the river, I support this.  Say what you want about WV but it's rednecks on one side in PA and these types next door in Ohio that make this area look horrendous.

Honestly, other than people associated with the school, people in this area don't support the cover-up.  We were outraged, just powerless against it.  People around here are tired of the violent crime, drug problem, and break-ins/robberies that go unreported, and this is the icing on the cake.  Without the national spotlight it would've been swept under the rug by people associated with the school, because there's an incestuous relationship between the school and those in power in the area.  You only hear the idiots, you don't hear all the people that wanted this pursued, or wanted to speak up but were afraid for this very reason.  Obviously I'm not talking about the ones that refused to cooperate because of being associated with the act, but those that may have had knowledge or wanted to bring attention to it but didn't feel safe enough to speak up.


From west Virginia also, and I cringe when I hear the mud slinged in our direction. If people could see what a proud and dignified people we are (mostly), I want to tell them.... but they wont see the light.

/lets meet up, drink some moonglow, and try to come up with a plan. BY GOD! Go mounties!
 
2013-03-19 01:46:51 AM  

SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.


It doesn't surprise me a bit.  Popular guys can't be guilty!  Therefore their accuser must be in the wrong and is evil for having framed them for rape.

germ78: Step one: remove rape victim and her family from Steubenville area.
Step two: nuke Steubenville from orbit.
problem solved


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
 
2013-03-19 01:47:41 AM  

ReverendJynxed: WWWD?


/What would Whoopi do?


Support the rapists???
 
2013-03-19 01:48:48 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.

Oh, just stick around in the thread.  You'll see lots here.  Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.

Makes me farking sick.


Once again, the Onion is prophetic
 
2013-03-19 01:51:07 AM  

GAT_00: Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?

Bet they're cheerleaders.



Possibly. After all the craziness of the Sandusky trial, I learned just how much jocksniffers are willing to forgive because FOOTBALL!

Fortunately, social media and technology have made it near impossible for idiot criminals to keep their mouths shut.
 
2013-03-19 01:52:44 AM  
Interesting.  A state with a significant percentage of functionally illiterate people, and a small town high school therein has 19 football coaches.    Holy crap, America, your priorities are totally farked up.
 
2013-03-19 01:52:52 AM  
Goddamnitsomuch.

None of this would have happened if we all just remembered one simple fact. Rape is OK if you play sports.
 
2013-03-19 01:53:15 AM  

SilentStrider: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh, just stick around in the thread. You'll see lots here. Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.

Makes me farking sick.

Oh I lurked in the verdict thread. I saw enough to last a lifetime.


I posted some in the thread about CNN's coverage, but then couldn't stick around because it was making me hate humanity.
 
2013-03-19 01:53:54 AM  

ReverendJynxed: WWWD?


/What would Whoopi do?


Depends, was it rape, or rape rape?
 
2013-03-19 01:54:11 AM  
What sick little biatches they are.

WTF is wrong with kids these days??
 
2013-03-19 01:56:16 AM  

Lorelle: What sick little biatches they are.

WTF is wrong with kids these days??


raised on mtv, simpsons and family guy.

giggity

role models? bill clinton, kobe bryant....
 
2013-03-19 01:56:33 AM  

GAT_00: As bad as it still is for women who are victims of rape, it is actually worse if a man gets raped by a woman.  The almost universal reaction is of disbelief.



I know this firsthand. I tries to press charges against the woman who raped me when I was a teenager, and the reactions were always some variation of "congratulations" or "women can't commit rape" (usually both). Literally nobody took me seriously.

/No, it wasn't as enjoyable as you think. She used a dildo.
 
2013-03-19 01:57:46 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Snarfangel: You're mad because I used "misanthropic" in a sentence, aren't you.

No, I'm mad because of the double standard of a rape case.  Not at you.

BTW, though - and this is not snark, it's a continuation on your point - do you think things would be different if it were a case of a man being raped?  I thought men were really terrible to male rape victims.




It's the primary deterent for prison.
prisonsociety.typepad.com
 
2013-03-19 01:57:59 AM  
You trolls (future trolls...and past trolls in the other thread) are aware there are Farkettes (including myself) (and Farkers) that have been raped.  Show some respect.  Nothing but love here, yeah!?  <3
 
2013-03-19 01:58:43 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Snarfangel: By the way, I am not suggesting that women are normally nicer than men (that's an argument for another day). I'm just saying that if a couple of woman ganged up and cut off  some innocent guy's Mr. Happy while he was drunk and forwarded pictures of the crime to all of their friends, I don't think a whole lot of men would make threats to the victim if the women were convicted. They would at least have some empathy at how horrific such a crime was.

Yes, even if they were 15 and 16 years old, and the women were beach volleyball stars or whatever. There are some things you just don't do.

Different crime.  When Mr. Happy is damaged, the man is unquestionably wronged.  No one asks whether he wanted it.

When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


They all want it.
 
2013-03-19 01:58:59 AM  

FunkOut: puffy999: Athletics trumps all when it comes to young society.

The ability to understand advanced mathematics or chemistry is nothing compared to running, jumping, catching,rolling over, and fetching.



You might want to understand a little more biology, there, Professor. Athletic ability is an indicator of strengh, which is attractive in the hunter/gatherer sense. Just like the root of attraction to large breasts and nice hips is indicative of a woman who can have and take care of children more easily.

It's been part of our DNA since the caveman days. Back then, the guys who whined about not getting chicks because they understood advanced math usually froze to death.
 
2013-03-19 01:59:09 AM  
High school football, man. It's the worst waste of everybody's time, but people take that shiat seriously and revere the douchebags who play it. Especially in a small town.

High school football makes people in small towns stupid.
 
2013-03-19 02:00:23 AM  

the ha ha guy: GAT_00: As bad as it still is for women who are victims of rape, it is actually worse if a man gets raped by a woman.  The almost universal reaction is of disbelief.


I know this firsthand. I tries to press charges against the woman who raped me when I was a teenager, and the reactions were always some variation of "congratulations" or "women can't commit rape" (usually both). Literally nobody took me seriously.

/No, it wasn't as enjoyable as you think. She used a dildo.

blondelogic.typepad.com
 
2013-03-19 02:03:10 AM  
farking Ohio. Gotta get outta there.

Seriously, actual humanity has no place here. Just jocksniffing meatheads and the people that blow them. Steubenville is just Columbus and Cleveland and Cinci writ smaller.

If some OSU shiatball was stupid enough to videotape him and his buddies gang raping some passed out coed, the city would riot if you tried to convict them. I'm not even kidding. Bro culture rules supreme here and if you don't constantly suck frat bro/football bro cock constantly, you are basically an outsider.
 
2013-03-19 02:03:16 AM  

BunkoSquad: It's basically time to burn Steubenville to the ground and salt the earth so nothing grows again there, isn't it?


If you've ever been to Stuebenville, you'd know it'd been time for the last 50 years.
 
2013-03-19 02:03:22 AM  

Skyday: You trolls (future trolls...and past trolls in the other thread) are aware there are Farkettes (including myself) (and Farkers) that have been raped.  Show some respect.  Nothing but love here, yeah!?  <3


Or had someone close to them raped and saw the psychological damage that stayed with her for years and will always be lingering in the back of her mind, no matter what.
 
2013-03-19 02:06:44 AM  
America has the moral fiber of India.
 
2013-03-19 02:07:06 AM  
If you follow high school sports as an adult, you need to get a farking life.
 
2013-03-19 02:08:09 AM  
When rape is outlawed, only outlaws will...ah farkit, this news just plain sucks.
 
2013-03-19 02:09:26 AM  

johnsmith99: It's always a bad sign when a small town is proud of it's high school football heritage.  The last thing you should do is make celebrities out of a bunch of 17 year old boys.
Really, also, just shiatty parenting all the way around.


This. Football alone didn't cause this, anymore than football caused the Penn State rapes. It's when entire communities decide that the school sports program is their meaning for existence that anything that could disrupt it gets brushed aside (if you're lucky) or stomped down (if you're not). Not only does it lead to crap like this, but it leaves a truly farked-up mindset in the people who graduate and then spend the rest of their lives in the same town thinking nothing they ever do will ever be as important as being a 17-year-old playing a game. After a couple of generations of raising kids in an environment like that and you have a community that isn't too far removed morally from Lord of the Flies.

You know, I don't look at every grad of Penn State as automatically complicit in the Sandusky/Paterno case, but this? The way so many in the school, the town, the police, and the local government all deliberately tried to make this go away, never giving a damn for anything but the image of their star athletes? Fark me, this is simply a town that needs to be walled off and left to starve.
 
2013-03-19 02:09:26 AM  

GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.


Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.
 
2013-03-19 02:12:18 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it. Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."


The problem is, it's a finding of fact. How do you determine whether a girl changed her mind before, during, or after? How do you determine if a guy had a .12 BAC and a girl had a .09 BAC, and the sex was otherwise consensual, who raped whom? As terrible as it is, there is no way to both be fair to the accuser and maintain a standard of reasonable doubt for the defendant. This is one of the unfortunate facts of life.

**Note that none of the above applies to this case. These guys were smart enough to have multiple witnesses and video evidence, so all questions of fact are conveniently answered for them. The only question now is how good they were at football, apparently.
 
2013-03-19 02:13:19 AM  

OgreMagi: Skyday: You trolls (future trolls...and past trolls in the other thread) are aware there are Farkettes (including myself) (and Farkers) that have been raped.  Show some respect.  Nothing but love here, yeah!?  <3

Or had someone close to them raped and saw the psychological damage that stayed with her for years and will always be lingering in the back of her mind, no matter what.


Exactly.
 
2013-03-19 02:15:09 AM  
Benevolent Misanthrope: 

When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.



She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town
 
2013-03-19 02:15:34 AM  

cmb53208: If you follow high school sports as an adult, you need to get a farking life.


They have lives, just not ones they like. For a lot of the hardcore high school football fans in my hometown, their days playing ball were the best their lives were or ever will get. Once they realized they wouldn't be Super Bowl heroes by age 20, they settled into a slow boil of a crap job, an annoying wife, dumb kids, and no hope for escape.

Those ten Friday nights a year are practically all they have.
 
2013-03-19 02:16:17 AM  

cmb53208: If you follow high school sports as an adult, you need to get a farking life.


This.

I hope the feds put the girl in the witness protection program. I know it doesn't work like that, but she needs a whole new life after this.
 
2013-03-19 02:16:34 AM  

Codenamechaz: Benevolent Misanthrope: SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.

Oh, just stick around in the thread.  You'll see lots here.  Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.

Makes me farking sick.

Once again, the Onion is prophetic


Wow cnn should play that to its people watch this may give them hope

Great Janitor: WillofJ2: An I know this isnt all cases but women/girls are so amazingly brutal towards each other especially in things like this, some odd lack of empathy that becomes aggression towards some victims

I had a cousin when I was younger explain to me that when boys/men fight, it's a physical slug fest and it's pretty much over.  Girls/Women are nastier when they fight because they don't go for the quick fight and it's over with.  They fight long term, they get nasty, dirty, there are no limits to what they will do to each other.


Yeah, the whole hell fury women scorned thing especially towards another woman, was one of the craziest things about dorm life in college saw wicked things.
 
2013-03-19 02:16:46 AM  

cardex: Benevolent Misanthrope:
When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town


Are you seriously defending rapists... because "she was a slut" and "football". You belong in this state.
 
2013-03-19 02:17:58 AM  
I will agree I don't have much good to say about that part of Ohio, but maybe the problem is football. Why does Notre Dame still have a football team and the same question for Steubenville. I enjoy participating in team sports and strategy makes football about the only sport I could imagine watching if I had time. However, the collateral damage from HS and NCAA is unacceptable and do not even consider the damage caused by the "pros."
 
2013-03-19 02:17:59 AM  
AND, this is why, when I get raped, I don't go blabbin' my business to everybody. It's a wonder I haven't been knocked up yet.
 
2013-03-19 02:20:31 AM  

cardex: Benevolent Misanthrope: 

When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town


Oh, look.  Another moron defending the rapists.  No, she is 0% responsible for getting rape.  When you pass out drunk with supposed friends, you get sharpie moustache picture posted on facebook that you laugh about the next day.  You don't get dragged unconscious from party to party, half naked, and sexually abused.

The blame is on the rapists, their parents for not teaching them right from wrong, and the community for creating and encouraging this kind of behavior.
 
2013-03-19 02:21:04 AM  
GungFu:

l3.yimg.com
I don't get it. How can he be guilty? Look at what he's wearing! And he doesn't even play golf!

Ooohhhhh, but look at that darkie next to him. Tell me that ain't the guilty look of a rapin', stank-fanger player. He's looking at the little white girl, and still trying to taste what's left off his thumb.
 
2013-03-19 02:21:22 AM  

Dafatone: GAT_00: Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.

Someday we'll have a thread on this subject where "cry rape" doesn't get brought up.

Someday.


It happens. Nobody knows how often it happens, but it definitely happens. While the words "cry rape" are pretty insensitive, the fact remains that it is hard to prove that any particular woman was "date raped". (God, how I hate that term.)
So, WTF can we do about it? We can't assume that any accuser is automatically telling the truth. We can't assume that any accuser is automatically lying. We can't assume that any accuser is automatically exaggerating. We can't read their f*cking minds. Polygraphs are inadmissible in court, for what I can only assume are good reasons. The only thing I know to do is to tell girls to fight. At least if there are physical injuries, there is evidence. Punch, claw, scratch, kick, bite. And accept that you might get your face irreparably smashed in, or your life abruptly ended. WTF, that doesn't work, either.
 
2013-03-19 02:22:41 AM  

neongoats: cardex: Benevolent Misanthrope:
When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town

Are you seriously defending rapists... because "she was a slut" and "football". You belong in this state.


Except that Cardex is right.
 
2013-03-19 02:23:27 AM  

In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
Subdivisions --
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out

 
2013-03-19 02:24:37 AM  

cardex: She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town

100% guilty.

FTFY, stupid.
 
2013-03-19 02:25:25 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: neongoats: cardex: Benevolent Misanthrope:
When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town

Are you seriously defending rapists... because "she was a slut" and "football". You belong in this state.

Except that Cardex is right.


Sorry, no. Unless "loves rapists" makes him "right".

I mean, it might make him "right wing" but not "correct".
 
2013-03-19 02:25:56 AM  

cardex: She has every right to say no up to the point it's over, not 2 weeks later then decide it was rape not defending the guys but in this place they are only 33% to blame the girl is 17% and her parents are 50% for not teaching her not to get shiat face drunk and farking every guy in town


Assholes, assholes everywhere.
 
2013-03-19 02:27:53 AM  

Generation_D: Sh*theel local politics and good-ol-boy bullcrap in a famously football-centric town were winning out until international lights were shone, which is where Anonymous came in.


That's a bit surprising to me, given how much Anonymous favors rape.
 
2013-03-19 02:31:05 AM  
http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/

This has to be the saddest tumblr I have ever found. Humanity blows.
 
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