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(Fox 8 Cleveland)   You thought it was over? Two Steubenville girls arrested for tweeting threats against the Steubenville rape victim. Sick tag unresponsive in a corner somewhere   (fox8.com) divider line 505
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2013-03-18 11:56:22 PM
F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.
 
2013-03-19 12:02:09 AM

SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.


Oh, just stick around in the thread.  You'll see lots here.  Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.

Makes me farking sick.
 
2013-03-19 12:03:32 AM
WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?
 
2013-03-19 12:03:52 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh, just stick around in the thread. You'll see lots here. Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.

Makes me farking sick.


Oh I lurked in the verdict thread. I saw enough to last a lifetime.
 
2013-03-19 12:05:11 AM
What gets me is that the major reason the state was able to make a case against the duo is because they and their friends tweeted/instagrammed/youtubed all about it, and these two girls apparently didn't get the message to not say stupid stuff that could get you in trouble with the law on easily traceable social networks.

Really, it's astounding how many members of today's youth think that what they say/post on any social network can't come back to bite them in the ass.
 
2013-03-19 12:05:30 AM
So does this mean we can legally rape the tweeters?

I mean after we sufficiently ply them with alcohol of course.
 
2013-03-19 12:05:51 AM

Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?


Bet they're cheerleaders.
 
2013-03-19 12:06:43 AM
Girls making threats against a rape victim? Who knew Ben Roethlisberger still had fans after last year's performance?
 
2013-03-19 12:10:44 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Really, it's astounding how many members of today's youth think that what they say/post on any social network can't come back to bite them in the ass.


It's not just the idiot kids. How many of your Facebook friends posted that idiotic faux-legalese about "photo copyrights" that they cross-their-hearts-and-hope-to-die KNEW would magically undo the "tl;dr" end-user contract they agreed to with the site and prevent Evil Zuckerberg from making even more billions by using the blurry photo of their cats posted on the timeline?

But, yes, these kids *are* layering on a bonus level of weapons-grade stupidity considering the convictions happened in large part to the criminals courteously posting the evidence of their crime for the police.
 
2013-03-19 12:11:15 AM
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2013-03-19 12:12:21 AM
It's basically time to burn Steubenville to the ground and salt the earth so nothing grows again there, isn't it?
 
2013-03-19 12:17:17 AM
Seriously, you could just go on cha-cha and get the name right now. Hiding the girl is the exact opposite of what they should have done.

People are stupid, and if you look like you're hiding something, they'll side against you. Or simply, out of sight, out of mind.
 
2013-03-19 12:18:47 AM

GAT_00: Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?

Bet they're cheerleaders.


Stereotyping? From my GAT_00? It's more disappointing than you think.
 
2013-03-19 12:22:13 AM
By the way, I am not suggesting that women are normally nicer than men (that's an argument for another day). I'm just saying that if a couple of woman ganged up and cut off  some innocent guy's Mr. Happy while he was drunk and forwarded pictures of the crime to all of their friends, I don't think a whole lot of men would make threats to the victim if the women were convicted. They would at least have some empathy at how horrific such a crime was.

Yes, even if they were 15 and 16 years old, and the women were beach volleyball stars or whatever. There are some things you just don't do.
 
2013-03-19 12:28:12 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh, just stick around in the thread. You'll see lots here. Not to mention CNN, who made the story about how two young men's promising athletic careers would be ruined by the verdict.

Makes me farking sick.


You mean a girl named Poppy is an abject idiot and CNN ran with it? I'm shocked!
 
2013-03-19 12:29:13 AM

Snarfangel: By the way, I am not suggesting that women are normally nicer than men (that's an argument for another day). I'm just saying that if a couple of woman ganged up and cut off  some innocent guy's Mr. Happy while he was drunk and forwarded pictures of the crime to all of their friends, I don't think a whole lot of men would make threats to the victim if the women were convicted. They would at least have some empathy at how horrific such a crime was.

Yes, even if they were 15 and 16 years old, and the women were beach volleyball stars or whatever. There are some things you just don't do.


Different crime.  When Mr. Happy is damaged, the man is unquestionably wronged.  No one asks whether he wanted it.

When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.
 
2013-03-19 12:32:54 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Snarfangel: By the way, I am not suggesting that women are normally nicer than men (that's an argument for another day). I'm just saying that if a couple of woman ganged up and cut off  some innocent guy's Mr. Happy while he was drunk and forwarded pictures of the crime to all of their friends, I don't think a whole lot of men would make threats to the victim if the women were convicted. They would at least have some empathy at how horrific such a crime was.

Yes, even if they were 15 and 16 years old, and the women were beach volleyball stars or whatever. There are some things you just don't do.

Different crime.  When Mr. Happy is damaged, the man is unquestionably wronged.  No one asks whether he wanted it.

When a woman is raped, she is generally the one on trial, and has to prove she didn't ask for it.  Which pisses me off on alot of levels, because - even if she did consent, this implies that a woman doesn't have the right to say, "Stop."

Sick, but that's the way it is.  It's the prevailing tactic for rape defense, and was absolutely openly used in this case.


You're mad because I used "misanthropic" in a sentence, aren't you.
 
2013-03-19 12:33:45 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: GAT_00: Snarfangel: WTF is wrong with some people? And girls? Not just misanthropic basement-dwelling Cheeto-stained football nuts?

Bet they're cheerleaders.

Stereotyping? From my GAT_00? It's more disappointing than you think.


omnibus_necanda_sunt: Seriously, you could just go on cha-cha and get the name right now. Hiding the girl is the exact opposite of what they should have done.

People are stupid, and if you look like you're hiding something, they'll side against you. Or simply, out of sight, out of mind.


Yeah, I'm going to consider valid the opinion of someone who thinks the problem with all of this is that we haven't made a spectacle out of the victim for being raped.
 
2013-03-19 12:36:43 AM
Goddamn. People can sure be stupid, heartless assholes.
 
2013-03-19 12:39:33 AM

Snarfangel: You're mad because I used "misanthropic" in a sentence, aren't you.


No, I'm mad because of the double standard of a rape case.  Not at you.

BTW, though - and this is not snark, it's a continuation on your point - do you think things would be different if it were a case of a man being raped?  I thought men were really terrible to male rape victims.
 
2013-03-19 12:43:21 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: TuteTibiImperes: Really, it's astounding how many members of today's youth think that what they say/post on any social network can't come back to bite them in the ass.

It's not just the idiot kids. How many of your Facebook friends posted that idiotic faux-legalese about "photo copyrights" that they cross-their-hearts-and-hope-to-die KNEW would magically undo the "tl;dr" end-user contract they agreed to with the site and prevent Evil Zuckerberg from making even more billions by using the blurry photo of their cats posted on the timeline?

But, yes, these kids *are* layering on a bonus level of weapons-grade stupidity considering the convictions happened in large part to the criminals courteously posting the evidence of their crime for the police.


I was seeing that post so much for a while that I had the snopes page about it bookmarked for easy copy/pasting
 
2013-03-19 12:43:40 AM

Snarfangel: By the way, I am not suggesting that women are normally nicer than men (that's an argument for another day). I'm just saying that if a couple of woman ganged up and cut off  some innocent guy's Mr. Happy while he was drunk and forwarded pictures of the crime to all of their friends, I don't think a whole lot of men would make threats to the victim if the women were convicted. They would at least have some empathy at how horrific such a crime was.

Yes, even if they were 15 and 16 years old, and the women were beach volleyball stars or whatever. There are some things you just don't do.


The scenario there is more than a little bit different.  If they had mutilated her genitals I believe it would be much harder for anyone to come out in support of them.

Now, if two women had taken a passed-out drunken guy and had their way with him sexually, I think you'd find a lot of men laughing at the guy for pressing charges and a lot of people saying things like 'wow, lucky him, where were girls like that when I was in high school'.
 
2013-03-19 12:50:15 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Snarfangel: You're mad because I used "misanthropic" in a sentence, aren't you.

No, I'm mad because of the double standard of a rape case.  Not at you.

BTW, though - and this is not snark, it's a continuation on your point - do you think things would be different if it were a case of a man being raped?  I thought men were really terrible to male rape victims.


As bad as it still is for women who are victims of rape, it is actually worse if a man gets raped by a woman.  The almost universal reaction is of disbelief.

Add this to the fact that some women have been shown to simply cry rape if they regretted a decision to sleep with someone because it would ruin a relationship, or simply cry it for attention, and there are still severe problems all around.  Women get harassed for making a claim quite often, and other women discredit real claims by falsely crying rape without any real consequence.

And even with all of that, it's still better than it was 10 years ago.  Pretty sad state all around.
 
2013-03-19 12:53:01 AM
Just when you thought Steubenville couldn't get any classier.
 
2013-03-19 12:57:28 AM

SilentStrider: F*cking amazing. The fact that those two assholes have garnered the slightest bit of sympathy floors me.


The entire town was blowing off doing anything til Anonymous amped up the international pressure. It was a little dorkysh*t town on lockdown that loved its football more than the law, and this was true for weeks.

Go back and read the whole history of this thing. The youtube vid ("She is *so raped*) was up for weeks, local police did nothing. Coach did nothing. Town did nothing.

Sh*theel local politics and good-ol-boy bullcrap in a famously football-centric town were winning out until international lights were shone, which is where Anonymous came in.
 
2013-03-19 01:22:38 AM
 
2013-03-19 01:24:59 AM
I say we take off and nuke the entire site (Ohio) from orbit, just to be sure.
 
2013-03-19 01:25:29 AM
Time to nuke.
 
2013-03-19 01:25:51 AM
hell in a handbasket i tell ya! that's where this country is headed.
 
2013-03-19 01:27:02 AM
Remind me again how playing high school sports builds character.
 
2013-03-19 01:27:04 AM
I mean, you can't teach empathy or class, but for Christ's sake why haven't these soulless assholes learned to stop posting this shiat on the internet!
 
2013-03-19 01:29:19 AM
This whole athlete worship thing is just a cover for an alien breeding program to create the finest, stupidest meat humans possible. You see, the town jocks are regarded as studs that are meant to breed the womenfolk of the town and it's their duty to rape their way to a fine crop of beefy delicious yokels.
 
2013-03-19 01:29:24 AM

CWeinerWV: I mean, you can't teach empathy or class, but for Christ's sake why haven't these soulless assholes learned to stop posting this shiat on the internet!


these are talking monkeys, not humans. they aren't that smart, and don't have the compassion that a human would have,
 
2013-03-19 01:29:46 AM
I wonder what their FARK handles are?
 
2013-03-19 01:30:44 AM
Athletics trumps all when it comes to young society.
 
2013-03-19 01:31:34 AM
Step one: remove rape victim and her family from Steubenville area.
Step two: nuke Steubenville from orbit.
problem solved
 
2013-03-19 01:31:53 AM
"Rape" victim
 
2013-03-19 01:32:11 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Just when you thought Steubenville couldn't get any classier.


Everybody loves somebody, sometime. It's just that sometimes they're unconscious.
 
2013-03-19 01:33:14 AM
Steubenville: I live (relatively) right up the road, and I am ashamed.

/don't blame the place, blame the ignorant people.
//jocks and athletic supporters (pun intended) are assholes.
 
2013-03-19 01:33:26 AM
One 16-year-old female is in custody as is a 15-year-old female.

Excellent reporting.
 
2013-03-19 01:33:47 AM
l3.yimg.com

I don't get it. How can he be guilty? Look at what he's wearing! And he doesn't even play golf!
 
2013-03-19 01:33:55 AM
If you get drunk and pass out at a party then you deserve whatever happens to you.  Of course, that should be things like having a mustache drawn on your face or having your hand put in a bowl of warm water or tying your shoes together.  Being sexually groped or molested or raped are NOT on the approved list of things you can do to someone who is drunk and passed out.  Castrate the two monsters.  Then fry 'em up and make them eat it.
 
2013-03-19 01:34:22 AM
Stories like this makes me happy that I never got into sports.  I can't imagine being so devoted to a sport that all who are involved are such heroes that they are above the law and anyone who reports them for rape becomes the subject of death threats.  "Sorry you got raped, but your rapers are BETTER people than you because they can play a sport, so keep your mouth shut and don't ruin their promising careers."

At what point do we put this girl and her family into some sort of witness protection program, because that's apparently what's going to be needed at this point.  I'm taking bets that by Friday someone will have attempted an attack on her, or actually attacked her.
 
2013-03-19 01:34:23 AM

puffy999: Athletics trumps all when it comes to young society.


The ability to understand advanced mathematics or chemistry is nothing compared to running, jumping, catching,rolling over, and fetching.
 
2013-03-19 01:35:21 AM
It's always a bad sign when a small town is proud of it's high school football heritage.  The last thing you should do is make celebrities out of a bunch of 17 year old boys.
Really, also, just shiatty parenting all the way around.
 
2013-03-19 01:35:30 AM

GungFu: [l3.yimg.com image 630x427]

I don't get it. How can he be guilty? Look at what he's wearing! And he doesn't even play golf!


They're hoping that sweater vest will convince the judge that he is actually a homosexual.
 
2013-03-19 01:35:40 AM
An I know this isnt all cases but women/girls are so amazingly brutal towards each other especially in things like this, some odd lack of empathy that becomes aggression towards some victims
 
2013-03-19 01:36:03 AM

Therion: I say we take off and nuke the entire site (Ohio) from orbit, just to be sure.


As someone who lives directly on the other side of the river, I support this.  Say what you want about WV but it's rednecks on one side in PA and these types next door in Ohio that make this area look horrendous.

Honestly, other than people associated with the school, people in this area don't support the cover-up.  We were outraged, just powerless against it.  People around here are tired of the violent crime, drug problem, and break-ins/robberies that go unreported, and this is the icing on the cake.  Without the national spotlight it would've been swept under the rug by people associated with the school, because there's an incestuous relationship between the school and those in power in the area.  You only hear the idiots, you don't hear all the people that wanted this pursued, or wanted to speak up but were afraid for this very reason.  Obviously I'm not talking about the ones that refused to cooperate because of being associated with the act, but those that may have had knowledge or wanted to bring attention to it but didn't feel safe enough to speak up.
 
2013-03-19 01:36:03 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: "Rape" victim


"Intelligent" comment.
 
2013-03-19 01:36:24 AM
Wow, high profile case, then you threaten the victim. Gaining unwanted negative attention didn't cross their minds?!
 
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