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2013-03-19 12:23:32 AM  
Is the scary tag hiding under that table, sobbing quietly, subby?


The only way I can imagine this is that the "unlicensed acupuncturist who's also a music teacher" re-used needles from patient to patient or something.

*shudder*
 
2013-03-19 12:36:05 AM  

johnnieconnie: Is the scary tag hiding under that table, sobbing quietly, subby?


The only way I can imagine this is that the "unlicensed acupuncturist who's also a music teacher" re-used needles from patient to patient or something.

*shudder*


I imagine that's how it happened, yes.  Which is why you really should avoid all kinds of hippy-dippy, scientifically unproven, woo-woo bullshiat when it comes to medical treatment.  That also counts acupuncture, chiropractors, homeopathy, faith healers, and Marvin Gaye.
 
2013-03-19 12:53:28 AM  
Good grief, are acupuncture needles that expensive?  Even if they are, a jug of rubbing alcohol to soak them in between patients isn't.  This seems almost too shortsighted and dumb to have been a purely accidental.
 
2013-03-19 12:59:52 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Good grief, are acupuncture needles that expensive?  Even if they are, a jug of rubbing alcohol to soak them in between patients isn't.  This seems almost too shortsighted and dumb to have been a purely accidental.


Seriously?  The guy is an amateur acupuncturist.  It surprises you that he may not have proper training, or may not believe in things like germ theory or sanitation?  Or care about regulations?
 
2013-03-19 01:03:41 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Good grief, are acupuncture needles that expensive?  Even if they are, a jug of rubbing alcohol to soak them in between patients isn't.  This seems almost too shortsighted and dumb to have been a purely accidental.

Seriously?  The guy is an amateur acupuncturist.  It surprises you that he may not have proper training, or may not believe in things like germ theory or sanitation?  Or care about regulations?


I have no medical training and even I know that putting needles into one person then into another person without sterilizing them first is just a recipe for bad news.  You'd think that this guy would have at least read a book about acupuncture first to know where to even stick the needles, and it might have mentioned sanitation/sterilization at some point.
 
2013-03-19 01:09:06 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Good grief, are acupuncture needles that expensive?  Even if they are, a jug of rubbing alcohol to soak them in between patients isn't.  This seems almost too shortsighted and dumb to have been a purely accidental.

Seriously?  The guy is an amateur acupuncturist.  It surprises you that he may not have proper training, or may not believe in things like germ theory or sanitation?  Or care about regulations?

I have no medical training and even I know that putting needles into one person then into another person without sterilizing them first is just a recipe for bad news.  You'd think that this guy would have at least read a book about acupuncture first to know where to even stick the needles, and it might have mentioned sanitation/sterilization at some point.


I'm inclined to believe you also know better than to stick needles into people based on a book you read.  Or start performing minor surgery because of a library book you checked out once.

Not that it was impossible for him to know, but it doesn't surprise me that he might not think it necessary, or perhaps didn't believe in "the establishment" germ theory.
 
2013-03-19 01:15:36 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Good grief, are acupuncture needles that expensive?  Even if they are, a jug of rubbing alcohol to soak them in between patients isn't.  This seems almost too shortsighted and dumb to have been a purely accidental.

Seriously?  The guy is an amateur acupuncturist.  It surprises you that he may not have proper training, or may not believe in things like germ theory or sanitation?  Or care about regulations?

I have no medical training and even I know that putting needles into one person then into another person without sterilizing them first is just a recipe for bad news.  You'd think that this guy would have at least read a book about acupuncture first to know where to even stick the needles, and it might have mentioned sanitation/sterilization at some point.

I'm inclined to believe you also know better than to stick needles into people based on a book you read.  Or start performing minor surgery because of a library book you checked out once.

Not that it was impossible for him to know, but it doesn't surprise me that he might not think it necessary, or perhaps didn't believe in "the establishment" germ theory.


You probably have a point.  I forgot about all of the people who believe in chemtrails, water fluoridation conspiracies, or that vaccinations cause autism.  I'm just not good at thinking from the POV of a nut.
 
2013-03-19 01:18:50 AM  
If these idiots realized acupuncture was bullshiat and that the placebo effect is extremely powerful, they wouldn't have had this problem.
 
2013-03-19 01:22:27 AM  
Probably just a rogue pretending to be a healer to scam young adventurers.  I seen it before in my line of work.
 
2013-03-19 03:54:15 AM  
Might I suggest popping a vicodin and downing a double of bourbon? Much safer.
 
2013-03-19 04:18:07 AM  
i173.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-19 04:19:29 AM  
Am I the only one who expected this to be sex-related somehow?
 
2013-03-19 04:23:03 AM  
Are they positive?
 
2013-03-19 04:26:06 AM  
Acupuncture may only be a step or two above homeopathy in terms of actually working but you would think that even the lowest grade moron would do better than this...

On the upside it will ultimately turn in to a bogus story about how acupuncture spreads HIV and people will quit paying these quacks for fake treatments. Try to find the silver lining... Nah, it's still horrible, that didn't help.
 
2013-03-19 04:40:11 AM  
Another round of acupuncture and they'll be fine.
 
2013-03-19 04:41:04 AM  
Religious dogma once again f*cks the poor. Who knew?
 
2013-03-19 04:42:03 AM  

randomjsa: Acupuncture may only be a step or two above homeopathy in terms of actually working but you would think that even the lowest grade moron would do better than this...

On the upside it will ultimately turn in to a bogus story about how acupuncture spreads HIV and people will quit paying these quacks for fake treatments. Try to find the silver lining... Nah, it's still horrible, that didn't help.


 the Iceman from The Alps had tattoos over acupuncture points.  Unless he didn't.  But anyway, some say he did.  I also read that acupuncture and chiropractic, along  with garlic and vinegar can cure almost  anything,  and will also  stop you from getting things.  And at least Homopaths talk to you to find out whats wrong, instead of just doing tests.
 
2013-03-19 04:43:19 AM  
How's that psuedoscience taste now, biatches?
 
2013-03-19 04:44:19 AM  
BUT he was also a music teacher
 
2013-03-19 04:45:29 AM  
What a prick.
 
2013-03-19 04:48:32 AM  

puffy999: Am I the only one who expected this to be sex-related somehow?


No, you are not. And this thread thus disappoints me, because I expected some doc with AIDS drilling his patients.

:(

Not some retard shaman with dirty needles infecting suckers. This is too sad to post a picture of a retarded pug.
 
2013-03-19 04:52:16 AM  
Say what you want, chiropractors are awesome.

You go once a week, get a great massage, have all your stiff joints cracked, and feel like a million bucks. It's pretty great.
 
2013-03-19 04:59:11 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Say what you want, chiropractors are awesome.

You go once a week, get a great massage, have all your stiff joints cracked, and feel like a million bucks. It's pretty great.


And then go back for 400 more treatments. Find a physical therapist you idiot.
 
2013-03-19 05:01:12 AM  
TuteTibiImperes: You probably have a point.  I forgot about all of the people who believe in chemtrails, water fluoridation conspiracies, or that vaccinations cause autism.  I'm just not good at thinking from the POV of a nut.

That's essentially the exact same demographic that believe in acupuncture and chiropractic nonsense, so... yeah, I'm not terribly surprised that they'd go one past being ignorant of science and medicine and cross over into actively denying basic known facts of biology in ways that end up being dangerous.

//Well, believing in the medicinal value of acupuncture and chiropracty, rather, I'm pretty sure they both exist, unfortunately I've seen it.
 
2013-03-19 05:02:50 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Worst... Meme... Ever...
 
2013-03-19 05:22:26 AM  
Yeah, music teachers are always who I go to for healing.  Hard to feel sorry for people this stupid.
 
2013-03-19 05:26:40 AM  
I would hope these charges are all for murder. Is there something in place for long time range murder? There's sure to be a precedent, with some skanky person who knows they have aids or hiv farking people.

If only there was worse than the death penalty.
 
2013-03-19 05:30:16 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: johnnieconnie: Is the scary tag hiding under that table, sobbing quietly, subby?


The only way I can imagine this is that the "unlicensed acupuncturist who's also a music teacher" re-used needles from patient to patient or something.

*shudder*

I imagine that's how it happened, yes.  Which is why you really should avoid all kinds of hippy-dippy, scientifically unproven, woo-woo bullshiat when it comes to medical treatment.  That also counts acupuncture, chiropractors, homeopathy, faith healers, and Marvin Gaye.


'Son, this is the last forty-five you're ever going to listen to.'

/elderly joke
//bad taste
///hint of slashy
 
2013-03-19 05:34:35 AM  

farkingismybusiness: What a prick.


Elderly physician is about to administer an injection to a sweet young thing.

'Now you're just going to feel a little prick.'

The patient bats his eyelashes.

'Why doctor, we've hardly even met.'

/ Brought to you by Cali gay humor
// You're welcome
 
2013-03-19 05:40:11 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Say what you want, chiropractors are awesome.

You go once a week, get a great massage, have all your stiff joints cracked, and feel like a million bucks. It's pretty great.


Not to mention that it's a practice with six thousand years of medical history behind it.

The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition, were practicing acupuncture, moxybustion and herbal medicine when you white folks' ancestors were living in peat bogs and painting themselves blue. And they're still doing it (in addition to appropriating western medical discoveries).

Just because you can't understand it, don't ridicule it.

Remember when your own medical men were laughing derisively when Pasteur suggested they wash their hands after treating a patient with an infectious condition.

And thus spreading infection merrily among the innocent supplicants.
 
2013-03-19 05:56:56 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: TuteTibiImperes: Good grief, are acupuncture needles that expensive?  Even if they are, a jug of rubbing alcohol to soak them in between patients isn't.  This seems almost too shortsighted and dumb to have been a purely accidental.

Seriously?  The guy is an amateur acupuncturist.  It surprises you that he may not have proper training, or may not believe in things like germ theory or sanitation?  Or care about regulations?

I have no medical training and even I know that putting needles into one person then into another person without sterilizing them first is just a recipe for bad news.  You'd think that this guy would have at least read a book about acupuncture first to know where to even stick the needles, and it might have mentioned sanitation/sterilization at some point.

I'm inclined to believe you also know better than to stick needles into people based on a book you read.  Or start performing minor surgery because of a library book you checked out once.

Not that it was impossible for him to know, but it doesn't surprise me that he might not think it necessary, or perhaps didn't believe in "the establishment" germ theory.

You probably have a point.  I forgot about all of the people who believe in chemtrails, water fluoridation conspiracies, or that vaccinations cause autism.  I'm just not good at thinking from the POV of a nut.


So why are you hanging out with the rest of us here?
 
2013-03-19 06:00:57 AM  

SpeedyBB: AverageAmericanGuy: Say what you want, chiropractors are awesome.

You go once a week, get a great massage, have all your stiff joints cracked, and feel like a million bucks. It's pretty great.

Not to mention that it's a practice with six thousand years of medical history behind it.

The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition, were practicing acupuncture, moxybustion and herbal medicine when you white folks' ancestors were living in peat bogs and painting themselves blue. And they're still doing it (in addition to appropriating western medical discoveries).

Just because you can't understand it, don't ridicule it.

Remember when your own medical men were laughing derisively when Pasteur suggested they wash their hands after treating a patient with an infectious condition.

And thus spreading infection merrily among the innocent supplicants.


Hook, line, and sinker.
 
2013-03-19 06:02:34 AM  

SpeedyBB: The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition, were practicing acupuncture, moxybustion and herbal medicine when you white folks' ancestors were living in peat bogs and painting themselves blue. And they're still doing it (in addition to appropriating western medical discoveries).


I'll keep that in mind the next time they send the US a shipment of contaminated drywall or dog food and toys contaminated with toxic materials.
 
2013-03-19 06:20:44 AM  

SpeedyBB: AverageAmericanGuy: Say what you want, chiropractors are awesome.

You go once a week, get a great massage, have all your stiff joints cracked, and feel like a million bucks. It's pretty great.

Not to mention that it's a practice with six thousand years of medical history behind it.

The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition, were practicing acupuncture, moxybustion and herbal medicine when you white folks' ancestors were living in peat bogs and painting themselves blue. And they're still doing it (in addition to appropriating western medical discoveries).

Just because you can't understand it, don't ridicule it.

Remember when your own medical men were laughing derisively when Pasteur suggested they wash their hands after treating a patient with an infectious condition.

And thus spreading infection merrily among the innocent supplicants.


Just because something has been done/believed for a long time does not mean it actually works. Otherwise we should immediately add prayer and faith healing to the list of medically approved therapies.
And the Chinese not being superstitious... er no. My Chinese inlaws believe in a whole host of weird whacky superstitious crap.
 
2013-03-19 06:21:35 AM  
Just because you can't understand it, don't ridicule it.

I understand it just fine thank you. I am a PT, and if you don't want to follow sound advise, by all means keep paying your chiropractor all of your money. OR... Go see a licensed Physical Therapist and get to the root of your problem/pain. Its up to you. I'm going to bed now. All free medical advice ends here.
 
2013-03-19 06:22:18 AM  
This is so farked up.
 
2013-03-19 06:22:26 AM  
acupuncture remains popular because when people have it done, they feel and see undeniable results. Otherwise they wouldn't go back, QED. Suck on it, haters.
 
2013-03-19 06:28:25 AM  

SpeedyBB: The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition


hehehehe, errrrrr..... ummmm...

Im in Beijing right now and they ARE given to superstition. More so than any other race or group I have met. Particularly when it comes to medicine. There are no controls over medicine for the most part. There is a lot of good medicine but it is naive to make the claim that they are not given to superstition.
 
2013-03-19 06:29:42 AM  

willfullyobscure: acupuncture remains popular because when people have it done, they feel and see undeniable results. Otherwise they wouldn't go back, QED. Suck on it, haters.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
 
2013-03-19 06:30:21 AM  

SpeedyBB: The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition,


And that's how I know this post is a troll. Marriages spike on "auspicious" days with good astrological numbers, millions are paid for ground-up rhino horns to improve virility because horns look kinda like a boner, and every other business run by Chinese seems to have 8 somewhere in the name just because it shares a pronunciation with wealth or luck or whatever it was. The Chinese are probably the single most visibly superstitious group I know of. And that's despite the fact that I know Pakistanis whose parents still worry about djinn.
 
2013-03-19 06:33:55 AM  
A good chiropractor will work you into a routine where you need treatment less and less, because you suffer from less pain. The best ones also study other treatment methods as well.

The best combo I have ever had for working with my spinal injury was a combo of the chiro, accupuncture, deep tissue massage and treatments on my lower back with a tens unit, turned up pretty high to compensate for the nerve damage.

Physical therapy works good for the recovery stage of things, the other stuff I've gotten treated with works great for the upkeep afterward when it's done by someone that is practical and not all hippy dippy about it. The excersices from my physical therapy only get me so far before I wind up doing something stupid and need an adjustment. As I've seen it, it's the only thing that keeps me on this side of losing the use of my legs. It's not fun when that happens. Don't wanna wind up there again.
 
2013-03-19 06:40:52 AM  

SpeedyBB: Not to mention that it's a practice with six thousand years of medical history behind it.


Define "medical history".  The only medical history I'm aware of is when chiropractic has been clinically tested against the claims that it makes, and has been found wanting.

The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition...

You've got to be kidding.

Just because you can't understand it, don't ridicule it.

You're right, you should fully understand anything that you talk about, before you talk about it.  Fortunately, I understand chiropractic just fine, and so I'm able to talk about what unmitigated bullshiat it all is.

Remember when your own medical men were laughing derisively when Pasteur suggested they wash their hands after treating a patient with an infectious condition.

Ah, that tired old trope, the Galileo Gambit.  Unfortunately for you, using this gambit successfully requires not only that you are scorned by the establishment, but that you are also correct.
 
2013-03-19 06:46:23 AM  

willfullyobscure: acupuncture remains popular because when people have it done, they feel and see undeniable results. Otherwise they wouldn't go back, QED. Suck on it, haters.


The reason for this is well known and understood.  Most telling is that it doesn't matter if the patient is receiving "proper" acupuncture or not - people who receive either "real" or "sham" acupuncture report positive results.
 
2013-03-19 07:08:31 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I imagine that's how it happened, yes. Which is why you really should avoid all kinds of hippy-dippy, scientifically unproven, woo-woo bullshiat when it comes to medical treatment. That also counts acupuncture, chiropractors, homeopathy, faith healers, and Marvin Gaye.


Whether or not you believe in the efficacy of acupuncture, I think the moral of the story is to avoid unlicensed doctors. I mean, heart surgery has a pretty proven track record, but you wouldn't let your soccer coach perform a bypass because he read a book and looked at some websites. The acupuncture clinics I've been to were just as clean as any hospital with doctors who had received multiple years of training at universities.
 
2013-03-19 07:24:01 AM  
This guy's the worst healer ever?

Not according to every pug i've participated in.

/right before I /ragequit during the tank's pull
 
2013-03-19 07:24:16 AM  

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: SpeedyBB: The Chinese, not particularly known to be a people given to voodoo or superstitition,

And that's how I know this post is a troll. Marriages spike on "auspicious" days with good astrological numbers, millions are paid for ground-up rhino horns to improve virility because horns look kinda like a boner, and every other business run by Chinese seems to have 8 somewhere in the name just because it shares a pronunciation with wealth or luck or whatever it was. The Chinese are probably the single most visibly superstitious group I know of. And that's despite the fact that I know Pakistanis whose parents still worry about djinn.


Of course they are, haven't you seen those movies?
 
2013-03-19 07:24:52 AM  
his gear was ungemmed and unenchanted, and worst of all, his spec was dps
 
2013-03-19 07:33:16 AM  

Dinobot: his gear was ungemmed and unenchanted, and worst of all, his spec was dps


Even DPS-spec I can heal better than 90% of ...

you know what, just nevermind
 
2013-03-19 07:33:18 AM  

Deacon Blue: Homopaths


NTTAWWT
 
2013-03-19 07:40:19 AM  

RobSeace: Deacon Blue: Homopaths

NTTAWWT


Nobody's complimented  me on my troll yet.  I thought it was pretty good
 
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