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2013-03-18 10:27:36 PM
The $1,200, while it includes some interest, falls short of making up for the loss in the dollar's purchasing power over the intervening years. The stolen $800 would be worth about $1,800 today, based on changes in the consumer price index.

Yes, Mr. Reporter, I'm sure the guy with a 5th grade intellect consulted inflation adjusted CPI before sending his payment.

Jesus. It's a great story apart from the reporter being a dillhole.
 
2013-03-19 12:46:24 AM
So I should just steal money from people right now, invest it wisely, then give them their money back later with "interest" and keep whatever is left over? Seems like a weird society we have going on here.
 
2013-03-19 02:13:46 AM
Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.
 
2013-03-19 02:14:24 AM

jaylectricity: So I should just steal money from people right now, invest it wisely, then give them their money back later with "interest" and keep whatever is left over? Seems like a weird society we have going on here.


You just described banking, minus the giving it back part.
 
2013-03-19 02:22:25 AM

Ed Willy: jaylectricity: So I should just steal money from people right now, invest it wisely, then give them their money back later with "interest" and keep whatever is left over? Seems like a weird society we have going on here.

You just described banking, minus the giving it back part.



<Ed McMahon voice enabled>

You are correct SIR!

<Ed McMahon voice disabled>

a better description is the bank asking you to hold their bag of sand before they mount you, and as you are asking why they have a bag of sand, they mount you...ta da!
 
2013-03-19 02:23:04 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.


False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.
 
2013-03-19 02:25:36 AM
that he took it upon himself to prostrate himself in this fashion makes a case for him having some degree of rehabilitation, it should be encouraged and studied, not necessarily in that order
 
2013-03-19 02:26:39 AM


Undersheriff Bob Baker said the letter and cash came as quite a surprise.

"This doesn't happen every day," Baker said. "Have your crooks spayed or neutered."
 
2013-03-19 02:27:17 AM

doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.


If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.
 
2013-03-19 02:28:36 AM
Oh my good god, if your business is 800 away from failure...well...ta da!
 
2013-03-19 02:29:52 AM

Ed Willy: jaylectricity: So I should just steal money from people right now, invest it wisely, then give them their money back later with "interest" and keep whatever is left over? Seems like a weird society we have going on here.

You just described banking, minus the giving it back part.



Don't forget your bailout.
 
2013-03-19 02:30:51 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The damage incurred is compounded by time.


But forgiveness is a virtue, time heals all wounds, and let sleeping dogs lie QED lex talionis no est posible para mi, amigo.

That's how lawyers talk if you know Latin.
 
2013-03-19 02:31:11 AM
The $1,200, while it includes some interest, falls short of making up for the loss in the dollar's purchasing power over the intervening years. The stolen $800 would be worth about $1,800 today, based on changes in the consumer price index.

'Cause, yeah, you have to buy back your virtue at the going rate. That's the way the cosmic karma works alright - consumer price index.
 
2013-03-19 02:31:40 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.


Maybe the struggle inspired him to succeed when he though all was lost and became a great success.
 
2013-03-19 02:32:02 AM
I spent that stimulus on hookers and blow...so you know...right back into the econmoy

\did his part
\\am I doing this right
\\\lawn...come fix it you whipper snappers!
 
2013-03-19 02:36:19 AM

StoPPeRmobile: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.

Maybe the struggle inspired him to succeed when he though all was lost and became a great success.


If you're saying that we don't know how that 800 dollars would have changed the life of the business owner, you're right.

So let's call it even and cut the thief's hand off.
 
2013-03-19 02:42:29 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: StoPPeRmobile: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.

Maybe the struggle inspired him to succeed when he though all was lost and became a great success.

If you're saying that we don't know how that 800 dollars would have changed the life of the business owner, you're right.

So let's call it even and cut the thief's hand off.


You're forgetting a large part of the statute of limitations is it does more harm than good to punish tiny crimes from long ago.

The statue of limitations, on the other hand, mostly exists because we had some extra stone.
http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/contrib/c10837.jpg
 
2013-03-19 02:42:37 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: StoPPeRmobile: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.

Maybe the struggle inspired him to succeed when he though all was lost and became a great success.

If you're saying that we don't know how that 800 dollars would have changed the life of the business owner, you're right.

So let's call it even and cut the thief's hand off.


Well of course, that is the most productive course of action...or maybe...just maybe...this is an act of contrition.  Perhaps should be lauded, and maybe even shows that there is hope yet left for humanity?  I leave it to you to decide for yourself  AverageAmericanGuy
 
2013-03-19 02:43:53 AM

Puffy McBooze: AverageAmericanGuy: StoPPeRmobile: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.

Maybe the struggle inspired him to succeed when he though all was lost and became a great success.

If you're saying that we don't know how that 800 dollars would have changed the life of the business owner, you're right.

So let's call it even and cut the thief's hand off.

Well of course, that is the most productive course of action...or maybe...just maybe...this is an act of contrition.  Perhaps should be lauded, and maybe even shows that there is hope yet left for humanity?  I leave it to you to decide for yourself  AverageAmericanGuy


Choppy Choppy!
 
2013-03-19 02:44:15 AM

Hector Remarkable: The $1,200, while it includes some interest, falls short of making up for the loss in the dollar's purchasing power over the intervening years. The stolen $800 would be worth about $1,800 today, based on changes in the consumer price index.

'Cause, yeah, you have to buy back your virtue at the going rate. That's the way the cosmic karma works alright - consumer price index.


That is one of the funniest comments I have read on Fark in ages.

/I bow to you sir.
 
2013-03-19 02:57:05 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Choppy Choppy!


Would you consider superheroes?

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2013-03-19 03:05:31 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.


Considering where the robbery occurred, I'd like to put forth my theory that if the money were not stolen it would've been spent on a combination of hookers, drugs, and trips to Michigan's Adventure.

Also, nothing in the article about whether the $1200 dollars was ever actually given to the store owner.  Is it possible the $1000 was just put in the evidence locker, even though they weren't planning to investigate?  I'm sure the guy could find something to use the $500 on.  That $250 could at least buy the guy groceries for a month or so.  On second thought, the $100 the thief send would really probably only cover a nice dinner date for the man and his wife, so it's no big deal.
 
2013-03-19 03:26:56 AM

worlddan: Hector Remarkable: The $1,200, while it includes some interest, falls short of making up for the loss in the dollar's purchasing power over the intervening years. The stolen $800 would be worth about $1,800 today, based on changes in the consumer price index.

'Cause, yeah, you have to buy back your virtue at the going rate. That's the way the cosmic karma works alright - consumer price index.

That is one of the funniest comments I have read on Fark in ages.

/I bow to you sir.


Here, have this dry martini:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-19 03:32:04 AM
For fark's sake, the guy is trying to do the right thing. I don't care if it was only a dollar he paid back or anything for that matter, the pure acknowledgement and true regret on his part that he had done wrong is good enough.
 
2013-03-19 03:36:51 AM
Undersheriff Bob Baker said the letter and cash came as quite a surprise.
"This doesn't happen every day," Baker said. He said the department isn't interested in reopening the case because of the time that has passed.


Sounds like the Sherriff's department just made a quick $600 dollars. I'm sure the $300 dollars will be held in an evidence locker awaiting the store owner to reclaim his $100.
 
2013-03-19 03:39:35 AM

dypchit: For fark's sake, the guy is trying to do the right thing. I don't care if it was only a dollar he paid back or anything for that matter, the pure acknowledgement and true regret on his part that he had done wrong is good enough.


This.

Common sense? On MY Fark? It's more likely than you think.
 
2013-03-19 03:41:31 AM
Alcohol may have been involved in the form of AA. Sounds awfully 9thsteppy to me.
 
2013-03-19 04:00:43 AM

Kevin72: Alcohol may have been involved in the form of AA. Sounds awfully 9thsteppy to me.


That sounds like a good name for an alcoholic clown - 9thSteppy. 9thSteppy the Clown, wants to make up for destroying your childhood psyche. Honk, honk.
 
2013-03-19 04:38:27 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-19 04:45:38 AM
Burning at the stake for the thief is the only solution.
 
2013-03-19 04:53:52 AM
6 year SoL for most crimes in MI, and I think 6 years is the max SoL for most civil actions.
 
2013-03-19 04:56:54 AM
On other news, inflation is f*cking your dog.
 
2013-03-19 06:05:22 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: StoPPeRmobile: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.

Maybe the struggle inspired him to succeed when he though all was lost and became a great success.

If you're saying that we don't know how that 800 dollars would have changed the life of the business owner, you're right.

So let's call it even and cut the thief's hand off.


Lotta Muslims around here lately. Why don't you go back to Saudi Arabia and chop yer mom's clit off, Achmed?
 
2013-03-19 06:07:38 AM

potterydove: 6 year SoL for most crimes in MI, and I think 6 years is the max SoL for most civil actions.


Apparently, some peoples' conscience don't have a SoL.
 
2013-03-19 06:54:02 AM
If the letter was unsigned and the thief's identity is still unknown, who the heck is the poor schlub in the huge photo on that page?

"this is what we think a thief with poor spelling and a guilty conscious looks like?"

/looks like unfortunate css possibly, chrome
 
2013-03-19 06:54:56 AM
conscience

I even told myself "con-science" and still failed.
 
2013-03-19 07:24:42 AM
With a picture of what a regretful thief might look like?
 
2013-03-19 07:27:17 AM
i.imgur.com

So who is the black guy on the top of the story?  It says the thief was anonymous. So what did they do, go to stock photos and look for what he probably looked like and posted that?
 
2013-03-19 08:07:32 AM

weave: [i.imgur.com image 495x317]

So who is the black guy on the top of the story?  It says the thief was anonymous. So what did they do, go to stock photos and look for what he probably looked like and posted that?


oh man... that should be captioned "With what an anonymous thief might look like"... that would have blown this thread up...
 
2013-03-19 08:13:28 AM
Thief: "Here is $800 that I stole back in the 1980s. Sorry  sorrie"
 
2013-03-19 08:26:04 AM

mciann: With a picture of what a regretful thief might look like?


jumping jesus christ!  didn't even click in my noggin.

In Michigan only people of color take things that aren't theirs I guess.

Hoo-Boy
 
2013-03-19 08:43:48 AM

Hector Remarkable: The $1,200, while it includes some interest, falls short of making up for the loss in the dollar's purchasing power over the intervening years. The stolen $800 would be worth about $1,800 today, based on changes in the consumer price index.

'Cause, yeah, you have to buy back your virtue at the going rate. That's the way the cosmic karma works alright - consumer price index.


I am wondering if karma came around on this guy and his son was starting to fall into the same path as he had led.  He tried impressing upon his son to not make the same mistakes and during the speech the kid said "Yeah, but you did it and got away with it".  So the guy payed back the money as an example to the his kid.  As for CPI, CPI doesn't translates to everyone the same way.  $1,200 may be just as hard for him to get now as it was in the '80's.  For someone that got away with it, this is a good gesture.

/We'll save the hand chopping for the thefts of large sums
//especially those of white collar crimes
 
2013-03-19 10:00:16 AM
Was his name Earl?
 
2013-03-19 10:12:57 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: StoPPeRmobile: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: AverageAmericanGuy: Invested in a conservative S&P index fund since June 1983 until today would have garnered the business owner $6,657.

So paying back $1,200 may make the thief feel good, but he's still a far cry from making things right.

False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.

Justice is blind.

If he has his hand chopped off, it is enough.

$800 could have been the difference between business success and failure for that small business owner. The damage incurred is compounded by time.

Maybe the struggle inspired him to succeed when he though all was lost and became a great success.

If you're saying that we don't know how that 800 dollars would have changed the life of the business owner, you're right.

So let's call it even and cut the thief's hand off.




Fair enough.
 
2013-03-19 12:22:49 PM
Wouldn't the store owner have insurance and been repaid the $800 already?
 
2013-03-19 01:06:25 PM
 
2013-03-19 02:03:09 PM
 Ok he made a mistake 30yrs ago. Apparently he has been very remorseful and guilt stricken ever since. Seems to me this man's conscience has done more to him than any jail could have. It is more than obvious that he is poorly educated and that may have contributed to his criminal behavior. I am not saying he was right or that he had the right because he was poor and uneducated. I am saying he tried to make amends and that is what restitution and rehabilitation are supposed to be about?
 
2013-03-19 02:50:05 PM

vingamm: Ok he made a mistake 30yrs ago. Apparently he has been very remorseful and guilt stricken ever since. Seems to me this man's conscience has done more to him than any jail could have. It is more than obvious that he is poorly educated and that may have contributed to his criminal behavior. I am not saying he was right or that he had the right because he was poor and uneducated. I am saying he tried to make amends and that is what restitution and rehabilitation are supposed to be about?


Right, only people that are busted for pot should go to rape-prison.
 
2013-03-19 04:21:28 PM

doglover: False. He stole $800. If he returned $800, it is enough.


If he's not adjusting for inflation, he's still returning less than he stole. According to the article, he paid some interest, but not enough to account for the entire value of the sum that was stolen.
 
2013-03-19 06:17:44 PM

Biological Ali: If he's not adjusting for inflation


He can barely spell his name. Are you sh*tting me here?
 
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